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You can recite poetry can't you /lit/? https://youtu.be/BHoAQW_DBI4

>> No.17045345

I love this video. The most based that Peter Hitchens has ever been.

>> No.17045366

>>17045338
>spiritual desert
Based Hitchens shitting on the plebians

>> No.17045379

I can remember a few lines from Invictus.

>> No.17045384

I only have one poem memorized: Byron's "So We'll Go No More a Roving."

However, I also have multiple speeches and soliloquies from Shakespeare memorized, which I figure is just as good.

>> No.17045466

>>17045338
>Step aside, Peter.
https://youtu.be/VzJQ0TcBmqU

>> No.17045488

>>17045338
Multiple Rudyard Kipling poems. It's kind of awkward if someone asked me to recite poetry and I had to whip out White Man's Burden.

>> No.17045517

>>17045488
>Awkward
Sounds pretty chad to me

>> No.17045529

>>17045338
I have memorized nearly two hundred poems. Can't recite for shit though. Might take theater classes at some point to learn how to properly recite.

>> No.17045544

>>17045338
Not a fan of Hitchens but that shit was based

>> No.17045621
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17045621

>>17045345
I think this is up there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuhkgiTJnBs

>> No.17045635

>>17045338
of course not. schools cut funding for the arts.

>> No.17045736

>>17045621
lol please post more based hitchens

>> No.17045894

>>17045621
Is this at the Cambridge Union Society?

>> No.17045934

>>17045736
you asked for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDtIZZiySgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsMU77TwYM0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-Vuh7puWfchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xb7iUHLrms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oac_O5u3Dnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98MZKLa6Rus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4BlX6PQvtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67JK_Yt93Q4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5va8cL7zqo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K6BpVqw-jc

>> No.17045953

>>17045894
oxford

>> No.17046045
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>>17045934
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>> No.17046182
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17046182

>>17046045
of course he can
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxWPkpcfzl8

>> No.17046235

>>17045934
fantastic.

>> No.17046296

>>17045345
>>17045366
>>17045544
>>17045736
you retards sound so fucking gay

>> No.17046370

>>17046182
kek

>> No.17046388

>>17046296
post bussy

>> No.17046407

>>17045466
What if Boris had just become a uni teacher instead of a politician?

>> No.17046415

>>17045338
This is one of the only poems I have memorized as well, haha

>> No.17046425

>>17046407
He would be fucking at least 2 undergrads and a PhD student a year, and be much happier.

>> No.17046458

>>17046296
lol ok virgin

>> No.17046489

>>17046296
Cringe

>> No.17046553

>>17046045
What if Peter Hitchens were PM?

>> No.17046565

>>17046296
I'm thinking you're based

>> No.17046586

>>17045934
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDtIZZiySgA
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsMU77TwYM0
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-Vuh7puWfc
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xb7iUHLrms
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oac_O5u3Dnc
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98MZKLa6Rus
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4BlX6PQvtY
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67JK_Yt93Q4
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5va8cL7zqo
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K6BpVqw-jc
FTFY

>> No.17046681

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxJHMH2IMvw

>> No.17046734

>>17046182
Isn't it fascinating that the two men were the most in favour of not having civil partnerships, yet at the end of it the two women were making eyes at him and pointedly making him aware that they would both be open to marrying him...

>> No.17046846

i know two robert frost poems, one stephen crane poem, and 1 verse of a phillip larkin poem. i also know all the lyrics to the complete beatles discography.

>> No.17046864

>>17045338
I can, but mostly because of so much time spent studying the bible. I worked on remembering important verses so that I didn't always have to go back and look them up

>> No.17046893

>to pour scorn on these things is to declare yourself a spiritual desert

everyone that spoke other than hitchens was a spiritual and intellectual desert.

the school system is terrible though. if i had chidlren i would want to homeschool them. pubilc school is a meathouse, at this point it's just a place people take their kids so they can go to work in peace.

>> No.17046895

>>17045338

Things like this + boris make me yearn for a true British aristocracy

>> No.17046915

>>17045338
I can for the most part (depending on my memory any given day) recite Anthem for Doomed Youth by Wilfred Owen, Whitman's poem about animals, Hamlet's first soliloquy, and part of Poe's The Raven, which I meant to memorize in its entirety but it's rather long and I got bogged down doing other stuff. My favorite poem is probably Adonais by Shelley, but that's also impracticably long to memorize.

