/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16717011]

Reading Evola with 83 IQ
>He was clearly anti-democrat and racist
Reading Evola with 108 IQ
>He was right about americans and jews but he was too extreme
Reading Evola with 158 IQ
>He wasn't even an occultist but the most intelligent right winger thinker since Joseph de Maistre

[Anonymous No.16717015]

Communism=Fascism = infatuation in the secular state and public servants to tell people what to do all the time

people like evola is adulated by subhuman libtards disappointed with democracy, so they turn to the nostalgia of monarchuckoldry mixed with their secular state, ie fascism.

evola is the biggest fattest turd you can find in a secular democracy. Like all secular turds, he tries to seek a justify for his little turdy spooks and he deludes himself with asian teachings. Evola is on par with the fucktarded vaginas who idolize buddhism.
Evola and the vaginas are exactly the same and prove that mass public education is massive mistake from the secular humanists.
The bourgeoisie should not view themselves as intellectuals.

[Anonymous No.16717020]

>>16717011
Reading Evola with 159 IQ
>reading Evola? Sorry I have better use of my time

[Anonymous No.16717030]

>>16717020
Like reading Oprah Winfrey biography right Mr. American

[Anonymous No.16717048]

>>16717030
No like reading relevant philosopher, which you didn't do before you jumped on Evola because /lit/ told you to.

[Anonymous No.16717060]

>>16717048
I knew Evola since a time where there was only two books translated to english. And I was always anti-nazi

[Anonymous No.16717071]

>>16717060
>I knew Evola since a time where there was only two books translated to english
You started reading evola in 1940s?

[Anonymous No.16717074]

Reading Evola with 200 IQ
>Evola? More like Ebola amirite?

[Anonymous No.16717078]

>>16717015
>infatuation in the secular state and public servants to tell people what to do all the time
I do not know what you are insinuating here, though I'm sure it is meant to be negative. Do you want the state to be theocratic.

[Anonymous No.16717108]

>>16717060
Alright it still doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of more relevant philosophers out there (even when it comes to second-rate philosophers)

[Anonymous No.16717118]

>>16717108
Ebola isn't second rate

[Anonymous No.16717156]

>>16717108
Name 2 philosophers better than Evola who were born between 1880 and 1940
I only know him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Voegelin but he wasn't as good as Evola

[Anonymous No.16717182]

>>16717156
>better than
philosophy isn't a football game, the only important criteria is relevancy
>who were born between 1880 and 1940
why such a weird metric? Montesquieu is far more relevant to our era than any philosopher born between 1880 and 1940. Now if you really insist both Heidegger and Wittgenstein were born in that time bracket. They are obviously more important than Evola but feel free to say than they are not "better"
>>16717118
I'm afraid he is

[Anonymous No.16717193]

>>16717182
>I'm afraid he is
Name a better philosopher from the period that provides insight into eastern teachings

[Anonymous No.16717194]

>>16717182
>the only important criteria is relevancy
Ok anon, go back to your Oprah Winfrey autobiography

[Anonymous No.16717369]

>some guy stuck between the outdated world of his parents and rapidly changing world out there
>tries to find a higher meaning for himself, leave a trace
>plays around with exotic religions and ideas like so many dumbasses out there
>decades after his death he makes anons seethe
I don't know if he won the game, but he sure scored a lot of points.

[Anonymous No.16717370]

>>16717011
order to read evola?

[Anonymous No.16717379]

>>16717011
Yes.

[Anonymous No.16717380]

>>16717370
The articles which were only released by Evola Foundation in Italy. It's a collection of hundreds of articles.
If you don't want to learn italian you can start with Ride the Tiger, A Handbook for Right-Wing Youth and Pagan Imperialism.

[Anonymous No.16717393]

>>16717370
>>16717380
Don't start with Ride the Tiger unless you're familiar with either existentialist philosophy, or Evola's philosophy. Otherwise you'll end up disappointed. The other two are good though, also look at Metaphysics of War.

