/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16432436]

Whelp, I'm dropping Nietzsche now. What the fuck is this shit?

[Anonymous No.16432467]

>>16432436
The truth.
>The poison of the doctrine of “equal rights for all” - it was Christianity that spread it most fundamentally...
And let us not underestimate the calamity which crept out of Christianity into politics. Today nobody has the courage any longer for privileges, for masters’ rights, for a sense of respect for oneself and one’s peers - for a pathos of distance. Our politics is sick from this lack of courage.
The aristocratic outlook was undermined from the deepest underworld through the lie of the equality of souls…
>The Christian, this ultima ratio of the lie, is the Jew once more - even three times more.
>...The democratic movement is the heir to Christianity.
>Sin, as it is now experienced wherever Christianity holds sway or has held sway, is a Jewish feeling and a Jewish invention. Regarding this background of all Christian morality, Christianity did aim to “Judaize” the world.

[Anonymous No.16432470]

>>16432436
You've finally recognized that the emasculated and defanged Nietzsche shilled by the existentialists and Kaufmann to fit better into democratic liberal mentality is based on a biased reading of his works

[Anonymous No.16432473]

>>16432436
If you're a Christian you can't disagree with this.

[Anonymous No.16432488]

>Everyone is the child of God - Jesus definitely presumes nothing for himself alone - and as a child of God everyone is equal to everyone. To make a hero of Jesus!... An entirely different word would still be more nearly fitting here - the word idiot.
>His legacy to mankind...He does not resist, he does not defend his right, he takes no step which might ward off the worst; on the contrary, he provokes it. And he begs, he suffers, he loves with those, in those, who do him evil. Not to resist, not to be angry, not to hold responsible - but to resist not even the evil one - to love him.
>What was formerly just sick is today indecent - it is indecent to be a Christian today.

[Anonymous No.16432564]

>>16432436
Christian cope

[Anonymous No.16432596]

>>16432436
already posted this on /pol/: nietzsche's philosophy only tells you how based christianity truly is, turn the other cheek?

[Anonymous No.16432615]

>>16432436
"During a brief daring sojourn in very infected territory I, too, did not altogether escape this disease [anti-Semitism] and began like everyone else to develop notions about matters that are none of my business: the first sign of the political infection. For example, about the Jews: only listen! I have not met a German yet who is well disposed toward Jews: and however unconditionally all the cautious and politically-minded repudiated real anti-Semitism [antisemiterei “anti-Semitizing around”], even this caution and policy are not directed against the species of this feeling itself but only against its dangerous immoderation, especially against the insipid and shameful expression of this immoderate feeling – about this one should not deceive oneself…The Jews, however, are beyond any doubt the strongest, toughest, and purest race now living in Europe; they know how to prevail even under the worst conditions (even better than under favourable conditions), by means of virtues that today one would like to mark as vices – thanks above all to a resolute faith that need not be ashamed before “modern ideas.”
[Beyond Good and Evil.1886]

[Anonymous No.16433091]

>>16432436
It's the observation of the most well-read European of the last 200 years.

[Anonymous No.16433726]

>>16432467
Don't you realize OP is making fun of a certain kind of people and that he agrees with you? Many such threads

[Anonymous No.16433811]

>>16433726
OP is underage, who cares what he thinks?

[Anonymous No.16433920]

>>16432467
Christianity also was used to justify slavery, and the divine right of kings, advocates of class and monarchy like de Maistre were integraly Catholic, etc. For Christ's sake, the Catholic clergy is a heirarchy. it's clearly the social, economic and political trends which condition how Christianity comes to be viewed and deployed (and even how influential it is) in a given era. A cursory knowledge of history is all that required to see how patently ridiculous Nietzsche's assertions.

[Anonymous No.16434000]

>>16432436
Christianity isn't jewish and I'm tired of illiterate retards repeating this lie over and over, thinking that it will somehow make it true. "Jews" as we know them today are all descendants of two of the tribes of Israel which rejected Christ. The other tribes were not ever and still are not jewish. Christ was not a jew either, and to assert otherwise is to prove you have never actually studied the Bible, or are simply illiterate. The problem mainly stems from flawed translations. If anyone here wants to actually settle this once and for all, look here:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/wa1VDt4L1UEL/

https://christogenea.org/podcasts/exactly-why-jesus-christ-not-jew

https://www.ageoflaodicea.com/hey-christian/

[Anonymous No.16434046]

>>16433920
Christianity obviously operates on the basis of slave morality and you're either in denial or completely delusional if you claim otherwise. That European aristocracy managed to transform Christianity into a workable religion is a miracle in itself, but that end product is a product of necessity - it is neither good nor desirable.
>>16434000
What is the ethnicity of every major character of the Bible?