>> No.17046933

>>17046893
>the school system is terrible though. if i had chidlren i would want to homeschool them.
homeschooling has its advantages, but it can be lonely for the child or teen, unless they are home-group-schooling.

>> No.17046945

>>17046681
https://mobile.twitter.com/QuarantineBozza/status/1273354504956792835
Enjoy.

>> No.17046967

Why would I? I can just open the source material from my phone anytime anywhere and read from there

>> No.17046991

>>17046933
The social aspect of schooling is probably more important than learning its various subjects. The world of successful white collar workers is run by people who know how to navigate social settings well, not necessarily by people who can write perfectly or who know history and geometry.

>t. anon who was home schooled for 12 years.

>> No.17047014

>>17046933
Who the fuck cares. Homo.

>> No.17047030

>>17045466
holy shit he knows it in greek

>> No.17047150
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17047150

Is 'Unconventional Wisdom' worth buying? He admits that older 20th century journals would've allowed for longer essays and articles... he writes well enough, but they aren't proper essays of 10-15k words...

>> No.17047172

>By October 2001, Mr Blair was pledging to intervene all over Africa. "The state of Africa", he thundered, "is a scar on the conscience of the world."

>> No.17047181

>>17046991
Plenty of people go through large schools without developing proper social skills.

>> No.17047196

Just read the blog post about American train stations... very apt description but damn is it short... I was hoping for a more novelistic approach

>> No.17047202

>>17047196
or a poetic approach even

>> No.17047211

>>17047172
If only I could go back to 1996 and find a bus to push blair under.

>> No.17047235

>>17047181
Sure, but if you have fewer social interactions you'll be less likely to develop proper social skills.

I can definitely see the allure of home schooling, since the current milieu and mainstream messaging seems, well, evil. And the teachers of young children are mostly women, and therefore impressionable this stuff and spreading it on to the children they teach. That said, social adroitness is probably the most valuable gift you can give your child, and that's less likely to happen if they don't spend their formative years around many other children.

>> No.17047236

>>17046296
practising homosexual moment

>> No.17047250

>>17047030
You can find entire videos of him going on about Greek and Roman history. It's kind of surprising but perhaps not entirely—after all, he did go to the world's most prestigious boy's school and then to Oxford.

>> No.17047314

>>17047235
Teacher (male) here. The whole "kids become spergs if they're homeschooled" thing misses the point. Historically kids were socialised just as part of a normal day. They interacted with people of all ages in various different contexts, work, church and even just playing. Kids today are so badly atomised that we can only ever incidentally get them socialised through school aka industrial child warehousing. School has the same dynamics as prison. It breaks down along racial, cultural, clique and popularity hierarchies. It is all about staying on top for some and staying out of sight for others. The social dynamics of school do not in any way prepare you for real life, where for instance, there are actual consequences for your actions. School is a brutal place for most people because they're locked in arbitrary cohorts and forced into useless routines. As I say, it has more in common with prison than anything else. A child is more likely to pick up anti-social than pro-social tendencies in schooling. By home schooling you are putting your kids on the edges of society. They will never have the status and rubber stamps needed to get ahead. I believe a better quality of education can be provided in small groups or to individuals, but this is not the world we live in. My advice to anyone reading this would be to send your kids to a private school if possible. Do not allow the state zog indoctrination to get to them. Failing that opportunity, just try insulate them from public school as much as possible. Even to the point where you tell them to largely ignore certain subjects. Because regrettably in the historical cul-de-sac we're in there is no alternative right now. I'm a teacher because I want to try tip the scales just a little bit in the opposite direction. It is a losing battle

>> No.17047384

>>17047314
Excellent post. How would you change the system if you could?

>> No.17047416

>keeps the stuff about ADHD in the recent book
>ignores the pandemic
why?

>> No.17047438

>>17047314
very well put together post, thank you for your contribution.

>> No.17047456

>>17047314
>As I say, it has more in common with prison than anything else.
Institutionalisation.

>> No.17047485

>>17045338
Yeah, three.
Jabberwocky, Invictus, & the Prophecy of Gondor.

