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15962635 No.15962635[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Why do these people cling so desperately to the books of an author who clearly despises them?

>> No.15962643
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15962643

Horia Belcea loves everyone equally

>> No.15962648

>>15962635
Because if trannies only consumed by media by people who didn't despise them, they would be stuck with just watching eachother's onlyfans.

>> No.15962651

Retards are naturally attracted to children's media and entertainment in all of its forms.

>> No.15962815
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15962815

That's a real stumper

>> No.15962833

an oasis is an oasis is an a oasis

>> No.15962847

>>15962635
Hey guys I’m just like OBSESSED with what my younger siblings are doing I don’t know what to do honestly I feel like a pathetic creep I just stalk them please help. I am female btw not sure that matters

>> No.15962866

>>15962635
Why's it always a white males in tranny propaganda?

>> No.15962896

>you are valid
Is this what this is about? Validation?

>> No.15962900

>>15962896
Well, someone better be validating my parking

>> No.15962904

What is /lit/'s official stance on trannies?

>> No.15962906

>>15962635
I'd be honest, if Cervantes dedicated a part shitting on Mestizo's I'd be really butthurt
fortunately he only shat on t*rks

>> No.15962908

>>15962904
Fuck trannies

>> No.15962910
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>>15962896
It’s about magic.
Read Crowley muggle

>> No.15962920

What's the critical theory perspective on current transgender subculture? What would Baudrillard say?

>> No.15962923

>>15962896
Toleration is insidious. We can only 'tolerate' something that is invalid or wrong, and the continued existence of the invalid depends on our continued tolerance. When someone says they tolerate something they imply that it exists only due to their permission for it to exist, at any moment they could withdraw their tolerance, and support the removal or obliteration of the invalid.

So we say people are valid, and we accept others as a way to demonstrate that you do not see their existence as wrong or unnatural, and that you do not believe it is your right to give or withdraw permission for others to exist.

>> No.15962949

>>15962910
When you realize what Crowley has to do in the desert of Egypt to be initiated

>> No.15962966

>>15962949
>In February 1904, Crowley and Rose arrived in Cairo. Claiming to be a prince and princess, they rented an apartment in which Crowley set up a temple room and began invoking ancient Egyptian deities, while studying Islamic mysticism and Arabic. According to Crowley's later account, Rose regularly became delirious and informed him "they are waiting for you." On 18 March, she explained that "they" were the god Horus, and on 20 March proclaimed that "the Equinox of the Gods has come". She led him to a nearby museum, where she showed him a seventh-century BCE mortuary stele known as the Stele of Ankh-ef-en-Khonsu; Crowley thought it important that the exhibit's number was 666, the Number of the Beast in Christian belief, and in later years termed the artefact the "Stele of Revealing."

>According to Crowley's later statements, on 8 April he heard a disembodied voice that claimed to be that of Aiwass, the messenger of Horus, or Hoor-Paar-Kraat. Crowley said that he wrote down everything the voice told him over the course of the next three days, and titled it Liber AL vel Legis or
>The Book of the Law

>> No.15962977

>>15962966
>Eroto-comatose lucidity is a technique of sex magic known best by its formulation by English author and occultist Aleister Crowley in 1912, but which has several variations and is used in a number of ways by different spiritual communities. A common form of the ritual uses repeated sexual stimulation (but not to physical orgasm) to place the individual in a state between full sleep and full wakefulness as well as exhaustion, allowing the practitioner to commune with their god.

