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Why doesn't our generation also have a cool philosophical movement?

>> No.16763422

>>16763412
We do c:

>> No.16763423

>>16763412
YOU JUST KNOW

>> No.16763426
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>Why doesn't our generation also have a cool philosophical move-

>> No.16763451

>>16763426
kill me

>> No.16763454

>>16763426
BASED

>> No.16763458

>>16763412
Nobody will debate me so it's hard to really place ideas against each other

>> No.16763469

>>16763426
hahaha this can’t be fucking real

>> No.16763477

>>16763426
who’s the fat Jew in the back

>> No.16763480

>>16763412
Three pseuds who needed “intelligence” to argue that they want to a have a cock in their mouths and not get judged for it.

>> No.16763485

>>16763480
you haven't read any of them anon

>> No.16763486

>>16763480
How do I get my name out there? It's hard to debate these ecelebs

>> No.16763522

>>16763426
>ITT: photographs taken by shrek

>> No.16763524

>>16763486
Go on some faggot like vaush’s streams and debate him then make sure to plug your name at the end

>> No.16763531

>>16763524
I don't think he'll debate me

>> No.16763560

>>16763412
Queer theory and other intersectional ideologies took over all continental spaces while analytical spaces remain as stuffy and uninspiring as ever.

>> No.16763585

>>16763412
>>16763426
Both of these "movements" are shit.

>> No.16763586

>>16763412
Twitter theorycels defending esoteric meme ideologies in an ironic and distant manner, often with an occult/pagan twist.

>> No.16763593

>>16763426
Holy.....

>> No.16763595

never heard of MGTOW kid?

>> No.16763605

>>16763426
do sam harris and jbp just walk around wearing blazers? wth

>> No.16763608

>>16763586
it's all so played out though, there is nothing really new

>> No.16763616

>>16763412
We have it: the incel movement.
https://incels.wiki/w/Blackpill
The incel movement will be studied for decades to come and will be considered one of the most important philosophical movements in history.

>> No.16763621

>>16763616
incel movement is just angry people sort of understanding evolutionary psychology but mostly twisting it for a political agenda, there is no depth to it at all

>> No.16763628

>>16763426
>Aah anon, you're finally here
>Please sit next to Sam, we're about to begin...
>Welcome everyone, to the first PseudCon.

>> No.16763677

>>16763426
What goes on here /lit/?

>> No.16763725

>>16763426
The funny thing is, you can tell Jordan has read somewhere that women find men more attractive when they don’t smile in photos.
Look at most photos of him and you’ll never see him smile.

Also, you can just tell that he thinks this photo will go down in history. He is completely oblivious to his relevance

>> No.16763743

>>16763621
let’s not forget how the vast majority of incels blame their looks for dating failures. of course im not saying looks dont matter but ive seen so many pictures of incels that are just average looking dudes that are so depressed they convinced themselves they are undesirable. there is some truth of course to how our society is set up that makes dating harder but they don’t see that this applies across the attractiveness spectrum. i wonder how incels feel about that deformed wheelchair guy with an attractive gf

>> No.16763746

>>16763725
meanwhile jordan looks like he’s just realized he might’ve shit himself

>> No.16763752

>>16763426
truly cursed

>> No.16763786

>>16763412
there is speculative realism and all that shit bro

>> No.16763822

>>16763786
The last gasp of Continental pseudry before it finally keels over and dies

>> No.16763917

>>16763412
zizek, byung chul-han, bifo, baudrillard is still relevant, lazzarato, object oriented ontology and speculative realism, badiou, etc

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>>16763412
contemporary philosophy is a thing
>>16763426
>alt light =/= philosophy

>> No.16764064

>>16763412
why don't people like analytic philosophy

>> No.16764126

>>16764064
is it just that its not confusing in prose style? there's profoundly interesting and original thinkers. nagel, korsgaard, nussbaum, rawls, parfit, quine...

>> No.16764149

>>16764064
>>16764126
/lit/ tends toward esoteric wank which inclines it towards Continental. Because the internet only deals in zero sum games thereby liking something means you must adopt a position of seething hatred towards its perceived opposite, so Analytic routinely gets shit on.