[Anonymous No.16434077]

>>16433920
Everything great about Catholicism in the past came from pagan influences. Nietzsche and Evola both noted this; Nietzsche praised the pre-Reformation church and identified Luther as the point where Christianity in general started becoming less pagan. De Maistre and other defenders of Catholicism in the past would be horrified by what the church has become today. Nietzsche was proven right beyond his wildest expectations.

[Anonymous No.16434089]

Depends on which Nietzche book you are giving up on. If its something like Beyond Good and Evil I could understand, but if you gave up on Thus Spoke Zarathustra then you'll miss out

[Anonymous No.16434186]

>>16434046
>What is the ethnicity of every major character of the Bible?
There are many, many different ethnicities in the Bible. All Jews are descendants of Judah, which is only One of the tribes of Israel. Just watch this if you want a completely idiot proof explanation:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/wa1VDt4L1UEL/

For the record, I'm not even Christian. I just hate wilful ignorance.

[Anonymous No.16434211]

>>16434186
To put things in terms you can understand, saying all Israelites or even all Hebrews are Jewish is exactly the same as saying all humans are horses because we have a common ancestor.

[Anonymous No.16434214]

>>16434186
>For the record, I'm not even Christian. I just hate wilful ignorance.
So you just promote obscurantist drivel? Let me guess - your argument boils down to "no no, they're not Jews, they're Hebrews, actually"?

[Anonymous No.16434247]

>>16434214
the common /pol/ argument in favor of Christianity is that the Israelites of that time are not the Jews of today or something along those lines

aka Jesus was not a Jew, he was an Israelite

[Anonymous No.16434292]

>>16434247
Embarrassing "argument".

[Anonymous No.16434359]

>>16434214
Yes, actually. Watch the video. It's 100% directly from the Bible. You have no idea how ignorant you sound right now.

[Anonymous No.16434373]

>>16434292
You should feel embarrassed by your own ignorance. Again, Jews descend from Hebrews, which descend from Israelites. By your own logic, every human is Jewish because we descend from a common ancestor.

[Anonymous No.16434382]

>>16434359
Literally no one gives a shit about your hairsplitting sophistry bro.

[Anonymous No.16434391]

>>16434373
>continuum fallacy
>shills evolution despite being a Christian
I'm sorry bro, next time I'll refer to the exact Levantine tribe by its appropriate name

[Anonymous No.16434525]

>>16434391
>despite being a Christian
I already told you I'm not a Christian. I'm just not willfully ignorant of obvious facts.
>>16434382
>bob has two sons
>his sons names are joe and steve
>joe and steve are the same person
Okay.

[Anonymous No.16434569]

>>16434186
Jesus is a Jew as far as the Romans were concerned. The rest is hairsplitting nonsense like the other anon said, bordering on subversive nonsense.

[Anonymous No.16434640]

>>16434525
>I already told you I'm not a Christian. I'm just not willfully ignorant of obvious facts.
Yeah okay.
You're giving awful metaphors btw. The argument isn't about individuals, it's literally about hereditary group categories and their relations to each other.

[Anonymous No.16434683]

>>16434046
>hurr durr anything christian is bad
you sound like a bitter person

[Anonymous No.16434685]

>>16434569
>Jesus is a Jew as far as the Romans were concerned.
No, he wasn't. This misconception comes from mistranslations which started with the 1611 King James bible, which first introduced the word Jew to the Bible. Jews are the descendants of Judah who rejected Christ. Jews as we know them today didn't exist yet in Biblical times. They didn't even begin writing the Talmud until after the Romans sacked Jerusalem in 72 AD.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. If you actually want to understand, please look at the resources I provided. If you want to remain wilfully ignorant, I can't stop you.

[Anonymous No.16434720]

>>16434640
Jews of today are the descendants of caucasoid people who essentially went insane and mixed with other races and practiced inbreeding for the last 2000 years. The rest of the caucasoid people they descended from, the Israelites, were not jewish. At least, this is what has always been written in the bible, and it's not that hard to understand. Now, it's possible the Bible is all a lie and all Israelites are Jewish, sure, but that theory the Bible itself does not in any way support this.

[Anonymous No.16434724]

>>16434569
>>16434373
>>16434247
>>16434186
>>16434046
>>16434000
If Christians lived in China for 2000 years and only married other Christians, they would be genetically distinct but not a separate race. Same is true of Jews, they have common ancestry due to being genetically isolated but they idea the Kushner and other Ashkenazi Jews are the same race as straight up quasi-Arabs is laughable.

This LARP by Jews, specifically Ashkenazi, is a modern phenomenon of Zionist colonialism in the middle East. They portray themselves as a race because they have to in order to lay claim to their "ancestral homeland".

