/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15947234]

What fictional character landed the biggest, most personal impact on you and why?

[Anonymous No.15947261]

>>15947234
Prince Myshkin, Braz Cubas and Augie March

[Anonymous No.15948278]

>>15947234
Stay in your containment thread.

[Anonymous No.15948529]

Anasûrimbor Kellhus. I wanted to become Dûnyain and know people, to be able to look inside them and control them. To stand like an adult among children and guide them.

A bunch of /lit/tards say he is supposed to be the bad guy too, which is bullshit.

[Anonymous No.15948549]

Hank Rearden

[Anonymous No.15948551]

>>15948529
Already failed. Kellhus needed power and control for a specific reason a Dunyain would view the desire for power as a weakness and not being self-determining

[Anonymous No.15948568]

>>15947234
Sydney Carton (Tale of Two Cities), Dmitri Karamazov (TBK), and John Falstaff (Henry IV) immediately come to mind on a personal level. Pierre Bezukhov (War and Peace) and Prince Hamlet are characters who don't have much of a personal impact, but I reflect on them a lot and they make me wonder what I should do with my life. Underground Man and Yozo (No Longer Human) are always in the back of my mind too, haunting the visions of my future. I guess Boromir and Hector are the characters I discuss the most with normies though.

[Fuck Jannies No.15948592]

>>15947234

[Anonymous No.15948619]

>>15948551
I know. I also can't learn things instantly or be constantly in control of my will.

That's why I also like Guts. I figure he could fuck of the Consult at least as bad and is powered, more understandably, by pure rage.

[Anonymous No.15948630]

>>15948592

[Anonymous No.15948651]

>>15948592
For someone who likes "evil" characters you could discuss for hours, I really thought I'd love Griffith after hearing all the "Griffith did nothing wrong" stuff. I couldn't help but think his "evil" was a bit overhyped. I thought it would be a more planned betrayal, not just "time to push the emergency exit button".

[Fuck Jannies No.15948749]

>>15948651
Even though It is a meme, I honestly don’t think Griffithsu did anything wrong. They were his men to sacrifice on the battlefield or the astral plane. Gutsu was the only one he loved and for him It was different Griffithsu couldn’t stand the though of losing him again. Griffith locked in the helmet is the biggest mystery of Berserk because then unlike any other point you can’t tell what Griffith is thinking, what lead up to the big event. For biggest person impact I was faced with a very hard moral question which changed the outcome of my life, and to answer It, I thought what would Griffith do, and from their I made my life what I wanted, but did spend a few years with the guilt that came with It.

[Anonymous No.15948809]

>>15948749
>They were his men to sacrifice on the battlefield or the astral plane.
No. Griffith was an absolute shit. Sacrificing their souls to eternal torment is not part of the band's understanding.

[Anonymous No.15948821]

>>15947234
the painter strauch

[Anonymous No.15948841]

>>15948809
Not the guy you were replying to, but idk. It was certainly an evil thing to do, but the whole "entire skinned burn, no tongue, probably no penis, no eyelids, and your team won't let you kill yourself" situation is pretty fucking rough. I think I'd probably just drown myself in that river if I was him at that moment, but it's easy to say that when I'm not the one facing the ultimate temptation.

[Anonymous No.15948884]

>>15948841
Consider yourself as one of the sacrificed then. The temptations understandable but not excusable.

[Anonymous No.15948891]

God

[Fuck Jannies No.15948900]

>>15948809
To give up them would be to disgrace all those who gave their lives for his dream once you start walking down that road you can’t turn back

[Anonymous No.15948903]

>>15948884
Easy to do, all true Chads self-insert as Corkus. Joking aside, I see what you mean.

[Anonymous No.15948904]

>>15947234
The regular anon.

[Anonymous No.15948908]

>>15948529
>>15948551

Oh shit! I just finished the first trilogy a couple months ago, I've never seen anything about it mentioned here. I was reading it on kindle and not paying attention to how far in I was, so right before the ending I was like "aww yeeeaahh shit's about to get real fucking good" AND THEN IT ABRUPTLY ENDED.

I absolutely agree with why you like him though, even though he was totally a mary sue.

[Fuck Jannies No.15948917]

>>15948841
Yah he was actively trying to kill himself during the eclipse

[Fuck Jannies No.15948925]

>>15948884
If you let someone kill you it’s your own fault

[Anonymous No.15948932]

>>15948900
That was literally just demon illusions. His kingdom as it is is an illusion too. A demonic trick on the world.

