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>there are people with degrees in philosophy that haven’t read any greeks

>> No.16854369
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Nobody fucking cares about the Greeks lmao grow up

>> No.16854372

>>16854337
>there are people with degrees in philosophy
this is what you should really be concerned about.

>> No.16854376

>>16854337
No, there isn't. Everyone reads the republic in into to Phil.

>> No.16854380

>>16854337
even some of the canonical philosophers are not so well read, do you expect the average to be

>> No.16854381

>>16854337
>degree in philosophy
For what purpose?

>> No.16854391

>>16854376
Everyone should read the entirety of Plato and Aristotle's works

>> No.16854395

>>16854337
no, there aren't

>> No.16854401

>>16854391
Plato has very little worth reading. Aristotle should be mandatory, though.

>> No.16854412

>>16854337
>degrees in philosophy
Ah yes, let me go to a college so they can teach me how to think and give me a piece of paper at the end for being such a good boy, because that's what being intelligent is really about.

>> No.16854442

>>16854376
no lol

>> No.16854447
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>there are people with degrees in philosophy that haven’t read any deleuze

>> No.16854456

>>16854447
this is a more believable one

>> No.16854469

>>16854337
>there are people with degrees in philosophy
Unbelievably based.

>> No.16854470

>>16854337
Just started Apology. Am i just not getting him or was Socrates a smug asshole whose only trick was deconstructing reality until nothing is provable and going "guess you didn't really know anything, looks like i win again HMMMMMM"?

>> No.16854474

>>16854470
yes and no

>> No.16854494

>>16854376
Reading the Republic is not enough to say that you have read the Greek. It isn't even enough to say that you know anything about Plato.

>> No.16854503

>>16854456
Both are equally believable. Most of the students don't read a single book during the course of their undergraduate studies, they're forced to read memepapers written by joe nobody and only fractions of valuable works instead.

>> No.16854505

>>16854470
Switch it to the Alcibiades Major, anon

>> No.16854508

>>16854337
Why would I read the Greeks? The only useful ideas from the Greek are already part of the collective social consciousness. Plus they were wrong about nearly everything. So the only benefit in reading the Greeks in modern is to learn what isn't good philosophy. This is ironic because 4channers think the Greeks are an untapped source of knowledge. So you just end up looking like a Dunning-Kruger mouthbreather.

>> No.16854509

Yikes

>> No.16854516

>>16854508
Spoken like a true retard.

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>>16854508
You are the king of Mount Stupid.

>> No.16854526

>>16854516
I've never read a work of philosophy where I went "gee I never thought of it like that before"

>> No.16854535

>>16854526
If you think that's what supposed to happen when you read philosophy then you're a lost cause.

>> No.16854544

>>16854524
According to the Greek pederasts whom you fellate, the peak of mount stupid is where they would fall. Doesn't Socrates "know nothing"?

>> No.16854553

>>16854535
I was able to come up with their philosophical frameworks by myself. I reject most because they are retarded like all philosophical concepts.

>> No.16854555

>>16854544
Yeah, and that makes him the most intelligent person on Earth like the Oracle said since he knows that he knows nothing, retard.

>> No.16854569

>>16854553
You sound like you don't read a lot.

>> No.16854575

>>16854544
Your sophistry is amateurish. Socrates knew that he knew nothing. Therefore he cannot be on mount stupid which is reserved for people like you who seem to believe that you have it all figured out.

>> No.16854580

>>16854337
i finished gymnasium (high school) without knowing any calculus

>> No.16854584

>>16854337
>degrees are useless bullshit
whaaaaaaaaat!?

>> No.16854591

>>16854580
Based half-assing appreciator

>> No.16854606

Bruh I have a minor in phil and had to take a course on the Greeks. I can say with utmost confidence that they all suck except for Heraclitus

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>>16854401
>Plato has very little worth reading
>Aristotle should be mandatory
REEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

Name one (1) great philosophical theory you think is unique to Aristotle and I will point *exactly* to where you can find its antecedent in Plato. Aristotle is to be cherished for his broad and penetrating scientific interests.
>inb4 hylomorphism
Hylomorphism is invaluable for any materialist ontology, but materialism is a cancer that had its metastasis in Aristotle. Besides, hylomorphism is just a development of the idea posited in Timaeus 49-51.

>> No.16854632

>>16854569
Reading philosophy isn't reading. It's like having a 3 year old boy tell you girls don't have a floppy thing down there. No shit kid. Everyone knows that, but congratulations for discovering a basic fact of life. That's what philosophy is. Some incel describing basic, obvious, observable facts of life and Dunning-Kruger'ing himself and others into thinking he is intelligent.

>> No.16854641

>>16854632
You are the athenian that ignores that he doesn't know and thinks that he knows. The most ignorant of all ignorants.

>> No.16854644

>>16854584
>every degree needs to be useful

You know some people get degrees because they want to learn, right?

>> No.16854656

>>16854337
It's literally what every philosophy student learns on the first year retard

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>>16854535
>>16854553
>read philosophy book
>have already independently arrived at these conclusions
No wonder the immortal Socrates thought conversation the best form of philosophizing.

>> No.16854661

>>16854381
They just get the degree, then figure that out later

>> No.16854697

>>16854644
How does this, in any way, relate to my statement? Did they not teach you how to read?

>> No.16854722

>>16854661
Walmart or McDonald's

>> No.16854798

>>16854442
everyone reads SOME plato in intro to phil.

>> No.16855684

>>16854372
>>16854381
>>16854412
>>16854584
>>16854661
>>16854722
Guess how I know you all are working class trash?

>> No.16855753

>>16854606
>Believe me coz I have a degree
Here there is a proof that degrees suck.

>> No.16855769

>>16854337
this but with Guenon (pbuh)

>> No.16855818

>every philosophy program is the same (either the shitty analytic one I went to, where we read no books; or the classically minded European one *I* went to, where we were Bildung'd with the canon)

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