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>hEdOnIsM dOeSn'T bRiNg LoNg-TerM HapPinNeSs
tell me a philosophy that does

>> No.15342308

>>15342300
sorry, what did u write? i cant read reddit

>> No.15342311
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15342311

>>15342300
Stoicism

>> No.15342315

>>15342300
Beans beans the magical fruit
The more you eat, the more you toot
The more you toot, the better you feel
So let's have beans most erry meal!

>> No.15342326

I do not think I will, actually, and the reason I won't is quite simple. I'll explain it to you. The reason I won't list any philosophies which may provide long term happiness is irrespective of what I say you will continue to be a fuckwit, very probably addicted to video games, pornography and memes, an inference I make by your choice of attached image and the way you structure your question. You're a vulgar triviality who lacks honest appreciation for even the simplest things, so to provide you with even a single philosophy which may provide long term happiness would be to cast pearls before swine, something I have been advised never to do. Do you have something vulgar and trivial to say in response maybe?

>> No.15342328

>>15342300

Hedonism doesn't even bring medium-term happiness. It's astounding how unenjoyable it is.

>> No.15342330

>>15342300
Rage against complacency is my life philosophy. I've been happy for the past 10 years just being like this

>> No.15342335

>>15342326
Look at this faggot lmao

>> No.15342338

Nichomachean Ethics refutes your premise pretty well if you’re capable of reading in non-reddit format.

>> No.15342342

>>15342338
Will the Nicomachean Ethics help me decide between Coke and Pepsi, McDonalds and Burger King, and Pizza Hut and Dominos? Also how to allocate my 401k?

>> No.15342346

>>15342300
follow and fulfill your unconcious desires. Stop being a little faggot trying to act """"pragmatic"""" with your STEMnigger degree and watching 10 minute philosophy-byte videos about stoicism and riding the tiger

>> No.15342354
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15342354

The Way of Jesus Christ.

You must lose your life to save it. You can't just live for pleasure.

>> No.15342366

>>15342326
You're a pretentious twat. Greek Epicureanism is exactly what he is asking for and extensively deals with this specific issue and is quire practical to live by.

>> No.15342376

>>15342300
Choke on a burger and die nigger. Philosophy isn't a buffet from which you can select anything to align with your monkey desires.

>> No.15342388
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15342388

>>15342354
Back off Christcuck. Don't lead OP astray

>> No.15342390
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15342390

>>15342376
says who?

>> No.15342391

>>15342300
It's not hard. Just manage your pleasures. People overindulge in things and then get burnt out and think that hedonism doesn't work.
No, that's not hedonism, that naive nonphilosophy. The real hedonist manages pleasures and rotates them so the stream of pleasure is constant. You have to actually use your intelligence to manage your level of pleasure.

>> No.15342409

>>15342326
take a shower anon, it helps

>> No.15342434

>>15342376
lmao it is
i dont adhere to a set ideology, i just pick everything i like and ditch everything i dislike from several sources, which in the end doesnt 100% align with any mainstream philosophy or sect.
imagine being cucked out of things and views you like because you want to fit a label.

>> No.15342435

Anything that isn't nihilism. Hedonism is nihilist cope

>> No.15342443
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15342443

>>15342326
>I do not think I will, actually, and the reason I won't is quite simple. I'll explain it to you. The reason I won't list any philosophies which may provide long term happiness is irrespective of what I say you will continue to be a fuckwit, very probably addicted to video games, pornography and memes, an inference I make by your choice of attached image and the way you structure your question. You're a vulgar triviality who lacks honest appreciation for even the simplest things, so to provide you with even a single philosophy which may provide long term happiness would be to cast pearls before swine, something I have been advised never to do. Do you have something vulgar and trivial to say in response maybe?

