/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15318770]

Has there ever been any compelling philosophical reason not to kill yourself?

[Anonymous No.15318805]

If many-worlds interpretation is true, than you have already killed yourself an infinite amount of times.

[Anonymous No.15318809]

>>15318770
Has there ever been any compelling philosophical reason to kill yourself?

/thread

[Anonymous No.15318810]

>>15318805
>many-worlds interpretation

[Anonymous No.15318814]

>>15318805
if MWI is true there are infinite better theories than that garbage lmao

[Anonymous No.15318822]

>>15318770
Deleting yourself doesnt stop meth heads from having 5+ babies in a trailer.

[Anonymous No.15318824]

>>15318805
Wow, its been a while since ive seen such an insipid reddit comment.

>>15318770
There are philosophies that say killing yourself is just as arbitrary as keep living that are pretty on point.

[Anonymous No.15318828]

something good can happen. maybe it's like a gambling addiction. you lose most of the time but there are some happy moments.

[Anonymous No.15318830]

>>15318770
considering you will die, suicide only buys you time
the question then becomes, how much more valuable is dead time compared to living time, that you need to cut your life short?

[Anonymous No.15318918]

>>15318830
Wouldn't you say that dead time is more valuable than shitty living time? The argument lie more in cutting short losses.

[Anonymous No.15318921]

>>15318805
Yet somehow, I'm all those many world's, you're still a faggot.

[Anonymous No.15318956]

if you have people who care about you then it's unethical to put that burden on them
if death is oblivion then time will not exist for you and you might be reconsituted again in an instant, somewhere amidst the seas of infinity
if it's not oblivion then it's unlikely that such a generally unethical and selfish act would be rewarded

eternal oblivion is terrifying and is only one of the possibilities; by killing yourself you're betting everything on that possibility, and it makes it so that you might as well have never existed at all, which means that you're already dead anyway if it's true

[Anonymous No.15318974]

>>15318956
>if you have people who care about you then it's unethical to put that burden on them

I never understood this argument. This is assuming you're being selfish by killing yourself and leaving your loved ones still alive. So would it be more ethical to murder your loved ones before killing yourself? This is related to asking christcucks if heaven is so great why is murdering believers wrong?

[Anonymous No.15319005]

>>15318770
Obviously Camus, which I suppose OP is alluding to with his pic.
Most major religions have some kind of injunction against suicide. More theological than philosophical.
Again, not really philosophical, but you don't know what experiences you're denying yourself by killing yourself. It could be that if you wait ten yeas, you'll experience unparalleled bliss and fulfilment. You literally can't know otherwise.
For us, the pace of tech development marginally increases the chance that this is actually true. Maybe in twenty years medical advances will change whatever part of your brain makes you unhappy or anhedonic, and tech advances make attaining heavenly bliss possible. Killing yourself precludes all possibility of experiencing these things.

[Anonymous No.15319022]

>>15318918
Except you can't know for sure the nature of time you haven't experienced yet, or your emotional relationship with it.
Suicide is backwards-facing, basically projecting past suffering into an unknown future and cutting yourself off from it.
But that's all conjecture. Nobody knows what the future holds.

[Anonymous No.15319026]

for all you know, this is the only time you're going to get to exist, so why the fuck would you kill yourself

[Anonymous No.15319032]

>>15318974
What's there not to understand? You would be causing them pain. If you murdered them then you would be causing pain to the other people who cared about them, unless you murder every single one of them and everyone that cares about each one at the same time, and good luck pulling that off.

[Anonymous No.15319046]

>>15319032

[Anonymous No.15319049]

>>15318770
mom would be sad

[Anonymous No.15319052]

>>15319032
So killing yourself is wrong but blowing up your family reunion isn't?

[Anonymous No.15319056]

>>15319032
Don't even bother responding to that guy, he apparently can't understand that killing people might be disagreeable for them
>somehow he's sensitive to the fact that they might suffer if a loved one dies, though
>doesn't consider the cascade effect of his own argument
that person has like thirty IQ, I'm not even giving them a you

[Anonymous No.15319092]

>>15319052
Is your family isolated from the rest of society and their other relatives and friends?