>> No.16764158

>>16763586
I add dragons to mine

>> No.16764248

>>16763786
>What unites the four core members of the movement is an attempt to overcome both "correlationism"[6] and "philosophies of access". In After Finitude, Meillassoux defines correlationism as "the idea according to which we only ever have access to the correlation between thinking and being, and never to either term considered apart from the other."[7] Philosophies of access are any of those philosophies which privilege the human being over other entities. Both ideas represent forms of anthropocentrism.

>All four of the core thinkers within speculative realism work to overturn these forms of philosophy which privilege the human being, favouring distinct forms of realism against the dominant forms of idealism in much of contemporary Continental philosophy.

Sounds like some absolute faggotry.

>> No.16764298

>>16763725
t. someone who's read somewhere that women find men more attractive when they don't smile in photos and now it's all he thinks about
t. someone who thinks his photos will be remembered and is projecting onto other people
You fucking faggot.

>> No.16764321

>>16763725
I've never seen so much projection in a single post lmao
Did Peterson kill your family or something

>> No.16764335

>>16764064
tries too hard to be scientific

>> No.16764349

object-oriented ontology makes me wanna kill myself. wittgenstein would've had he lived long enough to witness such absolute nonsense

>> No.16764353

>>16763412

We've moved past the need for philosophy

Everything is sociology and psychology now

>> No.16764364

>>16764353
Examples?

>> No.16764408

>>16764064
>>16764126
>>16764149
A more contemporary spin that differs from turn of century and post war analytic is needed

>> No.16764419

>>16764364
Better said, the society became too feminine so it focuses on feelings rather than aspiring for the objective truth.

>> No.16764426

youtube and the internet has destroyed the best minds of a generation......vidya and weeb "culture" also

>> No.16764448

Don't worry anon I'll do something about it

>> No.16764492

>>16764448
Not until you debate me!

>> No.16764641

>>16764492
Man kiss girl
Girl licks dick
So technically man licks dick
So every man gay
Destroy this analogy if you got the brain

>> No.16764670

>>16764641
Sure there's a degradation of causation which more properly maps the occasioning of these irl.
Also assuming these are purely equal then a converse works in theory for truth preservation. We can see,
Man kiss girl (restatement)
Dick licks girl (converse and could imply on cheek)
Thus the rest don't follow unless we bound man to kissing wherever dick links on girl which would make it all need restructuring.

>> No.16764671

>>16763412

It's coming.

And it is a doozy!

>> No.16764738

>>16764670
speak english

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>>16764738
I thought we were speaking in logic.

>> No.16764949

We are the movement.

>> No.16765175

>>16763725
Literally no male i know smiles in photos.

>> No.16765180

>>16764353
Been a thing since 1920

>> No.16765200

>>16763412
Read Rogozinski, Ruda, Thacker for a start.
Lots of good shit is happening.
Go look at Cultural Memory In The Present imprint from Stanford, lots of awesome contemporary shit in there.

https://www.sup.org/books/series/?series=cultural+memory+in+the+present

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>>16765175
my mom makes me smile. she gets annoyed at me if I don't desu

>> No.16765342

>>16765325
According to jbp your mom has reverse oedipal syndrome

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>>16765342
my mom has a crush on me...

>> No.16765365

>>16765352
Tell her she looks nicer when she smiles

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16765441

*blocks your path*

>> No.16765456

>>16763426
Uhh is that a normal pose sam is taking?

>> No.16765485

>>16764670
This is funny but having read something by Focault this legit gave me PTSD

>> No.16765500

>>16765485
>cf analytic to foucault

>> No.16765509

>>16763725
I don't think he smiles much in general.

>> No.16765541

>>16765365
.. and shut up
>"Sois belle et tais-toi!"

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>>16765541
hey don't tell my mom to shut up

>> No.16765610

>>16763412

does the whole "return to tradition" spread among 4chan can be considered as a philosophical movement ? even if you have subset categories into it ?

>> No.16765639

>>16765610
No, the alt right was closest but it was just a political movement. You can't have altright literature or even music without making some frankensteinian admixture (like the fashwave crap)

>> No.16765643

>>16765500
I don't know what you tried to say here

>> No.16765657

>>16765643
Cf means compare or comparing
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cf..

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>>16763426
Is that Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, and Ben Shapiro having a meal together?

>> No.16765823

philosophical movements, practically all movements actually, are fictions made up by the media or by someone who wants to establish a 'point of history' to bind their name to and get recognition. in the case of philosophy it goes like this: force idea of a 'movement' in academia -> teach new comers this as historical fact -> keep forcing till it suffuses everyone and becomes common knowledge. or in some cases the media does this more directly because a market is set up the masses told that it's very important and status-ful (french philosophy).