>> No.15342461

>>15342326
honest response to a dishonest OP

>>15342335
>>15342409
>>15342443
memespewing fucks

>> No.15342470

>>15342326
OP and incels ITT btfo'd

>> No.15342473

>>15342326
/thread

>> No.15342486

>>15342300
if muh good feels is the only thing that is “good” in life, then why are some experiences like working out, or snapping a bone back into place actions that while being negative experiences in themselves, result in positive results? the existence of painful experiences that have beneficial end results means that hedonism is bullshit

>> No.15342491

>>15342326
Excellent post

>> No.15342524

>>15342461
>>15342470
>>15342473
>>15342491

Stop samefagging. Could you be more obvious

>> No.15342552

>>15342366
>twat
go brush your teeth

>> No.15342553
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15342553

>>15342524
stupid gorilla black nigger

>> No.15342571
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>>15342553
Lamoing. What a fucking retard >>15342524 is. Go hang you're self, dumb fuck. Lmao

>> No.15342580

>>15342342
Depends on how big the cock is/was in your mouth while typing that.

>> No.15342586

>>15342553
Ahah made you waste time nigger ahah

>> No.15342603

>>15342326
Lol if you really had a reason you would have said it.

Also your obvious outlook upon both the poster and the world tells me you are not truly happy.

>> No.15342611

>>15342553
So you're using hedonism as a justification as to why hedonism is wrong? Interesting.

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15342614

This philospohy book is the best one for you OP.

and >>15342603 as well

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>>15342614

>> No.15342628

I know this entire thread is dishonest as shit but I wonder if people truly believe happiness is endgame of philosophy (or even hedonism itself) because I'd claim for neither thats the case

>> No.15342648

>>15342611
tf are you talking about, double nigger
I'm an anhedonic nihilist. I get no pleasure out of anything but I am happy because I long for no pleasure, that I couldn't feel anyways

>> No.15342671

>>15342628
Philosophy is the preparation of death

>> No.15342752

>>15342671
Edgy br0

>> No.15342763

>>15342752
Literally just fucking read philosophy. It’s not edgy, it’s a fucking stated conclusion in its most basic foundation.

>> No.15342793

>>15342376
It literally is what you say though lol.Philosophies/ideologies are a set of manuals on how to live your life for maximum fulfillment.

>> No.15342803

>>15342311
Wtf is this real?

>> No.15342816

>>15342763
Philosophy is much more than just "preparation for death"

>> No.15342830

>>15342816
There are other things under that umbrella, yeah. The deeper your understanding of philosophy the more you realize it doesn’t end with this life.

>> No.15342859

I've never quite gotten why hedonism means immediate gratification. If hedonism calls for maximizing pleasure, and immediate gratification does not provide the maximum amount of pleasure, then why do people think that's what hedonism equals? Try to think how you really achieve maximum pleasure and happiness in the long term.

>> No.15342878

>>15342326
>Vulgar
>trivial
>anti-porn
Ask me how I know you don't have friends.

>> No.15342881

Can anyone tell me why Epicureanism isn't the best answer?

>> No.15342889

>>15342859
Realistically it doesn't, you just have to constantly be running utility maximizations in your head. Constantly. Forever. The hedonic treadmill means that even if you could manage to live forever you'll constantly have to be cycling through systems as you get bored of them.

This is why Siddhartha Gautama gave up on Hedonism, btw.

>> No.15342911

>>15342881
Because philosophy won't and isn't designed to bring you happiness.
If you want to be happier see a counsellor or therapist, not a fucking 4chan board.

>> No.15342946

>>15342911
Wasn't the goal of most ancient greek philosophy Eudaimonia?
(Also, stop projecting, I only asked a question.)

>> No.15342970

>>15342326
Absolutely based. The triggered little soijack posting reddit-cancer have no decent response to that at all.

>> No.15342987

>>15342326
Based. This triggers redditor tourists to oblivion.

>> No.15343015

>>15342326
How can someone be this pretentious? Like seriously how do you live with yourself being this much of a faggot?

>> No.15343030

>>15342326
Based.
Anyone little bitch crying and replying with 'omg how are you like so pretentious sweetie this is like so problematic can't you just like be a decent human being' can fucking kill themselves

>> No.15343033

https://realization.org/p/ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita.html

>> No.15343034

>>15343015
>t.finesse'd by cheap prose mimicking a pseud so to troll the shit out of you and OP

>> No.15343035

>>15343030
He is a pretentious fag and you're an even bigger fag for thinking he isnt

>> No.15343038

>>15342326
Holy fuck rekt

>> No.15343048

>>15342946
>Projectinng
midwit

>> No.15343053

>>15343035
Who is he pretending to be? Can you give an example or are you going to keep using buzzwords thinking you make coherent arguments?