>> No.17047508

>>17047384
The curriculum needs to be completely redone. The orientation over the last few decades has been ostensibly towards making school more and more about "what you're gonna need in the work force." You see it in the OP's video with the Q&A tards. Traditionally, in the British grammar school system etc. there was an emphasis on values and physicality. Yes, you need to know how to read, write and do mathematics (funnily enough those scores plummet year by year with our current progressive technocrat led curriculums) but there is so much more. I believe in two seemingly contradictory things 1. The value of the old school emphasis on order, the classics, rote learning, sport and religion 2. Almost Montessori style holistic learning. So the practical changes I'd make would be a bit all over the place but that is where my reasoning comes from. I believe Britain had an excellent education that produced heroes and visionaries - so it can't have been too bad, until the 1950's onwards. I also believe it had some failings by being too rigid and these can be corrected by synthesising the seemingly at odds holistic approaches. Off the top of my head a few things I'd implement would be
>Pivot back to learning classical languages, great literature, great poets and "1066 and all that" sort of history not the social science scatterbrains approach to history we have now
>Emphasis on pushing limits both physically and intellectually. Think Gordonstoun
>Make teaching a prestigious position in society again (yes I'm self interested) by removing all the tramp stamp Stacey's from teaching your kids To Kill A Mockingbird for 7 years. Actually force teachers to have some life experience too rather than hiring 27 year olds who have only ever known part time work + study + living at home. I believe children are well within their rights not to respect many of their teachers given how low quality they are
>Finally, but it is a broad stroke to make - make the goal of education to be to develop someone fully as a man or woman rather than helping them choose what busy work career they want. This is why stuff like poetry isn't superfluous at all. Let's make a generation of whole, confident and assertive citizens not passive, bored, consumers

>> No.17047573

>>17047508
Agree 100%. I think the zeitgeist is shifting and this is on the way, even if it takes a few decades. What we have now cannot stand

>> No.17047593

>>17046296
post bussy

>> No.17047681

>>17047573
I mean it is optimistic to think this will be the direction for the masses. I am vary concerned by the trend towards the weird black american racial narcissism and political and gender wackery in schools. Even Eton isn't immune to it. Regrettably that is just going to keep going until it hits a hard wall somewhere I think. My vision would be for financially independent schools to either be established or for previously established ones to be recaptured and then set on this course. It will be a balancing act trying to push for reforms while staying kosher with the state mandated requisites though. The one thing we can do is use these schools to pass on knowledge, attitudes and values that should hopefully then make it through to the other side of this historical moment we're in.

>> No.17047689

>>17047573
I haven't worked in schools in over a year but this zeitgeist doesn't seem to be shifting at all. Teaching as a profession is practically a vocational course these days, with a myriad of training programs like TeachFirst and SCITT providing a pipeline for any idiot desperate for an easy career path. The exams are getting easier, the tedious pointless busywork of peer assessments and book marking getting more numerous, and the students being placated to more and more. Teaching for the test is the core pedagogical practice in British schools with little deviation. Intervention for those who are struggling is rote and mostly unsuccessful. Support for the brightest is non existent. More specifically for this board, the very subject of English is being devalued day by day. I honestly feel that there's a good chance literature won't be on the curriculum in ten years time.

>> No.17047704

>>17046681
>laststraightwhiteguy.jpg
Colorized

>> No.17047743

>>17047681
>Even Eton isn't immune to it
What's the deal with that guy who got thrown out recently?

>> No.17047770

>>17047689
>I honestly feel that there's a good chance literature won't be on the curriculum in ten years time.
People laugh at you for getting buttmad about twatter or back in the day tumblr blue hairs hot takes. But they really are crystal balls. Stuff that in 2014 was exclusively obsessed over by /pol/ and only existed on tumblr is now policy. Twitter libs today are fairly regularly saying stuff like "why do we have to learn Shakespeare its boring???" and "ummm these old books by dead white males are racist much???"

There is basically no attention to grammar these days but it still kinda kicks on in a token sort of way. I don't think literature will be totally gone they will just substitute Shakespeare for "How black folx built Britain (which is also a racist entity)." We have to shut down American cultural influence it is going to destroy us

>> No.17047796

>>17047743
>What's the deal with that guy who got thrown out recently?
He seems to have been a pretty alright teacher. Certainly not harmful by malice or negligence like most teachers. I think he may have been a bit into the Peterson shit which is cringe. But look, you'd rather the "self author your way to a 330kg deadlift" teacher than "Becky has a hangover so its free time today" teacher. Especially if you were paying Eton fees. Basically, the headmaster is a weasel who while I don't know much about seems determined to push Eton along the new elite power path. I.e. American woke politics. Which is actually almost in keeping with the Eton ethos of breeding the new leaders. Out with Kipling in with Ibram X Kendi for the new ruling caste

>> No.17047803

>>17047770
I'm neutral on brexit for this. perhaps we might be more driven towards them or perhaps hey will ignore us more because we aren't such an entryway into europe?