>> No.15962981

>>15962635

Why do they always talk like this? "You are loved and valid. We uplift your marginalised voices." It's like talking to a soundboard

>> No.15962996

>>15962923
This. Its peak slave morality

I dont hate transgender people but jesus fucking christ, their continued dependence on approval makes my balls shrink into oblivion.
I just wish for the day some chad tranny finally smacks some sense in the tranny community

>> No.15962998 [DELETED] 

>>15962977
>"Of the Eleventh Degree [of the Ordo Templi Orientis], its powers, privileges, and qualifications, nothing whatever is said in any grade. It has no relation to the general plan of the Order, is inscrutable, and dwells in its own palaces." (Liber CXCIV, 1919)
>Crowley: "I am inclined to believe that the XIth degree is better than the IXth degree", diary entry 26 August 1916.
"Oh, how superior is the Eye of Horus to the Mouth of Isis!". Diary 1913 about a boy showered with "foaming seed": "While the other in his orgasm receives the waters." "Let it be no sin to us to have buggered the virle bum." "While the priest thrusts his thyrsus between boyish buttocks, All is accomplished; come Holy Dove!" ... "may we always have a penis Both stiff and shooting semen from its rosy mouth."

>> No.15962999

>>15962996
Neetchee is peak cringe m8

>> No.15963021

>>15962977
Crowley says simply in his Confessions that what took place amounted to a final tearing away of "certain conceptions of conduct which, while perfectly proper from the standpoint of my human nature," he had regarded as "impertinent to initiation." What happened in prosaic terms was that Crowley was sodomized by his desert guide Neuburg in a sexual rite offered to the god Pan. Pan, the man-goat, had a particular significance for the two men. Not only did Crowley revere him as the diabolical god of lust and magic, but Neuburg literally had what acquaintances described as an elfin and "faun-like" appearance. It is likely that what happened on Mount Da'leh Addin was a classic invocation; the young chela, in accordance with accepted magical technique, probably "called down," or invoked, the god Pan. A successful invocation would result in the neophyte's becoming "inflamed" by the power of the god. If this is what happened during the ceremony on the mountain, Neuburg, in his magical capacity, would momentarily identify with all that the man-goat god represented. Put simply, Neuburg with his tufted "horns" would become Pan—the "faun-like" yet savage lover of Crowley's psychosexual world. This may well have been the first time that Crowley (and certainly Neuburg) had performed a magical homosexual act, although Crowley quickly came to believe that sex magic was an unrivaled means to great power. Conversely, the image of Pan was to haunt Victor Neuburg for the rest of his life. It inspired some of his best early poetry, but later filled him with dread. The experience was overwhelming for both men, but it temporarily devastated Crowley. His summation was brief. "There was an animal in the wilderness," he writes, "but it was not I."

Crowley remembered nothing of his return to Bou Saada. As he slowly came to himself, however, he knew that he was changed.

I knew who I was and all the events of my life; but I no longer made myself the centre of their sphere.…I did not exist.…All things were alike as shadows sweeping across the still surface of a lake—their images had no meaning for the water, no power to stir its silence.
Crowley felt that he had ceremonially crossed the Abyss—a term reminiscent of Nietzsche (whom Crowley greatly admired), but denoting the last terrible journey that a magician must make before he could justifiably lay claim to the highest levels of Adeptship. Master of the Temple, a grade of enlightened initiation achieved in Crowley's own Magical Order only after crossing the Abyss, meant renunciation of all that life mea

>> No.15963026

>>15962923
>So we say people are valid, and we accept others as a way to demonstrate that you do not see their existence as wrong or unnatural, and that you do not believe it is your right to give or withdraw permission for others to exist

But the exact moment "we" say they're valid, we're already giving them permission to be valid. They should KNOW they're valid from the get-go. The moment we say they're valid they should tell us they didnt need our permission to be valid in the first place

>> No.15963046

>>15963026
I typically don’t speak on behalf of people

>> No.15963049
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15963049

>>15962923
Based

>> No.15963053

>>15962996
Wow are you this cringey in real life?

>> No.15963059

>>15963046
you might think you dont, but from the other persons perspective you always symbolize something (society, friendship, etc)
You're always speaking on behalf of a bigger group, even when you dont think about it. The more insecure the other person is, the larger the group you're speaking on behalf of

>> No.15963060

>>15962923
White nationalists and nazis should certainly not be tolerated.

