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Evola on american women:
>American women are characteristically frigid and materialistic. The man who 'has his way' with an American girl is under a material obligation to her. The woman has granted
a material favour. In cases of divorce American law overwhelmingly favours the woman. American women will divorce readily enough when they see a better bargain. It is frequently the case in America that a woman will be married to one man but already 'engaged' to a future husband, the man she plans to marry after a profitable divorce.

>> No.15760687

>>15760675
Why doesn’t everyone get a prenup when they marry? Never understood this

>> No.15760690

>>15760687
you don't think the courts actually give a fuck about that lol

>> No.15760695

>>15760690
Idk I thought so.

>> No.15760696

>>15760675
What's that passage from

>> No.15760700

>>15760687
The smart ones do. The ones who get rich 2 decades into their career don't have the foresight tho

>> No.15760703

>>15760675
america is a portal to hell

>> No.15760730

This thread is pure yikes

>> No.15760740

>Clothes are optional, rape is not
So rape is mandatory?

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>le women bad

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>> No.15760755
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>>15760730
Why do you say that?

>> No.15760760

>>15760675
>>15759950
>r*ddit trying to greentext their favorite quotes on goodreads

>> No.15760761

>>15760675
this is literally European women though lmao, Evola musta gotten rejected by a hottie

>> No.15760766

>>15760690
it's more of a filter test
if she won't agree to one, you know to drop her for sure

>> No.15760767

Evola on bombing raids, probably:
>Bombs are characteristically loud and explosive. The bomb that 'falls' near me is my destiny to me. The bomb has granted a material favour, in that it exploded near me and made me feel alive and esoteric. In cases of bombings, bunkers overwhelmingly favour those who hide in them. Bombs will explode readily enough when they see me walking around. Is it frequently the case in Italy that a bomb will kill many men, but only those are already 'walking' during a bombing raid. The bombs are already 'engaged' to other victims, the men it plans to kill after exploding near me.

>> No.15760774

>>15760742
>le whiteknight defender

>> No.15760777

>mr monocle said

>> No.15760787

>>15760687
Asking a woman for a prenup is like taking her on a picnic and explaining to her that you'd like to bring your gun with you in case she loses her mind halfway through and tries to kill you. No amount of "it's just a precaution, I'm not saying I think you would actually do that" is going to smooth things over, even if she pretends she's not angry and insulted. If you feel like you need a prenup, then you shouldn't marry her. What's she going to do? Leave you? That's what you were prenup was for in the first place. Granted, the average women is not worth marrying and the average person, man or woman, isn't intelligent or observant enough to know when they're walking into a bad marriage.

>> No.15760798

>>15760774
>le false dichotomy
try having sex

>> No.15760812

>>15760787
This. Why marry someone you already suspect in evildoing?

>> No.15760814

>>15760798
Cringe

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>>15760675
Imagine unironically getting married. Why on Earth would you allow yourself to willingly enter into a contract that you know is likely to ruin you in the long run? Why bring the government into it at all? Just have a live-in girlfriend and keep it at that.

>> No.15760830

Are there any women who aren't ultimately frigid and materialistic? All realtionships end up with them withholding sex and bargaining for materials gains.

>> No.15760836

>>15760767
kek

>> No.15760841

>>15760812
this kind of thinking is why people lose everything in a divorce. can you really think of no situations where a divorce might be a good idea? here's some that might put a wedge in the relationship:
>youre infertile
>shes infertile
>one of you changed your mind about wanting/not wanting kids
>youve grown apart
>one of you suffers brain damage and either has a personality change or is permanently handicapped
there are many reasons for divorce outside of, "well she cheated."
dont be so naive

>> No.15760843

>>15760755
that's the eggman dude from /r9k/, someone set up a tinder with his pics

>> No.15760851

>>15760675
i enjoy the irony of these proud sluts still covering their juicy bits with the signs

>> No.15760859

>>15760830
>wants to poke his dick in someone
>gets surprised when they don't like it or use it for their benefit

>> No.15760867

>hate women
>hate the gays
What do you guys want?

