/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15874452]

Should I go to back to school to learn Philosophy or should I learn it by myself and debate with you losers instead?

[Anonymous No.15874455]

>>15874452
Get graduated in 4chan, anon. This will definitely be great for your future.

[Anonymous No.15874460]

>>15874452
My dad says I should get a degree in literature I’m considering it I just hate school so much but the thought of becoming a legitimate scholar is... very cool

[Anonymous No.15874483]

>>15874452
I have a philosophy degree. I don't regret doing philosophy. But not sure I'd go out and get it now.

[Anonymous No.15874490]

>>15874452
It's basically impossible to learn it yourself. Enroll in a top-tier graduate program if you can get accepted.

[Anonymous No.15874491]

>>15874483
Why? I thought about it a lot of time ago. Should have unironically gone for it. But I don't think I would go for it now.

[Anonymous No.15874497]

>>15874452
Depends what you want out of it. Also check whether you enjoy historical causation and context within thought, because there's really no history of ideas or continental philosophy at Anglo departments of philosophy.

[Anomynoose No.15874503]

>>15874460
1. You have to be 18 to post here
2. Academia is an actual nightmare, tread carefully
3. I fell for the "follow your passion" meme, I'd strongly urge you to pursue a major that opens career opportunities in lucrative fields. Take classes for literature on the side, or become an autodidact and well read on your own terms.

[Anonymous No.15874544]

>>15874503
>a major that opens career opportunities in lucrative fields
The idea of dedicating a large portion of my life toward work that I pursue strictly to make money seems like a huge fucking crime against humanity. I’d like to make money doing work I love, and I don’t want to settle for anything less than that. It’s not just that, I would be miserable. I don’t mind having a job, even a gruesome labor intensive job, I understand how important money is, but the idea of shaping myself up as a stooge for an indefinite time for the purpose of making the big big money, it’s not just like against my religion or “not me”, I won’t do it. I’d rather be homeless then be selling car insurance

[Anonymous No.15874556]

>>15874452
if you were beginning school, it might be a good idea to double major with something else. but going back, fuck no. unless you're wealthy. are you wealthy?

[Anonymous No.15874564]

>learning philosophy from school

[Anonymous No.15874570]

>>15874503
I just autodidact'd what that word means

[Anonymous No.15874572]

>>15874564
I suppose learning it from TikTok is a better option

[Anonymous No.15874574]

1. Start a Band
2. Make a movie
3. Write a book
4. Lead a revolution
Only things I would literally starve for in terms of work/dedication

[Anonymous No.15874579]

>>15874544
Literature departments today are just breeding grounds for 'woke' IdPol enthusiasts. If that's what you're into, have at it. Otherwise select a more dignified major.

[Anonymous No.15874580]

>>15874544
Same. I went the "do what I want" route. I've developed many marketable skills, and never have to worry that I'll be unable to make a living. But not everyone will achieve that by doing what they want. Just be sure you're investing in yourself. If you're knowledgeable and capable in enough things you can go through life trying new stuff and never get stuck in a career you despise.

[Anonymous No.15874587]

>>15874579
and that is

[Anonymous No.15874604]

>>15874572
Why would you learn philosophy from tiktok?

[Anonymous No.15874606]

>>15874587
French studies

[Anonymous No.15874644]

I'll just get a phd in marketing. Thanks guys.

[Anonymous No.15874654]

I wish I could bring my favorite books to a classroom and read for the first hour. Then discuss for mmmm my notes for the second hour. I’d like to do this for weeks until I’ve generated a thoroughly consistent original idea that I can put to words. And then I’d like to spend a year crafting this with said person until it’s perfect. A perfect book. Then spend a few months looking for a publisher with a set plan to your give lectures on the topic. I would do this for years, many books. With friends around the world who can discuss and build and share ideas I would buy a cottage in Iceland and invest in building a public library where my works could be archived

[Anonymous No.15874713]

>>15874579
I wonder if you can just get a degree without dealing with departments. Honestly, I kind of like the idea of doing it all online, except deadlines and shit, but I find it more appealing then €get parking pass, find parking lot, get to class on time, take notes, don’t pay attention to her short dress, school cafeteria with reddit& so on

[Anonymous No.15874738]

>>15874654
Iceland is the patrician choice

[Anonymous No.15874775]

>>15874738

[Anonymous No.15874781]

>>15874587
Philosophy, Classics, Physics, Mathematics.