[Anonymous No.15319101]

>>15319092
So what it's a matter of degree then? See >>15319046 is genocide moral while suicide is not? That's obviously ridiculious

[Anonymous No.15319115]

>>15319022
You're right we can't know for what will happen in the future, but we could obviously look at trends and figure that a specific result is likely.

[Anonymous No.15319119]

>>15318770
Tao Lin makes a really good case for Terrence Mckenna's Philosophy that is very optimistic in his book Trip, but I haven't read anything of McKenna Yet

[Anonymous No.15319129]

>>15318770
my mum and dad would be sad

[Anonymous No.15319152]

>>15318770

There Is One main real reason to not kill yourself, and It Is God. If you love God, you Will never want to kill yourself because It Is against his will. The Joy from the love of God will permeate your heart.

Notice that I'm not talking about Christianity but God in general. I suggest you to read "Autobiography of a Yogi".

[Anonymous No.15319155]

>>15319049
"I will make you happy mom" - Sysiphus

[Anonymous No.15319162]

There's no real reason to either, I mean everything that we know still isn't proven, so how do you know for sure what the ultimate consequences of your life and death will be? There will be at least future lives, help them out instead of just cutting your thread short, especially since you can die unintentionally at ANY time.

[Anonymous No.15319163]

>>15319115
I don't really think anyone has a methodology to do that, and it seems pretty arrogant to imagine that anyone could.
Could anybody in the mid nineties have predicted what the post-internet world would look like?
Could anyone have predicted the way smartphones and social media changed all our lives?
Shit, videogames give meaning and entertainment to millions of people, billions of hours every year. Nobody in the seventies could have even conceived of such a thing.
Someone in the seventies might have looked at the past two decades to predict what the eighties and nineties would be like... and they'd be TOTALLY wrong.
It's bonkers to imagine that you could do better.

[Anonymous No.15319165]

>>15319152
Religions with a good afterlife and no injunction against suicide don't last long.

[Anonymous No.15319168]

>>15318956
>oblivion
Oblivion in what sense? Eternal suffering or the state of not existing? This is something I don't understand, how can people be afraid of nonexistance? Do you remember the time before you were born? Or when someone performed a surgery on you and you were heavily sedated? It's not terrifying, its almost liberating.

[Anonymous No.15319172]

>>15318770
はい

[Anonymous No.15319181]

>>15319155
fuck man

[Anonymous No.15319193]

>>15319155
where were you when apu solved philosophy

[Anonymous No.15319199]

>>15319155
MFW a crude drawing of a frog on a Vietnamese interpretative dance forum solves the greatest question in human philosophy

[Anonymous No.15319202]

>>15319199
You guys are young. My mom is dead

[Anonymous No.15319209]

>>15319168
It's not about the nonexistence, it's about the existence and suffering that I feel right now being completely meaningless and lost to an infinity of forgetfulness. While I'm alive I'm free to feel the horror of that all I want, it's one of the joys of being alive after all

[Anonymous No.15319253]

>>15318770
“What’s the fucking point?”-cioran

[Anonymous No.15319384]

>>15319253
Shoran is pretty underrated on /lit/

[Anonymous No.15319393]

If you still have someone who cares about you, then you should live.

If you still have a good health and not of old age, then you should live.

You will die eventually anyway so you might as well stick around and see if anything good might happen.

