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Is there any actual argument against this?

>> No.15505359
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15505359

>>15505345
no, he's absolutely right, my God is the only one true living God.

>> No.15505361

Most of the pagan gods are "real" in some capacity, they're just not worthy of worship because they're not omniscient and omnipotent and they aren't the Creator of the universe.

The vast majority of pagan gods are either fairy spirits, demons in disguise, or some other class of ethereal being. Many of them are quite real, but it's not precise to call them "God."

>> No.15505365
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15505365

Nope

>> No.15505370

>>15505345

>what is monotheism

You can't compare local deities to the God that is One. The One that is eternal beyond our understanding and time and space isn't comparable to Boko-Boko the monkey king who lives on the mountain because the One is by necessity the same everywhere.

>> No.15505379

>>15505345
He's essentially saying that if lots of claims about something exist, then it means that it's ridiculous to say that any one of them is true. It's silly. Naturally, atheists always have to clothe their weak arguments in mockery to conceal their flaws.

>> No.15505384

It's a good argument against monotheism.
It's a terrible argument against paganism or any polytheistic system.

>> No.15505388

>>15505365
I'm not sure it's correct to say that religious people have the same reasons for dismissing other religions as atheists have for dismissing all religions. There are completely different presuppositions at play.

>> No.15505389

I will never understand why anyone would ever pay attention to an anglo.

>> No.15505394

>>15505370
>>15505379
>>15505384

retards.

>> No.15505406

>>15505345
All of those Gods have a system of ethics that basically boils down to 'be good to eachother and take care of the weak.' Remarkable similarities. A rose by any other name etc etc.

>> No.15505422

>>15505345
God is simply the image of one's ideal. Everyone has a God, and their God is as real as they are. Comedians aren't philosophers so obviously they wouldn't understand this.

>> No.15505425

>>15505345
This comedian really gets it, man.

>> No.15505455

>>15505345
What's there to argue? He just said my God is real and the others aren't.

>> No.15505470

Most crypto-christian atheists worship money, sex, and drugs. An idol can be anything you worship which is not God. It's similar to how the ancient Israelites knew about God but decided to worship their false idols anyway.

Everyone worships something, and Ricky Gervais probably worships attention-getting, money, and sex. His idolatry and sin will be punished with hell. Because he misleads so many, it would be better for him to have a millstone tied around his neck and thrown into the sea.

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>>15505345
It's not an argument though, it's a glib comment used by Facebookers to virtue signal their "rationality" and get likes because it aligns with their beliefs.
>there have been billions of parents all throughout history, but the parents you grew up with are actually YOUR biological parents
I'm an atheist btw, but no thanks to failed New Romantic musicians who turned to comedy

>> No.15505476

>>15505345
He's asking a question in bad faith. He really doesn't give a fuck about how many gods exist if they exist at all. Atheists are the first to criticize from a privileged position of having no ethical standards
for Christians for not following their ethical standard. Atheists are morally, intellectually, and philosophically bankrupt. No skin in the game at all.

>> No.15505511

>>15505370
Your god lives on a mountain, you goon except for the times where he lives in a tent and the time where he lives on top of the firmament. The only difference between you and the Boko-Bokans is that they have the good sense to keep such nonsense to themselves.

>> No.15505557

Litteraly just the yes meme is a good enough answer.

>> No.15505572

>>15505345
The others arent "silly made up nonsense", theyre just as metaphorically real as any other god. the main way gods vary qualitatively is hte practical and psychological effects on society from believing in them

Eg monotheism is for uniting disparate cultures. Polytheism for describing the evolutionary history / mythology of your tribe, and the different ideals/archetypes that exist

>> No.15505573

>>15505455
Way too obvious bait

>> No.15505580

>>15505359
Suddenly I have a boner for AI technicians. It will pass, in favor of less desperate specimens: It is possible to be too demotic in portrayal.

>> No.15505764

>>15505345
Each of those gods are the same one. He doesn't care what you call him. He only wants you to acknowledge he exists.

