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>the place I'm staying doesn't allow smoking indoors
FUCK! HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO READ WITHOUT A CIGAR OR PIPE? IF I SMOKE THOSE OUTSIDE PEOPLE WILL LAUGH!

>> No.16604483

>>16604477
Are there any faggy smoke detectors?

>> No.16604503

>>16604477
>IF I SMOKE THOSE OUTSIDE PEOPLE WILL LAUGH!
No they won't. I read outside with a cigarillo every day the weather's nice. Nobody has ever reacted except for a young kid who asked me why smoke was coming out of my mouth.

>> No.16604514

>>16604503
>cigarillo
how can I roll my own? teach me master

>> No.16604542

>>16604514
I roll my own joints (a girlfriend in college taught me) but cigarillos I just buy prerolled.

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>>16604477
>Smoking anywhere

>> No.16604664

>>16604624
>a nietzschean
>obsessed with the slightest damage to health
Really?

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>>16604624
Flip a coin and eat poison, boomer guy.

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>>16604664
Costly
Stinky
Addictive
Bad for health. Why would a lover of life get this hung up on such a weed? (Addiction. Already mentioned)

>> No.16604756

>>16604716
>Costly
Not really. Unless you live in a shithole or are poor.
>Stinky
I don't mind it.
>Addictive
Anything is addictive if you're retarded. I can quit smoking for years and then come back as I please.
>Bad for health.
Who cares about health that much. Just eat decently and do some exercise.

>> No.16604764

>>16604716
The cost is fairly trivial compared to many of our indulgences, for example your monthly internet bill. Stinkiness I would agree with insofar as cigarettes, but plain tobacco is, to most, quite pleasant; at least you must admit this is subjective. If you don't like the smell, fair enough. Addiction again is more a property of specifically cigarettes, due to the additives. And this applies to health as well, although again I would ask you how you can reconcile your Nietzschean values with the notion that health is something to be jealously preserved against all possible life-affirming action that expends it.

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>>16604716
Costly
Stinky
Ugly
Bad for mental health. Why would a person become a tranny?
(Mental health. Already mentioned)

>> No.16604908

Bump. We want answers

>> No.16604921

>>16604477
Go to shower, turn it on hot, open window, smoke a cigarette. If you're paranoid throw some shampoo where the hot water hits. We smoked spice and pot in the barracks and got away w it.

>> No.16605372

>>16604921
No windows in my shower.

>> No.16605389

>>16604756
>Anything is addictive if you're retarded.
Congrats, you're an addict!

>> No.16605769
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>>16604756
>Why it’s as easy to obtain as toilet paper. Just as necessary too
>Who needs a sense of smell (or taste) when this is all I ever want to smell anymore?
>I freely choose to become addicted. What’s it to you?
>Emphysema? Yeah, like at fifty! I plan on dying sooner anyway.
Okay, Boomer.

>>16604764
>again I would ask you how you can reconcile your Nietzschean values with the notion
...that I love life and want more of it. Same reason I’m not ignoring the dangers of catching covid.

>>16604769
Animu girl(boy) I am not one of your tribe.
Only in the darkest days of teenaged angst did I ever question this *female* body which desired only female love that god supposedly gave me.

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>>16605769
Why lie? Look at this and tell me you're a woman. Everyone knows you're a tranny

>> No.16605816

>>16605769
>Boomer
Butterfly, you are at least a generation older than everyone else in this thread.

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>>16605789
That old picture of some guy? Clearly not me.
>>16605816
You’re the one using old Boomer logic. I’m honest about being a Gen-Xer. You’re all anonymous old men by the way you post

>> No.16605865

>>16605843
Boomerfly, we've all seen your pictures that you doxxed yourself with. No point fibbing now about your original gender

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>>16604716
>Costly
For you and well worth the price for the benefits received.
>Stinky
False. Women (biological females unlike you), rate the scent highly attractive which is why tobacco colognes like Tom Ford sell for hundreds of dollars an ounce.
>Addictive
It's as addictive as a cup of coffee.
>Bad for health.
False. Its neutral or beneficial in many aspects. Contrary to pseudoscience, tobacco smoking does not cause cancer.

>> No.16605877

imagine listening to a tripfag

>> No.16605880
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Just smoke inside. There is nothing they can do. Prohibitions against indoor smoking are a spook.