[Anonymous No.15319408]

>>15318770
>If you want a safe compass to guide you through life, and to banish all doubt as to the right way of looking at it, you cannot do better than accustom yourself to regard this world as a penitentiary, a sort of a penal colony, or [Greek: ergastaerion] as the earliest philosopher called it.[7] Amongst the Christian Fathers, Origen, with praiseworthy courage, took this view,[8] which is further justified by certain objective theories of life. I refer, not to my own philosophy alone, but to the wisdom of all ages, as expressed in Brahmanism and Buddhism, and in the sayings of Greek philosophers like Empedocles and Pythagoras; as also by Cicero, in his remark that the wise men of old used to teach that we come into this world to pay the penalty of crime committed in another state of existence--a doctrine which formed part of the initiation into the mysteries.[9] And Vanini--whom his contemporaries burned, finding that an easier task than to confute him--puts the same thing in a very forcible way. Man, he says, is so full of every kind of misery that, were it not repugnant to the Christian religion, I should venture to affirm that if evil spirits exist at all, they have posed into human form and are now atoning for their crimes.[10] And true Christianity--using the word in its right sense--also regards our existence as the consequence of sin and error.

[Anonymous No.15319423]

>>15319408
>If you accustom yourself to this view of life you will regulate your expectations accordingly, and cease to look upon all its disagreeable incidents, great and small, its sufferings, its worries, its misery, as anything unusual or irregular; nay, you will find that everything is as it should be, in a world where each of us pays the penalty of existence in his own peculiar way. Amongst the evils of a penal colony is the society of those who form it; and if the reader is worthy of better company, he will need no words from me to remind him of what he has to put up with at present. If he has a soul above the common, or if he is a man of genius, he will occasionally feel like some noble prisoner of state, condemned to work in the galleys with common criminals; and he will follow his example and try to isolate himself.

[Anonymous No.15319457]

>>15319163
If you applied that same logic though, it'd be wrong for a prisoner in a camp to escape. Attaching your will to live on the hopes that tommorow may not suck, or that something new and fun will be invented, is absurd.

[Anonymous No.15319514]

>>15319457
I don't understand your analogy at all. Can you explain it? It seems like the opposite of suicide - the escapee is taking steps to ensure that the future holds pleasure. The prison-breaker is totally in agreement with me, in that he must have a belief that there is a possibility of pleasure and meaning in a future. Otherwise, he'd stay in prison, or indeed kill himself.
And why is it absurd to admit that you don't know what the future holds, and that it may hold pleasure and meaning for you? That just seems objectively true. Look at suicide attempt survivors - almost all of them regret what they did. I've given lots of examples, and your refutation is "it's absurd". Pretty lazy.
I think you're a bit too lost in nihilism. In any case, why reject the absurd? Coming to terms with it strikes me as an important component to living life.

[Anonymous No.15319583]

>>15318770
I've found the best answer is acknowledging the others and their suffering. Though I still prefer to be alone, I just found it a moving argument.

[Anonymous No.15319645]

>>15319583
For me it's also a matter of perspective.
Millions of people before us have lived all the possible combination of lives we can possibly lead, and they managed
For better or worse they did it bros

[Anonymous No.15319711]

it probably sucks (going through with the act, surely you have something better to do..)

it causes pain and grief to your loved ones

your death is assured either way, no need to really hurry it along, there's no need to make this grand "fuck you" against life when you die regardless

other than that not really. life is basically the presence of embodied suffering. murdering the body brings an end to the suffering. although it destroys what could benefit from the act (there is no post death you that feels the relief or absence of suffering), the act brings an end to the pain regardless.

the problem of course is it's too late really. best of all was never to have been born, to never be put in this horrific existential situatino where one must even ponder these choices and actions in the first place.

some things in life feel good (eg, drugs. do that instead of sui)

[Anonymous No.15319822]

You'll just be reborn into the same life until you do the fucking why that you have this life for, which is never suicide.

[Anonymous No.15319902]

>>15318770
Hedonism. Pleasure is more good than pain is bad.

[Anonymous No.15319936]

>>15318770
you will go to hell

[Anonymous No.15320131]

>>15319936
What if you kill yourself again in hell?

[Anonymous No.15320206]

>>15319902
consider the respective pain and pleasure of two animals, one of which is being eaten by the other

[Anonymous No.15320251]

>>15319902
>Pleasure is more good than pain is bad
Just blatantly untrue

[Anonymous No.15320279]

>>15320206
the prey lived years enjoying existence and only few moments of agonizing death

[Anonymous No.15320549]

>>15320206
Humans aren't prey animals anon.