>> No.15343060

>>15343053
>Who is he pretending to be?
A faggot

>Can you give an example or are you going to keep using buzzwords thinking you make coherent arguments?

Faggots like you who don't see the obvious faggotry in replies like that don't deserve the privilege of being presented with an argument

>> No.15343088

>>15343060
The only reason you feel threatened by his post is because you can't write like that even as a joke to dunk on the memespewing retard known as OP

>> No.15343095

>>15343030
>sweetie
>problematic
Quit LARPing and go back.

>> No.15343100

>>15342300
Common sense

Every coomer is miserable

>> No.15343107
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15343107

>>15343088
And you're a retard who can't see obvious bait

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>>15342326
Absolutely based

>> No.15343113

>>15342326
>30 posters
>66 replies
>"I'm not samefagging"

>> No.15343123

>>15343107
>pepe posting
>no u
ok retard

>> No.15343129

>>15342461
>>15342470
>>15342473
>>15342491
>>15342970
>>15342987
>>15343030
>>15343038
>>15343109

All this samefagging effort, and for what?

>> No.15343132
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15343132

>>15342311
Yo
Based

>> No.15343133

>>15343113
I was responsible for 1/3 of these posts, as this is my thread, not that pretentious fuckstick

>> No.15343139
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>>15343129
dumbass

>> No.15343141

The antichristian propaganda is clearly inorganic, it is plain as day. I'm not even a christian.

>> No.15343149

>>15343133
>If I post the responses on my laptop they won't notice

>> No.15343161
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>>15343139
used phone and computer

OH NO NO NO

>> No.15343162

>>15343095
go back to what? your mums bed?
lol don't mind if I do

>> No.15343167

>>15343149
Huh?

>> No.15343197

>>15343161
>>15343149
(You)s works by IP address you retards.

>> No.15343218

>>15343197
>If I pretend I can't just log out of the wifi on my phone they REALLY won't notice.

>> No.15343225

>>15343218
kek

>> No.15343230

>>15343218
Dude, I've tried. All the phone networks are banned

>> No.15343232

>>15343162
Go back to high school apparently.

>> No.15343238

>>15343232
What your mum work there or something?

>> No.15344136

>>15342376
but thats exactly what it is, philosophy isn't one of the seven noble disciplines of the five heavens and it never will be
not identifying with the things you consume is the path to lasting happiness ;)

>> No.15344159

>>15342300
No philosophy actually bring's happiness, it has nothing to do with that

>> No.15344164

>>15343033
absolutely brutal and factual

>> No.15344172

>>15342346
Obsessed

>> No.15344186

>>15342308
Man, 4chan acts like it's not as cringey as reddit but then anons comment something like this and weve all got to wonder if there still holds any truth to it

>> No.15344191

>>15342300
Only children can be happy in this world, as soon as we lose innocence and purity all goes to shit

>> No.15344192

Buddhism.

>> No.15344229

>>15342300
Stoicism, Platonism, Aristotelianism, even Epicureanism (it does not really belong with what we call nowadays to be hedonism). And there are probably other philosophies that work.

>>15342628
>>15342911
In the Classical World, philosophy was seem as a guide to life. Modern philosophy is probably useless for it, but there is a lot to be gained by studying the Ancient Philosophers.

>> No.15344258

>>15342300
what the fuck does this image even mean? normalfaggots cant even make good wojaks, the most braindead "meme"

>> No.15344262

Long term happiness isnt real

>> No.15344267

>>15342391
>>15342859
By hedonism, people usually mean the belief that "physical pleasure leads to happiness".

That said, even managing your bodily pleasures well and living an ascetic life (like Epicurus did) is necessary but not sufficient for happiness. So much that Epicurus also had other parts of his philosophy along with asceticism.

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15344271

>>15344258
This

>> No.15344286

>>15344271
>emo duck
fuck me it has been too long

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>>15342326

>> No.15344296

>>15344271
the gigachad image is our only hope now

>> No.15344474

>>15342326
Brutal, how can OP recover

>> No.15344492

>>15342354
But Christians always seem to be neurotic messes

>> No.15344519

>>15342326
OP annihilated holy based

>> No.15344521

>>15342300
Nothing brings long-term happiness. If you want to keep your happiness you have to keep changing constantly just like the universe does. I'm saying it believing that happiness is being content with the reality.

