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Books about woman being heartless lying manipulators?

>> No.15593174

Shut up incel

>> No.15593180
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>>15593166
Lolita

>> No.15593182

Real intellectuals read books that disagree with their opinions. Sage

>> No.15593189

>>15593166
Madame Bovary, one of my all-time favorites, Flaubert was the great misanthropist

>> No.15593191

east of eden, i suppose

>> No.15593195

>>15593189
>>15593180
Thanks bros.

>> No.15593201

>>15593166

Are they all?

>> No.15593212

>>15593189
This

>> No.15593241

>>15593189
What can you tell me about it without spoilers?

>> No.15593245

>>15593166
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manipulated_Man

>> No.15593253

>>15593166
My Year of Rest and Relaxation by Ottessa Moshfegh

I didn't really care for it, tbqh.

>> No.15593353

>>15593166
Who are these?

>> No.15593428

>>15593353
Constantine IX Monomachos and his favorite twink.

>> No.15593447

>>15593166
So, fiction?

>> No.15593559

>>15593253
I need to finish that one, desu. It's comfy in a sort of watching a depressed (bourgeoisie) woman way.

Anybody here read Thérèse Racquin by Émile Zola? I'm halfway through but that seems to fit OP's request.

>> No.15593562

>>15593166
Dom Casmurro

>> No.15593566

>>15593166
Dom Casmurro

>> No.15593616

>>15593166
>Dom Casmurro

>> No.15593637

A couple short stories from Men Without Women

>> No.15593902

>>15593559
Love the cat motif in that one; Nana would work as well. Max Beerbohm's Zuleika Dobson for a Rabelaisian take on the theme..

>> No.15593952

>>15593174
toasty roastie

>> No.15593975

That one book

>> No.15593987

>>15593637
Hemingway or Murakami?

>> No.15594013

>>15593189
>Madame Bovary
Which English translation should I read?

>> No.15594725

>>15593180
Based.

>> No.15594793

>>15593180
Humbert is the liar.
You best be memeing

>> No.15594800

>>15593166
The Sun Also Rises

>> No.15594801

>>15593166
Unironically the Bible KEK

>> No.15594868
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All the pretty horses

>> No.15594889

>>15593166

The Three Musketeers, by Alexandre Dumas.

>> No.15594925

>>15593166
Edith Wharton -- Custom of the Country

>> No.15595122

>>15594793
>the narrator is unreliable, thus another character is not lying
how many non-sequiturs rule your brain per day, butts? gimme a ballpark number here

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>>15593166
My diary desu

>> No.15596108

>>15594013
The Francis Steegmuller translation. It's a work of art in itself.

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>>15596090

>> No.15596283

>>15596090
Beat me to it

>> No.15596294

>>15593166
Venus in furs, just finished and highly recommend

>> No.15596301

>>15593241
Emma is chronically unsatisfied no matter the kind of man she's with; she's entirely self-centered with little to no regard to her child and none at all to her loving husband, who puts her in a pedestal and is a rather simple and naive man who thinks is living in a happy marriage. There's only one instance in which Emma starts liking him and it ends fast. At the same time, it's not like she lives a happy life herself; she really shouldn't have married Charles.

>> No.15596369

>>15593166
That's not a woman in that picture

>> No.15596673

>any books that will support my belief that I base on my already existing hatred towards women because I believe that they owe me sex, even though I'm a huge piece of shit

>> No.15596718

>>15596673
That's quite a lot to impute onto one short sentence, don't you think?

>> No.15596728

>>15596369
>Greeks
Everytime

>> No.15596735

>>15593166
The book of Genesis

>> No.15596743

>>15594793
Lmfao, this is the woman's take. Of course butterfly would have this take.

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trust me on this one
multiple pills served in this title
this title can almost cause a bit of unease, as you will def see some of yourself in joji

>> No.15597165

>>15596718
We're on 4chan, it's implied, especially thanks to the wording of it.

>> No.15597196

>>15596369
That’s the point, men are better at being a woman than woman.

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>>15596743

>> No.15597489

>>15596673
>we don't owe you
Goes both ways then. The ho so big bad incels/chads/whatever don't owe women any sort of consideration or positive affection either.

>> No.15597514

>>15593166
just go outside

>> No.15597559

Honestly, if woman didn’t have a hole I wouldn’t even attempt to give them a above average value level to that of a stinky man.

>> No.15597574

>>15593189
Thinking of Emma only negatively is naïve. What makes her such a powerful character, and Flaubert such a great novelist, is that even though she's insufferable we can all relate to her escapism on a very fundamental level.

>> No.15597596

>>15597574
>she's insufferable we can all relate
Apparently we ALL can't, at least that anon couldn't. Stop projecting your subjective experience on everyone, thank you very much, you snobbish cunt

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>>15597574
>we can all relate to her escapism on a very fundamental level.
Besides, 'relating' is the lowest form of use of characters. Flaubert is good but not because of this.

>> No.15597827

>>15593245
This is the best recommendation so far. Non-fiction, written by a self-aware woman, has made generations of feminists angry because they couldn't refute it.

>> No.15597848

of human bondage

>> No.15597905

>>15597489
Nobody expects you to lick their boots, the point is not to be a dick, especially by generalizing an entire gender by your terrible experience caused by your terrible personality.

