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>in every Wagner drama man is saved by woman in some form
What is the reason for this?

>> No.16757315

>>16757303
The reason men need women is to fufill an emotional void in their souls. This is why loneliness is so damaging, mentally and physically.

>> No.16757319
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>>16757303
Esoterically speaking, the animus needs the anima to be whole and vice versa.

>> No.16757360

>>16757319
You'd probably like this article:

https://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/theos/v12n07p321_richard-wagners-music-dramas.htm

>> No.16757571

>>16757360
Thanks for this. It was highly interesting and informative. To return the favor here is a passage from Nos: Book of Resurrection which deals with the same thing.

>There was an egg, which was all the non-created world, with transparent walls through which there could be seen no one and non-outside. And this is where HIM-HER lived. in the breathing of the great egg, from time to time, like something which happened before the seconds and the hours, there appears the color green, which might have become a star, or a ray of light, but which remained as the motionless, cosmogonic great egg. A music, a sound, took shape or rather, the seed of a music, with its insinuated trembling.

>but the experiment had now been made, the time was foretold. Chance became destiny within the great egg. The breathing became rhytmic, although it stayed within the walls of transparent ice. She emerged and danced a little, covered in green placenta, until He breathed Her in as if He were drowning in a horrible pleasure, rapidly, rapidly, so as not to let Her escape. The green veils fell away from Her. And He saw Her for the first time naked in Her body, made out of time, play and dance.

>> No.16757603

Because I need to coom inside a 40 year old chubby milf yesterday

>> No.16757607

>>16757603
nice man. I kissed a chubby girls belly today. was hot.

>> No.16757633

>>16757571
I thank you for your curtesy anon, I've been wanting to read Nos for a while as an introduction to Serrano but I'm not sure if it's the best introduction. What do you think anon?

Though I personally don't like theosophy much(the link I posted being on a theosophy site), on its own, and within the frame of greater mysticism/esotericism; but one good thing for all the occult is at least an acuity to symbolism, and in that article I posted they get a lot of stuff right with that.

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>>16757633
Yeah, I'll have to give that article a second read tomorrow with a fresh mind. It's pretty dense but from my first read I appreciate the scholarship.
As for getting into Serrano, you're right. Nos is more end level to his thought, given its a poetic way of explanation. I recommend his short book that contains his conversations with Hermann Hesse and Jung. It's a more down to earth introduction.
Cheers.
>http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=A2EE42A78D6624CFE484A9F414B971B3

>> No.16757709

>>16757687
Yes, that's it! The article is most useful if anything for being an excellent resource and collecting the information in an understandable way.

>Nos is more end level to his thought, given its a poetic way of explanation.
I've heard that it's written as a mythological stream of inspiration from what Jung would call his Self, and why from what I've heard parts of Memories, Dreams, Reflections are written in the same way, like a fairy tale or archetypal story in Jung's case. Reading those quotes you posted I can very much see that.

I'll read the correspondence first, so thanks for the rec anon. Cheers as well for the conversation.

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>>16757709
Ah yes. Serrano writes how Nos falls outside of literary genres, outside of the essay, poem, and novel forms, or something like that. I think in the book I linked he also notes how Jung's ideas gave him a clearer insight on how to go about producing art via his methods of inner exploration, which we can now thankfully trace in Jung's Red and Black books. In any case, twas a pleasurable exchange and thanks again for that article and site. I can see myself exploring the other content soon.

>> No.16757956

>>16757887
Jung definitely provides an enormously useful psychological structure for understanding art and artistic creation. It was equable as pleasurable an exchange for me anon, have good day and hopefully we shall talk again once I've read that correspondence!

Anyhow, have a nice vorspiel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UCRARmzAgo

>> No.16758008

Das Ewig-Weibliche zieht uns hinan.

>> No.16758465

>>16757303
She has to save Mr. Banks

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>> No.16759470

latent christcuck liberalism