>> No.15344535

>>15342586
You wasted your own time as well

>> No.15344709

>>15342326
Most people rejected his message. They hated anon because he told them the truth.

>> No.15344728

>>15342388
>seeking converts to edgy meme-Nietzscheanism
You must be over 18 to post on this website.

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15344919

I do not think I will, actually, and the reason I won't is quite simple. I'll explain it to you. The reason I won't list any philosophies which may provide long term happiness is irrespective of what I say you will continue to be a fuckwit, very probably addicted to video games, pornography and memes, an inference I make by your choice of attached image and the way you structure your question. You're a vulgar triviality who lacks honest appreciation for even the simplest things, so to provide you with even a single philosophy which may provide long term happiness would be to cast pearls before swine, something I have been advised never to do. Do you have something vulgar and trivial to say in response maybe?

>> No.15344927

>>15344919
see >>15344271

>> No.15344940

>>15344728
what is non edgy Nietzscheanism?
being a christcuck?

>> No.15344951

>>15344271
pol has devoured most boards

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15344953

>>15344927
>those were the times man

>> No.15344972

>>15344953
They were a good times, a simpler time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYxlSDJZbn0

btw what does the boomer meme with that specific ad placement even mean

>> No.15344989

>>15344940
Yes, everyone who thinks differently from you must be a "christcuck"

>> No.15345010

>>15344989
so neet wasn't edgy?

>> No.15345043

>>15342326
/lit/ absolutely seething

>> No.15345045

it's a choice you make
no secular or religious philosophy will force you to be happy
frying your dopamine receptors is a bad idea and will make the process more difficult

>> No.15345056

>>15342326
holy fucking based

>> No.15345062

>>15342300
I would suggest you look outside of Western philosophy

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>>15342326

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>>15342326

>> No.15345185

>>15342342
Coke, BK, neither

>> No.15345204

>There are 55 posters in this thread.
>121 replies
You know what this means? That implies one person has made half the posts in the thread

>> No.15345223

>>15344296
It's just another meme template, already done to death

>> No.15345224

>>15345204
and that kids is why statistics is useless

>> No.15345250

>>15342391
>It's not hard. Just manage your pleasures. People overindulge in things and then get burnt out and think that hedonism doesn't work.
this is me, but i don't know how to fix it. been trying for years

>> No.15345261

>>15342346
>unconcious desires
what does this mean?

>> No.15345287

based as fuck anon

>> No.15345297

>>15345204
based retard

>> No.15345376

>>15342648
>I get no pleasure out of anything but I am happy because I long for no pleasure, that I couldn't feel anyways

Isn't that just pleasure then, if it ultimately makes you feel happy?
Also never understood the criticism of hedonism that people enjoy inflicting pain upon themselves like ascetics or what not. Like if they enjoy doing it then that would just be pleasure too. Of course at that point 'pleasure' becomes so broad as to be meaningless.

>> No.15345384

>>15342300
You need balance anon, too much of anything will never please you in fact it will make you dislike it or demand something even more strong to feel anything like drugs do

>> No.15345457
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15345457

>>15342311
literal slave morality

>> No.15345467

>>15342311
Why does this gif keeps getting posted?

>> No.15345472

>>15345043
durrr meme words durrrrrr

>> No.15345499
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15345499

>>15342443
C O P E

>> No.15345553

>>15342571
>>15342524
>>15342443
>>15342388
>>15342335
>>15342342
zoom zoom

>> No.15345583

>>15345457
Nietzschefags are literal r/atheism runoff in disguise

>> No.15345588

>>15342300
nothing does, happiness is like a breeze. Sometimes it comes in and it feels fantastic, sometimes it's hot as shit. Enjoy the breeze while it's there.

>> No.15345593

>>15342311
What the fuck is happening here?

>> No.15345658

Hedonism isn't a philosophy it's a tautology.

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>>15342326
post-memetic posting is the future

>> No.15345715

>>15344728
Always the same insult, you niggas need to get more creative

>> No.15345736

>>15342300
life is more like a senoid anon, you have happy times then unhappy ones, you cant really keep any of this states unless they invent someday a happiness pill

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15346210

>It's just another meme template, already done to death

>> No.15346233

>>15346210
Proving the point

>>15345736
If there was a "happiness pill" you guys would reject it on the basis that it was a jewish conspiracy or something

>> No.15346244

>>15342300
Taoism AKA just be your true self, bro.