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>>16605865
You’re blind.

>>16605871
I know that Tom Ford. It’s the scent of unburnt tobacco and its not exactly cancer causing. Which do you prefer, the vanilla or the oud version? Oud smells like a moldy wooden box.
They’re hundreds of dollars because that’s what the industry thinks of itself

>> No.16605932

>>16605789
>>16605843
Holy shit u were a disgusting kandikid?

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>>16605880
based

>> No.16605947

>>16605871
Where can one read "Smoking is Good For You"?

>> No.16605953

>>16605789
>megaman.exe Roll plushie
Whoever this is, they're based.

>> No.16605972

>>16605953
That's like a mid 00's turbo cringe weeb

>> No.16605986

>>16605932
That’s another thing. I don’t own any of those kind of toys.
I had kenner Star Wars stuff when I was younger. This guy looks like he keeps an etagere full of these things.

>> No.16605999

i like smoking a cigar but cigarettes are fucking gross.

>> No.16606004

>>16605986
Yeah ig he's arin Hanson from game grumps. I was grown on anime cause my adoptive dad is Japanese and mid 2000's idk wtf happened but I read manga in private. Every gd anime person in the mid 00's were just fucking terrible.

>> No.16606019

>>16605947
There is a PDF online. It's a good book that shows the flaws of relying solely on epidemiological studies. Greatly enhances critical thinking.

>> No.16606028

>>16605999
do you guys think cigarettes are so addictive because the reinforcement schedule they promote?
short usage frequently through out the day, often at random intervals is going to cause addiction

>> No.16606030

Honestly, there is a world of difference between "tobacco" and "cigarettes." No one talks about this.

>> No.16606032

>>16605947
>>16606019
https://www.scribd.com/document/446203133/44685607-Smoking-is-Good-for-You-William-T-Whitby-pdf

>> No.16606036

>>16606028
It's nicotine plus it's relaxing asf. Your brain is just not calm without it and you get used to it. It's like taking a nap in how it clears your head. You can just pop back at whatever you're doing

>> No.16606038

>>16606030
do cigarettes have all sorts of chemicals to enhance the effects of the nicotine? Cigars should just be 100% tobacco right?
any books on tobacco? specifically the methods used in advertising and lobbying against the medical evidence

>> No.16606043

>>16606038
Cigarettes have all kinds of additives whereas cigars, cigarillos, and pipe-smoking are all just pure tobacco leaves. Also, cigarettes are done in less than ten minutes, which promotes this chain-smoking way of life that mainlines more of those additives into your body, and reinforces smoking as a habitual action instead of an intentional one. All the other options last at least three times longer per session and don't leave you with any desire to immediately do more.

>> No.16606052

>>16605947
Or read this.

https://joedubs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/The-Smoking-Scare-DeBunked-Tobacco-and-Health-Whitby.pdf

>> No.16606055

>>16606043
How come Phillip Morris is allowed to sell their poison but I can't grow some fucking tobacco plants in my back yard for personal use? Mother fuckers.

>> No.16606058

>>16605918
>moving the goalposts
It's so tiresome.

>> No.16606064

>>16605972
Ahh, the good old days.

>> No.16606075

>>16605953
That's Arin Hanson, a person far from being based.

>> No.16606081

>>16606064
>weeb names were literally ppl from anime
>no showering
>loud, and morbidly cringy
>those fucking headbands
It wasn't like it was a small group either it was a sizable bunch of weirdos. My sister was literally the leader of them

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>>16606058
Where, what? The Tom Ford? I already answered here >>16605769

>>16606030
Tobacco in a moldy box smells weirdly nice

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16606086

>mfw over 500 days no booze
>8 months of no weed
>finished The Brothers Karamazov
>close to making irl friends
>talked to a cute girl and didn't drop my spaghetti completely
>got a job
thanks for reading my blog post frens

>> No.16606089

>>16605769
>...that I love life and want more of it. Same reason I’m not ignoring the dangers of catching covid.
More of a tame life, and fear of less vivid life? Well alright, but if I catch you recommending Nietzsche again, I do intend to remind you of this.

>> No.16606091

>>16606086
Godspeed anon

>> No.16606092

>>16606085
Tobacco scent is highly rated and valued, yes. Thanks for admitting defeat.

