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What the fuck did I just read? I think about 25% of this made sense

>> No.15878109

>>15878079
ok then read it again idiot

>> No.15878192

What is this about and it is any good?

>> No.15878198

this is the 5th fucking post about this shit in the past 2 days
is pewdiepie telling you to read this or something

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>>15878198
/lit/ has always liked Mishima, faggot

>> No.15878213

>>15878198
Discord niggers, famalam

>> No.15878220

How long is Sun and Steel?

>> No.15878222

>>15878109
I can't put myself through this demented meandering shit any further. What made sense really spoke to me, but the rest felt like it was written by AI.

Shame because a couple of his others are some of my favorites

>> No.15878229

>>15878220
About 100 pages

>> No.15878242
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15878242

It is known that Mishima enjoyed Nietzsche, Bataille, Wilde and Dostoevsky. Which other western writers did he like?

>> No.15878250

>>15878242

Thomas Mann and Raymond Radiguet, Radiguet was actually a major influence on him.

>> No.15878761

Anyone got the pdf for Sun and Steel?

>> No.15878767

>>15878222
Probably a translation issue desu

>> No.15878824

>>15878079
That book reminds me of Horia Belcea's The Synthesis of the Objective and the Subjective

>> No.15878880

>>15878250
If that Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters film is accurate then Mann was his favorite novelist.

>> No.15878929

>>15878761
here:

sunandsteel.pdf

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>>15878222
I've never understood this.
>a rambling
>meandering
>incoherent

How do these people not intuitively understand the overall ideas an author is conveying through individual literary brushstrokes of anecdote, reflection and reference? Are they hylics? Do they look at paintings and see ten thousand ugly smears?

>> No.15879474

>>15878079
>What the fuck did I just read?
A Japanese boomer ranting about how “perfect” the empire was before they capitalized and went all western.

>> No.15879507

>grade school nihilists still thinking death is a way out from anything
Mainlander was wrong, you're not there to experience the eternal bliss of nothingness, geniuses, so from your perspective (or any perspective, be it man, beast, mineral, or conceptual) it doesn't even happen, death isn't a black hole your consciousness dissolves into, it's a brick wall, the beginning and the end of your life a set of bookends you run between over the course of an eternity

>> No.15879664

>>15878079
75% filtered

>> No.15879726

>>15878880
it's not accurate, he wasn't an actual gay, he only fucked traps.

>> No.15879764

It's basically just that Socrates maxim about not being a slothlord and actually lifting and becoming fit: The Essay.

>> No.15879783

>>15878761
sent :)

>> No.15880638

>>15878079
post a confusing section?

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>>15878213
>keep hearing about different discord servers that run every thread on /lit/
>no invite to any of them

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>>15878198
Yes but no

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>>15881114
>Dollar bills for bookmarks

Based.
And you can get sun and steel for 10$ plus shipping here

https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/yukio-mishima/sun-steel/paperback/product-1rzj5dgk.html

>> No.15881691

>>15881655
Thanks anon, that's the only english translation i'm missing from my library. Pardon the dumb question but is this an unofficial print? I think the oop original was published through Kodansha's channels?

>>15880895
Do people actually have productive conversations on discord? I genuinely haven't had any good experiences there. I've been in a few of our tinychat calls which turned out pretty nice.

>> No.15881704

>>15881691
I've really only had productuve conversations on discord, but only in closed off voice channels and private calls where the common man has no presence.

>> No.15881709

>>15878079
the way he describes male bodies in confessions of a mask makes me horny and envious.

>> No.15881745

>>15881704
Not meant to be a jab but do you have a good social circle offline too? I'm good at dealing with normies but I have a hard time giving annoying people online the time of the day. Maybe my failures are a problem with me?

>>15881709
The way he describes kinkakuji summoned feelings I long forgot existed. That's the allure of pure undiluted obsession, isn't it?

>> No.15881768

>>15881704
>where the common man has no presence
you are a loser

>> No.15881812

>>15881768
t. common man

>> No.15881831

>>15881655
Its a good way to find a $20 later
>$10+
Fuck me I spent $75

>> No.15881845

>>15881812
Imagine sitting at your computer talking to other internet racists on a chat application for gamers and referring to "the common man" like some aristocrat. We are both common men, you just have your head up your own ass

>> No.15881859

The discord is just pseuds constantly trying to one up eachother by boasting about how much they've read Dubliners by James Joyce or something. It's really not good

>> No.15882428

>>15881745
>Not meant to be a jab but do you have a good social circle offline too?
Not really, can't trust any of them to stay on topic and none I know reads anything but fantasy stuff.
>>15881768
On any discord server there's always a mess of young people spamming memes and shitposters etc who just want to cause trouble. You need to separate yourself from that if you want to have any real discussion.

>> No.15882497

>>15879453
I feel the same way and it’s the same issue with jp. You don’t have to like the guy or think he’s right. Art is a resource that much can be gleaned from if you aren’t a brainlet and have the ability to think creatively.

>> No.15882508

>>15879764
Source? I want to Read that

>> No.15882534

>>15878198
pewdiepie only read it because it was spammed on here and /pol/

>> No.15884333

>>15881691
Oh ya it's definitely a pirate run for sure. There's no way who ever owns the rights would sell these for 10$ bucks when there's still plenty of people paying $75

>> No.15884451

>>15879453
At this point I’m honestly just convinced 85% of the population are too retarded to function and be given rights. Critical thinking is above them

>> No.15885042

>>15878079

Mishima was a /lit/ nerd who took up strength training because his boyfriend made fun of him while they were at a gay nightclub. Then he wrote a book, Sun and Steel and talks about how great it is to be lifting weights. I think that's what it is. I got a laugh when I watched a short clip from a Mishima biography program where he agreed to get married to a woman to please his parents, as long as she had not interest in his works and be shorter then him, since Mishima was short.

>> No.15885303

>>15885042
See
>>15884451
>>15879453

>> No.15886388

>>15885303

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaqVv5j0m48