>> No.17047815

>>17047796
>Out with Kipling in with Ibram X Kendi for the new ruling caste
he's going to destroy the ruling class completely, that shit is toxic mind rot.

>> No.17047824

>>17046586
Russel Brand getting exposed for the child he is is quite satisfying.

>> No.17047997

>>17045338
Jesus what absolute faggots

>> No.17048085

>>17045338
Does that bald guy at the start look a bit Jewish?

>> No.17048113

>>17045338
OK is it me or did the brown haired woman contradict herself at 1:35
she suggest's not important to learn about the kings of England but then on the next breath says we need an understanding of why we are where we are
surely the monarchs and their legal actions are one of the best ways to explore that very history?

>> No.17048154

>>17047803
Special relationship was always a joke even in Churchill's time. The terrible thing about being a native English speaking country is that you will be forever getting the full blast of what ever American neurotics are up to. Brexit is irrelevant to that. Australia is as badly impacted as the UK in that regard.
>>17047815
>that shit is toxic mind rot.
really puts in to perspective the 90's/00's "I don't see colour we are all one human race :))))" stuff you probably grew up on.

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>>17045338
Palgrave's Golden Treasury of Verse for anyone who is interested is a wonderful pocket guide to English verse. Great place to start memorising some Milton or Spenser

>> No.17048330

>>17048235
>Palgrave's Golden Treasury of Verse
I'll look into it, thank you. What about British Essay Collections or Short Story Collections?

>> No.17048414

Just the one:
Whose woods these are I think I know
His house is in the village though
He will not see me stopping there
To watch his woods fill up with snow

My little horse must think it queer
To stop without a farmhouse near
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year

He gives his harness bells a shake
To ask if there is some mistake
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep
But I have promises to keep
And miles to go before I sleep
And miles to go before I sleep

...I wish my mind was furnished with more of this.

>> No.17048428

>>17048330
Btw the first edition of Palgrave's treasury ended obviously at the publication date in the 1850s. I have a 1940s edition which includes the great poets like Tennyson, Kipling, Elliot, Pound etc. who were written in the years after. I recommend getting a mid-20th century edition so you can have the original edition + the great modern poets in one volume.
>What about British Essay Collections or Short Story Collections?
Honestly don't know what to recommend. If you have a favourite author I would try find an older box set or single volume. What sort of authors/essays were you wanting?

>> No.17048438

>>17046182
>5 people on screen
>only Peter Hitchens is white
The absolute state

>> No.17048466

no but i can recite the entirety of the state and revolution while lifting

>> No.17048486

>>17048428
Well there's one edition of George Orwell's Essays, Journalism and Letters from 1945-1950... which includes notes on Pleasure Spots, and the Politics of Starvation, etc. Maybe the best written Post-War essays including the Suez Crisis and up to about 1975, along with more recent British essays on technological developments over the past 45 years, particularly essays or stories which consider what home computing did to change British society. I heard of some wild British novels dealing with the internet, but essays and short stories may be more to the point... again, it's a shame that so many journals stopped publishing them.

>> No.17048492

>>17048154
I have lamented for a long time that our language is the tool of global trade, it is so hard to escape it all or find local news
I envy those with a strong national press and have english only as a second language
can you imagine what it's like trying to find things related to your locale but forced to wade through second language speakers butchering your tongue and proselyitising

>> No.17048537

>>17048113
>OK is it me or did the brown haired woman contradict herself at 1:35

Yeah I caught that too. She basically says history isn't important to learn from then says history is important to learn from.