[Anonymous No.15874803]

>>15874781
Looked into this. Classics is either roman or greek, and it’s two years of learning the language. Philosophy now days is taught by the most asinine people on the planet, plus I don’t want to read the complete works of Sir Literally Who

[Anonymous No.15874822]

>>15874803
>Philosophy now days is taught by the most asinine people on the planet
False. Just the opposite.

>plus I don’t want to read the complete works of Sir Literally Who
That doesn't happen in Philosophy.

[Anonymous No.15874850]

>>15874822
The last time I was in school my ethics teacher literally just ranted every class. He would get mad if anyone asked any questions. I would have dropped out completely it wasn’t for my ancient philosophy course, and that was only after I had established to my professor that I was well read and that his Pokémon slideshow’s were insulting to the topics at hand. Literally if the Professor isn’t dog shit he’s literally in the mindset that he’s teaching philosophy to people who are majoring in buisness marketing and taking the course because ceramics was booked

[Anonymous No.15874895]

>>15874850
Sounds like you went to a shit school.

[Anonymous No.15874942]

>>15874895
the other school was worse the dude kept making snide remarks about theists, jumped around philosophy as if was topic oriented, my final literally forced him to write a new curriculum where he taught philosophy in the form of history. He asked me for help but I declined when I found out the person helping him was a young chick student who he was banging in hotel rooms. The other guy who taught philosophy had a picture of Lindsey Lohan in his office. Mind you these people have HIGH rating of ratemyprofessor and people love their jokes- I just can’t stand it. Studying philosophy is not and should not be treated like a studying anthropology. Honestly the only class I ever really loved in college was Astronomy. My teacher was so incredible I actually considered studying physics for awhile

[Anonymous No.15874957]

>>15874942
You have to be 18 to post here.

[Anonymous No.15874960]

>>15874957
I’m most likely older than you

[Anonymous No.15874961]

>>15874960
You are a young teenager trying to troll and failing.

[Anonymous No.15874971]

>>15874961
Lol why. I’ll admit these experiences were when I was around that age but nonetheless I’m being earnest. Studying philosophy in school for credits with ratemyprofessor’s favorite stand up comedian vs learning philosophy on your own are completely different dimensions

[Anonymous No.15874972]

>>15874452
College won't teach you shit about philosophy, and what it will teach you will be the corpses of ideas. Disected and ripped apart by carrion with their wings stuffed in graduation gowns. Just pick up a book and read.

[Anonymous No.15874980]

>>15874971
You have very strong opinions on the subject given that you don't even know what it is. You stink to high heaven of pubescent internet troll.

[Anonymous No.15874982]

>>15874972
if you aren't American you might aswell enroll at a uni instead of becoming the NEET philosopher king.

[Anonymous No.15874986]

>>15874972
You'll never learn philosophy that way. You'll just be another clueless pseud on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.15875003]

>>15874980
You think I don’t know who Thales, Pythagoras, Parmenides, Zeno, Plato, Xenophon, Aristotle, Epicurus are? you think I haven’t been reading Bacon, Spinoza, Montaigne, Rousseau, Kant or Hegel? Or that I haven’t ran through Freud, Jung, Husserl, Heidegger, Foucault, Derrida, or Zizek?

[Anonymous No.15875005]

>>15875003
Not him but namedropping's not gonna help your case.

[Anonymous No.15875008]

>>15875003
Just stop.

[Anonymous No.15875017]

>>15875005
>>15875008
Please believe me your validation is what I need in my life anon

[Anonymous No.15875033]

>>15874982
I'm American and enrolled at uni on scholarships. I also don't mind working, a sedentary body begets a sedentary mind, so unless I fuck up along the way, I most likely won't fall to NEEThood.
>>15874986
With a good pair of eyes and a couple footnotes anyone can educate himself on philosophy.