[Anonymous No.15320604]

>>15320549
Humans are the prey of other humans

[Anonymous No.15320610]

>>15318770
Who is antithesis of schopenhauers pessimism philosophy?

[Anonymous No.15320638]

>>15320604
Perhaps real humanity was the friends we ate along the way

[Anonymous No.15320740]

>>15318770
The time of one's death is predetermined, thus killing yourself will only make a sad note where there need not be.

[Anonymous No.15320747]

>>15320740
But if it's predetermined then he was always going to kill himself then and there.

[Anonymous No.15320764]

>>15320747
It's only the time that is predetermined, there's a thousand of ways you can die at any precise moment. Your actions are your own.

[Anonymous No.15320786]

>>15320638
We should have a planet with megafauna and competing hominids, the we wouldn't parasite each other

[Anonymous No.15320798]

>>15319253
clear fear of death cope

[Anonymous No.15320807]

>>15320786
Problem is giant megafauna probably made us cooperate too well see how quickly humans wiped out the North American megafauna after crossing over

[Anonymous No.15320852]

Most people's lives are not Sisyphean in nature. Most people can enjoy leisure and do not see work as suffering.

[Anonymous No.15320902]

>>15318956
There is harm caused to your loved ones but it is your own life you are ending, it's their ethical responsibility to respect your choice, if you truly find the suffering in life to be unbearable.

>>15319209
God how much of a cuck to life do you have to be to find that preferable to non-existence.

[Anonymous No.15320920]

>>15318770
You're going to die anyway.
This life is a flash in the pan -- you won't experience anything ever again -- might as well live for now.

[Anonymous No.15320921]

You do not know that upon death, you will not awaken to a new reality as if from a dream. In order to set yourself up for success, you would be wise to cultivate competence in case your new environment harbors dangers, and virtue so you may be accepted into good company.

Don't kill yourself before you reach the height of your potential.

[Anonymous No.15321913]

>>15319408
>>15319423
Based Schoppiebro

[Anonymous No.15322058]

>>15318770
something like "pain is inevitable. suffering is optional."

shit will happen. there are too many forces bouncing off of each other to not have something go wrong and cause you pain. But suffering is partly based on expectations.

You are unhappy because:
1) you know what happiness is. without a counterpoint, you can't understand your current situation
2) you believe that happiness is possible. You are less likely to desire something that you know won't happen. LIke, whoever despaired not being able to fly like a bird? very few
3) your actions to get what you want, and you know what you can have are thwarted. If you are sitting in a chair and a bird dies. you might feel empathy, but not feel personally affected. But if you are taking care of that bird, and it dies, you will feel misery.

All of these things are under your control. You set the expectations for what happiness means. you set expectations for what is possible to accomplish. and you decide how hard you want to struggle against your current situation.

If your requirements for happiness are "a billion dollars and a supermodel girlfriend", then you will be miserable. if it is "a rewarding career with growth potential and an attractive woman who loves me" then you have a chance at satisfying that need.

If you fill your awareness with people who have billions of dollars who constantly tell you that you only need to do this one simple trick to get rich, then you will be miserable when you fail. If you study people who worked hard, were grateful, who pursued their talents, and had achievable goals, then you can follow that example and be satisfied with your progress.

If your strategy for making a billion dollars is "invest in Bitcoin" then you will be miserable. If your strategy for growing wealth is "learn a trade, make business contacts, and hone your discipline" then you will find success and be happy, even if you never become a billionaire

[Anonymous No.15322140]

>>15318770
It's fucking absurd

[Anonymous No.15322210]

i suppose because its permanent. might as well stick it out n see how good/bad/weird things get. also a lot of people love you etc. all the usual boring reasons desu

[Anonymous No.15322361]

why hurry the inevitable?

[Anonymous No.15322484]

>>15319129
nice answer anon :)

[Anonymous No.15322501]

>>15318770
because if life is a trial or punishment you will be fucked after you die

[Anonymous No.15322513]

>>15320764
But now what you're essentially saying is that if someone kills themselves then they were predetermined to die there anyway due to natural causes, not themselves... what is it you're exactly saying here?