>> No.17048561

>>17048537
>She basically says history isn't important to learn from then says history is important to learn from.
She means history from the perspective of whitey or that history that doesn't shit on whitey = unimportant to learn. Learning about how blaqs invented nuclear power and discovered oxygen = real and valuable history

>> No.17048615

>>17045338
tell me not in mournful numbers
life is but an empty dream
for the soul is dead that slumbers
and things are not what they seem

life is real and life is earnest
and the grave is not the goal
from dust thou art to dust returnest
was not spoken of the soul

not enjoyment and not sorrow
is our destined end or way
but to act that each tomorrow
finds us farther then today
But you and all of the kind of Christ are ignorant and brave
and you have wars you hardly win and souls you hardly save
I tell you not for your comfort ye not for you're desire
save that the sky grows darker yet and the sea rises higher
night shall be thrice night over you and heaven an iron cope
do you have joy without a cause ye faith without a hope?
but he of the swollen purple throat and the stark and staring eyes
waits for the holy hands that took the thief to paradise
and a broken and a contrite heart the lord will not despise

the man in red who reads the law gave him three weeks of life
three little weeks in which to heal his soul of his souls strife
and cleanse from every blot of blood the hand that held the knife

and with tears of blood he cleased the hand, the hand the held the steel
for only blood can wash out blood and only tears can heal
and the crimson stain that was of cain became Christs snow white seal

>> No.17048814

>>17046991
This

t. anon who was unschooled (AKA extreme neglect)

>>17047181
And even more go through public schooling without developing proper social skills.

>> No.17048845

I have no idea if I recite it properly but I still do every January 25

>> No.17049454

>>17047689
There are certainly a number of things taking place. One thing to consider, and I’ve seen one study on this, is the effect that the opening of additional professions to women has had on the quality of teaching. That is to say, highly educated women previously had fewer career opportunities, and so became teachers because it was acceptable. Perhaps now these high ability women pursue more lucrative careers elsewhere, say in law or medicine, and so the quality of teachers has suffered. This likely is only one part of the problem, though, but a part nonetheless.

>> No.17049484

>>17048561
Perhaps. I’m not sure if that’s how it was working in her mind, but who knows. She curtly dismissed the study of kings, as though it was trite knowledge of individuals without acknowledging that these were the most influential figures in the country at their given time. It may not have been a racial thing so much as she didn’t understand how much influence men like Henry VIII had on history in England. She is right that people would benefit from a study of history (particularly since human motivations don’t change much over time), but failed in understanding the importance of the monarch historically as though it is some form of trivia or something.

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>>17046553
All marijuana users drawn and quartered. Everyone else under 30 is encouraged to immigrate to Japan

>> No.17049846

>>17046182
Incredibly based

>> No.17049894

>>17046945
DANGEROUSLY based

>> No.17049943

>>17045338
Absolute chad

>> No.17049987

>>17045466
>>17046407
>>17047030
>>17047250
Alexander Johnson, who uses "Boris" as a stage name, but in private is called "Al" by his friends.

>> No.17050063

>>17046893
>everyone that spoke other than hitchens was a spiritual and intellectual desert.
And the best part was that they realized it as he spoke and they felt ashamed of it

>> No.17050239

>>17046296
Post poem recital faggot

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17050242

Based Hitchens.

>> No.17050249

>>17048492
My thoughts exactly. With the rise of social media the British have been 'globohomod' to a further extent

>> No.17050277

>>17047508
>the tramp stamp Stacey's from teaching your kids To Kill A Mockingbird for 7 years

Tfw too relatable. I did well in English Literature but that's because it was so easy.

>> No.17050295

>Be brief.
>Be polite.
>Be acid.

>> No.17050313

>>17047815
>>17048154

One thing that I have never understood, is that this takeover of British politics and culture by what is essentially black American racial narcissism (and everything educational moving left year by year) has had little to no resistance.

Many of the people who are aware of this are -- to use a Marxist term -- essentially just proletariat, and there needs to be a vanguard to lead them. I know all these modern developments are generally following the trends of Western societies, but brexit bazza from a former mining town or right wing Steven who sits in his room posting memes all day, aren't going to be the type of people who form resistance in the institutions against this.

Basically what I'm saying i am surprised and annoyed that there are fewer 'Hitchens' out there to stop the Americanisation.

>> No.17050329

>>17050313
To add something, as much as I understand the modern Tory party are no friend of the common (right leaning) man, I am still quite annoyed, as they were supposed to be the bulwark against all the rubbish we're now seeing. Not some cheap imitation of Happy clappy New Labour .