>> No.15505785

>>15505345
God as a concept arises indepentdently from pretty much all cultures despite the fact they're ofen isolated from one another. Just because they apply a different characteristics to what they see doesn't nescessasrily mean they're not seeing the same thing.

>> No.15505794

>>15505345
no, just fallacies of special pleading like:
>>15505361
>>15505370

>>15505379
No, he's saying that your claim is identical to thousands that you agree are fictitious. Therefore yours is also fictitious. To which you respond that yours is different because it's special- just like every one of those other thousands would say about theirs, because it's all the same thing.

>> No.15505805

>>15505470
>atheists are actually christians, they're just mad at god
imagine having an ego this big

>> No.15505817

Remember a couple months ago when we had this thread and it was handily refuted? I remember.

>> No.15505841

>>15505794
>No, he's saying that your claim is identical to thousands that you agree are fictitious. Therefore yours is also fictitious.
>there is no lizard god therefore that must mean there is no dolphin god

>> No.15505847

He's right though. Allah is the one true god

>> No.15505851

>>15505345
"There have been X explantions for Y, they've all been false, but yours is true"

How is that an argument?

>> No.15505858

>>15505470
T.brainlet

>> No.15505863
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>>15505345
I am an atheist but this is a dumb fucking argument.
>There have been nearly 3000 explanations of how gravity works but only yours is actually true. The others are silly made up nonsense. But not yours. Yours is real.
>[Talking to Andrew Wiles] There have been nearly 3000 attempted proofs of the Fermat's Last Theory but only yours is correct. The others are silly made up nonsense. But not yours. Yours is real.
>There have been nearly 3000 metaphysical philosophical systems but only liberal atheism is actually true. The others are silly made up nonsense. But not liberal atheism. Liberal atheism is real.

>> No.15505866

>>15505473
Lol he created the best British comedy of all time

>> No.15505873

>>15505851
I more like child's tantrum than an argument really. He expect us to do all the work. And when he hears the answers, he will shakes his head and roll his eyes anyway

>> No.15505878

>>15505863
I don’t think you understand the argument.

It’s a decent argument for the common person, who knows the Greek, Egyptian and Indian gods are myths, but somehow yours Is real

>> No.15505884

>>15505873
He’s smarter than you

>> No.15505885

>>15505878
What are you, stupid?

>> No.15505889

>>15505805
Not all atheists are Christian, but many atheists have not abandoned their Christian tradition for something like communism. Instead they believe everything a liberal Christian would believe, except they don't believe in God, heaven/hell, ultimate justice, things that contemporary science doesn't indicate.

>> No.15505892

>>15505863
Ideas about gravity and Fermat's Last Theorem were arrived at by trial and error, each attempt proving better then the last. Religions don't evolve in that manner. Your point about liberal atheism, however, stands.

>> No.15505897

>>15505858
What do you believe?

>> No.15505898

>>15505345
God is not one nor many. God is God.

>> No.15505903

>>15505345
>I'm a God because I'm the king
>the sun and this animal are gods because uh.... just worship it!
>the world was created by an unmoved mover that exists outside of time while also being a part of every living thing
Yeah, because those are all completely and totally the same exact things.

>> No.15505926

>>15505903
That argument can be applied to any higher power, it wasn't even conceived by a Judeo-Christian.

>> No.15505999

>>15505866
I didn't realize he worked on Yes, Minister

>> No.15506018

>>15505892
Take a history of science class before you post nonsense.

>> No.15506042

>>15506018
Forgive me, in my ignorance I thought it went (roughly speaking) Aristotlean motion then, Kepler's laws of celestial mechanics, then Galileo's work, then Newton's Universal theory of gravitation then Special relativity then General Relativity. Tell me more about how you think Einstein came down from Mount Sinai with the theory of General Relativity written on two stone tablets and after a period of holy war, Einstein won.

>> No.15506058

>>15506042
The name Einstein literally means stone-worker. Clearly you're wrong dude.