[Anonymous No.15948934]

>>15947234
Hesus Cristos

[Anonymous No.15948939]

>>15948749
It's pretty shocking if you're reading it for the first time. Moreso if you watched the 90s anime, because the Black Swordsman Arc is only in the opening of the first episode and doesn't show the GodHand at all.

It's also the themes. Adolescent friendship and a relationships for the broken, the homoeroticism of Griffith, the sacrifice to free him, all that builds not into a mature adult life and friendship, but betrayal, nursery, rape, and insanity. All stemming from ambition and the vicious law of causality.

[Anonymous No.15948940]

>>15948749
What makes Griffith wrong is that, unlike Guts, he gave himself up completely to causality and sacrificed his friends and humanity for a dream he can no longer appreciate.
Also merging the astral worlds together and causing thousands of innocent people to get mauled by trolls and minotaurs is a bit of a dick move.

[Fuck Jannies No.15948953]

>>15948932
Of course he wasn’t actually stacking up
Bodies It was a metaphor for all the wars he had fought, Once SK did the big boom the wall between the physical and ethereal was shattered and the two starting bleeding into one another so it’s likely a mixture

[Anonymous No.15948954]

>>15948925
How does that apply to the Hawks? They didn't know he was gonna do a sudden demon sacrifice. They couldn't defend against it once it happened.

[Fuck Jannies No.15948962]

>>15948939
Yes 90’s anime then manga is the most based way to appreciate It, because then you can listen to the soundtrack while reading the manga

[Anonymous No.15948963]

>>15947234
Stoner hit me harder than anticipated when I first read it.

[Anonymous No.15948968]

>>15948908
He's not really a Mary Sue because he is a manipulator and in some ways worse than losing to pure evil.

There are four more books. I will warm you that they aren't quite as good. I've finished two. At times it has ideas and sections that get as good as the first books, but there is this whole section, aptly names the slog, that takes up a huge proportion of the narrative while being the least interesting part and it goes on forever. It does end with a good payoff, but he could have had one really great book if he edited it down and combined the two books

[Fuck Jannies No.15948970]

>>15948954
Sacrifices in Berserk need to be someone who loves you the greater the love the more “power” in a way, their loyalty to him is what allowed them to be killed, they gave them their lives but not necessarily willingly in the end

[Fuck Jannies No.15948980]

>>15948963
Can you give me the run down on Stoner, I’m new here Is It worth buying?

[Anonymous No.15949005]

>>15948953
I mean there was no way at that point to truly reach his dream, and the temptation is a trick. The kingdom he has now is not the kingdom of his dreams. It's something he conjured situated on the Idea of Evil. He's basically become an antichrist.

[Anonymous No.15949019]

>>15948980
>buying books by dead authors
If you buy it, buy it from a local bookstore to support a business that needs it. Otherwise just fucking pirate it you mong

[Anonymous No.15949087]

>>15948970
But the difference is, again, dying in battle vs. demon soul sacrifice. Griffith may convince himself of the equivalence, but it's all a trick, in a desperate and manipulative moment. One thing I think Miura does well is the eloquence and appeal of evil.

[Anonymous No.15949130]

>>15948968
After reading how you explained it I can't disagree, seeing as the charisma of a Mary Sue is natural. Damn, so thanks for that. I'm reading The Count of Monte Cristo right now (speaking of Mary Sue's, lol), but maybe I'll get to continuing the series in the future after I'm done.

[Anonymous No.15949137]

Edmond Dantes

[Anonymous No.15949569]

>>15948529
The Dunyain are so potent they cuck at least 40% of readers into following them even when they can see what is in their hearts and how they ride men like horses.

Cnaiur is the only sane one and he is crazy.

[Anonymous No.15949594]

>>15947234
Myshkin and especially Oblomov cause they're too much like me

[Anonymous No.15949603]

>>15948970
>I know my mother loves me with all her heart, so it's ok to kill her to obtain her life insurance, as she has given me the consent to kill her by the simple act of loving me.
Do you see how ridiculous you sound?

[Anonymous No.15949660]

Cashel Boyle O'Connor Fitzmaurice Tisdall Farrell.

