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Anyone who’s above average IQ has seriously considered suicide at least once

>> No.17039144
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17039144

>>17039138
>IQ
Literal pseudoscience. Kys.

>> No.17039177

>>17039138
>IQ
horoscope for smelly STEM virgins.

>> No.17039185

>>17039177
>>17039144
t. Navigates life without seeing patterns

Must be amazing.

>> No.17039192

>>17039185
Who cares? We're dead tomorrow.

>> No.17039195

>>17039138
Maybe. But for vast majority, it's completely emotional and not based on a rational reason to stop living.

>> No.17039197

>>17039138
It's the only philosophical problem worth considering, after all.

>> No.17039208

I consider it almost every day. I must be a genius.

>> No.17039214

>>17039138
IQ is correlated with happiness.

>> No.17039249

>>17039214
inversely correlated, the smarter you are the more depressed u are

>> No.17039257

Everyone thinks of it. It doesn't make you smart

>> No.17039264

>>17039249
No, it's a sad retard cope.

>> No.17039275

>>17039264
How intelligence, population density, and friendship affect modern happiness

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/bjop.12181

>> No.17039276

>>17039264
No I do believe it's generally true, doesn't mean all depressed people are smart though, most people are depressed for retarded reasons

>> No.17039280

>>17039185
None of them said that, they just understand that IQ is a terrible end all be all measure for intelligence and a lot of it is nonsense

>> No.17039285

>>17039214
my dick is correlated with your mom's ass, nerd

>> No.17039300

>>17039275
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22998852/

The simplest and most famous study.
It does not contradict with my day to day observation too.

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>>17039300
I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE!!!

>> No.17039309

>>17039275
>paywalled
This is why Scihub is winning.

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>>17039307
>>17039285
>>17039276
Sorry b.
You're not a depressed genius, you're just a sad cunt, probably dumb at that.
Btw the environmental factors influencing IQ most likely concerns in utero development and at best early childhood.

>> No.17039331

>>17039309
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/evolution-made-really-smart-people-long-to-be-loners?utm_source=pocket-newtab

There ya go buddy.

>> No.17039338

>>17039280
Only low IQ people become so bothered that they believe it is considered the end all be all.
>>17039192
It's shockingly likely for me

>> No.17039339

>>17039331
WTF this is me! i'm a loner lol!

>> No.17039365

>>17039138
I think everyone considers it

>> No.17039371

>>17039339
Calm down, it's a short article. I know you can do it.

>> No.17039382

You underestimate how many stupid or sub average people think about killing themselves. The moments you have of pure death drive are more intense

>> No.17039394

>>17039138
I was a suicidal incel but they loaded me up on jew pills which killed my sex drive entirely so I don't think about it anymore.

>> No.17039401

>>17039382
The personal bias that offers the resounding "yes" to continue living is freely attained by stupid people

>> No.17039428

>>17039214
It could be that being depressed just makes you less able to perform well on a test because depression is highly correlated with general anxiety. So the problem could entirely be the measurement and not the thing being measured.

>> No.17039484

>>17039138
IQ as a social system just rewards drones, its easy to self report, easy to turn into a simple objective ranking system, easier to have your number be bigger and therefore better. Its no different than teenage girls being proud of having autism or bipolar or any person becoming attached to their clinical mental diagnosis. It doesn't take into account HF (humanity factor), its why there are many so-called high IQ individuals who are either not high IQ or score low on the humanity factor despite having computer like brainpower. I think its more the former.

>> No.17040405

>>17039177
thought that was the INRetard thing

>> No.17042128

>>17039138
ofc

>> No.17042174
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>>17039208
Yes you are a Genius now kys pls.

>> No.17042187

>>17039185
>woah im such and sensitive inteligence
Everyone notices patterns you fool, stop being a teenager

>> No.17042205

>>17039185
kys schizo autist

>> No.17042224
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17042224

Der ächte philosophische Act ist Selbsttötung; dies ist der reale Anfang aller Philosophie, dahin geht alles Bedürfnis des philosophischen Jüngers, und nur dieser Act entspricht allen Bedingungen und Merckmalen der transzendentalen Handlung.

The real philosophical act is suicide; this is the real beginning of all philosophy, every desire of the philosophical disciple points towards it, and only this act encompasses all preconditions and attributes of transcendental action.

>> No.17042240

>>17039138
I consider suicide multiple times a day, but I won't act on it as I love my mother and grandmother too much. Once they're gone, I don't know. I'm 28 and still a kissless virgin. I'm not even fat or ugly.
>Was at casino with friends the other day
>Think to myself I could easily dive off the railing to the second floor and die
>Don't want to ruin everyone's day
>Have a lot of guns, don't really think about it unless I have a pistol near me
>I could just jump off one of the many bridges near me
It's so easy, and the thought of my life just abruptly ending by my own hand is intriguing. Alas, I won't do it. I've been like this since at least 5th grade.

>> No.17042287

>>17039280
What do you imagine intelligence is?

>> No.17042327

>>17039185
>navigates life without determine real patterns
IQ is shit, it's a sociological truth that is tried to made to adhere to the biological. Whatever comes out to be the most representative of our being won't be IQ or even a biological or material truth.