>> No.15963062

>>15963053
Seethe

>> No.15963064

>>15963049
That quote is idiotic.

>> No.15963067

>>15963059
No I mean I don’t typically write out sentences like this
> The moment we say they're valid they should tell us they didnt need our permission to be valid in the first place
because I typically don’t like speaking on behalf of others. I would also feel super embarrassed because what you wrote is really lame and gay

>> No.15963070

>>15963064
You have to 16 to post here

>> No.15963076

>>15963070
>t. has never read the new testament

>> No.15963077

Because currently the majority of a generation is clinging to a childrens book. Some of them just happen to be trannies.

>> No.15963079

>>15963060
You wanna suck hitlers cock admit it
Slurp slurp gulp sniff gag lick spit stroke kiss

>> No.15963082

>>15963079
>projecting this hard

>> No.15963085

>>15963062
I am. That was so fucking cringey

>> No.15963089

>>15963076
>the archbishop has never read the New Testament
Ok nigger

>> No.15963093

>>15963089
Catholics don't read the bible.

>> No.15963099

>>15963082
>this hard
>project
I like where you’re heads at ;)

>> No.15963103

>>15963093
k

>> No.15963142

>>15963067
You're missing the point faggot

>> No.15963153

>>15963067
Are you retarded? Giving advice on how people should behave is different from speaking on behalf of other people lmao

>> No.15963174

I'm extremely intolerant
Everybody who isn't me is cringe

>> No.15963175

>>15963142
>>15963153
You are embarrassingly stupid

>> No.15963182

>>15963175
>still missing the point

Kys

>> No.15963184

>>15963182
Stop embarrassing yourself. It’s not even funny it’s just kinda like, dam.

>> No.15963478

>>15963184
>kinda like, dam

What is this reddit lingo? Absolute cringe

>> No.15963489

>>15962635
why do weak betas cling to an idealization of _The West_ that would clearly despise them had it ever actually existed

>> No.15963494

>>15962643
based

>> No.15963528

>>15963026
if i told you that your statement was true, would that make it more true? if it does, what does that imply about your statement? is this the kind of truth that you would risk your life for? is it just as true as any other statement considered true, like warnings about not touching a hot iron?

>> No.15963534
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>>15962866
Because they're the most outspoken trannies. If you look at the history of trannies female-to-male was the most common for years. Male-to-female trannies took off around the same time it started to become more of a mainstream issue.
I have a strong intuition that the strongest impact on trannies is wanting to become an idealised gender. When men ruled the roost it was ridiculously weighted towards ftm. Now that being a man (especially a white man) is repeatedly portrayed as something to be ashamed of you have people swinging the other way (especially whites).

>>15962635
Do you think any wizards looked in that mirror and saw themselves doing two chicks at the same time?

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>>15963528
>if i told you that your statement was true, would that make it more true?

No, because only god determines what is true, you definetly don't

>> No.15963542

>>15962923
>that you do not believe it is your right to give or withdraw permission for others to exist
Why would I give away this right? I do decide who may live at my side and who is to be cast out. Tolerance and withheld contempt is all you get.

>> No.15963543

>>15963542
BASED

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>>15962920
>critical theory

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>>15962648
I notice nobody has tried to refute this one.

>> No.15963770

>>15963542
Based aristocrat

>> No.15963780

>>15963489
Spot on. Trannies are just Furries whose fursonas are human women. They couldn't get the QT3.14AVVVVVGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGAZNGF;_; so they became her.

>>15963534
Trannies weren't a thing until very recently, dude. There never was an FTM, and there still isn't now (FTM is basically statistical noise it's so rare). The metaphysics of how Trannyism works would have been scoffed at until like, the 1970s (the 1920s in Weimar Germany, but a certain Austrian Painter put a stop to that). If you want to go back further, the Eunuch Reponse hasn't really been a thing since Rome (Byzantium kept this going until 1450, however), so we're looking at a solid 1600 years of reification of actual masculinity and femininity in the West. That's a pretty fucking good track record.