>> No.17050391

>>17049484
She's a Labour MP, she was definitely trying to give it the racial and guilt-ridden angle

>> No.17050467

>>17050313
Look into what happened to Roger Scruton, they have systematically defanged the right wing in preparation for what they are doing now.

>> No.17050495

>>17050467
Yes but what we're all those on the right doing whilst those on the left (to put it simply) were gaining institutional power? Scruton was sacked due to the power the current zeitgeist holds. I'm talking about 10 or 20 years ago.

>> No.17050533

>>17050495
in the mid nineties after the fall of the ussr the social sciences took a hard shift left, they would literally purge out those with a right wing bias
this is what Jordan Peterson was talking about.
Proper study of the social scienceses is quite important for social movements.
Since the left now controls the ideological agenda and the BBC has been super leftist for an age, but too few on the right realised what was happening

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>>17050313
>Basically what I'm saying i am surprised and annoyed that there are fewer 'Hitchens' out there to stop the Americanisation.
Americanisation comes in the form of film, teevee, music, social media, celebrity culture even fashion and food. It is so insidious and unstoppable that their insane racial hysteria just seeps through in the same channels. You would have to go full East Germany (or maybe Iran) mode to quarantine Americanisms or a regime to treat them like the pathogen they are. Enoch Powell and ironically to a lesser extent Heath are the only modern people from the British right to understand the threat America is

>> No.17050713

>>17049484
When dealing with women liberals while ignorance is assumed, malice should also be assumed when they have a position of authority. I think she understood perfectly well the implications of what she said irrespective of her general knowledge of British history

>> No.17051052

>>17050313
>the hated Peter Hitchens
>>17050242
>>17046945

This is a good reason why.
Peter gets away with a lot of things because of his Trotskyist youth, his experience in the Soviet Union, his uncompromising anti-racism of the colourblind variety which he can back up with a history of activism, and the fact that he's willing to be left wing on non-cultural issues like railways and healthcare.
Peter Hitchens is basically the nice guy that means well but that you strongly disagree with, and this is why he gets invited by the BBC and put on a panel with 5 New Labour-types, so that it can seem like the BBC is allowing a broad spectrum of voices.
It's not easy to find a niche for oneself like that. And even so he is hated, protested, deplatformed and all the rest.

>> No.17051102

>>17051052
Oh, also, I think he's gone too far with his anti-lockdown stance and won't be invited again, once all of this is over.

>> No.17051356

My uncle went to York uni with Hitchens. Apparently he was a serial tranny bonker.

>> No.17051385

>>17051356
Your uncle or Hitchens?

>> No.17051388

>>17051385
Hitchens.

>> No.17051475

>>17051385
My uncle. Hitchens remained pure until marriage obviously

>> No.17051607
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>>17049987

>> No.17051667

>>17051607
You can feel him judging you

>> No.17051699

>>17050699
>Enoch Powell and ironically to a lesser extent Heath
That is a surprising comparison.

>> No.17051712

>>17051388
Peter or Chris?

>> No.17051764

>>17051712
The one who went to school at York obviously.

>> No.17051849

>>17051764
So your uncle.

>> No.17051871

>>17051849
Yes, my uncle.

>> No.17051914

>>17051356
What counts as ‘serial’? 5? 50?

>> No.17051973

>>17051356
what's wrong with that? so the man likes bangers with his mash.

>> No.17052145

>>17047150
this pic is the 21st century version of a Renaissance painting

>> No.17052456

>>17052145
>Reddit

>> No.17052457

>>17046182
gosh that dumb bitch to the right of Peter pisses me off, she hates marriage because she wants to whore around, disgraceful

>> No.17052476

>>17051914
I think he meant specifically Jewish trannies (so ones with serial numbers on their arms; this was the 1970s), not necessarily that there was a protracted sequence of them. Sounds like anon’s uncle was quite the bugger.

>> No.17052539

>>17045366
Unfortunately he lives in the anglo heartland where the merchant spirit is supreme. Their whole kingdom is one spiritual desert.

>> No.17052617

>>17047508
A major thing I think that impacts students is the building. All of the schools where I live were built in the 50s/60s, they're hideous, they command no respect, it's no wonder people destroy the place.
I heard of a plan during Blair's era that would have had most schools rebuilt, obviously that never happened, but it would have been nice to see.

>> No.17052653

>>17047250
He also studied Classics

>> No.17053120

>>17045934
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xb7iUHLrms [Remove]
WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY.