[Anonymous No.15875049]

>>15875003
Ready Player One: Pseudo-Intellectual Edition.

[Anonymous No.15875055]

>>15875033
Philosophy is an activity, not a set of readings.

[Anonymous No.15875062]

>>15875049
>>15875008
>>15875005
Everybody get insecure

[Anonymous No.15875069]

>>15875003
NOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.15875088]

>>15875055
>reading isn’t an activity

[Anonymous No.15875100]

>>15875088
It's an activity other than philosophizing.

[Anonymous No.15875106]

>>15875100
Wrong

[Anonymous No.15875110]

>>15874452
start with the greeks.

[Anonymous No.15875111]

>>15874452
fuck, jreg has been knocked around a bit huh?

[Anonymous No.15875114]

>>15875055
>arguing with morons
>I am now on duty philosophizer

[Anonymous No.15875115]

>>15875106
Were you dropped on your head?

[Anonymous No.15875116]

>You can only be a philosopher if you study it at university

[Anonymous No.15875124]

>>15875110
start (reading) the greeks with an emphasis on understanding them

[Anonymous No.15875131]

>>15875115
That’s all you got huh

[Anonymous No.15875141]

>>15874452
Dam look at this bitches 5head

[Anonymous No.15875149]

>>15875116
please recommend some well known philosophers from this and past century who never went to university to study philosophy

[Anonymous No.15875157]

First of all, /lit/ doesn't actually read philosophy outside of neoreactionary meme bloggers like Mencius Moldbug. Secondly, the value of studying Philosophy in a university is infinitely bigger than that of being an autodidact. Interacting with fellow students, writing essays and getting feedback on them, being exposed to the entirety of Western philosophy instead of nitpicking what you already believe.

Reading books in your room will never even get close. Do it.

[Anonymous No.15875160]

>>15875116
This is factually correct. In fact, you need a PHD from a top-tier program even to have a shot at a career in philosophy.

[Anonymous No.15875167]

>>15875149
Stiegler, Bohme, and literally everyone pre 500ad
>b-but the academy was just like university right
No.

[Anonymous No.15875175]

>>15875157
Ew

[Anonymous No.15875176]

>>15875167
Literally who, literally who, and a time when universities didn't even exist

Is this the power of the autodidact

[Anonymous No.15875181]

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[Anonymous No.15875183]

>>15875175
Imagine never writing an essay and thinking you're actually grasping the text

[Anonymous No.15875190]

>>15875167
Oh, so you are one of those wackjobs who think 500 ad was actually 100 years ago. Go back to /x/.

[Anonymous No.15875199]

>>15875167
I said "well known" not the literal whos

[Anonymous No.15875201]

>>15874452
Let me put it this way. I’m not studying philosophy to pass a midterm and I’m not spending a seconding cramming information so that I can fill out the scantron properly, sorry

[Anonymous No.15875208]

>>15875055
This thread's not about philosophizing, it's about educating ones self on philosophy.

[Anonymous No.15875209]

Who taught the first philosopher philosophy?

[Anonymous No.15875212]

>>15875201
Studying Philosophy in university is all about writing essays. You're completely clueless like all autodidacts

[Anonymous No.15875216]

>>15875176
>>15875181
>>15875183
>>15875190
>>15875199
Plebs

[Anonymous No.15875219]

>>15875157
>First of all, /lit/ doesn't actually read philosophy outside of neoreactionary meme bloggers like Mencius Moldbug.
nobody take this spreg faggot seriously, he is literal meme you retard

[Anonymous No.15875222]

>>15875212
>writing an essay on Chomsky

[Anonymous No.15875227]

>>15875181
Based

[Anonymous No.15875228]

>>15875222
>he thinks people in Philosophy departments actually study Chomsky
Lmfao its so entertaining to see how clueless you really are

[Anonymous No.15875235]

>>15875212
I don’t like that I have to choose between writing an essay based on what I understood vs writing an essay that will get me to ‘pass’ the class

[Anonymous No.15875237]

>>15875208
Imagine being this retarded. Getting an education in philosophy means learning how to philosophize.