>> No.15597913

>>15597905
>Nobody expects you to lick their boots
they literally do though

>> No.15598030

This is a bad path to go down, anon. I'm not sure that you'll be willing to fuck another man in the ass to ultimately prove your position.

>> No.15598038

>>15597489
I've always found it absurd how females like to use this argument that 'nobody owes you anything' whenever a guy dares to complain about his need for companionship and the loneliness that comes with it.

Think about it: here we have a person who expects you to approach her, to make the first move, to be respectful and entertaining, to pay for the dates, while all she does is say 'yes' or 'no' at each step of the interaction, judging your performance based on the unrealistic standards she got from tv and movies. She thinks guys owe all this to her, just because she's a female.

Guys, on the other hand, never expect females to do anything or to put any effort into the courting process. And yet it's always females who accuse guys of feeling like the world owes them something...

Isn't this just absurd?

>> No.15598046

>>15593166
books about unself aware men?

>> No.15598305

>>15597913
And that's the (mentality) problem with (most of) 4chan's community. You are looking at the worst examples of humanity, examples you see on the internet. People aren't really like that, they often don't care. Sure, there are and always will be pieces of shit, but you're seeing only that.

>> No.15598422

>>15593166
Read Roman history

>> No.15598955

>>15594793
Nabokov is the liar

>> No.15598972

>>15596108
How the hell do you even translate something like Madame Bovary? Seems self evidently impossible.

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>>15596108
>>15594013
Adam Thorpe or Steegmuller

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>>15593428
Can you boy-fuckers fuck off from the Middle Ages and stick to the antiquity? The Middle Ages was the period were boy-fucking was BTFO’d off Europe, being replaced by teenage-girl fucking. People also stopped acting like obnoxious bears. You scum aren’t welcome in medieval-studies, it isn’t your era. Seriously, fuck off we don’t you.

Please stop dirtying my favourite time period with your disgusting bullshit, thank god medieval people were not degenerates like you.

I got nothing against homos, but boy-fuckers aren’t even human and shouldn’t be treated as such.

>> No.15599365

>>15598422
>mfw Tacitus again
>every woman even close to power is manipulating men around them (including becoming their mistresses) to assassinate everyone so their sons get the throne or a higher position
>even Augustus falls for Livia that massacres his three sons/grandsons while giving him zero and elevates her own from her previous marriage while sleeping with randoms
>even fucking Augustus, founder of the Roman Empire, was my-wifes-son turbo cucked
Is there just no limit to whoredom? You can make a woman literal empress over half the world and she just cucks you like that.

>> No.15599373

>>15593166
My diary desu.

>> No.15599404

>>15599262
>>I got nothing against homos, but boy-fuckers aren’t even human and shouldn’t be treated as such.
The opposite desu, Greeks had it right.
Homosex is tolerable provided one of the guys is between 12 and 16. Sex between adult men gets you the rope.
Read Straton of Sardis.

>> No.15599426

>>15599404
Nah, they are just massive pussies that went for the easy option. If you are gay then you should take it up the arse like a man.

>> No.15599439

>>15599426
>should take it up the arse
>like a man
This is what happens when you don't start with the Greeks.

>> No.15599441

KEK some anons deserve the Greeks and nothing else.

>> No.15599466

>>15599439
The Geeks were massive nerds with massive self-esteem issues, the utter overcompensation in Spartan culture, their hyper-masculinity and the obsession with small penises is a testament to this - their opinion is really not worth hearing.

Either you are man enough to deal with women, or you are man enough to take it up the arse - no compromises

>> No.15599476

>>15593166
Are there any books specifically about dealing with a self-destructive BPD woman who is both a shitty person yet still sweet and captivating? Asking for a friend

>> No.15599496

>>15599476
https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Solid-Waste-Management-Kreith/dp/0071356231/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=waste+management&qid=1592080681&s=books&sr=1-1

>>15599466
You can't handle their test levels. You admit they are hyper-masculine.

>> No.15599530

>>15599476
taming of the shrew

>> No.15599539

>>15599496
>You can't handle their test levels. You admit they are hyper-masculine.
People who are hyper-masculine are hyper-masculine because they like to hide their insecurities, 9/10 they are closet transsexuals

>> No.15599553

>>15599539
Spoken like a true cuck unable to conceive someone just spontaneously being as manly as a Greek BVLL.

>> No.15599560

>>15599553
Ok, small peepee

>> No.15599565

>>15593166
OP's bitch ass, self deprecating incel diary

>> No.15599599

>>15599560
>mentions dick size
>tries to shame opposition with small dick size
I'm sure it's us compensating.

>> No.15599658

>>15599599
I have a smaller-average dick, I don’t tried to compensate for it.
Ok, small peepee

>> No.15599665

Quit the offtopic banter, you are ruining the thread.

>> No.15599672

>>15599665
Ok, but the fact that he said
>us
Has me slightly worried that he is unironically sexually abusing minors.

>> No.15600642

>>15593166
Alraune, Hamlet, Infinite Jest.

>> No.15600650

>>15596090
Got an epub of it?

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Just read this one, there are many stories in it about this subject.

>> No.15601458

>>15593166
Romeo & Juliet