>> No.15506059

>>15506042
Not the anon you're replying to but i think your notion that the progress to find the answer to FLT or gravity has been linear is just wrong. There have been many many parallel attempts to explain gravity all having nothing to do with each other and completely different. One of the (loose) strands of progress eventually lead to general relativity but there have been many many attempts outside of this chain that have never lead to anything else.
Same with Fermat's Last Theorem. It's one of the problems with the highest number of attempted solutions (mostly from shizos). Most of the attempts do not form a linear pattern.

>> No.15506061

'yes'

>> No.15506084

>>15506058
Technically it means "one stone", but this deserves a (You)
>>15506059
It's not been linear, no. But the models have been tested and the one's we take as true are the ones that passed the tests. There have been fringe theories, but they get discarded due to failure to pass tests. Unlike religion where the matter is settled by combat and popularity.

>> No.15506101

>>15506042

Your making the mistake of assuming that only the successful (and hence remembered) ideas existed, ignoring all the wrong ones that were also formulated.

>> No.15506113

>>15506101
I am aware that wrong ideas existed, but they died out due to testing, not because they fell out of popularity or because all the followers are dead, which is how religions die. People used to believe the maggots spontaneously generated in rotting meat, that theory lived for centuries. It died because Jan Swammerdan proved that if you block flies from accessing the rotting meat, no maggots appear. There are many stories of wrong theories in science and I've heard many of them, but they all die because somebody tried to prove that they were true and couldn't do it.

>> No.15506133

>>15506113
>but they all die because somebody tried to prove that they were true and couldn't do it.

lol no that's not how it works retard.

>> No.15506138

>>15505903
Yeah, animals and the sun actually exist

>> No.15506151

>>15506133
Do you suppose they just pile all of the theories on a table and wait for God to knock the incorrect ones off like the Church Fathers did when they were compiling the New Testament?

>> No.15506154

>>15505422
>God is simply the image of one's ideal
cope, god has always been portrayed as a person, only recently religicucks have tried to reinterpret it so that they can still believe in this nonsense

>> No.15506220

>>15505841
>>15505851
The claim is that there is no epistemologic principle that makes it reasonable for you to believe in the christian god without also making it reasonable for you to believe in the lizard god, which exclude each other. In saying that you have no grounds on which to believe in the lizard god, it is claimed, you must also reject the reasonableness of belief in the christian god, because the grounds for believing in them are the same.
To put a parallel, there is no grounds that would make it reasonable for you to claim that a box of unknown content certainly contains a carrot while excluding all other contents (wheel, pole, mushroom...) as impossible; because they have the same grounds and the degrees of probability for them are not known to be different.
It is obvious that there is something or nothing in the box; the proof is based on the reasonableness of belief.

>> No.15506230

>>15505422
>Comedians aren't philosophers
ricky gervais has a degree in philosophy

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>>15505345

>> No.15506243

>>15505406
The thing is that atheists and humanists generally also agree that there is a certain set of morals you should adhere to. Heck, even religions that aren't as devotional, like Buddhism, agree on this. Is this really an argument for the existence of a God?

>> No.15506325

>>15506138

so does the universe hence the One

>> No.15506336

>>15506230
>having a philosophy degree

still doesn’t mean he’s a philosopher

>> No.15506348

>>15505365
>monotheism is just polytheism but with one god and has absolutely no other major implications

>> No.15506353

>>15506336
anyone can be a fucking philosopher anon. my fucking dog is more of a philosopher than most people on this site, and she just sits and licks her own butthole most of the time

>> No.15506355

>>15505345
That's a weak gotcha - all these people agree that there is a God, they are not sure about his specific characteristics.

>> No.15506362

>gods
there is only one.
just because muslims sacrifice goats to him and Christians go to mass for him doesn't mean he isn't the same god.

>> No.15506485

>>15506154
only portrayed as a person for idiots like yourself to easily believe in. Much easier when its a ghost daddy watching you, judging you based on how close you pursue that ideal. once you realise theres no ghost daddy you have no choice but to reinterpret it if you still believe in the positives of that ideal

>> No.15506518

>>15506362
but you cannot believe in Christianity and Islam and go to the same heaven

>> No.15506543

>>15505345
He has such a limited fucking view of what a god is, yeah there’ve been a ton of gods so obviously they must all be the same thing

>> No.15506551

>>15506362
he's not though. jesus disproves this.

