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15361156 No.15361156 [Reply] [Original]

Linda is 31 years old, single, outspoken, and very bright. She majored in philosophy. As a student, she was deeply concerned with issues of discrimination and social justice, and also participated in anti-nuclear demonstrations.

Which is more probable?

Linda is a bank teller.


Linda is a bank teller and is active in the feminist movement.

>> No.15361168

>>15361156
I don't know but what I can tell you is that that is not a picture of Linda

>> No.15361173

>>15361156
get lost saddo

>> No.15361191
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Linda's single bedroom apartment smells like cat litter, and she spends all day tweeting about nazis that wont fuck her.

>> No.15361206

>>15361156
bank teller.

>> No.15361211

>>15361156
Yes
I watch 3blue1brown instead of going college

>> No.15361224

>>15361156
Linda is a bank teller, obviously. What kind of retard would answer otherwise?

>> No.15361237

k.

>> No.15361243

>>15361156
If that's Linda my answer is she will most likely be gobbling on this DICK haHAa

>> No.15361253

>>15361206
>>15361224
justify your answer

>> No.15361263

>>15361253
She's too pretty to be a feminist.

>> No.15361269

>>15361253
Because A and B implies A. One is the subset of the other.

>> No.15361271

>>15361253
logic dictates that in every scenario where the second proposition is true, the first is also, but there are many situations where the first is true but the second is not. Therefore, there are more scenarios where linda is a bank teller than there are scenarios where linda is a bank teller and a feminist.

>> No.15361274

>>15361156
>Linda is a bank teller.

>>15361168
Yeah.

>> No.15361281
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>>15361156
You can't fool us OP, we've all read Kahneman's work.

Linda is most likely a sex worker on onlyfans.

>> No.15361290

>>15361281
i prefer based gigerenzer

>> No.15361292

>>15361269
but what if B is also implied by A? is the mere possibility that B is not implied by A enough to tilt the scales from "i don't know" to "A is more likely"?

>> No.15361294

I hate this question. You have to ignore the first piece of information given as it's totally irrelevant, but it implies something nonetheless.. If you just ask people which is more probable without the former description, they'd tell say it's likelier she's a bank teller.

>> No.15361300

>>15361274
>>15361271
>>15361269
Actually the trick is by the common usage of language it is implied the option "Linda is a bank teller" means "Linda is a bank teller and not a feminist."

So if you pick the second one you're not speaking English properly and are therefore retarded.

>> No.15361303

>>15361292
it doesn’t though.

In every scenario where linda is a bankteller and a feminist, linda is a bank teller.

In every scenario where linda is a bank teller, linda is not necessarily a feminist

>> No.15361306

>>15361224
Yes, any two conditions are going to be less probably than one of the two conditions. But people think it means, if Linda is going to be either a bank teller inactive in the feminist movement or a bank teller active in the feminist movement, then which one is more likely? And given her background, people will surely lean towards the other, even if this is not actually so true, because "active in the feminist movement" is not exactly easily defined, and what do we know about activity in the feminist movement? More likely, they interpret this as "a self defined feminist".
The question, and thus he who puts it, is far dumber than the person who answers, simply, bank teller and feminist.

>> No.15361308

>>15361290
My brain heuristically compressed his name to geezer

>> No.15361315

>>15361294
thats because the heuristic part of your brain is telling you the second is more likely, and lets be honest in the real world, given linda’s background, its probably a pretty safe guess.

>> No.15361328

>>15361306
is it not valid to take an interest in strange quirks in language?

>> No.15361414

>>15361303
it's true that linda is not necessarily a feminist, and also true that a bank teller linda is not necessarily a feminist

however, it is also true that linda is not necessarily not necessarily a feminist. there may be a necessary connection between linda and feminism unknown to us. it seems to me that if we treat linda, bank telling, and feminism, as completely unknown, then there isn't no obvious reason for assuming either that there is a necessary connection or that there isn't a necessary connection between any of them. saying that mere linda + bank teller is more probable than linda + bank teller + feminism just because there are less items in the list seems arbitrary. it's like we are treating the mere possibility that bank teller linda can fail to be a feminist as requiring more luck than simply being bank teller linda or just being linda.

>> No.15361447

>>15361414
You make some valid points, but out of necessity we must assume some necessary connection between the state of Linda being a bank teller and a feminist because of the not necessary nature of her background provided to us, which in the grand scheme was not necessary but we must consider anyway.

Consider how if there is not a not necessary not necessary connection between Linda and feminism, the bank teller connection is unnecessary. Neither is there no obvious reason for Linda to necessary be a feminist. For example, many feminists don't have jobs. Probablity is a bit of a red herring here, it implies a necessary connection between the probability of Linda being a bank teller and Linda not being a feminist. There is arguably even a causation if there is a nonzero correlation between people who have jobs such as bank telling and people who are feminists.

>> No.15361456

>>15361156
>philosophy
LOL everything that is called 'philosophy' today is mostly social science bullshit

>> No.15361681

>>15361414
>saying that mere linda + bank teller is more probable than linda + bank teller + feminism just because there are less items in the list seems arbitrary.
It seems arbitrary to you because you're retarded and bad at math.

>> No.15361784

>>15361156
>31 years old, single
welp leftover crap
she probably is the latter

>> No.15362228

>>15361156
>Linda is 31 years old, single, outspoken,
>very bright.
Doubt.
Also retarded obvious question.

>> No.15362468

>>15361300
>Actually the trick is by the common usage of language it is implied the option "Linda is a bank teller" means "Linda is a bank teller and not a feminist."
No, you absolute idiot, it does not. Your comment reeks of anglo analytical """"""philosophy"""""

>> No.15362478

Oh. Very original. I've heard that one before. But don't worry, need thou not be afraid, for we can turn a humdrum, forgettable name like Linda into something magical like this - Lindonius. And it's that easy. We can add 'onius,' 'ainous,' or anous,' to just about anything and it becomes magical.

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>>15361156
One cannot be a bank teller without also being an active feminist, they would get fired. And since implied in the first proposition is the negation of the second clause, at least in English, the probability of being a non-feminist teller is far less.

>> No.15362792

>>15362478
what is this meme?

>> No.15362815

>>15361253
Mathematically it's more likely for one thing to be true than for two things to simultaneously be true..

>> No.15362848

>>15361300
You're the kind of dipshit who gave us the abomination "and/or".

If anything, the original question is nonstandard English. It's obvious to any native speaker that it's a contrived trick question.