[Anonymous No.15322703]

>>15318770
Beauty

[Anonymous No.15322917]

>>15322703
lol

[Anonymous No.15322927]

>>15318956
anyone have anything to say about the actual substance of this post?

[Anonymous No.15322948]

No there hasn't been. You should ensure your death will not make the lives of others worse though.

[Anonymous No.15322952]

>>15322703
lol

[Anonymous No.15323009]

>>15319408
>>15319423
literally can't get any more fucking BASED than this

[Anonymous No.15323072]

>>15319032
its unethical that they put a burden on me to keep living to make them happy

[Anonymous No.15323112]

>>15323072
they didn't, nature did, the system in which we live does
they might be partially at fault initially, but what's done is done and now it's just the circumstance in which you both find yourselves in, with which you have to make do the best that you can

[Anonymous No.15323629]

[Anonymous No.15323648]

>>15318770
you wouldnt get to see what happens in the next election or if the mets win the world series or have sex again

[Anonymous No.15324203]

>>15319902
Unless you are in chronic pain, weakness and misery. No kind of hedonism is possible while suffering from dysphoria and anhedonia.

[Anonymous No.15324216]

>>15319052
Not OP, but yes. It would be more ethical to save them from the hell of losing a child, you don't know in the slightest how that feels. I always told myself that if I get cancer or any terminal disease before my parents, I'll literally kill them unknowingly to save them the pain of losing a child. People who say this is wrong are ignorant to that kind of pain, they would be basically living in hell if they saw their child die before them.

[Anonymous No.15324244]

>>15319902
Say it to my face

[Anonymous No.15324312]

>>15318814
Hahaha

[Anonymous No.15324318]

>>15318805
Nice sci fi bro but how does that answer OP's question at all?

[Anonymous No.15324335]

>>15318770
It is better to inflict pain on others. When I think about stuff like that, I change the subject to how I could torture and kill others. I want a home with a nice basmement where I could lock that wetback fatass and slant eyed crtetin up and torture them like Buffalo Bill.

[Anonymous No.15324340]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRqXBsgnYok

[Anonymous No.15324372]

>>15324335
The based department bro.. it's calling..

[Anonymous No.15324569]

>>15323112
Nature and systematic circumstances have also resulted in Anon(s) being in a state where suicide is preferable to living, and it could be argued that it is the just response to their families' unintentional sins of siring and knowing the Anon(s) to kill oneself

[Anonymous No.15325035]

>>15319032
>dude just kill your whole genealogical tree before killing yourself

[Anonymous No.15325044]

>>15318770
Yes. There is room for improvement until your dying day. As long as there is a way forward towards virtue and wisdom, there is no reason for suicide

At least thats the way I see it, dont know if its right

[Anonymous No.15325059]

>>15324244
nigga did shrooms and think hes god. Now hes suicidal, how did that enlightenment work out?

Should've stuck with infinite pussy honestly

[Anonymous No.15325080]

>>15318770
Yes, many.
One would be Kant's universal maxim, that you shouldn't commit an action unless you are certain you could will into existence a world where everyone thought killing themselves was acceptable all the time.
Moreover, Kant would argue that human beings should only ever be treated as ends in themselves, and that killing yourself is using yourself as a means to end your own suffering. As you are just as much a human being as everyone around you, you must treat yourself only as you would treat your fellow man- as ends in themselves, never a means. if you would not kill your fellow man to relieve your own suffering, then you should not kill yourself because it's the same thing.

[Anonymous No.15325182]

>>15324569
>let's just pretend we're not conscious and able to make decisions because circumstance exists
even if you for some reason have faith in hard determinism, you still can't deny the "illusion" of choice existing, so that's meaningless to the discussion

[Anonymous No.15325243]

>>15318974
>if they go to heaven why is killing them wrong
Because the act reflects poorly on you. Otherwise, if there's some other way for them to die (e.g. natural causes), then they're fine. Just don't try to kill them and pretend they died of natural causes, as the omniscient God will know of your weaseling

[Anonymous No.15325284]

Begging failed human designs not to self-terminate and arguing with people who've emotionally entrenched themselves in nihilism is futile and quickly becomes tiresome. If you need a "compelling philosophical reason" not to kill yourself, then please kill yourself. I'm bored with you.

