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16293822 No.16293822 [Reply] [Original]

Im writing a story about medieval a female general whose commanding armies. planning tactics and doing amazing shit. Problem is I'm starting to doubt the realism of a woman doing all this. Is there any precent for a woman like this. Shouting armies. Making demands. Firing and cussing people.

>> No.16293898

>>16293822
Joan of arc right? Also there are some folklore warrior queens in most European countries all the way back to Artemis and shit

>> No.16293906

>>16293822
give her advisors, generals. she doesnt need to come up with all tactics and strategies, all great conquerors had experienced advisors

>> No.16293914

>>16293898
This, there is also Boudica:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica

OP really seems to underestimate what a driven general can do even as a woman.

>> No.16294221

>>16293914
Imagine believing Joan Of Arcs story to be true

>> No.16294246

>>16293822
Nice cupid's bow.

>> No.16294249

>>16294221
>Anglo posting.
She was a schizo and probably didn’t kill too many, but she’s realer than Arthur

>> No.16294343
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16294343

>commanding
>planning
>doing
>woman

>> No.16294353

>>16294221
>>16294249
Was Joan the original French tranny?

>> No.16294368

>>16294353
She may have been homosexual. Likely have been a nun in peacetime.
But sadly raped by Anglo guards

>> No.16294379

>>16294368
Brits are dicks.

>> No.16294386

>>16294221
Imagine thinking one of the most studied historical figure dindu nuthing because you can't read French.

>> No.16294394

>>16294353
Only if you can't think past 4chan meme, so in your case yes.

>> No.16294403
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>>16294394
the joke is on you my friend for i was only pretending to be mentally retarded.

>> No.16294460

>>16293914
Boudica is a prime example of a leader making sure as many of their own people are killed in an as short amount of time possible.
Boudica is a warning never to let a woman be a leader rather than a good example of a female leader.

>> No.16294473

>>16293822
I want to chew through your neck and gnaw on your spine.

>> No.16294535

>>16293822
you dumb motherfucker
want to write a medieval story and didn't do even a lick of research
go fuck yourself.

>> No.16294598

>>16294460
What about Deborah?

>> No.16294630

>>16294598
Not historical.

>> No.16294695

>>16293822
women never lead fighting men, because women don't fight. They don't endure hardship so it is hard for them to preach that to the fighting men. Also medieval fighting men had a code of honor. Women just do what they feel and always feel they are in the right.

>> No.16294707

>>16294630
Heresy. You can't do Debbie dirty like that.

>> No.16294721

Am I the only one who noticed that the OP literally can't spell?

>> No.16294724

>>16293914
Boudica literally shit the bed and got her people massacred

>> No.16294725

>>16294695
Trump is right: "fighting men" are suckers. Instead of going to war, the smart play is to stay home and get laid.

>> No.16294752

Maybe she could be a symbol ala Joan but it's highly doubtful that she could genuinely hold such power independently
Mind you to this day, nobody really uses women in their army for anything involving actual combat
>>16293898
Joan of Arc contributions were entirely symbolical
Her strategy was always to charge at the enemy and it was correct only once by accident

>> No.16294880

>>16294394
Pea brainers. Yes there is precedent for women running countries/militaries but it’s a fucking fantasy story so who gives a shit. Also imagine thinking it isn’t possible for a woman to ‘fire and cuss people.’ Of course what you’re writing is fantasy cause clearly you’ve never spent a fucking day in reality. Doesn’t know women who make demands headass.....

>> No.16295001

>>16294368
Supposing some homosexuality is entirely baseless, as are claims that she was raped. She also seemed to prefer the idea of settling down to becoming a nun, but neither was her calling anyways.
>>16294752
Providing a figurehead was a significant change to the situation.

>> No.16295044

>>16294403
Have to admit you got me.

>>16294460
>Boudica is a prime example of a leader making sure as many of their own people are killed in an as short amount of time possible.
Seems like a typical WW1 general.

>>16294724
See above. OP didn't ask about the consequences of going to war, if that were the case we'd have to conclude Napoleon and Alexander were bad generals.

>>16294752
Joan of Arc was actually a pioneer in the use of artillery, which was a new thing at the time. She had a uncannily good eye for positions and trajectories.

Also
>symbolical
do you realize how important symbols were in that war? It was almost an English victory until the French suddenly gathered their shit and fought back. Symbols are life-savers in those situations.

>>16294880
Reread the OP. He is asking about whether the premise is realistic when there are actual historical examples. And then you come complaining that we shouldn't care about realism. I think you're simply in the wrong thread, and that you are answering to the wrong post to boot.

>> No.16295325

>>16294386
Imagine believing a teenage girl jumped out of a tower and survived the impact.

>> No.16295428

>>16293822
Yes, there are a few women who commanded armies in Indian history. Velu Nachiyar and Mangammal are the two queens that I can remember off the top of my head. Indian history isn't my forte, but you'll be able to find a decent amount of material due to the overzealous HIndus that push these women as symbols of India's progressivism (even though both faced obstacles in their time due to gender).

>> No.16295683

>>16295044
>Symbols are life-savers in those situations.
Yep. Same thing happened when Caesar was running amok through Gaul. He was in some deep shit a few times and his fighting on the front lines alongside his soldiers was what gave them the fortitude to win.

>> No.16295689

>>16295325
women can be strong too ya know