[Anonymous No.15875240]

>>15875228
>people aren’t writing essays on Chomsky
Lmfao its so cringey to see how retarded you actually are

[Anonymous No.15875245]

>>15875237
Nobody who speaks like you is actually intelligent, and insulting your superiors is the quickest way of deluding yourself my child

[Anonymous No.15875251]

>>15875237
I'm glad you understood that. However; we are talking about the education itself the vast majority of which is done by reading.

[Anonymous No.15875261]

>>15875251
It's not essential. You could theoretically learn philosophy without reading a single book.

[Anonymous No.15875269]

>>15875261

[Anonymous No.15875278]

>>15875261
This is what school looks like

[Anonymous No.15875288]

>>15875209
>there has to be a definite beginning to things

[Anonymous No.15875291]

>>15875261
Perhaps, but there's no one in the past five hundred years who has.

[Anonymous No.15875305]

>>15875269
What books do you think Thales and Pythagoras read?

[Anonymous No.15875308]

>>15875116
>career in philosophy

[Anonymous No.15875317]

Read Heidegger, read Kant, then Aristotle, then Aquinas and then once again read Heidegger.

[Anonymous No.15875325]

>>15875305
They probably read the papyrus scrolls of the Phoenicians and Egyptians retard

[Anonymous No.15875329]

>>15875261
This is literally the dumbest post I have ever seen in my entire life

[Anonymous No.15875331]

>>15875291
No, it is fairly common. Arguments can be presented on a chalk board and analyzed. The logic of various responses to a question can be elucidated and assessed through dialogue. The activity of philosophy predates widespread literacy and extended discursive treatises. If you had ever studied philosophy, you would know that it is not reading intensive. It is thinking intensive.

[Anonymous No.15875336]

>>15875325
False.

[Anonymous No.15875338]

>>15875331
Read Of Grammatology and fuck off

[Anonymous No.15875342]

>>15875329
>t. never studied philosophy

[Anonymous No.15875344]

>>15875331
How do you know all of this anon? Where did you come about this info?

[Anonymous No.15875343]

>>15875336
Your right, they used their library cards to read all 13 books of Homer in paperback

[Anonymous No.15875350]

>>15875338
Fuck off pseud boy. You're easy to spot.

[Anonymous No.15875351]

>>15875342
Are you saying I’ve never read philosophy? Check mate dumbass

[Anonymous No.15875354]

>>15875209
the myths

[Anonymous No.15875358]

>>15875351
Are you a Brit making a pun?

[Anonymous No.15875363]

>>15875350
No I’m gonna stay right here and call out the person who regurgitates concepts and things that as long as their categories are left uni estimated they can jerk themselves off in front of a chalk board about philosophizing

[Anonymous No.15875380]

>>15875342
you are seriously the dumbest person I’ve ever spoken too

[Anonymous No.15875385]

>>15875363
Learn English then try to talk shit, crackpot. You're unintelligible.

[Anonymous No.15875394]

>>15875380
>projecting this intensely
Go get your GED, dumbfuck.

[Anonymous No.15875395]

>20 posters ITT
I was wodering why every single reply here is so abnormally retarded

[Anonymous No.15875405]

>>15875385
>I believe in pure concepts

[Anonymous No.15875412]

>>15875394

[Anonymous No.15875435]

Hey guys are you ready to philosophy ?!?!?!

[Anonymous No.15875489]

>>15875003
oh my God dude shut the fuck up lmfao

[Anonymous No.15875509]

>>15875003
PLEASE INSEMINATE ME

[Anonymous No.15875529]

>>15875003
Holy fuck dude super based you’re obviously like gigachad

[Anonymous No.15875531]

>>15875003
Extremely based chad teenager triggering pseuds into seethe overload

[Anonymous No.15875537]

>>15874503
What are some lucrative fields?

