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What does /lit/ thinks about Jack Kerouac? Obviously, the grandfather of hipster girls and hipster boys...

>> No.1577318

I liked him when I was 14.
read some recently and it made me cringe.
Big sur wasn't awful.

thats about it really

>> No.1577328

I don't like Kerouac in fact I hate him but for fuck's sakes let's at least admit the Beats were a movement and expressed something.
Hipsters wear funny, sometimes anachronistic, clothes. That's it.

>> No.1577333

beats were overrated. If we've learnt one thing from the 50/60's counter culture its that "movements2 were overrated.
Talking loud and saying nothing

>> No.1577338

>>1577328
Amen. Modern hipsters are devoid of any real attachment to anything. They have only cold irony, and when you peel that away, you realize it's just a bunch of crassly commercial fads.

>> No.1577341

I can see the beats being a bit like the hipsters in that they felt superior to everyone else and shunned people who didn't speak or think like them. But at least they had a point of view and talent. However, I sometimes find them a bit naive and oblivious, hanging out with criminals and lowlifes and romanticizing their way of life.

Kerouac's a good writer, though. I like him. His technique sometimes makes his books drag a bit or appear aimless but then he'll hit you with a piece of writing so good and flowing that you can't help but think of him as a genius.

>> No.1577349

>>1577338
Beats only seem like they had some sort of authenticity because we look back at them with rose-tinted glasses. They were as superficial as whatever fad is predominant today.

EG. keroac talks empathy, zen, the joy of life. IRL he was an alchoholic drop out, anti-semite homophobe (who sucked allen ginsbergs dick).

>> No.1577353

>>1577341
What is Jack Kerouac best work?

>> No.1577354

Kerouac wouldn't have liked hipsters.
He didn't like beatniks.

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1577362

I was really into "the beats" when I was younger. The only one I really view as having much value now is burroughs. I liked his early aautobigraphical work and naked lunch. The cut-ups were rubbish but the books he put out in the 80's were really good. I don't really consider them great writers per se.
If you're interested in rading on the road etc you should read bolanos savage detectives instead

not meaning to sound ike a troll or a prick

>> No.1577380

I read On The Road and wasn't impressed. It felt amateurish, repetitive, choppy, and pointless. That's not saying there weren't good parts - there were a few, but they were too far and few between.

Really, there's only so many times he can call Dean mad or describe a jazz show before I get irritated.

>> No.1577407

>>1577362
I agree with this anon about Burroughs and about reading Roberto Bolano. As far as Kerouac is concerned, I enjoyed On The Road. The book is not one of my favourites but I love Dean Moriarty as a character. It's not often that I can imagine a character with such clarity, and I think that is worthwhile.

>> No.1577421

>>1577341

>Kerouac's a good writer, though. I like him. His technique sometimes makes his books drag a bit or appear aimless but then he'll hit you with a piece of writing so good and flowing that you can't help but think of him as a genius.

Nailed it.

>> No.1577423

inb4he doesn't write, he types

>> No.1577436

>calling him dean
>not neal

So, what, did you all read the casual version?

>> No.1577456

>>1577436

Oh shut the fuck up. You are not better than us.

>> No.1577460

>>1577456
Yes I am
Have you ever stabbed a hooker and threw her across the canadian border?

>> No.1577478

>>1577460

Which direction?

>> No.1577491

>>1577478
Er, towards the US.
...
;_;

>> No.1577500

>>1577491

Ah, ok. I only throw dead hookers into Canada.
I'm like a cat. I won't shit near where I eat.