>> No.15760874

>>15760830
>babyy if you don't buy me a new car i wont fuck you haha
oh my god dude stop watching tv, you've convinced yourself that the histrionic, superficial, materialist normie existence is the only one on earth and i can guarantee that it isn't

in the same way not every boy is a "oh GOD dude i just gotta fuckin put PENIs in VAGINA" not every girl is a bratty valley girl who just wants a sugar daddy.

stop looking at everything through the filter of puberty.

t. not a high schooler

>> No.15760895

>>15760867
They want to have sex but can't, so they cry at everyone else who can.

>> No.15760900

>>15760841
You shouldn't marry someone who you wouldn't be comfortable riding through tragedy with, and if a woman you've married has any interest in gutting you in court because you "grew apart," again, you shouldn't have married them in the first place. You've got a case with the brain damage scenario, but you have to ask yourself if getting insurance against a hypothetical, personality-altering brain injury is tanking the damage done by demanding a prenup, right out of the gate before you're even offical. If you think a woman won't be hurt by that then you're naive. Again, the catch here loops back to the fact that most women aren't worth it and most men don't have the sense to marry right.

>> No.15760909

>>15760900
this is just ridiculous though, marriage was never like this throughout human history, and clearly trying to make it this way doesn't work

>> No.15760915

>>15760787
if she leaves you over something as harmless as a prenup the was always going to find something even dumber to leave you over later
You get married for love, but if she wants me to sign a legally binding document she's making it political.

>> No.15760921

>>15760909
Centuries before divorces were far less popular/allowed.

>> No.15760936

>>15760915
If you already consider divorce and make her sign documents related to that divorce, then it's clear that no love is present.

>> No.15760939

>>15760829
you can have a church wedding and commit to someone in the eyes of god without signing a state document

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>>15760675
Are American women so frigid because they have to get fucked by unlubricated ridged band-less circumcised dicks?

>> No.15760952

Evola was just an incel loser

>> No.15760965

>>15760900
so all i got out of that was that youre either a khv loser incel who hates women because he doesnt understand them and therefore wishes to minimize them into digestible caricatures, or you date women who exclusively manipulate and abuse you that you believe weaponized guilt is a valid form of communication.

normal women, women who are intelligent and stable adults, are not as naive as you. the things i listed are things they too would understand. we no longer live in a world where only the man can become rich. your understanding of the situation is proof that you lack the experience to make any such conclusions.

>> No.15760969

>>15760936
all things are possible by the will of our Lord

>> No.15760980

>>15760965
If you are rich/important enough and marrying you is beneficial even with all the prenups, then go on.

>> No.15760995

>>15760690
Make it a condition to take the case to arbitration and not a court.

>> No.15761000

>>15760995
>the case is taken to the court anyway

>> No.15761012

>>15760675
Fucking based

>> No.15761038

>"Sorry babe, it's in my father's will that we don't inherit the multimillion dollar trust unless i marry with a prenup"
>This was a clever lie he told her, and he knew that her parents were richer than his.

>> No.15761051

>>>/r9k/

>> No.15761079

>>15760696
https://juliusevola.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/24-american-civilisation.pdf

>> No.15761091

>>15760755
95% of western women have herpes and sexual diseases

>> No.15761114

your opinion of women is most likely based on the women in your life. if you attract awful women into your life, well, that says a lot about you and very little about women.

>> No.15761146

>>15761114
>le "woman can never do any wrong everything is a mans fault"
female hands typed this

>> No.15761163

>>15760915
>you get married for love
> if she wants me to sign a legally binding document she's making it political.
Ideally yes, but in reality they aren't thinking about it as political. To the average person, marriage is just the final stage of commitment. It's demonstrating that you are confident in your love and want to take things as far as possible.

>>15760965
>so all I got...
As much as you clearly enjoy rushing to dramatic judgement, I don't really have an interest in "no u"ing back and forth about personal lives that can't be verified either way.
>normal women, women who are intelligent and stable adults, are not as naive as you.
Women can be intelligent, but they usually not very stable at all. Stability is part of what they seek out in men to complete themselves.
>we no longer live in a world where only the man can become rich.
That's right. But in the event the woman becomes rich she almost invariably leaves the man for another man who's richer than her. Women don't want to be richer than their husbands. What are you suggesting? You are not being clear.

