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How am I supposed to enjoy reading after 6 years of heroin addiction?
How am I supposed to enjoy anything?

>> No.16077533

>>16077516
Not sure. I imagine your mind and body are exhausted and unable to feel anything, really.

>> No.16077542

>>16077516
By the way, the Jew fears the indoor fish farmer.

>> No.16077545

>>16077516
why would you stop you dumb pussy? Stop conforming to all the faggotry around you robot.

>> No.16077556

What happens after prolonged heroin usage? Can you not feel joy in other activities?

>> No.16077557

>>16077516
how the fuck do you even get clean after 6 years of injecting yourself with super strength painkillers.

I dunno anon but dont read, go to the park take a walk or something sitting in a room reading a book wont help you enjoy anything

>> No.16077561

>>16077516
You already fucked up by injecting yourself with that nigger tier drug 6 years ago.

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>>16077516
Hey man. I wish you well.

>> No.16077587

Omg Heroin is so fucking dope

>> No.16077594

>>16077516

Sitting still isn't going to cut it for a heroin addict. Try getting really into exercise, it's the one thing that's actually a decent replacement.
You'll become an obsessed addict again but at least this time you'll be able to post progress pics on Instagram.
Maybe after that try reading during recovery time.

>> No.16077615

>inb4 someone who has never struggled with addiction recommends Naked Lunch
Try Liveblog

>> No.16077627

>>16077615
>using a heroin addict sincerely asking for help as an opportunity to shill that shit book for your one-man meme

shameless.

>> No.16077628

>>16077516
Tell me how am I supposed to live without you
Now that I've been loving you so long
How am I supposed to live without you
And how am I supposed to carry on
When all that I've been livin' for is gone

>> No.16077633

You can enjoy things again. You just have to resensitize yourself to normal stimulus. I'm a neuroscientist and I can tell you there's no reason to think it's not possible to reset your brain's reward system. I'd recommend practicing mindfulness, and some basic vipassana meditation. They'll feel like slow boring nothing at first, but that's how any activity will feel until you allow your dopamine receptors time to heal. Prayer is also good for that if meditation isn't your style. Any kind of activity where you're focused on very minute stimulus is good. It'll just take time. But as you get better, activities that require being more sensitive to low stimulus, like reading, will come easier to you.

Good luck brother. Genuinely proud of you for trying to kick it and improve yourself.

>> No.16077634

It's not even the fact that it doesn't live up to the high.
It's the fact that after 6 years of not using my brain I suddenly have to use it again. Can you ever get your brain able to truly concentrate and think again?

>> No.16077637

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beINamVRGy4

watch this video every single day

>> No.16077642

>>16077627
>one-man meme
it's at LEAST a two man meme

>> No.16077644
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>>16077556
All kinds of crap. Basically it deep fries it and breads it with cement.

>> No.16077648

>>16077633
Look at this shit OP. Why would you ever want to do this over h? Normalfaggots are just robots. They sit there and do randoms stretches (yoga) pray like a fucktard or sit on twitter. You will die regardless in the end so in have fun.

>> No.16077663

>>16077516
My brother was a functioning meth addict for three years, then a non-functioning addict for two, cleaned up for a year, got into heroin, and was toast for four.

He's clean now, but his habits have really changed.
>no longer draws, even though he could easily do it professionally
>no longer reads
>no longer plays video games

I think he's really only happy when he's getting the adrenaline rush of downhill mountain biking or snowboarding nowadays. So for him at least, the adrenaline rush of extreme sports is enough to have something to look forward to.

>> No.16077672

>>16077633
What do you think of TM/acem meditation? Could you share your thoughts on meditation in general and its neuroscientific side?

>> No.16077682

>>16077644
yea my brother has been a heroin addict since he was 21, he's turning 31 soon. he laterally switched to several anti-psychotic drugs, still takes suboxone, and STILL shoots up on the sly. He's fucked. hope you find something pal

>> No.16077685

>>16077633
You might just be a random noone but... ive been having a hardtime sleeping at night for a month and due to quarantine and have mostly been sleeping at day. im really scared im braindamaged because of not sleeping at night how do I fix it :(

>> No.16077848

>>16077672
I don't really know enough about TM to speak with any real authority -- but from what I've seen, I don't see any reason it wouldn't be effective. There's copious amounts of emerging research on the effectiveness of meditation, and so far it has fit every emergent model of neuronal organization pretty closely. I'd recommend looking into theories about mind modularity. The article from Stanford's Encyclopedia of Philosophy is a solid place to start.
>>16077685
You're not brain-damaged brother, don't worry. I myself got on a schedule of sleeping only every other day for a couple months and I was fine once I fixed it. The time that you go to bed isn't very important, what matters for fixing your sleep schedule is waking up at the same time every day. Entrainment (syncing up your circadian clock to the external clock) happens best when you force yourself to consistently wake up in the morning when the sun is out, like 8am-9am. The first few days you'll be feeling really tired but don't let yourself take a nap or wake up any later. Even if you got 1 hour or no sleep at all that night, do not sleep past your designated wake up time. Within a week you'll be all better.