>> No.15963783

What does "you're valid" even mean? What would "you're invalid" mean? Why are trannies so obsessed with "people deny our existence" when no one does such a thing and people only reject the notion that society has to be coerced to play along with their LARPing fetishism?

I'm never going to deny that man in a dress exists, I'm just not going to say anything other than he is a man in a dress. He's validly a man in a dress.

>> No.15963834

>>15963783
Because it's about Power. A Tranny is a eunuch, and they sacrifice their masculinity and humanity in return for Privileges and Pleasures. These are Power. Their desires and wishes are valid, yours are not. If a Tranny wants to flash children in a library, that's okay, in fact it's Beautiful and Wonderful and Diverse. If you want a family, that's heinous and ugly. Why? Because the former supports Capitalism, and the latter doesn't.

>> No.15963973

>>15962635
Because they are mentally ill. It's not that hard to figure out anon.

>> No.15964321

>>15963489
/thread

>> No.15964324

>>15962648
Good point, that anon...

>> No.15964341

>>15962635
>despises
Wrong word for simply calling a spade a spade. It does not help mentally ill people to act as if their delusions are reality, rather they have to learn that their delusions ARE delusions: men cannot become girls, girls cannot become men.

>> No.15964350

>it's always MTF

>> No.15964371

>>15963834
>Capitalism
It would be nice to trace all this to "Capitalism" but really, reducing the complexity of our system of production and support down to one thing, money, is really a childish, Marxist idea. It has nothing to do with capitalism per se, but rather with forces that want to subvert our society so as to control it more easily.

>> No.15964391

>>15962904
To the gas chamber.

>> No.15964676

>>15964371
>subvert
There's nothing to subvert. This is always how Liberalism was going to turn out. Jews just turned out to be better at Liberalism than Anglos.

>> No.15964987

If you give a shit about it that's your problem.

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>>15964371
It's liberalism, of which capitalism is just a consequence. Or even better, it's gnosticism, of which liberalism is just a consequence.

Trannies are an inherently semi-gnostic concept. They hate their body and want to be free from it to become the true selves the demiurge wanted to keep them from being.

>> No.15966025

>>15964391
based

>> No.15966151

>>15964371
But the continued promotion of trannies is explicitly because they are the ultimate consumers. Their very abomination of an existence requires drugs they cannot afford, pounds of makeup and skin products, expensive body modifications, new clothes to reinvent themselves, and possibly the most capitalistic thing of all, the constant need to validate themselves as not being crimes against nature, and to that end, they scream on twitter all day and consume ads. Their existence can only be supported in a very rich society because they are such net drains on everything around them, from material goods to the mental energy of everyone in its vicinity, distraught of seeing such lovecraftian horror, that in a marxist society they'd immediately be executed as to not further burden the working class more than they have to.

>> No.15966261

>>15962635
You know I'm going to be honest here, I don't mind the harry potter books. Sure they aren't top tier deep literature but they aren't supposed to be. They're just supposed to be fun young adult novels, and they do that quite effectively. They themes they tackle or simple and decently done at a level a young adult can understand. I don't understand why people (outside of trannies.) hate harry potter.

>> No.15966268

>>15966261
The themes they tackle are*

>> No.15966339

>>15966268
Its not a "hate" of harry potter, its realizing that it is children's stories and they don't have any more literary merit discussing than Peter Rabbit. /lit/ doesn't care to discuss them because there's nothing worth discussing. Doesn't mean they're not entertaining or comfy. Likewise the reason so many redditors are attached to it is because its so infantile and makes them feel safe.

>> No.15966447

>>15963783
>What does "you're valid" even mean?
Ironically, it means "you don't need validation from others"

>> No.15966520

>>15965020
I was just about to disagree with your comment about the demiurge because they believe that their creator wants them to be happy, but then yeah, no shit, the demiurge isn't the creator, the demiurge is Whiteness (or whatever).