>> No.16606093

>>16606089
As in less life, but more vivid... you understand

>> No.16606100

>>16606055
because you do not have enough money, anon

>> No.16606101

>>16606081
>My sister was literally the leader of them
Post sister. Please

>> No.16606103

>>16604477
Just smoke inside anyway, pussy

>> No.16606104
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>>16606089
I make my life vivid. I also like ataraxia.
No gods, no masters, no gurus either

>>16606086
Nice

>> No.16606122

>>16604477
In all my years, nobody has ever laughed at me for smoking a pipe. Most just say: "I like the pipe". On occasion, I've been called: "Sherlock", but that's about it.

>> No.16606127

>>16606092
The scent of Tom Ford isn’t the same as lightning up a dozen cancer sticks of Marlborough every week.

>Vivid
And smoking doesn’t make your life more vivid. It deadens your senses and will blacken your lungs and slow your life. Epicurus is proven right again. How about a monthly cigar, nic-kids?

>> No.16606143

>>16606127
>And smoking doesn’t make your life more vivid. It deadens your senses and will blacken your lungs and slow your life. Epicurus is proven right again. How about a monthly cigar, nic-kids?
I do, at most, a cigarillo per day, on days when the weather is great and I can go outdoors to enjoy it while reading. To think this is not something more vivid than mundane experience is at best a cope, fren.

>> No.16606155

>>16606101
I can't lol it was bad, they were such an insular group and nobody talked to them. It was worse than the level of the overly edgy emo/scene crap. I remember she got into sneezing in an anime way and nobody was buying it was her actual sneeze because it was so gaudy and contrived and we had an end of year test so it was classroom by last name and she pulled that shit and nobody would bless her except some stupid prep who was really rude about it and she still didn't get it. And she was the most popular one there

>> No.16606165

>>16606155
please stop owo im begging you

>> No.16606169

>>16606155
GOD PLEASE POST SISTER. Is she married yet? DO I HAVE SHOT?!

>> No.16606192

>>16606165
She was a quarter Japanese and acted like the worst Otaku ever. She didn't act Japanese or confident just like the most generic pasty white wapanese. I didn't get along w her then but she did end up living the dream. She married a sailor who got permanently based in mainland japan. She runs a very small twitch channel and is just as insufferable from her popularity in her hs days.

>> No.16606197

>>16606165
>>16606169
Just jack off, guys.

>> No.16606198

>>16604503
That's actually really cute and endearing

>> No.16606205

>>16606198
It was. But I also didn't really want to explain it because I didn't want to put the idea of smoking in their head. I distracted them by pointing out a big crowd of people and asking what that was about.

>> No.16606207

>>16606197
>just jack off guys!
ftfy

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>>16606192
>married
Can you at least tell us her twitch?

>> No.16606244

>>16606205
based, thank you

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>>16604477
Just wear a corduroy jacket while you smoke. Worked for me!

>> No.16606269

>>16606217
No she's insufferable and probably borderline retarded

>> No.16606279

>>16606269
That sounds like my ideal woman. Please anon, do me this one kindness

>> No.16606303

>>16606279
She's terribly spoiled and vapid and she's not interesting either and she's fat and probably a psychopath. Her husband isn't too good either. I'd be dead if I had their personality I was bullied enough dealing w my mom's favoritism for her which duefully crossed the lines of abuse and of which my sister has had the balls to accuse my mom of giving her a terrible upbringing. It's the worst characterization you could imagine giving someone in any novel.

>> No.16606319

>>16606303
anon man i get you don't want to post her twitch and you really shouldn't but you really never should have said any of this in the first place

>> No.16606326

Look anon either post the sister or dont but im really trynna talk about tobacco here not cunny

>> No.16606329

>>16606303
Damn just gimme da twitch. You can't say this much and not expect us to be curious. I just want to know what she looked like

>> No.16606330

>>16606279
Like she beat the shit out of me then told my mom I was evil and I got sent to a mental hospital for Christmas I think in elementary school and her fucking pos self was told to lie to kids at school because I'd be missing school and she announced it to everyone. I got sent to that damned place cause if you can prove the kid you adopted had mental problems before you adopted them you get more money every month. My sister is still retarded and doesn't know any of this shit and she's older than me. I could go on forever it was literally abuse

>> No.16606343

>>16606319
Who gaf it's an image board, y'all don't know half of it and I've found out my family either still thinks they're secretive about everything (even things they literally told us) or they just have no idea. I'd be dead if I acted the way these ppl do. My mom and my sister can't get jobs because they're insufferable

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>>16606127
>tfw I can't have a monthly cigar because it would restart a decade long addiction
Another good reason not to pick up regular smoking. That and the premature ED you'll eventually suffer if you're not careful (but who here cares about that).