If it's very severe, I can personally recommend eszopiclone to force yourself asleep. If you use it for a week with the same method of waking up consistently that I mentioned earlier, it'll be fixed. Absolutely don't take it longer than a week though, and avoid other prescrption sleep aids. Especially zolpidem.

>> No.16077855

>>16077685
Forgot to mention, when you wake up in the morning allow yourself to see sunlight within the first few minutes. Just put your face in the window for a minute or two. Blackout curtains and quarantine have probably fucked up a lot of people's photoentrainment.

>> No.16077924

>>16077848
Damm you seem to know what youre talking about, based neuroscientist anon browsing /lit/ helping anons out.Thanks man ill take your advice to heart, hopefully itll help more than the psuedoscience advice id been getting.

>> No.16077931

>>16077924
>Damm you seem to know
How does he seem to know? He hasn't back anything which he has said. Stop being such a fucking drone

>> No.16077934

>>16077516
The most prolific reader I know was an addict for twenty years or more. Get good.

>> No.16077936

>>16077931
i dunno man im fucking tired and stoned

>> No.16077942

>>16077516
It takes time, but you will get there. Find something to replace the structure that using created in your life.

>> No.16077946

>>16077516
You are probably really tense. Unironically get a massage or take a hot bath to relax your muscles. Then read. Reading in the bath is not as much of a meme as you think it is.

>> No.16077961

>>16077931
Feel free to challenge me on anything I said bud. I'm not trying to be an authority figure, just a guy trying to help out with the background I have. I come here like once a month to schizopost with no mention of my background, but OP's post got to me and I figured I could give some advice.

>> No.16078162

>>16077961
>Feel free to challenge me on anything I said bud
If you can't provide sources no one should listen to you, retard. Feel free to black everything you said in that post, I'll wait. Start posting the links.

>> No.16078165

>>16077961
>if you don't challenge me than what i say is true
This OP is why you should not listen to this retard with this grade school-tier logic

>> No.16078246

>>16078162
>>16078165
lol alright my man, sorry you got offended that someone took advice from someone other than you. Anyone struggling is free to take or leave the advice at will, regardless of your redditor-"source"-fetishism. The worst case scenario of me being wrong is someone trying to kick heroin sits down and introspects for a few minutes.

>> No.16078249

>>16077516
How are you even alive?

>> No.16078606
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>>16078246
holy based

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>>16077516
Give it plenty of time. My addiction was only 2 years, but it eventually got better, and I'm sure it will for you too.
And unironically, you need to start lifting and performing strenuous exercise. It teaches your nervous system to respond normally to neurotransmitters again, especially endorphins. Further, if you're male, you've suppressed your testosterone for 6 years. Lifting will help change that. Combine it with this advice >>16077633.
Read this book, or look up the programme. Go to /fit/, they're cool guys and most are helpful in the QTDDTOT.

>> No.16078697

>>16078639
Nofap might be a sollution as well, if he doesnt enjoy life and celibacy enhanced the enjoyment of life and of music, then a long period of celebacy might repair some of the damage.

>> No.16078740
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16078740

Ask this guy

>> No.16078751

Do a week long water soluble micro nutrients fast (including EAAs)

>> No.16078773

>>16077633
Citicoline encourages dopamine receptor growth.
250mg a day should do it, but be aware it tends to make for an introspective, somewhat inflexible state of mind. Great for study.

It's a combination of choline and uridine, which are found in food, it's just a concentrated dose of those nutrients. As such, it's not a drug so much as a nutraceutical, like a caffeine supplement.

>> No.16078774

>>16077855
While this is true, most of u live in the cities, where light polution fucks up your circadian rhythm far more than black out curtains. The later should be opened the moment your clock ticks, ideally you use a sun-light wacking system. Sleeping in a semi-dimmed envoirment (light polution from the window is even worse).

>> No.16078781

>>16078773
Which foods would you recommend? Are those components heat stable?

>> No.16078782

>>16078773
(I got distracted from normal human communication, but I was trying to say it might help with meditation.)

>> No.16078800

>>16078781
The uridine component is mostly found in brewer's yeast, so it's not really practical to get it in useful quantities from food. Choline is extremely common: eggs and fish have just as much as citicoline and usually more. Green tea contains both caffeine and theanine, a stimulant and a GABAergic, so it tends to create a mood of calm focus; that'd be similar to the citicoline mood, though less strong.

Cutting "food stimulants" like sugar out of your diet can only be beneficial.

>> No.16078847

>>16078781
...And kind of, to answer your second question. There's less choline in cooked eggs than raw, but not a crazy amount less. You'd have to eat half a kilo of tomatoes to get a clinical dose of uridine, so I haven't investigated how cooking effects it.

