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Is this the best sci-fi book ever written?

>> No.15182323

>>15181985
Yes

>> No.15182344

>>15181985
Reading it right now.

No, but it's a fun romp

>> No.15182348

>>15181985
No, but certainly on my top 5

>> No.15182382

>>15181985
The Forever War is the best sci-fi book ever written mate.

>> No.15182387

No, it's Revelations

>> No.15182409

>>15181985
That would be Hyperion

>> No.15182445

Childhood's End is better

>> No.15182538

>>15181985
Not even close. Try literally anything by PKD. Or R.A. Lafferty. Or Zelazny. Even Asimov’s stuff is better.
>>15182409
One of the most overrated piece of shit series ever.

>> No.15182561

>>15182538
>>>15181985 (OP)
>Not even close. Try literally anything by PKD. Or R.A. Lafferty. Or Zelazny. Even Asimov’s stuff is better.
I still feel like Dune tops a lot these in certain ways, not OP anyhow, just curious if you have some Lafferty recommendations, I've only read Space Chantey and want to read more, don't care if they are like Space Chantey at all..
>>>15182409
>One of the most overrated piece of shit series ever.
This I agree with.
>>15182445
Great book.

>> No.15182609

>>15182561
Maybe it’s more “propulsive entertainment” but from a literary perspective Dune can’t touch anything by Dick

The best Lafferty for my money is The Devil is Dead though it’s not sci fi

>> No.15182628

>>15181985
Im with you OP
Although the sequals kinda sucked.

>> No.15182672

>>15182609
PHD was an awful writer.

>> No.15182673

Far from it

>> No.15182685

>>15181985
The Book of the New Sun is better.

>> No.15182695

>>15182672
Many would disagree, he’s actually pretty great. A lot better than Herbert for sure.

>> No.15182703

>>15182695
Herbert was bad, but PHD was worse. But are quite brilliant storytellers, of course. PHD was something of a philosophical visionary as well.

>> No.15182708

>>15182703
No dude, PKD wasn’t bad. Explain to me why’s bad and how exactly Herbert is better.

>> No.15182731

>>15182708
Do you have a tin ear or something?

>> No.15182746

>>15182731
Fuck does that even mean? So far you’ve explained nothing on how pkd’s bad still waiting

>> No.15182758

>>15182746
PKD's prose is universally regarded as quite bad. Is this really the first you're hearing of it?

>> No.15182798

>>15182758
Oh his PROSE. Sure maybe he wasn’t as poetic as others but his ideas and concepts make his stuff more readable than capeshit like Dune.

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>>15181985
Yes, the greatest sci-fi book ever written is about a group of religious ascetics in the desert taking place over several thousand years and examines how humanity constantly pushes itself into a new dark age, how could you tell?

>> No.15182815

>>15182798
Have you even been reading my posts? I acknowledged PKD as a great storyteller and philosophical visionary. He is just an awful writer.

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>>15182810

>> No.15182895

>>15181985
I should read it. I bought a Blu-ray of it and it remains in the shrink wrap

>> No.15182973

>>15182815
Be patient with me please i mostly read comix

>> No.15182996

>>15181985
yes

>> No.15183027

>>15181985
We have a general for this you newfag. Fuck off to that thread with this.

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>>15181985
I always considered it fantasy.

>> No.15183154

>>15181985
Here are some great SF novels that are not already recommended to death:

Yevgeny Zamyatin - We (1921)
Olaf Stapledon - Last and First Men (1930)
Olaf Stapledon - Star Maker (1937)
George R. Stewart - Earth Abides (1949)
John Wyndham - The Day of the Triffids (1951)
Clifford D. Simak - City (1952)
Theodore Sturgeon - More Than Human (1953)
Frederik Pohl - The Space Merchants (1953)
Edgar Pangborn - A Mirror for Observers (1954)
Hal Clement - Mission of Gravity (1954)
Walter M. Miller - A Canticle for Leibowitz (1959)
J.G. Ballard - The Drowned World (1962)
Clifford D. Simak - Way Station (1963)
Arkady Strugatsky - Hard to Be a God (1964)
John Brunner - Stand on Zanzibar (1968)
Keith Roberts - Pavane (1968)
Alexei Panshin - Rite of Passage (1968)
Stanislaw Lem - His Master's Voice (1968)
Stanislaw Lem - The Futurological Congress (1971)
Arkady Strugatsky - Roadside Picnic (1972)
Robert Silverberg - Dying Inside (1972)
Ursula K. Le Guin - The Dispossessed (1974)
Christopher Priest - Inverted World (1974)
Samuel R. Delany - Dhalgren (1975)
Cordwainer Smith - Norstrilia (1975)
Octavia Butler - Kindred (1979)
Brian W. Aldiss - Helliconia Trilogy (1982)
Gene Wolfe - The Book of the New Sun (1983)
Greg Egan - Permutation City (1994)
Greg Egan - Diaspora (1997)
Alastair Reynolds - Revelation Space (2000)
M. John Harrison - Light (2002)
Neal Stephenson - Anathem (2008)
China Mieville - Embassytown (2011)

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>>15181985
I agree with this
>Critics dismissed Hugo award winner Dune as 'mere fantasy'. Well, I'm with the 12 million readers who fell under Frank Herbert's spell

I think this is the cover the one I read had it has only orange no blue for some reason I think those two colors are often associated together especially in promotional material.

>> No.15183265

>>15182409
trash

>> No.15183273

>>15181985
No. But I'm glad you're enjoying it.

>> No.15183828

.

>> No.15184048

i've barely read any sci-fi ever but this book intrigues me. are all five (?) parts essential or am i good with just the first one

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>>15184048

>> No.15184116

>>15184085
damn, thanks!!

>> No.15184125

>>15184116
No problem, my friend. I've barely read sci-fi too and it helped me.

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>>15181985
>CTRL-F "Shadow"

absolutely discusting

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>>15181985
No

>> No.15184240

>>15184186
as overrated as pynchon around these here parts

>> No.15184288

What are /lit/'s thoughts on The Left Hand of Darkness?

>> No.15184824
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>>15183154
>China Mieville

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>>15182382
Factually correct

>> No.15184843

>>15182810
canticle is better then dune.

>> No.15184847

>>15184288
A classic.

>> No.15184857

>>15184824
He's hit or miss, but Embassytown is good.

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nah it's this

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>>15184857

>> No.15185840
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15185840

What part of Dune do you like? I've been recommended it since I was a teenager and now that I finally read it. I didn't fancy it at all.

My issues with it was:
>everything was spoiled with each chapter explaining the story. It tells you who the traitor is, that Paul is gonna win and make himself a ruler, that Jessica lives and that Duncan Idaho is gonna live.
>so much internal monologuing that sometimes goes absolutely nowhere.
>maybe this is me but the back blurb of the book explained way too much, like Duke Leto dying and Paul starting a rebellion
>sometimes things happen too fast like when the Atreides moved to Arrakis and later him meeting the emperor. It feels like they just teleport between important scenes somewhat. A shuttle scene where Paul can see Arrakis would've been great. Instead we get a scene on Caladar(?) and the next on Arrakis in the palace living room.
>too few outside scenes
>no character was actually ever scared despite the novel being famous for it's mantra about facing your fears

I liked the snakes, and I appreciated the world building. This book just isn't for me and I totally don't get the appeal. I was prepared to love it which perhaps made me sour on it even more.

>> No.15185880

>>15181985
>ctrl+F
>"UBIK"
>Phrase not found.

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