>> No.17042339

>>17042240
>only 5th grade
also
>friends
fucking normalfags

>> No.17042378

>>17042339
>>17042240
>>17039208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3yrWmQRCbk
:)

>> No.17042395

>IQ is shit, it's a sociological truth that is tried to made to adhere to the biological.
When a number calculated through observing the manifestation of the performance of the brain in relation to certain tasks can predict practically everything about someone its pretty safe to infer biological differences as a key variable at play in the variance of these numbers among the population.

>> No.17042398

>>17042385
That's the thing, as long as it's corellative and not causative you know it's not framed correctly. It's just worshipping a false idol in a sense. It's not actually God if it's not predictive of God except in partial senses.

>> No.17042403

>>17042395
Here you go >>17042398

>> No.17042411

>>17042398
>as long as it's corellative and not causative
You can infer causation from correlation depending on whether or not you can come up with a mechanism by which it would.

>> No.17042423

>>17042398
>It's just worshipping a false idol in a sense. It's not actually God if it's not predictive of God except in partial senses.
You're gonna have to be more concise than this. How does psychometrics imply anything metaphysical?

>> No.17042431

>>17042411
Then you'd be able to find out where it's not causative and where it would be. This being said it wouldn't be iq as iq is a sociological truth and by definition a sociological truth can't inform a material truth.

>> No.17042436

>>17042423
Yeah it doesn't it's the relationship I was referring to not the subject-matter

>> No.17042440

>>17039208
Kep your chin up. If you feel it is becoming overwhelming or becomes too real, please seek help. I know the thought of doing so is terrifying, and it won't be a quick fix, but it will eventually result in you feeling much better.

>> No.17042446

>>17042431
>Then you'd be able to find out where it's not causative and where it would be.
Yes.
>This being said it wouldn't be iq as iq is a sociological truth and by definition a sociological truth can't inform a material truth.
Sorry? How come sociological research can't inform understanding of the material world?

>> No.17042447

>>17042339
>not pretending to be friends with people so you can have leverage should you need something, and use them to make money off of

>> No.17042455

>>17039138
I consider suicide constantly but that has nothing to do with my IQ.

>> No.17042519

>>17042446
It must conform to the material world but its beholden to it while the material informs the sociological yet it's not beholden to it. Over our history "genius" has been redefined and reformalized on different variables. Until we find what is the material that can then inform the sociological and it may end up looking entierly different from what you meant besides overlaps. It's okay to do individually to find what's prior but not as a group of learned men much less a species.

>> No.17042523

>>17042446
>>17042519
I can give an example, Nietzsche supposes "genius" is by the ability to rise outside macrocultural constraints and succeed in them. IQ is instead to be believed as aplastic.

>> No.17042550

>>17039138
125
Nope

>> No.17042600

>>17042447
>being born with high Machiavellianism
>not just being a turbo autist who cant make friends
Also they're exploiting you more then you them; why else would they be friends with a loser like you?

faget

>> No.17042662

>>17039138
True. I am a midwits and I have considered ending myself for good. Did not happen though.

>> No.17043106

>>17039331
funnily enough, the image of the 'very smart' person and their social preferences correspond very closely to my own experience (except the experience of being unaltered by urban environments, i hate the city), yet i am completely convinced that my intelligence is middling, something which (online) IQ tests have ''confirmed'', as i very often find myself dissatisfied with and unfulfilled by social interactions, both what i receive from the person but also with my own responses to said reception.

>> No.17043122

>>17039138
anyone who's above average suicide has seriously considered IQ at least once

>> No.17043136

>>17039138
I don't think that's true. I'm below average IQ, and I have also considered suicide.

>> No.17043710

>>17043136
Brother welcome to our high IQ club... patrician. (=

>> No.17043897

>>17039185
What if he sees patterns but still thinks IQ is shit?
IQ is just designed to find whether you have any brain problems and it's only noticeable in extreme cases, like sub-80 IQ means you are definitely a retard and above 140 IQ means you are a definitely a genius

>> No.17043908

>>17039138
I get about 130 from most tests.
I once thought about suicide, but ultimately decided that it's far too much of a pain. I'll just continue living until my time comes. If I had an option to return to the womb, though, I would immediatly do it.
As a side note, I also considered crossdressing as I think my life would be nicer if I was a girl, but I soon realized that I would never pass.

>> No.17043940

>>17043908
Do you really have 130 IQ? Because I mean, if you returned to the womb you would be born again...

>> No.17043964

>>17043940
It's a selfish desire for a moment of warmth.
And anyways, I could live my childhood, the best part of my life again. And maybe make better decisions.
But in the end I just want to go back to the womb, and stay there.

>> No.17044010

>>17043964
Have you considered developing a reverse vaginal vore fetish?

>> No.17044013

>>17039138
Not literature

>> No.17044023

>>17044010
I don't want any more fetishes, I already have a loli fetish.
Though I once read a giantess doujin that involved vagina eploration, and I liked it

>> No.17044037

>>17039138
I'm low IQ and I consider suicide 24/7.
My mother also tells me I'm handsome and smart, but everyone knows this is just her feeding her delusions.