>> No.15506574

>a whole episode of his most famous series is dedicated to Dostoevsky
>is an atheist

I don't get it. Is it an act? Does he just hate organized religion?

>> No.15506577
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15506577

>>15505345
Yes, read classic books made at least 100 years ago.

Or if you really don't want to read and prefer midbrow pop intellectuals, something like JP videos could do it too.
But if you can, read books.

>> No.15506585

>>15505361
This is more or less correct. The difference in the monotheistic tradition is that it fits in with a number of philosophical arguments such as Aristotle's unmoved mover or Plato's divine craftsman/demiurge, or Descartes' perfection arguments. So there is a conception of a one true God that is real, it's just not any one God from a particular scripture.

>> No.15506599

>>15506353
>he's not a philosopher!
>he has a degree in philosophy
>yeah well my dog likes her butthole
I assume your next big reveal is you have a philosophy degree and are a well respected philosopher after giving such a shitty argument.

>> No.15506616

>>15505892
>Ideas about gravity ... were arrived at by trial and error, each attempt proving better then the last.
No Anon

>> No.15506628

>>15505580
could you clarify what you meant by this bro

>> No.15506630

>>15506151

Never in the history of science was a theory ever rejected as false because nobody was able to prove it true. The fact that you think this shows how ignorant you are.

>> No.15506637

>>15505345
>OF COURSE JUPITER ISN'T REAL, BUT ZEUS IS HUH? HAHA
Hopefully you see why this is retarded. Evolution cleanly refutes the OP.

>> No.15506644

>>15505345
Aquinas proved monotheism. Besides, all those pagan gods are just animist spirits when push comes to shove. Not that different from Catholic belief in angels, really.

>> No.15506656

>>15506348
this. actually polytheism in half of cases can be considered monotheist from a christian perspective. just not personified or if personified then done so in a monistic way (gods are one god, etc). even the reason why the words deus and god are used to mean God is because they were used to describe the sky-father gods of their respective pantheons without specific character identity. because this type of god has many identities. i think polytheism vs monotheism was just a political tool, it's otherwise incoherent.

>> No.15506664 [DELETED] 

>>15505345
Only a handful have lasted throughout the last few thousand years, island people praying to volcano gods don’t really count.

>> No.15506665

>>15506644
>animist spirits
that might be their origin as with the christian god as a character but they had long superseded that, probably before the christian god had (it's origin). maybe unknown local gods were more like animist spirits? not the pantheons though.

>> No.15506691

>>15505361
But Yahweh isn't a demon is disguise. After all, Yahweh says he isn't.

>> No.15506724

>>15505345
>There have been nearly 3000 Gods so far but only yours actually exists. The others are silly made up nonsense. But not yours. Yours is real.
Yes
These atheists are incredibly stupid

>> No.15506749
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15506749

>>15505345
>fetishizing the real

>> No.15506884
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>>15505345

Nations (entities existing in our imagination) and fiat currency (pure bookkeeping) are both made up abstractions that aren't physically real. Yet because they alter people's actions, they are real to us.

In classical times kings would go to war or not based on divinations. Belief in the gods altered people's actions, thus the gods changed people's reality and were real as far as many people were concerned.

How is believing in a god any different than believing in the existence of nations or fiat currency? Nations and fiat currency exist because we believe in them. If someone believes in god, then god exists for them. If someone doesn't believe in god, then god doesn't exist for them. Our subjective realities differ.

>> No.15506925

It's literally just a sophism.

>> No.15507098

>>15505345
Not at all, people will just come up with schizoid arguments to why their god is the truest every time

>> No.15507121
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15507121

>>15505345
Pantheism

>> No.15507720

>>15506884


The comparison of God and money in terms of tangibility is weak. You also compare existence to utility, which is weak.

you might as well say my name is faggot because people believe its faggot. These ontological questions are fun experiments when you're 18-22, but then you realize how irrelevant they are since language precedes form

>> No.15507737

We can frame it differently:
>There have been over 3000 beliefs about religion so far but only your belief, namely atheism, is the true one.
>The others are silly made up nonsense.
>But not yours.
>Yours is real.
It's just a stupid argument on all accounts, proving nothing.