>> No.17053194

>>17046734
Women will never EVER admit it to themselves but they prefer right-wing men to left-wing men. This is because, though of course there are exceptions, as a whole right-wing men tend to have more machismo, more charisma, more aggression, and more intensity, all of which women actually like. Women like men who act like men, basically, and right-wingers tend to do this to a greater extent than left-wingers, at least since the 20th Century.

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>ctrl+f "chris"
>1 mention
are people starting to forget him?

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>>17053194
>at least since the 20th Century
this is very true. wtf happened to macho leftist?

>> No.17053575

>>17052457
very immoral

>> No.17053657

That is a good little clip.

>> No.17053668

>>17053657
meant for
>>17053120

>> No.17053794

>>17053219
Nationalism became problematic to the internationally cosmopoliton elites.

>> No.17053797

>>17046945
>https://mobile.twitter.com/QuarantineBozza/status/1273354504956792835
thats fantastic, is anyone able to make a webm of that?

>> No.17053827

>>17046945
>His (Peter's) IQ is above all the people behind the police... combined.

>> No.17053953

>>17053120
>We live in a society
Barely.

>> No.17055006

Bumping

>> No.17055059

What might fascinate people is the link between sexual repression and productivity.
If like some monk you aren't masturbating all that repressed energy is redirected into other pursuits.

>> No.17055067

>>17047508
when i was in high school there were people in the final year that could barely even read. it was embarrassing when they had to read out loud. school is just shit and doesn't take into account the individual needs of each student.

>> No.17055117

>>17047150
Absolutely, one or two of his articles are a bit repetitive but the rest are golden.

>> No.17055165

I miss Christopher Hitchens, His acerbic wit and global fanbase would have been an unimaginable headache for the "woke"

>> No.17055206

>>17045338
I can resite some and what Hitchens says on the video is correct.

>> No.17055289

You’ve got to love him lads

https://youtu.be/67JK_Yt93Q4

>> No.17055656

>>17052539
it really fucking is bereft

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>>17055165
I think about this all the time.

>> No.17057178

I can recite “alone” by Edgar Allan Poe

>> No.17057227

>>17057178
From childhood’s hour I have not been as others were
I have not seen as others saw
I could not bring my passions from a common spring
From the same source I have not taken my sorrow
I could not awaken my heart to joy at the same tone
And all I loved, I loved alone
Then-in my childhood- at the dawn
Of a most stormy life was drawn
From every depth of good and I’ll
The mystery which binds me still

From the torrent, or the fountain
From the red cliff on the mountain
From the sun that found me rolled
In its autumn tint of gold
From the lightning in the sky
As it passed me flying by
From the thunder and the storm and the cloud that took the form
(When the rest of Heaven was blue)
Of a demon in my view—

I think that’s it exactly

>> No.17057436

>>17045338
I got asked this a couple o times
I made up a one for myself on the spot (can do that really quick without it beeing bad but it would b mediocre in englisb otherwise id attach one) and the person believed me it was from said author
Got me hooked and i purposely led conversations to this topic after if it was alread about literature.

>> No.17057576

>>17045934
Why does Russell seethe so much? Does Hitchens live in his head rent free?

>> No.17057750

>>17053213
>>17055165
>>17056419
Wrong thread fellas.

>> No.17057954

>>17057750
I’m not looking around for other ones right now.

>> No.17058430

>>17057576
Apparently when they were making Russell's drugs documentary the director suggesting putting in this clip with Peter and Russell got all upset about it

>> No.17058442

T H E M A I L O N S U N D A Y

>> No.17058539

>>17045338
He BTFOed them so hard that LIGO registered it on their instruments.

>>17048113
She probably meant woke history, anon. White man bad, etc.

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>>17045934
>red mists
kek

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>this is Hitchens' daughter
How did it go so wrong for him?

>> No.17058824

>>17058714
for real?

>> No.17058851

>>17058714
Ah, so that's why he's especially angry about the devil's lettuce. He does have a point though, and it's far stronger stuff now than when he was a lad.

>> No.17058925

>>17058714
Where the hell did you get that?

