[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/lit/ - Literature

View post   
File: 113 KB, 713x820, spengler.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16996279 No.16996279 [Reply] [Original]

>leave everything to me

>> No.16996282

i'd rather read marx than this hack

>> No.16996287

>>16996279
>is right about literally everything
Any other historiographer/philosopher like this?

>> No.16996294

>>16996282
>hack
Cope, he's absolutely right.

>> No.16996355

>>16996287
Not really tbqh, Spengler is extremely unique in that regard, and was criticised heavily by mainstream intellectuals like Weber for doing so.

>> No.16996364

>>16996279
Technological collapse or Faustian expansion into space /lit/?

>> No.16996369

>>16996282
cope harder

>> No.16996391

>>16996287
Feliks Koneczny but he's arguably worse and definitely less influential than Spengler. You can find a copy of On Plurality of Civilizations on the internet

>> No.16996392

>>16996355
criticised by others for schematising all of history into a grand metanarrative*
Is what I meant to say

>> No.16996408

>>16996287
Evola

Except for his underestimation of the role race would play in the future.

>> No.16996421

>>16996408
This is what /pol/ actually believes

>> No.16996442

>>16996282
Why not read both, and compare Spengler's Prussian-Socialism with Marx's International-Socialism? You could synthesize their merits into one new philosophy.

>> No.16996445

>>16996408
Evola and Spengler have fundamentally contradictory worldviews. Evola believed in perennialism entailing a recurring cycle, Spengler put forward a linear view of civilizational cycles where while predictable cycles occur over the lifespan of a civilization, once it's dead, it's dead, with no return to a golden age.

>> No.16996454

>>16996294
Lmao cyclical nature of history. Right.
>>16996282
Read both. Spengler was a decent historian as well as Marx.

>> No.16996479

>>16996364
Try reading Jason Reza Jorjani. His Prometheist Manifesto would be a great introduction to his philosophy, which could alternatively be called Faustian Futurism.

>> No.16997763

>>16996479
Jorjani believes in remote viewing and other superpowers. I don't understand what so many people see in him, especially Imperius.

>> No.16998563

sex gifs

>> No.16998954

>>16996442
Extremely redpilled

>> No.16999124

>>16996279
is that the judge from Blood Meridian

>> No.16999879

>>16996355

Weber was the father of sociology, Spengler was a dilettante that made a grand narrative about history.

>> No.16999904

>>16996279
retroactively refuted by pitirim sorokin

>> No.16999968

>>16996279
>Isaac Schraeder

>> No.17000008

>>16999904
redpill me on him, what are the differences between Sorokin's and Spengler's account of cultural dynamics and where do I start with Sorokin?

>> No.17000042

>>16999879
Weber was wrong about everything and created one of the most cancerous pseuderies in history

>> No.17000069

>>16996279
Who? Hank Schrader?

>> No.17000089
File: 62 KB, 570x712, spengler_360x450.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
17000089

>>16996279
Oswald Spengler, pbuh

>> No.17000116

>>16996282
>t. someone Marx considered racially subhuman

>> No.17000132

>>17000008
the crisis of our age. it is a short book. sorokin explains the historic cycles (3 stages) and criticizes spengler's biological analogy

>> No.17000221

>>16999879
>Weber was the father of sociology
And? Weber and Spengler were involved in very different projects so making some appeal to status/authority is pretty redundant.
Just parroting the 'dilettante' insult that Weber himself used against Spengler does not really add anything substantive criticism.

>> No.17000228

>>17000042
I agree, the ideal types lead to nothing

>> No.17000242

>>16996287
Weininger

>> No.17000243

>>16999879
The intelligent aspect of weber is his nietzcheanism. Regardless of what he said. His theory of bureacracy came to be close to spengler. Weber believed that democracy couldn't exist in modern state

>> No.17000263

>>16996279
Isn't that the cop from breaking bad? Feels like he was pretty shit at his job so...

>> No.17000330

>>16996445
>Spengler put forward a linear view of civilizational cycles
How could you be so wrong, when it's a key factor in his writings that civilizations are stuck in perception..?