>> No.16765862

>>16765691
no it's four jews getting ready to do a blood libel on a bald baby (officiated jordan peterson)

>> No.16766056

>>16763426
kek

>> No.16766104

>>16763412
The genes for intelligence are vanishing from the population. The only thing close to intellectual movements in our time are elite sponsored programs to manipulate the Serf/cattle population into even greater submission.
TL;DR: We’re too dumb for intellectual movements these days

>> No.16766111

>>16763412
All things ultimately serve capitalism. Why dedicate your life to philosophy when humanities departments are soon to die and you need to feed yourself and your family?

>> No.16766115

>>16763412
it does. you just don't like it

>> No.16766153

>>16763412
The dissemination of information over the internet has diluted what philosophers have to offer, as well as any other discipline based around one person using their mind to create something. The lone creator is a concept that is fading, because the future is coming, and there is no room for individualists in it.

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>>16763412
Because singular catmen have been pushed to the margins, replaced by the mass conformism of onions and "puppers."

>> No.16766298

>>16766286
I like how everyone except foucault treats the cat like a foreign specimen

>> No.16766302

>>16766298
>>16766286
Like "get a load of this fucker"

>> No.16766308 [DELETED] 

>>16763412
The most profound philosophical works of our generation:

My Little Pony: Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell

Fluttershy and the Fine Furry Friends Fair

Pinkie Pie and the Rockin' Ponypalooza Party!

Applejack and the Honest-to-goodness Switcheroo

Princess Celestia and the Summer of Royal Waves

My Little Pony: The Art of Equestria

The Journal of the Two Sisters: The Official Chronicles of Princesses Celestia and Luna (My Little Pony)

My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Princess Luna and the Festival of the Winter Moon

Discord and the Ponyville Players Dramarama

My Little Pony: Daring Do and the Marked Thief of Marapore

My Little Pony, Friendship is Magic: Volume 2

Sunset Shimmer's Time to Shine

My Little Pony: Equestria Girls: Through the Mirror

My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic #10

Starlight Glimmer and the Secret Suite

Princess Twilight Sparkle and the Forgotten Books of Autumn

My Little Pony: Daring Do and the Eternal Flower

My Little Pony: Equestria Girls: Sleepover Surprise: Book 6

My Little Pony: Daring Do and the Forbidden City of Clouds

Lyra and Bon Bon and the Mares from S. M. I. L. E.

Princess Cadance and the Spring Hearts Garden

My Little Pony: Equestria Girls: A Friendship to Remember

Equestria Girls: The Mane Event

My Little Pony: Equestria Girls: Canterlot High Stories: Rainbow Dash Brings the Blitz

My Little Pony: Under the Sparkling Sea

Trixie and the Razzle-dazzle Ruse

Pony Tales

My Little Pony: Equestria Girls: Magic, Magic Everywhere!

The Art of My Little Pony: The Movie

My Little Pony: Equestria Girls: The Legend of Everfree

My Little Pony: Equestria Girls: Make Your Own Magic: Starswirl Do-Over

My Little Pony: Equestria Girls: Canterlot High Stories: Twilight Sparkle's Science Fair Sparks

My Little Pony: Beyond Equestria: Rainbow Dash Rights the Ship

My Little Pony: Equestria Girls: Canterlot High Stories: Pinkie Pie and the Cupcake Calamity (Equestria Girls: Canterlot High Stories, 3)

My Little Pony: Beyond Equestria: Pinkie Pie Steps Up

My Little Pony: Ponyville Mysteries: Riddle of the Rusty Horseshoe

My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic, Vol. 9

My Little Pony: Ponyville Mysteries: Peryton Panic

My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic Volume 12

My Little Pony: Friends Forever Volume 2

My Little Pony: Nightmare Knights

My Little Pony: Equestria Girls: Rainbow Rocks

My Little Pony: The Wonderbolts Academy Handbook

My Little Pony: The Movie

Through the Mirror

My Little Pony Baking Book

My Little Pony: Art is Magic

>> No.16766340

>>16763616
This

>> No.16766796

>>16763412
>why doesn't the generation(s) raised on cartoon network, video games, and internet have any cool people?