>> No.15507747

>>15505863
I agree with those, though. No true intellectual is convinced of their own ideas.

>> No.15507751

I guess that you could argue that many of them are different interpretations of the same higher being(s), if there is one.

>> No.15507902

>>15505345
An omnipotent being would be all and none of them, so it literally doesn't matter. The concept of faith and morals attached with a religion is more relevant than the name. You'd have to be a complete moral relativist to logically refute religion like this.

>> No.15507912

>>15505345
Yes, all these civilizations were wrong and you, you budding emperor of England's comedy regime, are absolutely correct. Where did we all go so wrong, king Ricky?

>> No.15507923

>>15505863
the idea that any theist could provide an argument why it is more likely his god exists than another believer´s god that is as sound as the current best explanation of how gravity works is absolutely caved in the head retarded

>> No.15508079

>>15505999
He didn’t, because the best Brit Comedy of all time is the Office. Glad you didn’t say fawlty towers or Monty python though, so maybe you’re right anon. Have a (you)

>> No.15508087

>>15506154
>god has always been portrayed as a person
A very "holy" person, aka, the ideal of the servile masses.

>>15506230
Guess that's why Gervais is a shit comedian.

>> No.15508127

>>15506230
Pretty sure it does

>> No.15508146

>>15507923
I have a friend that lost his mind and went religious and he has definitely explained it to me that for Hindus for example the Christian god is their god too they just have not come realize it yet and that their various “gods” are included in the one true god, father of Christ. He’s also lives with his mom and is the kind of guy that leaves 300 text messages overnight. He’s crazy in other words.

>> No.15508160

>>15506577
JP is smarter than you

>> No.15508169

>>15506585
>t.brainlet

>> No.15508182

>>15507720
>The comparison of God and money in terms of tangibility is weak.


Money is my god. I worship it

>> No.15508191

>>15507737
You didn’t understand the argument, it’s really simple

>> No.15508329

>>15506243
It's not an argument against one, that's for sure.

>> No.15508421

>>15508329
yes it is

>> No.15508434

>>15507720
>The comparison of God and money in terms of tangibility is weak.
>You also compare existence to utility, which is weak
No justification given for both your (wrong btw) claims

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>>15505345
How the fuck would an overweight Brit comedian know anything about (G)god(s)

>> No.15508597

Mine is real thanks ricky

>> No.15508607

>>15505345
As opposed to mainstream morality or mainstream social opinion?

Go back 50 years and they got it wrong.
Go back 100 years and they got it wrong.
Go back 250 years and they got it wrong.
Go back 500 years and they got it wrong.
Go back 1000 years and they got it wrong.
Go back 2000 years and they got it wrong.

But not now. You're in the right period of time to have the truly correct perspective?

>> No.15508699

>>15505345
There is one most high god, and thousands of meme gods, which aren't worthy of being called gods, they should be called demons.
Heh nice try Ricky.

>> No.15509140

>>15505359
This but unironically and with Islam.

>> No.15509146

>>15506656
>without specific character identity.
source?

>> No.15509322

>>15508169
Big brain is JUS BELIEB BRO!

>> No.15509331

>>15508559
same way anyone else does?

>> No.15509340

>>15508191
Then explain

>> No.15509348

>>15509331
Holy Spirit?

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15509361

>yours is real

Yeah He is, Ricky, you hack fraud. Just because your smooth brain finds it improbable does not invalidate the existence of God.

>> No.15509379

>>15509361
>the existence of God
Which one?

>> No.15509398

>>15509379
mine

>> No.15509405

>>15509398
So you're going full on "personal god" mode?

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>>15509405
>So you're going full on "personal god" mode
What does this statement even mean? You think he's going god mode, becoming a god?

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>>15505345
Yes. Start with the Greeks.