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15346278

>Proving the point

>> No.15346304

>>15342311
is this fake?

>> No.15346369

>>15342300
Christianity

>> No.15346392

>>15345715
Seriously though, people who take Nietzsche's immoralist ideas as more than interesting thought experiments tend to be either edgy children or sociopaths.

>> No.15346808

>>15342878
>He defends vulgarity and pornography

>> No.15346827

>>15343218
>He doesn't know that phone networks are banned from posting

>> No.15346865

>>15342300
>tell me a philosophy that does
Asceticism and the traditional family have brought happiness to almost all generations who preceded us

>> No.15346870

Happiness is meaningless. Achieving a higher level of consciousness or completeness is unrelated to whatever base idea of "happiness" you have. The quest for happiness will only end in a state of emptiness

>> No.15346968

>>15346870
That's not true. You're confusing happiness with joy.

>> No.15347020

>>15346968
>joy
/joi/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a feeling of great pleasure and happiness.

>> No.15347429

>>15345376
Hedonism is not "look for happiness", hedonism is "physical pleasure is the way you achieve happiness".

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>>15342300
Egoism, because it dispels the notion that happiness exists independently of being a postulate of religious-moral society.

>> No.15347653

>>15342326
well done

>> No.15347665

>>15342388
cat trad is the way my dude and your image is over used

>> No.15347677

>>15347592
Stirner drones are söyboys in disguise

>> No.15348186

>>15342328
>Hedonism doesn't even bring medium-term happiness. It's astounding how unenjoyable it is.
You're doing it wrong

>> No.15348187

>believing in morality because of God is a lazy delusion made by other men, therefore God isn't real and I'm better for settling for my own lazy delusion

>> No.15348233

>>15342326
>Do you have something vulgar and trivial to say in response maybe?
Yeah. I accept your concession FAGGOT.

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15348251

>>15342354
this and greek ethics.
OP stop caring about personal happiness and start doing good things in this word you can try practicing virtue.

>> No.15348272

>>15346278
I'm so very tired of this

>> No.15348373

>>15342443
Your reactions to planned stimuli are as predictable as your lack of any real intellectual merit. All you can do is quote and post, quote and post. You seethe endlessly, unable to attain the genuine happiness you see around you while simultaneously convincing yourself that you don't want to be happy.
You can't even enjoy a nice day outside, how are you expected to ever reach even the first step of self-actualization?
Now do as your programming commands, and quote me again.

>> No.15348398

>>15342326
BASED. This guy gets it. It's worthless to give pearls to the swine.

>> No.15348402
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>>15342300
Paradise engineering

https://www.abolitionist.com/

>> No.15348440

>>15345457
>implying we are not

>> No.15348455

>>15342300
>valuing happiness

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>>15347592
Based
>impying happiness exist
>implying we need to be happy
all spooks of a consumerist society

>> No.15348635

>>15348460
I swear Stirner drones are the worst offenders when it comes to just parroting condensed talking points as if they are so self-evident that you don't even need to elaborate or put any thought into it.

>> No.15348641

Happiness is a spook

>> No.15348727

>>15342326
Based fuck dimwit tourists

>> No.15348751

>>15348635
You can start by proving us that happiness exist

>> No.15348756

>>15348460
>t. Anything I feel like ignoring at any given moment is a spook
Stirner is a spook.

>>15348635
Agreed. I love Stirner himself, but all his little cultists can go rope.

>> No.15349581

>>15345204
That means the average poster has posted about twice, retard.

>> No.15349606

>>15344919
I do not think I will, actually, and the reason I won't is quite simple. I'll explain it to you. The reason I won't list any philosophies which may provide long term happiness is irrespective of what I say you will continue to be a fuckwit, very probably addicted to video games, pornography and memes, an inference I make by your choice of attached image and the way you structure your question. You're a vulgar triviality who lacks honest appreciation for even the simplest things, so to provide you with even a single philosophy which may provide long term happiness would be to cast pearls before swine, something I have been advised never to do. Do you have something vulgar and trivial to say in response maybe?