>> No.16766840

>>16763477
Ben Shapiro

>> No.16766869

>>16763426
*refuted SJWs*
*refuted communism*
*refuted nihilism*
*refuted depression*
*refuted Hume*
*refuted anti-drugs activists*
*refuted the Copenhagen interpretation*
yep I'm thinking they're based

>> No.16766944

>>16766869
>refuted Hume
burning by hand on a stove doesn't objectively "suck" it just hurts.

>> No.16766948

>>16766796
Because you're all psychopaths

>> No.16766953

>>16763628
kek

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>>16763426
basedpilled!

>> No.16767117
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The Dark Enlightenment

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>>16765691
>>16766840
Ben Shapiro is the real life Luke Skywalker — the best thing about him is his sister.

>> No.16767127

>>16767117
Faggy name for a faggy movement.

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>>16767127
is either that or the Intellectual Dark Web, you decide which to join bucko!

>> No.16767139

>>16767131
>dark, evil, edgy, bbc
They get what they put into it

>> No.16767153

>>16767131
Even more embarrassing and homosexual moniker

>> No.16767157

>>16766286
lol

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>>16763485
>i-its not troo, you hafnt reed it in the on tru WAY
Get lost, sodomite.

>> No.16768621

bump

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>>16763412

Because Rene Guenon ended philosophy

>> No.16768762

>>16763412
idk but the existing ones i've seen like the New School are pretty cringe

>> No.16768772

>>16763426
What would Rubin and Rogan even say during such a meeting?
>yeah you gotta have free speech I agree haha

>> No.16768797

>>16768772
>hahaha

>> No.16768968

>>16763426
Look at this picture and tell me intellectualism is dead

>> No.16768990

>Communitarianism
>Neopragmatism
>weird pseudo-esoteric twitter shit like Mike Ma and BAP and Moldbug
>Analytic Thomists like Feser

>> No.16769098

>>16763412
I don't know if they're cool, but there's a pretty large scholastic revival.

>> No.16769107

>>16763426
>look who finally crawled out of his bedroom

>> No.16769127

>>16767121
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ml_V7HNIsY

Let me tell you there skeeter, that there is a fine post.

>> No.16769140

>>16765862
Fucking kikes

>> No.16769213
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Process philosophy and related currents such as new materialism are the future.
There is a spirituality of exploration, creativity, and discovery involved with this movement: https://archived.moe/lit/thread/16669896

>> No.16770208

>>16763725
I don't smile unless I feel happy or flustered.

>> No.16770964

>>16763412
Give me a second fucker, I'm still challenging my ideas. You'll get your revolution when I'm finished.

>> No.16770984

>>16763725
Dudes shouldn’t smile in pictures unless it’s with your family or something

>> No.16771035

>>16763426
*saves liberalism*

>> No.16771056

>>16767131
>>16763426

How fucking pseud do you have to be to think that these cunts are philosophers that will be remembered 20 years past their death?

>> No.16771080
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>>16763412
There was nothing cool about them because they had no skin in the game.

>> No.16772959 [DELETED] 

>>16764064
>why don't people like analytic philosophy
They are narrow minded retards who think there is nothing outside the horizon of formalization, argument, and science. Many of them think there can be no thinking outside their kind of thinking. They are also oblivious that they do this. Why? Because they are ahistorical. Their lack of historicity has an additional failing that makes them uninteresting to anyone that has read broadly across philosophy outside analytics: if they inquire into something philosophically interesting they end up retracing the steps of continentals from a hundred or so years ago. Examples: (1) analytics talking about 4E cognition (like embodied cognition) and Merleau-Ponty/Heidegger. (2) Recent analytic aesthetic topics like "literary cognitivism" and aesthetic knowledge that is a re-hash of the German aesthetic tradition from the German romantics to Gadamer and Adorno. There are loads more examples (analytic philosophy of science is constantly "re-discovering" things that continental philosophers of science said a hundred years ago).

It wouldn't be so bad if they were open minded thinkers that read books (including literature) outside their experience, but they tend to be the opposite (and arrogant on top of it). Imagine higher functioning, slightly more sophisticated versions of science- and fallacy-loving redditors. That's what an analytic philosopher is.

>> No.16772975

>>16763412
Because none are my equal. And I haven't deigned to sire acolytes.

>> No.16772979

>what is postliberalism