>> No.15509470

There's a god, but the religions are all wrong

Spinoza's god is the closest to truth.

>> No.15509491

>>15505345
nope, they have no arguments, unfortunately indoctrinated people like them cant be plugged out of the matrix if they dont want themselves

>> No.15509499

>>15505359
There are nearly 2 billion characters in literature, but somehow the characters in this biography are real???

>> No.15509517

>>15509411
The rabbit ears are important. Personal God in that sense means a god which you have a personal relationship with and is in some sense tailored to you.

>> No.15509543

they don't need to exist. that's not the point

>> No.15509560

>>15509517
ahh okay, so you're changing god to suit your self instead of changing your self to suit god? That's cowardly.

>> No.15509581

>>15505370
>The One that is eternal beyond our understanding and time and space
Praise Cthulhu

>> No.15509584

>>15506630
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superseded_theories_in_science

>> No.15509637

>>15505361
>making stuff up: the post

>> No.15510406

>>15505885
yes

>> No.15510417

>>15505345
atheism is the ultimate midwittery

>> No.15510437

>>15505863

It's Ricky Gervais, what did you expect?

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>>15505345

I have little proof that my god is real but I act as though he is.

>> No.15510569

>>15510417
I would ask you to provide an argument but you don't seem very intelligent and I don't get much pleasure destroying midwits, so I will abstain from educating you.

>> No.15510575

>>15509470
Sure, can you prove that he exists?

>> No.15510592

>>15505345
if he's so smart why does he wear those stupid tight v-necks

>> No.15510604

>>15505370
Are you unironically retard or just pretending?

>> No.15510618

>>15510417
actually religiosity is, unironically

>> No.15510824

>>15505345
This was refuted in another thread of the same shit. Search in the archive.

>> No.15510837

>>15510824
>refuted
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHA

>> No.15510864

>>15510837
Yes.

>> No.15511125

it's good to see literally everyone here figured out the biggest problem known to mankind as far back as we can figure. congrats :D

>> No.15511206

It occurs to me... if there are no gods... YOU are the ultimate being in the universe. wow ( which is more dumb?? )

>> No.15511224

>>15510575
you exist, therefore god exists, god is you.

>> No.15511226

>>15511125
>it's good to see literally everyone here figured out the biggest problem known to mankind

Shit-tier pseud comedians?

>> No.15511239

>>15511226
the real issue since hunter gatherer times has been pudgy goobers making jokes about le feminism and Christians

>> No.15511256

>>15505361
>>15506585
Tru. I could never get behind paganism since there Gods just seem like people but with mire power. They are not metaphysical entities. Though, as archetypes i kinda get if.

>> No.15511272

>>15511239
This. Cave paintings, dating to 6000 BC have been found in Mesoamerica, depicting a fat, stupid man who owes his entire career to the comic brilliance Stephen Merchant. The fat man appears to be cracking cheap jokes about a religion which does not yet exist and an ideology which is thousands of years away.

>> No.15511288

>>15511224
Sounds legit

>> No.15512023

>>15505794
>No, he's saying that your claim is identical to thousands that you agree are fictitious. Therefore yours is also fictitious. To which you respond that yours is different because it's special- just like every one of those other thousands would say about theirs, because it's all the same thing.
So you just don't understand religions and theology, got it.

>> No.15512056

>>15508146
Syncretism has been a thing for a long time, seems to have survived as Perennial Philosphy, which I too am I a subscriber of.
Makes sense that Hindus would be more receptive to the ideas, since their history and religious practices/system are built more around the idea of syncretism than what we have in the west. Not only the Hindus, but eastern theology/philosophy in general, which in its totality seems remarkably free from the division lines between religious indentities. The concept of "religion" as we know it is a western invention, primarily resulting from Christianity. Which we then tried to apply to eastern belief structures, resulting in fake creeds such as "Confucianism" which doesn't exist; because people misunderstood it to be what we understand as a religion.

