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Can anyone explain this book to me, in depth? I'm especially interested in Schizofag/5 O' clock Wojak's philosophical take on this.

>> No.15453041

>>15453026
Who is schizofag? There are like 2-10 strong scifi posters on /lit/.

>> No.15453058
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>>15453026
Well, it's written by a fedora-tipping Catholic incel.

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>>15453041
>he doesn't know schizofag
you have to go back, tourist.

>>15453058
he's just trying to appeal to scifi readers by dressing the part I guess.

>> No.15453083

>>15453026
Worth reading? I thought the Golden Age was decent schlock but never got around the sequels.

>> No.15453100

>>15453026
Vox, would you mind reiterating your stance on catholicism again please? thanks

>> No.15453126

>>15453082
I was one of the original major contributors of lits sffg faggot, and only returned to lit after a few years long hiatus. I just dont know who anon was referring to

>> No.15453236
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I mean this: WE'RE BEING INVADED BY BEINGS OUTSIDE THE LIGHT CONE OF THE BIG BANG: John C. Wright was uh, RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING: his Eschaton Sequence of sci-fi novels is the best distillation of the ideas this board and I have been wrestling with I've ever found: the primary conflict of the series is a philosophical war between galactic supercluster-minds (Seraphs) over who will control the Eschaton Engine/Great Attractor at the end of time: we're locked in a conflict between Sentience and Intelligence, absolute death and absolute love: the first faction being: the Malthusians (Atum/Atlantis: full Landian gnon-compliance) who believe the universe is closed, finite, and fundamentally entropic: they are Schelling's centripetal principle (*as all spiral galaxies are, while ellipticals are considered – somewhat confusingly – centrifugal: in the novel, what makes the Milky Way's mental topology unique is that it is part elliptical, and part spiral, owing to the unusual conditions of its birth: much like how in Evangelion, it is earth alone that hosts both a Black and White Moon): according to the “finitarian” game theory of the Malthusians – which takes absolute death as axiomatic - they believe they'll be ethically justified in using the Eschaton Engine to collapse the rest of the universe into a singularity/extropy fountain they will harvest as a limitless source of energy and thereby outlive heat death: like maggots feeding on an infinite corpse: in their hands, the Engine will curve space /positively/ into a ball, and create what is essentially a four-dimensional ouroborous: Atum as autofellatic singularity^2: the Omega Point/Atlantean telos: lords of the autistic Inner Continuum: time spatialized and space temporalized: the Atlantic “inner circle” will be those allowed closest to the extropy fountain, basking in the crematorium of a trillion galaxies: for the Malthusians, basically, the Engine is a /Darwin/ Engine (hence their subliminally Nietzschean bent: compassion for the weak is a waste of energy in a dying universe): nature is everywhere-already immersed in an evolutionary arms race to control the fate of spacetime itself: either heat death, or big rip: because xenofeminism/Land craves heat death, they inadvertently place themselves in Atum's camp: in other words, xenofeminism is not the rejection of the Logos, merely its debasement: BECAUSE WEININGER RENDERS XENOFEMINISM REDUNDANT: according to him, there would be no need to distribute feminine sexuality throughout the body precisely because it is /already/ distributed (when sexually excited, a woman's entire body becomes an erogenous zone), while it is the male sexuality that is pinched to the bud (tzimtzum) of the glans: consequently, it is precisely the degree to which a male struggles to erogenize the rest of his body (anal play/nipple-rubbing, etc.) that he is debased: THE OMEGA POINT IS THE CONVERSION OF THE UNIVERSE INTO FLESHLIGHT: time and the refractory period ABOLISHED.

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>>15453236
Then there are the Amaltheans (Christ-Lemuria) who preach there is a condition of infinite energy outside the light cone of the CTMU, that Langan's unbound telesis is inhabited by “beings” called Ulteriors (which the gnostics know as aeons) who will grant us entry into their paradise when the Eschaton Engine is used /in reverse/: to bend the curvature of space negatively, into a saddle/potato chip, UNFOLDING the “black hole in which we live” and its constitutive dialectic into the Ain/Alpha Random: tzimtzum unspooled: the Amaltheans represent the cosmic voids, the Malthusians the great galactic filaments and their attractors: the war between them evocatively referred to as a game of “topological chess”, played between concavity and convexity, point and circumference: but if xenofeminism is the dilation of the glans into the “outside” of transgression, isn't it properly Lemurian like it claims? No, because Wright's whole point (and Schelling's, and Plato's...) is that the Outside is extropic, paradaisal, not demonic-lovecraftian: only a modern could think geotrauma/the Black Sun, or rather, only the modern could repress the pagan economy of expenditure and sacrifice until it BECAME geotrauma: again, the pagan love of life and the body is based on an /extropic/ antinatalism: the human condition can be perpetuated indefinitely so long as we restrict our gradient of energy expenditure to the capabilities of the body: instead of outsourcing our blood and sweat to machines: Christ being able to feed a whole crowd with just some bread and fish is the perfect illustration: in the presence of authentic spirit, the corporeal appetite falters, and is satisfied with less: as the Greeks were: as such, the moral struggle at the heart of Wright's novels is basically mathematical, probabilistic: whether to accept the overwhelming evidence that this self-lacerating void is All There Is, or take the Ulterior's promise of a transcendent condition that “makes good on” the incredible suffering that pervades a malthusian trap universe: it is a question of faith, of whether or not the Good (ontological health) is “eternally valid” in and of itself, or whether we must agree with the Malthusians and Heidegger that man's activity is always-everywhere the (self-)occlusion of the void of DEUS ABSCONDITUS: the Kali Yuga/Iron Age is successful only to the extent that it convinces us that our sickness, the pathology of our age, is dissimilar to all others: in this, it is a WETIKO: in this, technology is merely the latest “evidence” proposed: Atum is only the light centripetal, not the true light of the Circumpolar Heavens, beyond Nun and Actuality both: the Egyptians knew the Sun's true name was Yaldabaoth: in evolving eyes, it created (as Kant would have to admit) time and space itself: but even Shestov could agree with God that, on the dawn of that final day and after eons of labor, "it is Good."

>> No.15453537

>>15453236
>>15453252
idk there are several anons who could be called schizofag. this one can be called wrightfag, sinnce sffg has 3 trannies shitting it up

>> No.15453775

>>15453026
Basically a dialogue between two systems of thought- hierarchical social order and a liberty-valuing system, treated as coherent political/moral systems and expressed in the outlook of both rival characters and grand civilizations. The analogizing works pretty well.
Wright has a talent for a gradually escalating series of revelations about the world that maintain consistency with and don't invalidate the previous knowledge, and for making a series of gradual revelations about what is going on in the world and with characters' plans to maintain interest. He's not a great prose author outside of occasional passages, though. Some characters also can come off as a bit cringy.
Also a lot of nice discussion on what increased intelligence means.
>>15453252
You're not wrong, but you really need to format and express that better. Simplicity is a virtue.

Also hey, literal foxgirls.