>>15760980
I agree with this, but only because people with extreme wealth tend to live in a way that wealth is at the center of their lives.

>> No.15761169

>>15760675
Based. He forgot to say fat.

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>>15760675
Who would be brave enough to rape them?

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>>15760895
>muh dick
Or maybe some men recognize that sex for it's own sake creates more problems than it actually solves.

>> No.15761203

>>15760675
why not

>> No.15761212

>>15761163
>It's demonstrating that you are confident in your love
Which is why i'll get church married to someone i love and commit to them only for life, no problem. But if she also wants a legally binding civil union, then there must be recognized terms for the possible dissolution of that union.
And if she doesn't trust me to commit to her fully without the threat of legal repercussion, then why should i trust her to commit to me fully and not screw me with the law later?

>> No.15761217

>>15761146
>female hands typed this
wrong.
look at your own friends. what does that say about you?

>> No.15761236

>>15760687
Because they get thrown out all the time

>> No.15761265

>>15761212
>Which is why i'll get church married to someone i love and commit to them only for life, no problem.
I agree that this is ideal.

>> No.15761335

>>15760829
Tax efficiency

>> No.15761472

>implying honest-to-goodness Marriage is legal in the United States
Top kek, as they say.

>> No.15761498

>>15760829
>Just have a live-in girlfriend
Where I live they changed the law so that de facto relationships, which is a live in girlfiend for 12 months, has all the rights and entitlements of a formal marriage. They're are similar laws throughout the West to expand the rights of de facto marriages to encompass most of the rights and entitlements of formal marriage.

>> No.15761601

>>15760909
>Marriage was never like this throughout human history
You're right. Historically, marriage consisted of two people who grew up relatively near each other who either decided to get married or were in an arranged marriage via their parents. They were legally and contractually obligated to stay together until they literally died. Even needing a prenup was ridiculous because to actually get divorced you'd need to prove that they committed adultery or committed some other crime literally so heinous that it justified breaking serious legal bonds. If you said "I want an agreement that protects me from my wife trying to steal all my money in a divorce" you'd be laughed out of the fucking room because she wouldn't have been able to get divorced unless you were actually indescribably awful to her or general society.

>> No.15761695

>>15761079
this legit gave me depression - the fact that i moved here at young age, and that my homeland is being americanized to its extreme. truly, no home to go back to.

>> No.15761858

>>15761051
>>>/ovens/

>> No.15761861

>>15760814
He's right tho

>> No.15762065

>>15760687
Entering into a marriage with the expectation of divorce makes marriage pointless altogether.

>> No.15762068

>>15760675
>Evola on american women:
>>American women are characteristically frigid and materialistic. The man who 'has his way' with an American girl is under a material obligation to her. The woman has granted
>a material favour. In cases of divorce American
>law overwhelmingly favours the woman. American women will divorce readily enough when they see a better bargain. It is frequently the case in America that a woman will be married to one man but already 'engaged' to a future husband, the man she plans to marry after a profitable divorce.
Are those girls from Sarah Lawrence College? It's my dream to go there.

>> No.15762081

>>15761498
Could you say where?

>> No.15762088

>>15760675
I like how the fat chick wears more

>> No.15762098

>>15760787
Good metephor and a valid point, but that doesnt mean a prenup is not a good idea. If a woman is insulted by a prenup its equally a bad sign.
People change, and sometimes quite dramatically. While the dream is to grow old together, theres still the random case that some evolve psychopathic. A prenup can protect a woman as much as a man.

>> No.15762110

>>15760867
20yo asian prostitutes

>> No.15762137

>>15760675
He's right. American women often come to my university to study, for some ungodly reason because my country is something most Americans (because America is a Soviet country now whether they accept it or not) view as the Fourth Reich or something. Anyway, they are incredibly rude, self-righteous, they have little to no self-control, they're highly opinionated and violent in how they use rhetoric. I don't know how the fuck people in America even function when over half their society seems to behave like Cult members.

>> No.15762143

>>15762137
What country are you from

>> No.15762146

>>15762143
Poland. Most Americans I've spoken with believe we are a Totalitarian Fascist country. Most americans I've met are also socialists or openly Marxist. Again, I have no idea how that country hasn't fallen apart yet I suppose it's in the process though.