[Fuck Jannies No.15949668]

>>15949603

[Anonymous No.15949669]

>>15949569
Cnaiur is a fag. Kellhus is gay for a reason Cnaiur just likes it

[Anonymous No.15949677]

>>15949668
It's never implied that he says this to the other members of the Band of the Hawk.

[Anonymous No.15950136]

>>15948529
>>15948592

Not going to lie, I've thought a lot about a Berserk - Darkness That Comes Before fanfic cross over. It'd have to be Guts coming into the Three Seas because the world of Berserk seems way too simple politically for Khellus to take over.

Guts, as a physical mortal power would be equal, or near equal to Khellus and his children, but couldn't be dominated, just like Cnauir.

The demons of both share a similar esoteric description and vulgar physical presence.

I'd probably throw Guts in during the first huge battle of the Great Ordeal (because the initial trilogy is too good to defile) and then have him chop a few Bashrag in half after they dominate whole legions.

You could have a whole scene where he is captured while wounded and interrogated by Khellus's witch daughter.

He really wouldn't be a match for Khellus until he gets the Beserk armor, so we save that.

Meanwhile, Akha can find Casca around the Coffers.

[Anonymous No.15950162]

Rampage from project horizons :-)

[Anonymous No.15950414]

>>15947234
Judge Holden, easily. At time I first read BM, I was super into Sade and Wilde, and had considered myself an absolute hedonist. Upon reading BM, I was forced to confront the face of hedonism in its most horrifying incarnation, and I was forced to rethink my values. I'm still a materialist, but I have moved past pure hedonism in favor of more constructive philosophies.

[Anonymous No.15951929]

Oblomov. Recently Never Let Me Go characters.

[Anonymous No.15951965]

>>15950414
That's a pretty neat lesson to take from the Judge. I've dabbled in hedonism myself but never that far. I wonder how such a dynamic force enters a writer's mind. I know "Judge Holden" was a real person, but he seems so much less real than the presence of McCarthy's character.

[Anonymous No.15952016]

probably the mc from nausea

[Anonymous No.15952163]

idk, the dad from woolf's 'the lighthouse', the protagonist from hamsun's 'hunger'

[Anonymous No.15952221]

>>15947234
Him, Griffith, Raskolnikov, and Binx Bolling.

[Anonymous No.15952736]

>>15947234
Prince Myshkin by far. I was filled with a love for all humanity and I wanted to selflessly sacrifice my life just to help others. It only lasted for a week though.

[Anonymous No.15952883]

Jean-Baptiste Grenouille from 'Perfume: The Story of a Murderer'

Can relate to him the most. He's a disgusting piece of shit but incredibly resilient through hardship and he's autistic af.

[Anonymous No.15952901]

Ulrich. Literally me

[Anonymous No.15952925]

>>15951965
>>15950414
holden is the avatar of a demonic fusion of eros and mars. he is america's ur-myth, it's destiny manifest.

[Anonymous No.15954382]

>>15947234
MNM-DR
revenge and humor go great together

[Anonymous No.15954817]

>>15948980
It's a story about being given a shit hand while making the best of it, and doing your best to balance what you can control against what you can't. A view into the life of a man who, despite having an incredible weight placed on him throughout his life, must do his best to persevere, and understanding that you may not always be successful.
It makes you ask yourself? What can you do when all you're given is the mediocrity and the mundane? Do you take that shit and clench it in your asshole in hopes it becomes a diamond? What happens if/when it doesn't? And if it does, will you know what to do with it then, truly?

"And he had wanted to be a teacher, and he had become one; yet he knew, he had always known, that for most of his life, he had been an indifferent one. He had dreamed of a kind of integrity, of a kind of purity that was entire; he had found compromise and the assailing diversion of triviality. He had conceived wisdom, and at the end of the long years he had found ignorance. And what else? he thought. What else?"

This isn't usually my type of book, but I saw it through to the end, and I'm happy for it. I even digested it for a couple days before I moved on to something else.
As the other anon said -- try to get it from a local bookshop or just pirate it if you have a reader. John Williams is long gone now.

[Anonymous No.15955072]

>>15947234
Wellingborough Redburn. What a champ.

[Anonymous No.15955400]

Raskolnikov shattered my sense of superiority and condescension.

[Anonymous No.15955465]

>>15947234

[Anonymous No.15955490]

>>15955400
same

[Anonymous No.15956927]

>>15955465
Updated my journal with how based you are