>> No.16606377

>>16606364
Addiction to cigars? Never heard such a tale.

>> No.16606399

>>16606319
I could really go on forever. My first month out of prison I spent a week and a half checking the I'm a felon box on applications in tx. You just don't check it. Figured that out and got a job where I had to walk over an hour distance to get there. Anyways I get kicked out my first month and my dad says it's cause I couldn't find a local job of which we spoke twice about that and thought we had a heart-to-heart. So I end up finding out a few years later the real reason I was kicked out was because my mom charged loans or something I'm not sure on my old bank account before I went to prison and she stole 5.2k from me. A year after I got kicked out I called her so I could get a passport and she got paranoid halfway through so I had to send in a half empty sheet because for 3 hours I called her every second that she hung up. She did not turn off her phone. She literally hung up every time I called for 3 hours. They're just psychopaths on so many levels you have no idea

>> No.16606420

>>16606399
Post mom. Is she married?

>> No.16606434

>>16604769
TRANNIES BTFO

>> No.16606445

>>16605389
no u

>> No.16606460

>>16606420
Yeah she's crazy and probably has early on-set dementia

>> No.16606474

>>16606460
Hot. Post her feet

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>>16604477
I larp as a smoker (I even have fake cigarettes and carry around a zippo) but I've never smoked anything in my life

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>>16606677
I argue about smoking and post a lot of art of girls smoking but I only ever smoke like 2 or 3 cigs a week.

>> No.16606755

>>16606032
>>16606052
saved. major redpills in these.

>> No.16606759

>>16606127
It's quite similar. You're mentally ill so of course you throw a fit and lose all objective sense of judgement when you see someone smoking tobacco.

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>>16606759
I have a lung condition now, but before, it always just stank to me.
Unburnt tobacco has a nice smell. Fags soaked in big juice are gagifying. That’s not mental illness, stunt-boy.

>> No.16606793

>>16606781
COVID-19?

>> No.16606811
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>>16606781
i have a heart condition. my heart aches for YOU.

>> No.16606819

Not covid. I had pneumonia a few years ago

>> No.16606831

>>16606819
glad to hear you dont have Corona-chan. stay safe buttercunt

>> No.16606832

>>16606377
My boss used to smoke 3 cigars a day and would give me one on the house to smoke with him while having "intellectual" discussion. While this was happening I was smoking about 6 cigs a day, which was my preexisting habit. So 6 cigarettes and a cigar. That went on for almost two years. It eventually caused expensive and painful dental problems which was a factor in quitting.

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>>16606086
> do 48 hours of no booze
> immediately go back to binging brandy

>> No.16606958

>>16606832
Well, that is the first such tale I have heard. Three cigars a day sounds honestly quite miserable.

>> No.16607017

>>16606958
It's not if you can properly smoke cigars but like I said it's hell on your mouth. The smoke basically sinks into your gums and kicks off gingivitis on steroids after a while and that sets off its own set of spiraling oral hygiene disasters, even if you are brushing relugiously and using a flourinated rinse. I'n lucky things didn't escalate to periodontitis.

>> No.16607115

order some dry snuff online, it's the healthiest way to consume tobacco anyways
no cases of cancer from it yet, and it's been in use for quite some time now

>> No.16607125

>>16606832

that kinda sounds badass. write about it

>> No.16607135

>>16606086
I'm 78 days into complete sobriety, going for a full 365
I don't miss weed at all and plan on staying away from it after the year is done
I miss drinking sometimes, but I miss caffeine more
stimulants are pretty addicting, I didn't think of it much for the first week or two beyond withdrawal headaches but as time went on I started to have strong cravings and sometimes even dream about breaking my substance fast
still, I'm holding out to make the full year

>> No.16607166

>>16607125
Kitchen Confidential is already a good book that carries the spirit of that phase of my life. In any event, I am writing everyday now so don't despair.