[Anonymous No.16717396]

>>16717393
There is nothing in english for people to get into Evola philosophy before Ride the Tiger unless there is an anonymous translation somewhere that I don't know

[Anonymous No.16717404]

>>16717393
start with Revolt?

[Anonymous No.16717410]

>>16717194
I'm not American and I'm not interested the least in this lady, but I genuinely think that a critical reading of her autobiography will teach you more about the modern world that anything Evola ever wrote.

[OP No.16717416]

>>16717015
>""""state""""
"State" is a low IQ word. In the US, the "state" is the federal government and regional government. If you shattered the US into little county-sized communities, the "state" would be the village elders and regional representatives. There is always a "state" because in any community of any size there are people tasked with performing "governmental" functions. "State"-hatred is just a lower resolution version of having contempt for your elders. There are only unjust and just states, the concept of the state itself is not just or unjust, it Is.

>>16717396
pic related

[Anonymous No.16717418]

>>16717416
Fuck, I'm not OP, I keep forgetting to change that.

[Anonymous No.16717422]

>>16717416
99,9% of people will need to read something before Hermetic Tradition. I don't know maybe even Guenon or Schuon books can help
Mystery of the Grail is not a good source I think. People won't know about the solar (masculine), esoteric words, etc.

[Anonymous No.16717432]

>>16717396
What are you talking about? There's at least 20 of his books that have been translated to English. Unless you're familiar with Evola, or with the people and philosophies he's critiquing, you're not going to have a good time with Ride the Tiger. If you go in blind you won't gain much from it.
>>16717404
Revolt is a very good book but since it's one of his longest and is very heavy on the metaphysics it turns some people off.

[Anonymous No.16717436]

>>16717416
This >>16717422
That guide should be updated, it's not very good.

[Anonymous No.16717440]

>>16717416
The graph is such ass. I don't know why people keep posting it unless they're just aping other people they think read Evola.

[Anonymous No.16717503]

>>16717436
The problem with Evola is that his articles are not translated to english yet. The Hermetic Tradition should be the last book

[Anonymous No.16717517]

>>16717503
>His articles aren't translated yet, therefore you can't read anything
Still more than 20 excellent books you can read in English before Ride the Tiger though. There are some collections of his articles translated to English though.

[Anonymous No.16717527]

>>16717503
>His articles aren't translated yet, therefore you can't read anything
Still more than 20 excellent books you can read in English. There are some collections of his articles translated to English though. But yes Hermetic Tradition should be towards the end, I agree.

[Anonymous No.16717559]

>>16717432
>Revolt is a very good book but since it's one of his longest and is very heavy on the metaphysics it turns some people off.
If you're already familiar and experienced with occultism then Revolt is a good start; at least it was for me.

[Anonymous No.16717570]

>>16717559
Sure that makes sense, it was my first as well but I was familiar with Eliade so had some background to work from. But most people here start reading him because they heard the meme about "superfascist!!" or because the title sounds edgy. That's not to say they couldn't grow to get something out of Evola, but then Revolt is not the best place to start.

[Anonymous No.16717582]

>>16717570
Metaphysics of War is probably the best start for most people on /lit/ imo

[Anonymous No.16717589]

>>16717582
Yes agreed, I recommended it in this thread as well and usually do.

[Anonymous No.16717632]

[Anonymous No.16717845]

>>16717410
Retard

[Anonymous No.16717910]

>>16717632
I find it telling both Guénon and Teilhard de Chardin, representing two almost perfectly opposed totalistic worldviews, have this type of strange elongated face, elongated at the nose rather than at the brow as in the Nordic types. I've read someone say it was typical of a certain central west European (as in, Swiss) type, but it can't be the "alpine type" of old anthropologists which looks nothing like it. So I wonder what it is. Maybe nothing, just a coincidence.

[Anonymous No.16717926]

>>16717011
>evola isn't an occultist
60 iq take but whatever
wanna hear something thats actually 160iq and further?
>evola is not right wing

[Anonymous No.16717928]

>>16717845
no u

[Anonymous No.16717981]

>>16717926
Do you disagree with "occultism=/=esoterism"?
You define right wing by its material function rather than ideological content, I bet?

