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Anonymous Mon May 25 22:15:50 2020 No.15452960 [Reply] [Original]

Did he save metaphysics?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 22:25:59 2020 No.15453015 >>15452960 literally ended it, by his account. you can read two dogmas in all of, what, thirty minutes?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 22:29:24 2020 No.15453038 >>15452960 He threw it a life-preserver when it was close to death, but the real 'saving' happened later in the century, with the work of Lewis and Kripke.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 22:42:17 2020 No.15453111 >>15453015 wasn't his attack on the analytic/synthetic distinction enough?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 22:44:10 2020 No.15453122 >>15452960 No? That's Quine, who thinks psychology and epistemology is the same thing

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 22:48:49 2020 No.15453139 >>15453122 He thought that epistemology should be a subfield of psychology

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Anonymous Mon May 25 22:59:58 2020 No.15453204

>>15453015
That did the opposite of ending it. It was an attack on logical positivism, which leaned on the distinction in their attempt to eliminate metaphysics. Metaphysics is perfectly acceptable to Quine when understood as the set of ontological commitments of our best scientific theories. Read 'On What There Is'.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 23:00:42 2020 No.15453205 >>15453139 Which is a cringe take

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 23:01:05 2020 No.15453206 >>15453122 >>15453139 The thread is about Quine's attitude to metaphysics, not epistemology.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 23:03:30 2020 No.15453227 disregard quine, obtain strawson

Anonymous Tue May 26 00:22:45 2020 No.15453669

>>15453204
Will do but I thought the upshot of Two Dogmas was radical empiricism i.e., the ever-subject-to-change web of knowledge? Seems like a pretty clear Humean style reduction as compared to, say. Lewis style metaphysics where we permit a whole lot in.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 00:23:52 2020 No.15453679 >>15453206 I mean...our epistemology is how we’re gonna secure our metaphysics...but that’s none of my business.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 00:36:50 2020 No.15453760 >>15453166 Bohr never said that.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 00:45:07 2020 No.15453817 >>15453204 >Metaphysics is perfectly acceptable to Quine when understood as the set of ontological commitments of our best scientific theories. So just science

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 00:48:26 2020 No.15453832 >>15453817 Science interpreted realistically rather than instrumentally. So, whatever our best theories quantify over, no matter how exotic, must be assumed to exist.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 05:04:29 2020 No.15454880 >>15453832 Imagine being this much of a bugman slave

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 05:24:22 2020 No.15454955 >>15453122 >>15453139 Same as Mach

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