[Anonymous No.15325307]

>>15325243
>Because the act reflects poorly on you
That guy is an idiot from reddit but this is just a tautology. Why does it reflect poorly on you?

[Anonymous No.15325466]

>>15325284
Look at you. So self-assured that you have to proclaim it on an Indonesian fish-farming forum.

[Anonymous No.15325719]

>>15325059
Maybe he should but that's the problem with hedonism when you stop in your degenerate lifestyle you realize that you are empty

[Anonymous No.15325806]

>>15325080
But I would absolutely kill a fellow man to alleviate their suffering. Doctors do it all the time to braindead and suffering patients.

[Anonymous No.15325877]

>>15320131
"Where the worm doesn't die and the fire is not quenched"

[Anonymous No.15325915]

>>15318770
I like pushing rocks

[Anonymous No.15325927]

>>15318822
Yes it does. When I kill myself the world, as far as I know, ends.

[Anonymous No.15325948]

>>15325927
as far as you know, it doesn't
fucking retarded fuck

[Anonymous No.15326050]

>>15318770
I'm literally the most important thing in the world for myself
Why should I punish myself if its not my problem?

[Anonymous No.15326076]

Ninguna todo esta uno mismo si decide o no continuar atrapado en esta vida llena de nada!

[Anonymous No.15326078]

>>15318809
i agree but /threading urself is really cringe man

[Anonymous No.15326109]

>>15318822
So?

[Anonymous No.15326331]

>>15318770
Sure, but 'compelling' is relative here.

In reality, if you want to stop pushing the boulder, you're free to do so. I wouldn't recommend or condone it, but I won't pretend I don't empathise.

[Anonymous No.15326419]

>>15325182
>for some reason have faith in determinism
>for some reason
Lol
Anyway, so you’re saying it’s unethical to do something that benefits yourself at the expense of others? Why does their suffering your suffering?

[Anonymous No.15326501]

>>15325182
>>15326419
*why does their suffering outweigh your suffering?

[Anonymous No.15326510]

>>15326419
Suffering is suffering retard, it doesn't change into some different thing depending on who it happens to. Go ahead and show me the proof for hard deteminism, there's no proof either way and it probably can't really be proven either way. You're taking a position on something that's completely useless and meaningless to any discourse wholly on faith. Like I said, even if it's true and (You)'re predetermined, (You)'re still experiencing the illusion of choice, so you can't use determinism as an excuse for anything.

[Anonymous No.15326539]

>>15326501
They're presumably not the ones causing you the suffering (and even if they are, two wrongs don't make a right), the circumstance is. By killing yourself when you know you have prople who care about you, you knowingly cause suffering to them.

[Anonymous No.15326546]

>>15318770
You don’t understand. Struggle is an universal constant. Killing yourself will not solve the problem of this eternal struggle.

[OP No.15326571]

>>15326510
I don't get it. Only the individual experiences the illusion of choice but even the process of choosing is still predetermined, is it not?

[Anonymous No.15326572]

>>15325806
but would you kill someone else to relieve your own suffering? Remember, you are killing yourself to relieve your own suffering, not someone else's suffering, and your agency and rights to life, and to not be used as a means to an end is equal to that of everyone around you
Kant would argue it to be immoral to kill someone to relieve their own suffering anyway, as you are abusing their biological life and entire existence to accomplish an end to suffering. Humans are always an end, never a means

[Anonymous No.15326584]

there's no such thing as "afterlife", we will simply vanish, nothing is valuable

[Anonymous No.15326588]

>>15326584
We don’t vanish. Do you think you were created out of thin air?