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>>15505345

The problem is this

You say that there are 3000 Gods

If one person worships a God each and you say to each of them that their God is real, then HOW do you say that to the other 2999 Gods that ARE, INDEED, REAL, according to your logic by which in default, OUR worshipping God out of the 3000 that you mention is the one that is real, but neither of the 2999 Gods in which you would or would NOT later mention to them ARE NOT REAL?

Get your head out of your ass and into the game.

>> No.15512149

I literally don’t understand how a person gets to the place of being so set in their opinion of ATHEISM NO GOD HAH *WINK* BUNCH OV RUBBISH, all this time basically not even considering any other idea of religion than just western/Abrahamic. At least that’s in Ricky Gervais’ case, he’s no idiot but he’s a child in this regard.

>> No.15512225

>>15512071
damn this nigga high as fuck lmao

>> No.15512251

>>15505359
Fpbp

>> No.15512347

>>15509637
Read the Bible.

>> No.15512350

>>15512347
read a science book

>> No.15512562

>>15508329
>>15508421
Thanks lads. Now I know for sure that following the example of Jeebus as closely as possible while being an agnostic is the most reasonable choice.

>> No.15512724

I don’t think you guys know what it is like to hear and feel things. I have lived with this my whole life, and can draw the distinction between what is fake and real. Fake things have no purpose and try to hurt you. Real things call out and instruct you. This real thing is God, and I honestly think that is people that have to deal with the fake and blessed with also being able to feel more of the real. None of you can or really should talk about the true power of this world as a result of this.

>> No.15512728

>>15505345
The Bible covers this. There are other gods, but you must only follow YHWH.

>> No.15512954

>>15510569
What's the atheist argument?

>> No.15513394

>>15505345
Correction: There have been nearly 3000 *understandings* of God so far, but only the Christian one is right.

>> No.15513414

>>15512954
There isn't one. It's just the two sides of the coin "There's no proof there is a god" and "There's no proof there's no God". Atheists have no more logical arguments than the "idiots" they "destroy" with "facts"

>> No.15513424

>>15505764
>He only wants you to acknowledge he exists
Sounds kinda vain and pathetic to me.

>worship meeeeeeeee or you will be tortured for eternity
Yeah, nah, suck my dick spergo.

>> No.15513427

>>15513424
Have fun in hell.

>> No.15513441

>>15513427
I'll have fun experiencing nothing and not existing because the afterlife is a retarded concept that weak people made up to try to cope with the pointlessness of existence, thank you very much

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>>15505359

This but Hinduism

>> No.15513469

>>15513441
> Uuh, actually I- an intellectual- believes what you believe is RETARDED and just a COPE for weak people. May I interest you in r/atheism? Yes, I will just believe something else about what happens after death, with just as little proof. Yes, what I believe is more valid than what you believe. Why? Well- wel well, um, because christians are fucking retards!

>> No.15513470

>>15512724
Pipe down, schizo.

>> No.15513471

>>15505345
>Ricky Dene Gervais is an English comedian
A clown talking theology.
CLOWN WORLD.

>> No.15513480

>>15513469
What you said is actually true, but unironically. Christians are retards and I am much cleverer than them, I'm pretty much a professional when it comes to issues of religion and death. Only weak people follow it, whereas I am strong enough to break free from the path and see with the world. Any fellow anons with me on this? I am awake. You are asleep.

>> No.15513491

>>15513480
Yes anon, I stand with you on this. Non atheists probably will mock us together, however we are stronger than them. I will defeat all the christians. It was nice to talk to a fellow intelligent person, ever since I left university I can't speak to fellow intellectuals- everyone is too focussed on social lives and jobs. I spend my time thinking about deep thoughts like what happens after death and the existence of god (not with a capital G). Good luck in your quest anon!

>> No.15513532

>>15505406
Can we get wishy washy hippie midwits off of this board? Just because you took acid once and went “woah, all the religions are, like, the same. It’s all one thing bro” doesn’t mean that it’s true.

>> No.15513537

>>15505470
>>>/x/

>> No.15513921

>>15505345
Ricky does not understand the concept of God as defined in Christianity and is assuming Christians worship a spirit or ghost for no reason other than they're dumb