>> No.15349611

>>15342326
based.

>> No.15349614

>>15342326
dangerously based

>> No.15349617

>>15345204
it is alarming that there are people this dumb posting here

>> No.15349636

>>15345204
based negative mathematical iq

>> No.15349648

>>15342300
If happiness your end goal, you're already being hedonistic. Hedonism, the school of ethics, isn't the same thing as hedonism, in the colloquial meaning of it. Hedonism isn't necessarily about indulging in cheap pleasure, but believing that the chasing happiness (or, alternatively, minimising unhappiness) is the purpose of life.

>> No.15349922

>>15345261
what you truly want. For instance, when people talk about immigration, you don't *really* mean race. Implicitly, the conversation is about race. Juden Peterstein was right about one thing and that is what you think you think is not the same as what you actually think

>> No.15349974

>>15342300
Epicureanism

>> No.15349987

>>15349617
gb2reddit smart person

>> No.15350010

>>15348186
this. pickling yourself in pleasure to the point of it being soul sucking isn't fulfilling desire, its neurotic compulsion. It does not seem to me that hedonism is incompatible with temperance and doing good for others

>> No.15350012

>>15342300
If there was a philosophy that brings long-term happiness, everyone in the world would follow that. People have too many different viewpoints values about living for that request o be almost impossible.

>> No.15350024

>>15342326
BASED, OP is transparently a huge faggot. Should an hero

>> No.15350210

>>15342376

Literally the perfect description of philosophy

>> No.15350406

>>15350210
Philosophy is search for the truth

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>>15342878
It is time for you to return, return to your cave, to R*ddit. You have no business being here, you must understand this. The smarmy way you type, to call you a faggot would be a patitude, a given. To call you a nigger would be an injustice to the breed- for they at least have a beastly vitality and enjoyment from life that comes with the dull ignorance endemic to being one of the Hylics. You're something much worse. Not due to virtue of great magnitutes of evil, no, that would be much too grand of a thing to actually
>be
You are nothing. A mediocre nothing. How old are you? Over 20? Pathetic, it's unsightly for a grown man to act this way. Under 20? Pathetic, you are wasting your youth on these meaningless words, droning in the same way as millions of others do. Leave.

>> No.15351579

>>15342300
Dan Bilzerian proved hedonism wrong by experimentation. It took 10000 years but Hedonism is BTFO forever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZFjNlvmqsI

>> No.15351597

>>15342326
Man,I’m just a drug addict looking for someone to tell me what the fuck to do and why. My surface level ability to argue left me dismissive of all reason all my life and as the end nears I just wish to have peace. Not OP just looking for help from someone who actually sounds like they have a foothold

>> No.15351603

>>15342391
Redefining hedonism by your own guidelines to justify your weakness doesn’t excuse you from being a hedonist you hedonistic fuck

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15351863

>I'm so very tired of this

>> No.15351884

>>15342326
Hell yeah

>> No.15351891

>>15342300
The only argument against hedonism is that pleasure literally isn't good enough for you, and if that's the case, then I don't know what to say cause you are FUCKED

>> No.15352454

>>15342326
>video games bad!
boomer retard

>> No.15352493

>>15352454
>old good
>new bad

>> No.15352509

>>15352493
The eternal boomer argument
I don't know how anyone with more than 2 brain cells can think that it's a good argument, though

>> No.15352673

>>15351579
Any person that claims to be a hedonist and then says we need constant pleasure isn't a hedonist, they're just retarded. He didn't btfo hedonism, he just proved it right.

>> No.15352698

>>15352454
>defending his addiction

>> No.15352705

>>15343238
based

>> No.15353798

>>15344186
Go back. You reek of it.

>> No.15353810

>>15350893
Cringe

>> No.15353812

>>15349648
Hedonism is not "happiness as an end goal". In practice, Stoics had happiness as their end goal and they were not hedonistic.
Hedonism is the belief that pleasure brings happiness.

>> No.15353821

>>15344186
No fucking wonder.
>hAhA i WiLl WrItE iN aLtErNaTiNg UpPeR cAsE aNd LoWeR cAsE tHiS mAKeS yOu LoOk SiLlY hAhA

>> No.15353915

>>15344192
This.
>>15344262
This also, but Buddhism solves this problem best.