>> No.15762167

>>15762137
It's intertia + USD world reserve status + a small number of functional white men (and "white-adjacent" men) that keep things going. It's hilariously dysfunctional.

Also, if Americans are studying in Poland, we're obviously not sending our best. I don't mean that in an insulting way, but why would you study in Poland as an American?

>> No.15762182

>>15762167
Ironically the ones I've spoken with said they were tired of how politically intense everything was in the US and how Poland feels "more natural". And then they try to tell me in the same night that we're a little "too Polish" and that it creeps them out. I don't understand it whatsoever. Like I said, "most Americans" I met were like this but I have also met a handful that were really great guys and came here to study because they wanted a new life. Seeing the situation in America, I won't be surprised if more start doing something similar. One American told me that Poland in 2018 (a couple years back) seemed to be something similar to America in the late 50s. I'm not an expert in that field so I'm not sure if it's a compliment or not, but that guy in particular was a decent fellow. He learned Polish too which was impressive. I think he lives here now and works, haven't kept up contact.

Anyway most of the others are here because "LE EPIC TRAVELS!!!" meme and usually the women think they're some kind of missionaires and that we Poles need to hear their sacred wisdom about their bullshit ideology.

>> No.15762230

>>15762065
so you should also go on long hikes in the desert without bringing extra water because don't expect to get lost?

>> No.15762240

>>15762146
Sorry you had to experiemce so many retarded americans, but were not all like that. The majority of us are not. That same majority also doesnt travel.

>> No.15762248

>>15762230
Really bad analogy. A hike is temporary in essence. The whole point of marriage is remaining together until death. If you plan on splitting up then its just dating. If you enter into marriage thinking it will end in divorce then dont get married. Whats the point?

>> No.15762267

>>15762230
Is this the best analogy you can come up with?

>> No.15762281

>>15762065
Hedging your bets does not equal a genuine anticipation, much less hope, of a bad outcome. It’s just being prudent. Every mature adult should recognize how much is liable to change over the course of years and decades, and that there’s a possibility that those changes won’t have positive outcomes on a relationship.

>> No.15762396

>>15760787
This is exactly why you need to make prenup the standard of all marriage contracts

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>>15760742

>> No.15762503

>>15760742
They are though

>> No.15762507

>>15760675
Is that the girl that beat James Holzhauer?

>> No.15762691

>>15760687
to marry is a sign of degeneracy.

>> No.15762705

>>15760767
Lol'd

>> No.15762714

>>15760812
Because people change over 20 years, it means in that moment she's willing to trust you and stay with you even if she regrets it after.

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>>15761190
God.

>> No.15762741

word love almost forgotten.

>> No.15762974

bump

>> No.15762991

>>15760747
>the autistic varieties of libido
wtf

>> No.15762993

>>15760675
i'd be quite happy if the redhead wanted to be a slut near me

>> No.15763009

>>15760747
>Dark Age (Kali Yuga) is the awakening and ultimate dominance of Kali
i thought in Sanskrit Kali the goddess, and Kali in Kali Yuga, were spelled different and were different unrelated words?

Kali Yuga: कलियुग
Kali: काली

as in the vowels are long rather than short

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>>15760747
>>15763009
yes, so Evola is wrong here, there's a male demon called also Kali, but it's male and unrelated to goddess, it's spelled in a different way

>> No.15763020

>>15760761
he had sex magic with some witch, forgot the name but she wrote a book about it, have to get it some time

>> No.15763024

>>15760767
lmao, did you write this or is it pasta?

>> No.15763027

>>15760830
just make her horny lmao

>> No.15763041

I don't understand how anything can defend marriage as an institution.
I see often women arguing that if you don't marry them then you don't love them, how about not marrying as a sign of trust, that the relationship isn't founded on legal bindings but only mutual agreement with no financial coercion involved?
god I hate whoever came up with marriage

>> No.15763047

>>15763041
le retarded individualist

>> No.15763058

>>15760767
Kek

>> No.15763065

>>15760767
The getting bombed on a stroll thing is a myth

>> No.15763070

>>15760830
>Are there any women who aren't ultimately frigid and materialistic?
loli.