Good eye, anon.

>>15966151
They literally have to consume product in order to survive. If they stop dilating, dressing up, brainwashing children, and taking hormones, all of which they can only do by buying goods, they literally die. Their former name was their "Deadname", so when they're forced to return to it, they literally become that which is dead.

>> No.15966560

>>15962635
Imagine being so narcissistic that you see absolutely nothing but yourself in the mirror showing your greatest desires.

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>>15962904
>What is /lit/'s official stance on trannies?

>> No.15966595

>>15962904
We don't even think about them.
Who cares what some fetish addicted freakshow is doing.

>> No.15966665

>>15962635
test

>> No.15966756

>>15966595
Amen

>> No.15966781

>>15962643
Man you are really plugging this book everywhere. What is it even about?

>> No.15966815

>>15966781
It's about the synthesis of the objective and subjective.

>> No.15966826

>>15966595
>don't even think about them.
>fetish addicted freakshow
those are some strong opinions about a demographic you claim not to think about

>> No.15966969

>>15962635
Bcuz Harry Pooper fans don’t think about that stuff and just mindlessly make and/or consume Harry Pooper maymays

>> No.15967025

>>15963026
They aren't valid though

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>>15966826
>those are some strong opinions about a demographic you claim not to think about
It doesn't take much thought to spot a freak when one sees a freak. Keep coping though.

>> No.15967627

>>15962815
Are you saying Nietzsche would be able to answer the question?

>> No.15968587

>>15962815
Nietzsche is simultaneously /ourguy/ and he also says some retarded, still based though.

>> No.15968593

Trannies are a legitimately misogynistic caricature of women. They're a goddamn parody and they do it to themselves. I do think this might be less of a problem is gender roles weren't so strict.

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>>15963780
>There never was an FTM
The fuck are you talking about. This absolute chad would like a word with you.
Though it comes back to what I was saying about trannies being the pursuit of the 'ideal' gender. In order to live the way he wanted to James had to live as a man. Would he/she still have done the same if they were born 30 years ago? Maybe, probably not though, they would have just been a female doctor.

>> No.15969294

>>15962635
They've never read any other books, so they have nothing else to switch to. This is despite people saying that the Harry Potter books would lead to more readers. Instead the biggest fans just kept on reading those same books into adulthood, and now that they disagree with - maybe even hate - the writer, they still can't give them up.

>> No.15969754

>>15964350
Yes, it generally is. FTMs are a completely different phenomenon from MTFs and have different causes. The former are generally autistic girls who hate their being a woman due to some abuse or whatever they suffered; the later are generally men who want to get off wearing dresses and fucking lesbians.

>> No.15969892

>>15969754
Internet posts truly encapsulate the entire world and every single person in it. It's trivial to devine the intentions of anyone, just consume enough cherrypicked screenshots and you'll obtain incredible worldly knowledge. Never put critical thought into anything with this one simple trick! You fucking shitforbrains mongoloid

>> No.15969962

>>15963780
Anecdotally, I worked with 5 different trans people at my last job who were all female to male. I'm still confused about how that possibly happened in a town of ~7000

>> No.15971681

>>15969892
You will never be a real human.

>> No.15972441

>>15966826
Retard

>> No.15973048

>>15962847
suck them off, they'll appreciate it.

>> No.15973077

>>15962904
They are mentally ill and should be rehabilitated, people who encourage the illness should be harshly punished.

>> No.15973083

>>15962904
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and should be treated as a mental illness. You do not tell a schizo that their world view is correct. You give them medicine and make them normal. Allowing a man to "become" a woman because they THINK they are a woman does not cure them of their disease, it only allows them to become a victim of their disease. You give them medicine to help them become more masculine and overcome their illness. I feel bad for trannies if anything, I don't hate them, although the way a lot of them behave and look does disgust me.