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>I do not think I will, actually, and the reason I won't is quite simple. I'll explain it to you. The reason I won't list any philosophies which may provide long term happiness is irrespective of what I say you will continue to be a fuckwit, very probably addicted to video games, pornography and memes, an inference I make by your choice of attached image and the way you structure your question. You're a vulgar triviality who lacks honest appreciation for even the simplest things, so to provide you with even a single philosophy which may provide long term happiness would be to cast pearls before swine, something I have been advised never to do. Do you have something vulgar and trivial to say in response maybe?

>> No.15353936

>>15342328
Whatchu mean ever eaten a Big Mac with a large fries & a large Coca Cola plus an m&m McFlurry then smoked some marlboros? That’s pretty fucking nice

>> No.15353967

>>15343109
Yeah stand upright.....................
Just like my firm cock in a Mexican milf cleaning hooker ladies ASS

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>>15350893
kill yourself tripfaggot

>> No.15354044

>>15342326
Based

>> No.15354286

>>15345715
If you keep getting this same reply, you must consistently post immature shit.

>> No.15354298

>>15344972
Monster Inc. started the boomer meme on /fit/ as a viral marketing campaign for their beverage brand

>> No.15354526

>>15352454
A concrete sign of an addiction is when you automatically defend something that applies to you.
For example, if somebody plays video games daily yet is not utterly obsessed with them and thinking about them all day, they would read that post and not think twice about themselves. You automatically go on the defensive, because you know it is specifically targeting your addiction.
Seek help.

>> No.15355067

>>15344186
so true.

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>>15342326

>> No.15355226

>>15353936
That provides enjoyment for what, 2 hours maximum?

Then you crash and crave another cigarette.

>> No.15356094

>>15355226
Then you entertain yourself with the monotony required to allow yourself to enjoy those things in the first place

>> No.15356382

>>15353936
The only time I ever enjoyed a big Mac was after fasting for three days. My caveman primal brain told me "mmm burger" and all I wanted was a big Mac. At that point anything would have tasted delectable, and I have long forgotten the feeling I felt from that burger. I still hold that McDonald's is some of the worst food you can eat, along with all other fast food joints, and my fastbreak would have been better enjoyed if I made my own damn steak burgers.

>> No.15356516

>>15353986
Why would I not use a tripcode? It's a function of the website, after all. I'm a unique personality and an individual, and I choose to use a tripcode to reflect this. I encourage you to trip as well friend!

>> No.15356557

>>15348251
correct but why did he have to say that in the most sterile, ugly way imaginable

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>>15342311
>>15345467
>>15346304

>> No.15356622

>>15345457
Not slave morality in anyway, it's a philosophy that is essentially based on the self almost entirely.
Honestly, in what way do you refer to Stoicism as slave-morality, even much of Nietzsche's thought are Stoic ideas and I think he in general appreciated a lot of Stoic philosophy.

>> No.15356660

>>15356516
Affects the quality and sincerity of discussions which should be focused on the content rather than some cringe attempts to accrue notoriety on a Sao Paulan lamp manufacture forum

>> No.15356666

>>15356516
>Why would I not use a tripcode? It's a function of the website, after all.
Read the third panel. Then, neck yourself.

>> No.15356668

>>15343238
holy based

>> No.15356896

>>15342326
based

>> No.15356918

>>15350406
But that is implying there be a universal truth.

>> No.15356976

>>15342300
Catholicism.
>Our hearts are restless until they rest in you o Lord
People have known this forever.

>> No.15356985

>>15342300
science

>> No.15357012

Outstanding discord raid broes, let's move on to some other board now.

>> No.15357046

>>15342326
Holy shit, OP, you just got owned.

>> No.15357054

>>15342326
YES

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>I do not think I will, actually, and the reason I won't is quite simple. I'll explain it to you. The reason I won't list any philosophies which may provide long term happiness is irrespective of what I say you will continue to be a fuckwit, very probably addicted to video games, pornography and memes, an inference I make by your choice of attached image and the way you structure your question. You're a vulgar triviality who lacks honest appreciation for even the simplest things, so to provide you with even a single philosophy which may provide long term happiness would be to cast pearls before swine, something I have been advised never to do. Do you have something vulgar and trivial to say in response maybe?