[Anonymous No.15875552]

>>15875003
Holy mother of based

[Anonymous No.15875557]

>>15875003
Get me in the screencap

[Anonymous No.15875581]

>>15875003
Holy fucking shit how does somebody so young know all these fucking based philosophers and is shitting on everyone in this thread

[Anonymous No.15875593]

>>15875003

[Anonymous No.15875623]

>>15875003

[Q No.15875651]

>>15875003
Holy Based

[Anonymous No.15875666]

>>15874544
Welcome to the real world. 85% of Americans hate their jobs.

Work really hard. Wake up at 5am, work out, take school really seriously. Don’t use social media, don’t watch television. Develop your interpersonal skills. Realize that you’re a nobody with no skills and no new ideas and college is where you prove yourself.

I graduated with a degree in a field that I’m passionate about and now work a shitty corporate job. I didn’t take school seriously enough, and I sort of let mass culture rot my brain. I had no discipline. Trying to fix my life now.

The biggest meme about college is that, rather than learn, you’re there to get certified as a member of the bourgeoisie so you can get a white collar gig. The second biggest meme is that it’s a four year break from the real world where you’re supposed to have fun.

If you want to have a better outcome than the vast majority of Americans slaving away in a hellish, proletarianized private sector, you have to be more disciplined than them. Bottom line.

[Anonymous No.15875672]

>>15875666
Fuck you

[Anonymous No.15875677]

>>15875003
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[Anonymous No.15875703]

>>15875666
And really, the biggest thing that anybody going into the liberal arts has to realize is that you probably have nothing new to say, and there is no reason for anybody to care what you have to say.

Develop yourself into the kind of person who can contribute to a dialog that has been unfolding for twenty five centuries.

[Anonymous No.15875718]

>>15875672
>implying i’m not right

Boo hoo I want to follow my passion :(

Yeah buddy so does everybody from the gas station to the insurance company call centers. If you think a 3.3 GPA from a public university with no real research experience is good enough, you’re wrong.

[Anonymous No.15875723]

>>15875666
>>15875703
Is it that cold outside.

This is what I’m gonna do. I’m gonna take a shit, and then read a book. And then I’m gonna write some shit, and if a bunch of whores wanna suck me off when I get old cuz of some shit I wrote then fuck yea doggy. If not, I can got to bed with my dignity, knowing I didn’t bend over so that some faggot can write me a check for being his personal accountant. Because in the grand scheme of things... who gives a rats ass

[Anonymous No.15875725]

>>15875718
>>15875703
Oh you sad men.

[Anonymous No.15875750]

>>15875003
HOLY FUCK THIS DUDE JUST TOOK A GIANT WET SHIT IN EVERYONES MOUTH

[Anonymous No.15875768]

>>15875723
>If not, I can got to bed with my dignity, knowing I didn’t bend over so that some faggot can write me a check for being his personal accountant.

lol good luck with that. is your plan to depend on government assistance?

[Anonymous No.15875770]

>>15875723
But anon, aren’t you forgetting mummy and papa? They paid so much money to pamper you through life, the least you could do is whore yourself out so that you can buy them dinner if not perfect photo ops of you doing “mature” things with your super happy wholesome life

[Anonymous No.15875775]

>>15875768
My plan is to find your gf and have her do my laundry while your at work

[Anonymous No.15875794]

>>15875003
based and incredibly sexy

[Anonymous No.15875797]

I have an MA in Philosophy and I have never met a non-Philosophy degree person who actually knew what he was talking about. Autodidacts aka amateur hobbyists tend to overestimate their abilities, nitpick philosophical ideas they already agree with and generally use philosophy as a self help tool. They're the Peterson crowd basically, and they tend to be extremely dogmatic about their philosophical views. No Phil major would ever get upset if you call Derrida full of shit, or Heidegger a spineless nazi. They'd probably agree with you, actually. The activity of Philosophy (discussing with fellow students, interacting with expert professors, writing essays etc) naturally kills any dogmaticism. It's the autodidacts who read 'Critique of Pure Reason' without any prior knowledge, pretend to understand it, and then decide they actually 'disagree' with it and claim that Kant was 'wrong'. Actual philosophers are less interested in agreeing or disagreeing with ideas, and more interested in trying to understand the great thinkers of the past and how they were connected to each other and their times. The university is the perfect place for this activity, unless you go to some political activist American college.