Also, I simplified things slightly. Citicoline has cytidine as a component, which is swiftly converted to uridine by digestion. I think both forms are found in the same foods.

I've been using citicoline on and off for NoFap, and at the very least my relapses under its influence tend to be more vanilla. It sort of restores your previous interests that you had gotten bored with, to a degree. But it doesn't do all the work.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24950234/

>> No.16080153

>>16078697
>nofap will fix your problems
You people are actually retarded, you just jump from one pitfall into another

>> No.16080167

>>16080153
>not masturbating is as bad as being addicted to heroin
t. coomer

>> No.16080187

>>16078246
You fucking idiot! Introspection is what makes people leave the hive. You have NO IDEA the damage that could do to both anon and Our Democracy.

>> No.16080397

>>16078800
>>16078847
Thanks, sounds like my diet already. Raw egg yolks and brewers yeast on neary every dinner meal. Cutting all sugars has ben also very beneficial already. Caffeine isn't my thing, but if at all green and lack tea would be preferably.

>> No.16080498

This, but after 10 years of porn and masterbation addiction which, as well all know, is objectively worse than a petty heroin addiction.

>> No.16080525

>>16080498
I don't know if that's the case, but specifically being ruined for normal sexual relationship is just fucked beyond description
I've given away sex in exchange for porn, I've numbed myself for years and years

>> No.16080552

>>16077516

Should have thought about that before you fucked up

>> No.16082080

>>16080498
>This, but after 10 years of porn and masterbation addiction which, as well all know, is objectively worse than a petty heroin addiction.
wtf seriously? im 18 and been looking at porn since i was 12. am i fucked? i stopped 5 days ago

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>>16077542
this

>> No.16083209

>>16082080
Its over, your dopamine receptors are deep fried by now

>> No.16083256

>>16077648
I really really doubt he's had much fun
None of this "healthy living" shit is supposed to be rewarding, it's supposed to fend off suffering

>> No.16083325

>>16077516
Just go back in time and tell your younger self to never smoke heroin.

>> No.16083490

>>16080167
The typical kind of dogmatic retort of a zealot. How are your nofap gains coming along, have you miraculously become the genius overman you have deluded yourself into thinking you'll become? The quality of greatness is so much more than just your mindless abstinence from masturbation because your subreddit or mentally ill Peruvian fitness board told you it has been the secret ingredient to every 'great' of history. I'm not a coomer, but you type of people have to be the greatest copers, do you people really think that abstinence will improve any of the initial faults and reasons you relied upon masturbation in the first place? I'm being sincere when I say I truly feel sorry for you, you've merely swapped one cope for another.

>> No.16083552

>>16083209
seriously? is there anything i can do?

>> No.16084015

>>16077516
The jew fears the indoor fish farmer

>> No.16084206

>>16077516
Do a long term water only fast. Like 30 days.

>> No.16084365

>>16083552
Don't listen to him, just stop watching porn. After several weeks without masturbating or watching porn, you will not even think about it that much, and your subconscious will be cleaner.

The subconscious is the biggest victim of porn consumption. When you dream at night while asleep, you can sometimes recall vividly some face, or scene, or memory which took place two decades ago, despite this memory or scene etc being vague to you when you are awake. That is because it is stored in your subconscious, which is only accessible while asleep or to those who are somehow adept at self-analysis. The point is that you do not want to be flooding your subconscious with hours upon hours of imagery which is violent in nature, degrading, and really quite sick. It will corrupt your conscience, rot away at your self-esteem, and taint all those other memories which are stored in your subconscious.

>>16084206
Just a warning to anybody who is thinking of doing this: make sure to plan beforehand. I only consumed water for about 11 days earlier this year (while smoking 20 cigarettes a day) and I still find myself becoming light-headed etc when I get up suddenly, and even fainted recently after two or three days without eating.

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>>16084365
>The point is that you do not want to be flooding your subconscious with hours upon hours of imagery which is violent in nature, degrading, and really quite sick. It will corrupt your conscience, rot away at your self-esteem, and taint all those other memories which are stored in your subconscious.
>have been watching bestgore liveleak and worldstarhiphop for years
y-youre kidding right?

>> No.16084678

>>16083490
Got him

>> No.16084728

>>16084635
i reached the bottom of the porn rabbithole and i have reason to suspect that i am in the early stages of schizophrenia so i am inclined to believe him

>> No.16085383

>>16077516
>How am I supposed to enjoy anything?
should try heroin

>> No.16085427

>>16077516
Why are there fish in that bath?

>> No.16085456

>>16077682
>hope you find something pal
You have me misconstrued. I've never taken heroin in my life. I'm just interested in brain chemistry.

>> No.16085823

>>16082281
comfy boi

>> No.16087290

>>16077516
Good time to start with stoicism. In your apathy, you'll find it super easy to get into and before you'll notice you will be a true stoic Sage.