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[Anonymous No.16495492]

Have you ever plagiarized anything in your life? I have a submission in 6 hours. Haven’t started. Thinking of translating (from my language) a paper on the same topic (to english). Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.16495494]

>>16495492
that would take almost as long as just writing something

[Anonymous No.16495496]

>>16495492
I've used unattributed quotes many times but I consider it referencing, not plagiarism. Someone attacked me once for it, but I ignored them.

[Anonymous No.16495503]

>>16495492
brainlet problems

[Anonymous No.16495510]

>>16495496
Just cite your sources lmao

[Anonymous No.16495519]

>>16495492
Only do it if you don't plan on working in academia in the future.

[Anonymous No.16495520]

>>16495510
No, I refuse.

[Anonymous No.16495522]

>>16495494
No way. An hour, or two.

>>16495496
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoCOg8ZzUfg

>>16495503
Yeah

[Anonymous No.16495531]

>>16495492
Words of wisdom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd_3hrf-DHA

[Anonymous No.16495548]

Based third worlder brainlet. I have a lot of funny stories about busting people for plagiarism when I worked for a professor.

[Anonymous No.16495565]

>>16495548
Would you have been able to catch OP

[Anonymous No.16495607]

>>16495548
I like stories..

[Anonymous No.16495621]

In high school all the time because they don't care, but not in college.

[Anonymous No.16495626]

>>16495492
All my papers were from copying from various magazine articles on the subject and compile them into a Frankenstein monster. No one ever caught it either.

[Anonymous No.16495647]

>>16495492
I have plagiarized every essay written in undergrad.
Find essays in foreign languages that touch on the topic you want to explore, then put the originals through multiple translator programs. Then revise every sentence to fit your style. Then find secondary sources in in English that touch on my topic. Takes about a night to do and had all my essays finished months in advance and could just leisurely read.

[mothman No.16495649]

>>16495548
post some you faggot, this board sucks because people like you won't share SHARING IS CARING SHARING IS CARING :(

[Anonymous No.16495729]

>>16495565
Maybe. The software that schools use for that sort of thing is pretty good these days. I also had times where I caught people without it as well. Naturally, translating it from another language would make it considerably more difficult to detect.

I think plagiarizing is a pathetic thing to do, but schools have also gone completely overboard while placing focus on bizarre, nonsensical concepts like "self-plagiarism" in an overzealous fight to achieve I'm not sure what.

>>16495607
>I like stories..

Had one student use a term I wasn't very familiar with, so when I searched it online I found the material that they had plagiarized from. Had another turn in an empty document on the midterm deadline (may have been a delaying tactic), then when this was brought to her attention and she turned in her actual exam a bunch of it was taken straight from The Economist magazine. (Later, for her final, she turned in an assignment from another class that had nothing to do with our class.) Had someone turning in assignments for another person that were handwritten while also turning in their own assignments written in the same handwriting. A colleague of mine had a student turn in a plagiarized assignment while forgetting to change the name at the top to their own name. This is all at our country's top public university, where none of these people probably deserved to be.

[Anonymous No.16495754]

>>16495626
your papers were so bad that no one could ever imagine you cheated with them.

[Anonymous No.16495776]

>>16495729
I agree that plagiarizing is retarded, but there is an over emphasis on "original thought" in academia. Students ought to be taught to learn and reproduce the works of the greats in order to learn good technique and then synthesize them using their own ideas later.

The examples you wrote about though are s absolutely disgraceful.

[Anonymous No.16495801]

I cheated a lot in my calc 1 class. Feel bad because it wasn't that hard I just didn't have the time I need to devote to it

[Anonymous No.16495819]

My professors made me paranoid that I have plagiarized without knowing because supposedly even casually eading other thoughts or articles about the material can taint your mind accidentally with unoriginal ideas and you need to source them. My brain doesn't work by putting a source tag on every idea I have, everything gets mixed together. Overall though no I never have, writing academic essays is the only thing I'm good at in life so I don't really need to, it's easy to just write the essay and put whatever is needed in the works cited.

[Anonymous No.16495820]

>>16495729
I'm curious what kind of class this was for? An upper level class or some kind of lower level shit that people or forced to take to fulfill gen-ed requirements? Theres nothing morally wrong with plagiarizing in a class that youre only taking because the government forces you to, although the attempts in your examples are pretty pathetic.

[Anonymous No.16495828]

>>16495819
casually reading*

[Anonymous No.16495839]

I cheated on an art test when I was in grade 7.

[Anonymous No.16495846]

>>16495492

Good luck explaining why your bibliography is all from Ching-Chong journals.