It's like studying mathematics for six years and then arguing with someone who read an 'Introduction to Math' pdf file. Problem with philosophy is that it's easy to bullshit to others who have no knowledge about philosophy, whereas with math this won't work. This is why someone like Peterson has such a massive appeal among an ignorant audience, who are dogmatically 'against' Marx and Derrida even though they have no idea what those people's ideas were and how they developed over time. Derrida got a lot of criticism when he claimed that philosophy is stricly European and Asians only have 'thought', yet Peterson makes you believe he is some sort of super communist villain when no French intellectuals after the 60's actually took Marxism seriously apart from that hack Sartre.

When Peterson debated Zizek his mask fell off when it was obvious he did not even understand the basic tenets of Hegelianism. Imagine what Zizek must have been thinking when Peterson told him 'You have a very strong identity.' 'You are a very unique individual, which is admirable' 'You are the strangest Marxist I have ever met'. You can see him just smile and nod and pretend to respect him, while in reality it's as if a child rambles and an adult has no other option to smile and pat his head lovingly.

So yes, if you're not studying Philosophy at a good university you might as well just never read any philosophy at all. Just stick to self help books and bro stoicism, lift some weights and update that Tinder profile and your urge to "read" "philosophy" will disappear.

[Anonymous No.15875829]

>>15875797
tldr

[Anonymous No.15875836]

>>15875829
Not surprised. Maybe I should summarize it in twelve bullet points so you Petersonists will be able to grasp it

[Anonymous No.15875839]

>>15875003
FUCKING BASED, /lit/ JUST GOT BTFO

[Anonymous No.15875840]

>>15875797
You are the reason that academia is a fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.15875844]

Hey guys, Immanuel Kant here
Sup

[Anonymous No.15875849]

>>15875797
>No Phil major would ever get upset if you call Derrida full of shit, or Heidegger a spineless nazi. They'd probably agree with you, actually.
actually guys, like seriously they would agree actually

[Anonymous No.15875852]

>>15875003
Based and epicpilled

[Anonymous No.15875858]

>>15875003

[Anonymous No.15875871]

>>15875797
>It's like studying mathematics for six years
wow

[Anonymous No.15875877]

>>15875840
>no arguments, just personal attacks
I am shook and surprised.

>>15875849
They would. Only pseud autodidacts pretend philosophers are their personal friends. I study at a top 20 humanities faculty in Europe, and Heidegger is extremely popular here among progressive students.

[Anonymous No.15875878]

>>15875797

[Anonymous No.15875879]

>>15875003
HOLY SHIT NIGGERS

[Anonymous No.15875890]

>>15875877
>I study at a top 20 humanities faculty in Europe
I work at walmart

[Anonymous No.15875898]

>>15875003

[Anonymous No.15875908]

>>15875003
How can one anon be so based
And sexy

[Anonymous No.15875918]

>>15875797
>>15875003
>>15875261
I can't believe it, three of the dumbest posts I've ever read in one thread.

[Anonymous No.15875928]

>>15875890
Just read Marcus Aurelius "Meditations" and Kay-moo "Myth of Sisyphus" while lifting weights and your life will drastically increase anon :) Oh yes and don't forget to pet a cat when you see it! Is your room clean haha?

[Anonymous No.15875932]

>>15875918
4

[Anonymous No.15875937]

>>15875797
>Claims academia kills dogmaticism
>Clings to the dogma of intellectual elitism.