>> No.15763076

Marriage is a dead institution. Family is a dead institution. All elements of the ancient regime are removed from their traditional purpose. This includes things as far reaching as language.

>> No.15763077

>>15763047
nothing individualist about it, if your bonds are built around material constraints then they're just as thin as the paper that seals it all.

>> No.15763082

>>15763077
>>15763041
This was Marx's criticism of the bourgeois marriage, and by extension modern marriage as well.
but to escape this "material constraint" you'll have to usher in a classless society where material wealth is no longer a factor in people choosing their partners, basically communism.
and that's just a pipe dream

>> No.15763092

>>15763082
is communism the final chad ideology? you can't even make up for your physical/genetic lacks with wealth and possessions, you're doomed to inceldom for the rest of your existence

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>>15761498
where do you live fren

>> No.15763118

>>15763020
what did she say? Did his tantric yoga fuck elevate her yoni to the cosmic consciousness?

>> No.15763127

>>15763076
yes give in like a dumb sheep, become the animal that serves the masters who understand divine law

>> No.15763189

>>15760675
Right is sexy as fuck

>> No.15763199

>>15760921
oh i wonder why they were less popular in past centuries...

>> No.15763225

>>15760915
First paragraph based
Second paragraph cringe

>> No.15763415

>>15760675
are we pretending this isn't true for european and asian women as well?

>> No.15763419

>>15763415
american provinces you mean?

>> No.15763468

>>15763419
it's not really america's fault that those countries have such a weak culture that can so easily allow them be subverted.

>> No.15763473

>>15760687
See it from a woman's perspective.
The legal contract is ostensibly for her protection. She gives up her ability to earn money (through a career or sliding her young, unworn vagina up and down another man's cock) to produce and raise a family.
It's a huge risk and if a man ends up not meeting his end of the bargain, she's up shit creek. No money, maybe a few kids, probably too old and busted to attract another man who will invest significant resources into her.
If the man who put her in that position doesn't pay for her, then we pay via taxes (which I'd rather not do).

>> No.15763482

>>15763468
they got invaded and colonized

>> No.15763491

>>15762991
Nigga look at today's conception of sexuality and tell me it isn't peak autism

>> No.15763498

>>15763482
the balkans were enslaved for 5 centuries and still managed to come out with their language and religion.

>> No.15763508

>>15763024
I wrote it. I haven't seen many good Evola pastas

>> No.15763517

>>15763065
Source? I'm not doubting your claims, anon, I've just heard the 'pondering his destiny while bombs fell' thing everywhere in relation to him

>> No.15763532

>>15763517
there was some letters between him and Guenon saying it didn't happen, he just got nuked while he was doing research for the SS in some office

>> No.15763536

>>15763498
and they are an american province now too

>> No.15763538

/lit/ - Literature

>> No.15763550

>>15763538
women are an important literary theme though

>> No.15763660

>>15760742
They aren't. They could be better, which is the opposite case as of now.

>> No.15763717

>>15762098
Can the prenup be sneaked in?

>> No.15763829

>>15762182
>Ironically the ones I've spoken with said they were tired of how politically intense everything was in the US and how Poland feels "more natural". And then they try to tell me in the same night that we're a little "too Polish" and that it creeps them out. I don't understand it whatsoever. Like I said, "most Americans" I met were like this but I have also met a handful that were really great guys and came here to study because they wanted a new life. Seeing the situation in America, I won't be surprised if more start doing something similar.
This is why I warn Eastern Euros about Americans. When the ship goes under,, you MUST NOT allow us as refugees. No matter what, it is imperative that you do this. I know the US took some Polish refugees from Communism, but it's not the same situation. If you take American refugees their kids will start agitating for leftism. Then you'll have all the problems we do.

>the women think they're some kind of missionaires and that we Poles need to hear their sacred wisdom about their bullshit ideology.
Heh, nothing has changed in centuries.

>> No.15763834

>>15763041
Marriage isn't capitalist enough, under a proper marriage, the ownership of a woman is transferred from her father to her husband.