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How old were you when you stopped believing the stratfordian grain merchant con?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s0cJ60ulnc

>> No.16398093

Remider that Shakespeare was through and through German.

>> No.16398220

>>16398086
Let's go through the major candidates shall we?
>De Vere
One of the biggest stretches in logic I've ever read. It's a bunch of people trying their hardest to interpret some of Shakespeare's writing as "connected" to De Vere. It's about as believable as Lewis Carroll being Jack The Ripper.
>Marlowe
While the circumstances surrounding his death are fishy, the styles of Marlowe and Shakespeare are distinctly different. Any similarity can be summed up as inspiration.
>Francis Bacon
It's basically De Vere except it has the graciousness of its subject actually being a popular patron of the arts.
>Derby
The most believable of them all and even then its still a bunch of people taking historical bits and trying to make something out of nothing.

In short, nothing gives credence that any of these people were just faking Shakespeare. Shakepeare was a real person and that's final

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>>16398093
Ich weiß nicht warum ihr Deutschen Shakespeare übernehmen willt, wenn ihr Goethe, wer im Grunde sehr ähnlich zu Shakespeare und fast als gut ist, schon habt. Ich kann akzeptieren, dass Shakespeare und seine Werke einen etwas deutschen Charakter haben, aber bitte aneignet euch nicht die Herkunft unseres einzelnen Schatzes und das einzelne Ding, auf dem wir in dieser beschissenen Nation stolz sein können.

>> No.16398417

School of the Night

>> No.16398430

>>16398220
>stratford internet defense force right on schedule
In reality the evidence clearly points to Edward de Vere's authorship. If Shakespeare had in fact written the canon so often misattributed to him, he would surely have continued its tradition reveling in the majesty of natural phenomena and mentioned the historic supernova visible even to the naked eye at midday for many weeks in October 1604, and yet no such reference exists, even in passing, for how could it: de Vere was already deceased some 4 months prior to the star's own death!

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>>16398430
>He didn't bring up this one event before he died that MUST mean he was De Vere!

>> No.16398821

>>16398416
Kek I'm not even German. Anyone who has read Shakespeare and been to Germany/read German lit could easily tell he was German.

>> No.16398860

I just can’t believe an aristocrat would work that hard

>> No.16398875

is a thread this fucking based even allowed on /lit/? It's about time these fucking stratfordians get a taste of the real (W)ilium/WILL-I-AM Shaker-of-Spears, 17th earl of Oxford Edward de Vere

>> No.16398884

>>16398875
>watched an a*glo propaganda film
>all of a sudden WOKE
ngmi

>> No.16398902

>>16398884
>watched months of erudite decryption of some of the greatest hermeneutic puzzles of the victorian era that were hidden by some of the greatest minds this world has ever seen like John fucking Dee
uh yeah based actually

>> No.16399268

>>16398430
I don't know what's worse, sedevacantists, or starry Veres.

>> No.16399277

>>16398093
>ANGLO-SAXON man was Germanic
Wow, what a discovery

>> No.16399289

>De Vere died in 1604
>the tempest wasn’t written until at least 5 years later
OHNONONONONO! We got too cocky Oxford-bros!

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Just gonna leave this here

>> No.16399358

>>16398902
Cervantes used Shakespeare as a nom de plume so that he wouldn't ignite the rage of the Spanish inquisition

>> No.16399402

>>16399348
You can make the same conclusions for anybody else by doing what Nevillean theorists do.

>> No.16399415

>>16398086
When I found falstaffe's twitter bless his soul

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16399522

>Whoever wrote Shakespeare's plays was an obvious crypto-Catholic
>The only Anglo pope to ever live was named Breakspeare

>> No.16399690

>>16399522
Was William taken from the Conqueror?

>> No.16400483

>>16398086
Shakespeare plays are comfy. That's all I care about.

>> No.16401239

>>16400483
Nothing comfier than sitting in bed with a warm mug of cocoa on a cold snowy day snuggling under a blanket with my heavily-dog-earred copy of Titus Andronicus

>> No.16401343

>>16398086
Shakespeare was Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford. This should be common knowledge by now. I saw a documentary about it on Amazon Prime.

>> No.16401441

>>16398093
Reminder that German literature established itself as the true successor to the Greeks and that the Balkan-Turks who identify themselves with Ancient Greek culture are desperate LARPers.

>> No.16401804

>>16399289
Ah yes, The Tempest, a play, we're told by the erudite Stratfordists, which was inspired by a private correspondence not published until 1625, nearly a decade after Shakespeare's own death! It would appear not even Shakespeare could have written himself.

>> No.16402227

>>16398902
lol you'll believe anything won't you

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>>16401804
What is this post even trying to say

>> No.16402264

>>16402227
>he believes an illiterate grain merchant wrote hamlet

>> No.16403335

>>16402247
The chronology of many of Shakespeare's plays are merely estimates, usually based on their earliest recorded performance or their seeming references to historic events.

>> No.16403442

>>16401804
He couldn't possibly had access to it before it was published? Like the person who first mentioned his sonnets like a decade before *they* were published?

>> No.16403448

>>16402264
He learned to read and write in the Stratford school.

>> No.16403454

>>16398086
Bullshit.

>> No.16403460

>>16398093
>he still believes Shakespeare was anyone but Cervantes

>> No.16403461

>>16398430
Bullshit.

>> No.16403518

>>16398086
>stratfordian
In the eternal words of marky mark: can you think of any human being that for any reason wouldn’t want to put his name on hamlet?

>> No.16403630

Thomas Pynchon wrote all the comedies, William Gaddis wrote all the histories, they split the tragedies, and Stephen Daedalus was a real person who wrote Hamlet in an ethereal trance state outside of time after Joyce trapped his soul in his writing.

>> No.16403635

>>16403448
yet he owned not a single book

>>16403518
he was a very controversial figure in his time especially in regards to the furthering of his lineage (see: henry wriothesley and penelope rich)

>> No.16403650

>>16399522
>>16399690
Where do all these depictions come from then?

>> No.16403654

>>16403635
>yet he owned not a single book
why bother when your friends have private libraries they let you use? Money is better spent on real estate.

>> No.16403717

>>16401343
Based Bezos is an Verechad, unsurprisingly.

>> No.16403739

>>16403650
They were fabricated by the Jesuits using rudimentary Elizabethan Faceapp AI

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>>16403335
So how does
>which was inspired by a private correspondence not published until 1625, nearly a decade after Shakespeare's own death! It would appear not even Shakespeare could have written himself.
Factor into that