[Anonymous No.16495882]

>>16495846
Or just not be a mediocre researcher and find articles in your native language that speak to the subject, you faggot

[Anonymous No.16495892]

>>16495882
This. I've often worked backwards with sources by just writing shit with wikipedia research and then afterwards finding sources that look better which will "cover it."

[Anonymous No.16496456]

>>16495820
Upper division undergraduate political science course on wartime economies in the 20th century.

[Anonymous No.16496476]

>>16495520
>Oh boy, I hope someone replies to my post with "Based."!

[Anonymous No.16496566]

>>16495520
Based.

>>16496476
Don’t be rude, anon-chan

[Anonymous No.16496583]

>>16495492
>Thinking of translating (from my language) a paper on the same topic (to english).
Go and get at least three other papers on the same topic. One is not enough.
You have a better shot at getting away with it since you're transcribing it across languages but you should definitely have a lot more sources to pull from.
Do a lot of what >>16495647 said too
Also, use the search function constantly to check if what you're writing is traceable to an original source. If it is, start over.

>Have you ever plagiarized anything in your life?
Yes, and I'll keep doing it. I just plagiarize a lot of shit at once and crossbreed and revise it all extensively so nobody calls it plagiarism.

[Anonymous No.16496593]

>>16496476
I didn't expect anyone to reply, but aggravating you will suffice. How warped must your mind be from this website that you think anyone cares about that shit. Or from academia, to think anyone cares about "plagiarism." You clown.

[Anonymous No.16496609]

>>16496583
>Yes, and I'll keep doing it. I just plagiarize a lot of shit at once and crossbreed and revise it all extensively so nobody calls it plagiarism.
desu senpai it's not even actually plagiarism at this point colleges are just stupid.

[Anonymous No.16496622]

>>16495494
Only if you were concerned with accuracy with the source material. In OP's case, a rushed translation would probably be better than an accurate one, since the further it deviates from the source, the lower his odds of being caught.

[Anonymous No.16496626]

I remember rephrasing some Rush lyrics in an essay once. It's not as if every idea or even most in any given essay are completely original.

[Anonymous No.16496627]

>>16495522
>No way. An hour, or two.
But that's how long it takes to write a paper. 4 maximum if it's really fucking long

[Anonymous No.16496632]

>>16495492
I've self-plagiarized numerous times

[Anonymous No.16496643]

>>16496632
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST REUSE YOUR OWN WRITING THIS IS PLAGIARISM NOOOO

[Anonymous No.16496799]

>implying we ever actually check for plagiarism

Your essay gets read by whatever shitty program your ta has access to. It will only catch the most blatant plagiarism. I've literally never even looked closely at a bibliography... Just a casual glance.

[Anonymous No.16496808]

>>16496583
>I just plagiarize a lot of shit at once and crossbreed and revise it all extensively so nobody calls it plagiarism.

They don't call it plagiarism because ayy this point it's not you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.16496812]

>>16495492
Literally all my thoughts and all my words and all my sounds and all my is original.

[Anonymous No.16497151]

>>16495492
I was using AI philosophy bot to give ideas for some assignments before they turned it off. I will also rip ideas from essays on similar topics to mine. I would never just straight up copy paste though. You have to paraphrase everything or it will get picked up.

[Anonymous No.16497159]

>>16496799
All my classes where I had to write papers were small ones where either the professor reads it themselves or the TA hands it back to you covered in handwritten notes

[Anonymous No.16497530]

>>16495729
>where none of these people probably deserved to be.
Oh damn

[Anonymous No.16497595]

>>16496632
Self-plagiarism is not unethical.

[Anonymous No.16497605]

Don’t do it.

[Anonymous No.16497649]

>>16495492
do it

[Anonymous No.16497740]

>>16496583
>take a bunch of quotes from other peoples work and mash them together in one paper
Behold, a research paper!

[Anonymous No.16497745]

>>16497595
It's not, but professors will still give you a hard time for it

[Anonymous No.16499001]

>>16497595
It’s also a contradiction in terms.

There’s no such thing as self-plagiarism. What does exist is illegally reissuing your own writing if it’s been licensed out to some publication, which is copyright infringement. This is probably the source of where schools got the impetus for creating this idiotic idea of self-plagiarism though, but they are two completely distinct concepts.

The obsession with plagiarism is largely a byproduct of the emergence of the research university ideal in the 19th century, where scholars started publishing research work and plagiarism represented a threat to intellectual property rights. If you go back before that period you’ll find that various writers’ work are rife with serious and casual plagiarism, and often just well-meaning and unattributed homage that by today’s standards would be called plagiarism.