[Anonymous No.16719313]

>>16717011
>your IQ + 1 (which is mine)
evola was cringe (unless you think he's cringe too in which case he's based)

[Anonymous No.16719384]

>>16719313
what are you trying to say

[Anonymous No.16719391]

>>16717926
>>16717981
I agree, Evola is more like some degenerate occultist/anarchist then rightwing, Guenon is more like some postmodernist using African and Native American culture to undermine the West, then some Conservatist with a respect for the traditions. All those guys are basically leftists pretending to be rightwing.

[Anonymous No.16719429]

>>16719384
that my IQ is OP's + 1 and that whatever his opinion is I hold the opposing belief

[Anonymous No.16719452]

>>16719391
Evola is the furthest thing from anarchist. You obviously never read him.

[Anonymous No.16719469]

>>16719452
His interest in the occult, his refusal to deal with politics and his sexual degenerate nature, makes him closer to some anarchist.

A real rightwing male would follow a logic/scientific world view, embrace community and politics and become married.

[Anonymous No.16719528]

>>16719469
>he fell for the "50s lifestyle is trad" meme
>>16719391
How are they left wing? Your definition of right and left seem to be very arbitrary, you should read how Evola defined his own position.

[Anonymous No.16719735]

>>16717048
brutal

[Anonymous No.16719879]

>>16717011
reading evola with an iq sub 60
>coming up with any politically related conclusion
kys op

[Anonymous No.16719900]

>>16719528
Yes mate, having a family and supporting your community is just 50's trad and not a universal value followed by all succesful societies.

Just continue showing you are basically just an hippy.

[Anonymous No.16719908]

>>16717422
Well people can force themselves to learn shit while they read. You know, look shit up they don't understand instead of powering through a book and not actually studying it.
There's no easy way into evola and people are better off being exposed to his esoteric works rather than jumping into a shit pit of whatever connections their uninitiated mind makes.

[Anonymous No.16719922]

>>16719900
the nuclear family didn't exist in 1850
Something with less than 100 years history is not tradition

>interest in occult and disinterest in politics makes one an anarchist
>disinterest in politics is anarchy
no just stop fucking posting

[Anonymous No.16720037]

>>16717011
weird that op says this
why even read evola if youre actually well read on de maistre? his anti enlightenment sentiments will continue to be relevant until there is another renaissance or we crumble

[Anonymous No.16720061]

>>16719922
>the nuclear family didn't exist
Yes it did retard, it was just usually extended, there was still a basic core

[Anonymous No.16720624]

>>16717020
Reading Evola with 160 IQ
>At last I truly see

[Anonymous No.16720708]

Reading Evola with 161 IQ
>I cant read

[Anonymous No.16720841]

>>16719900
>Yes mate, having a family and supporting your community is just 50's trad and not a universal value followed by all succesful societies.
Correct.
>Just continue showing you are basically just an hippy.
Go back to Quora, boomer cuck.

[Anonymous No.16720896]

>>16717011

[Anonymous No.16722198]

>>16717011
Reading Evola with 329 IQ
>i can't read

[Anonymous No.16722209]

>>16720841
Now this is constructive criticism

[Anonymous No.16722225]

The fact that you use 'IQ' means you don't actually subscribe to Evola and have already drank the kool-aid of our modern technologized world. Took some time but welcome to the grownups club.

[Anonymous No.16722304]

>>16717632
This entire meme is pure cope

[Anonymous No.16722352]

>>16717011
>Thinking that the ability to match geometric shapes helps reading comprehension
>Makes Evola shit-thread
Adds up

[Anonymous No.16722366]

Daily reminder:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywWw2IAyEfs&feature=youtu.be&t=1124

[Anonymous No.16722463]

>>16717416
This.

[Anonymous No.16722471]

>>16717416

[Anonymous No.16722479]

>>16717632

[Anonymous No.16722627]

>>16717015
>Evola secular

Nice bait you have there