[Anonymous No.16434770]

>>16434685
>Jews as we know them today didn't exist yet in Biblical times.
Where did they come from, then? Are they a mix of tribes, and if so, which? Or are they not a race at all? And who are the Israelites today? Was Nietzsche right, then, to separate Jesus from the Bible, and attack Paul? Lots of questions open up from these premises you're giving. If it's all in the links you gave, I'll take a look, though I can't right now.

[Anonymous No.16434784]

>>16434683
>hurr durr anything christian is bad
If you're drawing a comparison with what we have today, it's better, but not otherwise, no.
>>16434720
If you unironically believe the Khazar theory you're schizophrenic. Also your objection is literally irrelevant to the argument as we are still dealing with culturally and ethnically identical Levantine tribes.
>>16434724
I'm not interested in doing some progressive deconstruction and dissection of Jewish identity. Jewish identity may be complex but it is very well defined in all its most necessary aspects.

[Anonymous No.16434797]

>>16434724
I would betray the Aryan race for her. I would accept my children becoming Jews if it meant I could suck on her perfect khazar milkers!

[Anonymous No.16434801]

Man I sure do these love threads in which people who have never read the Bible or any of the Church Fathers try to tell Christians what Christianity is.

[Anonymous No.16434849]

>>16434797
Ashkenazi are Europeans, you're not betraying you're race. Like I said, they invented the concept of the Jewish race in order to justify colonialism and consolidate Jewish identity in a time when religious belief was fading. Most leading Zionists who established Israel were secular.

[Anonymous No.16434864]

>>16434849
>Ashkenazi are Europeans
Yeah go ask a Jew if they identify as a Jew or as a citizen of the European Union lmao.

[Anonymous No.16434932]

>>16434864
Ask a Brit the same question and you'll get the same answer, doesn't mean Brits aren't Europeans.

[Anonymous No.16434934]

>>16434864
Did you not read the second half of my post? Ashkenazi created the idea of a Jewish race in order to ideologically justify a bunch of white people moving to the middle east and establishing their "ancestral homeland". Most Jews in the west are secular, and therefore don't identify with the Jewish religion, but rather with the "culture" so it was necessary to define Jewishness along racial lines.

[Anonymous No.16434944]

>>16434934
>Ashkenazi created the idea of a Jewish race
Really nigger? Talmudic study was created in 1945?

[Anonymous No.16434962]

>>16434944
Historically the Jewish "race" was a result of a religious prohibition against marrying outside your religion. Like I said here >>16434724
>If Christians lived in China for 2000 years and only married other Christians, they would be genetically distinct.

But in an age of secularism, where most Ashkenazi aren't religious, Jewish identity was subverted. Instead of being viewed as a religion that created a quasi-race, it was viewed as a race that created a religion that reflected their history and values.

[Anonymous No.16434989]

>>16434770
It's all in the links I provided. The bitchute video very quickly and clearly explains the ancestry of the the tribes of Israel and how the jews first came to be. It's a fairly short and entertaining video. All Jews descend from the tribe of Judah, which was just ONE of the tribes of Israel. Basically, Abraham's blessing was not passed to Judah (because he was a fucking psychopath), so Judah became eternally butt hurt about this. Judah passed on his fucked up psychopath genes and the cycle of trauma to his sons, and his descendants became the creatures we know as jews today, who are STILL butt hurt about not receiving Abraham's blessing, which is why they larp as "God's chosen" people, claim Israel is their homeland, and hate all caucasoid races and Christians, the actual people "chosen" to inherit Abraham's blessing.

Basically it explains everything about how and why there is so much confusion about the relationship between whites, jews, and Christian. Jews hate whites and Christians because whites(and caucasoids in general) because they inherited Abraham's blessing and not the jews. Jews hate Christians even more because they wanted Christ to be a genocidal and racial supremacist warlord, and rejected him from day one because he wasn't one.

Instead of Christ told the Israelites they were to lead by example and uplift the world instead of conquering it. One thing jews and wingnats have in common is they both hate Christianity because it's not a genocidal and racial supremacist religion. Israelites (caucasoids) were blessed and chosen to uplift humanity, not conquer it. It's as much of a burden as it is a blessing.

[Anonymous No.16436205]

bump

[Anonymous No.16436388]

>>16434724
>>16434849
jews are asiatics. They look similar to Syrians, Lebanese, Jordanians and other Eastern Med ethnicities. Not everyone east of greece is as brown as osama bin laden, this is a bad misconception.

[Anonymous No.16436399]

>>16436388
>jews are asiatics
light complexion, light eyes, brown hair

[Anonymous No.16436418]

>>16436399
>light complexion, light eyes, brown hair
for every jew you cherry pick with these features I can also find a Syrian or Palestinian with the same. For the most part, Jews are “dark whites” like Italians and Greeks. They don’t look like Slavs or Germans.