[Anonymous No.15875943]

>>15875928
I have epilepsy

[Anonymous No.15875948]

>>15875003
Literally
>Why? Yes I listen to Merzbow, Boredoms, Gerogerigegege, Coil, Throbbing Gristle, Whitehouse, Nurse with Wound, Einstürzende Neubauten, Brainbombs, Egor Letov, Death in June, Current 93, La Monte Young, Moondog, Lou Harrison, Henry Cowell, Luigi Russolo, Popol Vuh, Fishmans, Jean Jacques Perrey, Les Rallizes Dénudés, Rainbow Caroliner, Taj Mahal Travellers, Fushitsusha, Peter Brötzmann, John Cage, Scott Walker, Unwound, Dead, Frank Zappa, Morton Feldman, Captain Beefheart, Pharoah Sanders, Albert Ayler, Ornette Coleman, Alice Coltrane, Arnold Schoenberg, Pierre Boulez, György Ligeti, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Nang Nang, Thinking Fellers Union Local 282, Nara Leão, Basic Channel, Raymond Scott, Delia Derbyshire, Daphne Oram, Noah Howard, Terry Riley, Peter Sotos, Lula Côrtes e Zé Ramalho, Boyd Rice, Mahmoud Ahmed, Henry Flynt, Kazumoto Endo, David Tudor, Aporea, Half Japanese, Mega Banton, Secret Chiefs 3, Keiji Haino, Ramleh, Otomo Yoshihide, John Zorn, Joe Meek, Robbie Basho, Phil Spector, Faxed Head, Harry Partch, Wesley Willis, Fred Frith, The Residents, Sun Ra, Sun City Girls, Hans Krüsi, Royal Trux, Jandek, Yat-Kha, Loren Mazzacane Connors, Pärson Sound, The Dead C, Comus, Cromagnon, Eliane Radigue, Arthur Doyle, Shizuka, The Red Krayola, Henry Cow, Magma, Opus Avantra, Pan.Thy.Monium., Murmuüre, Ksiezyc, Gong, Cukor Bila Smert', cLOUDDEAD, Muslimgauze and Kaoru Abe
very biased nonetheless

[Anonymous No.15875954]

>>15875003
Dude! This post is way cooler that this one for sure >>15875918 this guys is obviously gay and likes penis

[Anonymous No.15875956]

>>15875003
"When it came to my research, I never took any shortcuts. Over the past five years, I’d worked my way down the entire recommended /lit/ reading list. Thales, Pythagoras, Parmenides, Zeno, Plato, Xenophon, Aristotle, Epicurus. Bacon, Spinoza, Montaigne, Rousseau, Kant and Hegel. Freud, Jung, Husserl, Heidegger, Foucault, Derrida, and Zizek. And I didn't stop there...."

[Anonymous No.15875965]

>>15875003
Wow

[Anonymous No.15875972]

>>15875937
Intellectual elitism is not a dogma, merely a side effect of a better grasp on reality. Or are we gonna pretend some random peasant has just as valid views as an expert? Isn't that the 'postmodern Marxism' your daddy Peterson warned against?

Philosophy has always been an elitist activity. The angry democratic crowd put Socrates to death for being annoyingly more knowledgeable than the average Greek joe.

If you want to praise mediocrity, be my guest. But I'm not gonna pretend your opinion matters.

[Anonymous No.15875975]

Do you guys eat cheeseburgers?

[Anonymous No.15875984]

>>15875918
>impulsive emotional reaction rather than actual intellectual interaction
Found the Petersonist manchild

[Anonymous No.15875986]

>>15875975
THATS A FUCKING HAMBURGER FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.15875993]

>>15875003

[Anonymous No.15875997]

>>15875972
I only know Peterson from this board and even then I haven't yet bothered to look into him. Also
>But I'm not gonna pretend your opinion matters.
literal dogmatism. I know this is bait, but come on.

[Anonymous No.15876000]

>>15875986
That’s actually Burger Kings Impossible Whopper! a burger made with a plant-based, protein-filled patty. This week, the chain unveiled the next iteration of its Impossible offerings with a new breakfast sandwich: the Impossible Croissan’wich.

When Burger King's original Impossible Whopper hit stores nationwide, many were upset that even though the veggie burger isn't made with any meat (or animal byproducts), the burger itself isn't 100% vegetarian when ordered with no modifications. EBT accepted at specific locations