[Anonymous No.15326597]

>>15326584
thats dogmatic
we know nothing

[Anonymous No.15326617]

>>15326571
When you try to say that you don't have a choice in killing yourself because it's predetermined, you're basically putting yourself above the deterministic process as if you can somehow look through it. It's absolutely retarded and contradictory. If determinism is true then realizing it still doesn't do anything to detract from the power of the illusion and your own experience. But nobody can show how it's true anyway, they just want to assume it because they're edgy retards.

[Anonymous No.15326651]

Cioran's view on suicide is alright. Only philosopher I can think of who was of sound mind when they killed themselves was mainländer.

(I know Nietzsche and Deleuze killed themselves but their [haven't read deleuze] philosophies don't really prescribe suicide)

But really any philosophy in favor of suicide is just as irrational as its counterpart.

[Anonymous No.15326670]

>>15318770
Not really a philosophical reason, more of a practical reality. Since you're not currently in the middle of the act of killing yourself, your life situation hasn't regressed to the point where you can't tolerate another moment. Even when life is really bad, it's not all bad. Since you're not currently killing yourself, you already have a compelling enough reason deep down. Try to work out what it is. You don't need our reasons. You're gonna die anyway, maybe it will be by your own hand, maybe it won't, but death is coming. Might as well see what happens until then.

[OP No.15326685]

>>15318770
Maybe Otto Weininger's "Sex and character" might help since he ended his life. Haven't read it myself, though.

[Anonymous No.15326698]

>>15318770
If your non-existence (death) is eternal and life temporary, and only in life that you can tell the difference between the two, then life is infinitely more desirable than death.

[Notes from the underground No.15326984]

>>15318770
killing one's self is such a bugman move
might as well just live man

[Anonymous No.15327502]

>>15326588
I was created out of my mom being a roastie WHORE

[Anonymous No.15327530]

>Picture your life as pushing a rock upwards
>complain about the weight of the rock

[Anonymous No.15327538]

>>15323072
It's unethical for you to multiply and transfer your burden to people who already carry theirs.

[Meow No.15327877]

You will never find out what the meaning of life is, if you end it.

[Anonymous No.15328133]

>>15327877
It's quite the opposite, you will only find it's true meaning after it ends
The question is why OP should want those answers sooner than needed

[Anonymous No.15328155]

>>15327538
What did he mean by this

[Meow No.15328182]

>>15328155
The people who love him, will suffer

[Meow No.15328198]

>>15328133
Will he? For all we know, nothing comes after life and I won't discuss what comes after it.
I will say however, that if one ends his life he will pass on the chance to find it in the realm of consciousness, in which we find ourselves in

[Anonymous No.15328258]

>>15328182
I was thinking multiply as in have children.

[Meow No.15328275]

>>15328258
Yeah no that's not what they were talking about

[Anonymous No.15328312]

>>15318805
i´m an intelligent person

[Meow No.15328316]

>>15328312
Gamerz rise up

[Anonymous No.15328330]

>tfw mum hates you
I'm not going to kill myself just to spite her.

[Anonymous No.15328343]

>>15328275
Yeah no I get it now fuckface. Stop namefagging.

[Anonymous No.15328365]

>>15326651
Nietzsche didn't kill himself, but at the end he probably would have if he only could.

> but their [haven't read deleuze] philosophies don't really prescribe suicide)
There actually is a section I think in Beyond Good and Evil where Nietzsche talks about how longevity is massively overrated and part of a life well lived is knowing when it's time to go.

[Meow No.15328469]

>>15328343
Wdyw I'm not samefagging (that's what it's actually called you newfag) and they weren't talking about having kids. So shut your excrement hole

[Anonymous No.15328533]

>>15322501
what if whoever is testing us will pass us if we kill ourselves?

[Anonymous No.15328632]

>>15328533
If he really wanted us to do that he would have told some bearded men from the desert to write about it

[Anonymous No.15328651]

>>15319408
>>15319423
Consolatio Philosophiae, by Schopie

[Anonymous No.15330141]

>>15328632
based and brimmed-hatted