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Leftypol, post ITT all the charts about communism and left ideologies you have

>> No.15816024

>>>/pol/

>> No.15816034
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>>15816010

>> No.15816037

>>15816010
Fool, you forgot to set the trap!

*rightoids are all just poorfags with Napoleon complexes larping to cope with their mediocrity*

Ok now we can proceed with the thread.

>> No.15816047

>>15816037
epic joke r*ddit

>> No.15816053

>>15816047
First catch of the day!

>> No.15816060

>>15816034
Idgaf about that, it's pop left, not real left

>> No.15816087

Read towards a new socialism by paul cockshott.

>> No.15816120

>>15816060
>real left
lol like you armchair fucks are going to be able to do anything once they've labeled your economic theories potentially problematic because they harm Black Trans CEOs

>> No.15816256

>>15816060
I think all there is is pop left and larping leftists these days. If you read marxist literature and then listen to the people who claim to be the real marxists, you just get a very strong feeling they are roleplaying and it isn't genuine at all. but if you have browsed this board you should know to read all the big marxists names

>> No.15816313

>>15816256
I dare you to give me an argument that proves Marxism is a larp but that any other ideologies aren’t.

>> No.15816327

>>15816313
Everything but centre left or right atm is larping. Could change though

>> No.15816328

What a fucking disaster
Read Baudrillard or Zizek or just fucking breadtube
one mustn't really think particularly hard to understand the profound failures of capitalism

>> No.15816332

>>15816060
pop left is the only relevant left today

>> No.15816342
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>favorite book
Ethics by Spinoza
>favorite album
MBDTF or 100 gecs
>MBTI
INFJ-T

>> No.15816343

I'm reading Capital. About 180 pages in. It's good so far. What Karl should I go to after this? I'm interested in him talking about philosophy so I was thinking German Ideology but open to anon's guidance.

>> No.15816349

>>15816256
>>15816120
How do we reunite economic analysis with thymiotic-revolutionary pathos once agains bros? How do we overcome emasculating climate of todays left with its multitude of victimizing positions?

>> No.15816426

>>15816349
Masculate yourself. Buy kettlebells and a pullup bar. Be a vitalist-marxist.

>> No.15816531

>>15816426
I actually lift and read marxism, but we also need collective mobilization. Lifting today mostly works as an individualistic coping

>> No.15816554

>>15816349
You can't. If the Liberals thought you could they would not allow you to exist.

>> No.15816562

>>15816327
>NPC non-politics is not a larp

>> No.15816581

Just post a fucking chart at least

>> No.15816586

>>15816531
It seems like the current fetishization of victimhood goes along with victimhood having social credit. Since shitting on victims isn't the way, I don't really know what can be done about that other than demonstrating a possible vitalist-marxist synthesis in action, which, I would hope, would be far more seductive than victim-marxist synthesis because it would actually have more power leverage in itself. Who wants to be weak? If gym bros are associated with totalitarian thought, that is because the gym is territory that leftists have, for whatever reason, ignored or just ceded. I dont get why.

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>>15816349
>>15816426
>>15816531
>>15816586

>> No.15816622

>>15816586
>victimhood having social credit. Since shitting on victims isn't the way,
You know you don't have to do either, right? You could just treat them like human beings in stead of children that you have to cater to. You could just say "Well that sucks, Man" without giving them special privileges that they then use for personal gain and to abuse other people.

>> No.15816631

>>15816608
Actually sounds pretty relevant anon. I will czech it out.

>> No.15816646

>>15816622
Victims have social currency right now beyond my own involvement. It's not "my" decision to make it that way. But I thank you for assuming I'm in a position of immense power over these social moments, it's quite flattering

>> No.15816648

>>15816622
I think his point is that current socio-political system rewards victimization. Reactivity and passive affects are of use to the system, because it redirects anger from it and preserves status quo. I think vitalistic-marxism should strive to reevaluate current morality.

>> No.15816662

>>15816646
Your a Narcissist and have completely ignored my point.

>> No.15816707

>>15816608
whats it about?

>> No.15816759

>>15816662
When you use the second person, don't be surprised when the first person answers. One should speak universally if that's what one is discussing.

>> No.15816955

>>15816759
Pedantic masturbation

>> No.15816972

>>15816707
Prussian socialism, a highly militaristic and meritocratic form of "socialism" (corporatism) conceived by Spengler. He accused Marxism of following the British tradition in which the poor envy the rich, and claimed that Marxism sought to train the proletariat to "expropriate the expropriator", the capitalist, so that the proletariat could live a life of leisure on this expropriation, concluding that "Marxism is the capitalism of the working class" and not true socialism.
"Socialism means ability, not desire. Not the quality of intentions but the quality of accomplishments is decisive. I turn to our youth. I call upon all who have marrow in their bones and blood in their veins. Train yourselves! Become men!"

>> No.15816982

>>15816955
Masturbation happens alone, but you're still here, seething.

>> No.15816995

>>15816972
sounds based

>> No.15817012

>>15816982
Your first response was made solely for your own entertainment. It was masturbatory. Masturbating on a stranger is still masturbating. We did not fuck you simply jizzed on my jacket in the subway.

>> No.15817044

>>15817012
man, you got btfo hard by that anon, just stay quiet

>> No.15817077

>>15816972
Hey didnt some gents try this one and the whole world flipped shit?

>> No.15817097

Communism has nothing to do with the left.

>> No.15817107

>>15816972
Marx criticized communism based on envy:
>"Universal envy constituting itself as a power is the hidden form in which greed reasserts itself and satisfies itself, but in another way. The thoughts of every piece of private property as such are at least turned against richer private property in the form of envy and the desire to level everything down;" (between poverty and wealth) "hence these feelings in fact constitute the essence of competition." (wherein the privatist society is founded) "The crude communist is merely the culmination of this envy and desire to level down on the basis of a preconceived minimum" (in the existing social distribution).

The proletariat won't live a life of leisure because the need for labour doesn't disappear with the demise of capitalism. Just the social form of this labour changes.

Also this spengler retard sound like he doesn't even know what capitalism is.

>> No.15817143

>>15817107
what is the source of your citation?

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>>15816010
Don't have much.

>> No.15817389

>>15817369
gtfo with facebook tier humor

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>>15817389
You can tell by the filename that's from 4chan, /pol/ specifically. But let's see what else I've got.

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>>15816995
Yes.

>> No.15817707

>>15817604
Gtfo back to /pol, rat

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>>15816010