>> No.17058943

>>17058714
>Tattoo peaking out of the sleeve
Maybe she got hooked on skimmed milk by her dormmates at uni and it all went down hill from there

>> No.17059020

I met a traveler from an antique land who said:
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
stand in the desert Near them, on the sand
Half sunk a shattered visage lies whose frown
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command
Tell that it’s sculptor well those passions read, stamped on these lifeless things
The hand that mocked then, and the heart that fed
And on the pedestal these words appear:
“My name is ozymandias, king of kings. Look on my works, ye mighty and despair”
Nothing beside remains round that colossal wreck.
Boundless and bare, the lone and level sands stretch far away

Probably fucked up the spacing

>> No.17059028

>>17058714
kek what a basic bitch

>> No.17059044

>>17058714
Why can these guys never keep their daughters in line?

>> No.17059271

>>17045338
>everyone pretending like teachers are experts and intelligent
Some of the stupidest chicks I know became teachers

>> No.17059298

>>17057227
Holy shit...that's Poe. I literally read that poem before the class in grade ten or eleven.

>> No.17059303

>>17058714
Please God no...

>> No.17059331

>>17058943
Isn't it a bracelet?

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>>17058943

>> No.17059579

>>17059044
Conservatives have always failed to conserve anything. I love Peter but he will always be a doomer because his methods are so bleakly ineffective.

>> No.17059608

>>17059579
remove women from the vote?

>> No.17059789

>>17058943
Such wretched white water...

>> No.17059796

>>17059020
GCSE English tier poem, although a decent one at that.

>>17059271
That's part of the problem you mong

>> No.17059845

>>17059608
remove everyone from the vote

>> No.17059884

>>17047250
He also wrote a good biography of Churchill and he was a great journalist when he worked as a correspondent in Bruxelles, he's far from being a fool

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17059914

Would you give her a ruddy good bonking though?

>> No.17059943

>>17059579
>he will always be a doomer because his methods are so bleakly ineffective.
To be fair to him, I think he knows it himself. He has repeatedly said that the country is finished.

>> No.17059967

>>17059845
Absolute Monarchy?

>> No.17059998

>>17059579
Nat Soc time?

>> No.17060013

>>17045338
-To be or not to be?
-NOT THE BEES! NOT THE BEES!

>> No.17060072

Invictus by William Ernest Henley
I used to have it memorised but now I only seem to recall a few disordered line

In this fell clutch of circumstance I have not winced nor cried aloud
..out of the pit..
..black as pitch..
..from pole to pole..

I am the captain of my fate I am the master of my soul

>> No.17060080

>>17060072

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds and shall find me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul.

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>>17060080
>I am the master of my fate,
>I am the captain of my soul.

>> No.17060301

>>17058714
>>17059914
Where are you getting these from?

>> No.17060407

>>17060301
Her Instagram. I tried to follow her on my own account but she never accepted it. Made a fake Chad profile and was accepted within minutes.

>> No.17060599

>>17060080
Unequivocally based

>> No.17060709

>>17059914
Is Hitchens related to Churchill? Her face really reminds me of Churchill's

>> No.17060913

>>17060599
This
>>17060080
Holy fuck its like i wrote that i gotta look into whoever has written this.
Thanks for posting anon! And for letting me know people like this theme i was filled with doubts.

>> No.17060923

>>17060290
Kys

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45 of Mr. Hitchens on top form if you haven't seen it. An absolute blooter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUhm3_PW3qo&feature=youtu.be

>> No.17060962

>>17059914
Name?

>> No.17060966

>>17060962
Esther Hitchens.

>> No.17061098

>>17060923
>he likes Reddit poems

>> No.17061227

>>17059044
Idk. Christopher’s eldest son also seems like kind of a dunce.

>> No.17061346

>>17061227

all people do is drugs in uni, it ruins them mentally

t. developed drug induced psychosis in uni

>> No.17061393

>>17061346

also

my soul is awakened, my spirit is soaring
carried aloft on the wings of the breeze
for above and around me the wild wind is roaring
arousing to rapture the earth and the trees

the long withered grass in the sun shine is glancing
the bare trees are tossing their branches on high
the dead leaves beneath them are merrily dancing
the white clouds are scudding across the blue sky

emily bronte I think, pretty based

>> No.17061483

>>17060925
dude looks good for a 69 year old

>> No.17062026

>>17047030
Classics is literally the only subject he can talk about and not be a complete cringelord.

>> No.17062746

>>17060080
So what inspired Henley to write Invictus?

>> No.17062929

>>17046182
Holy shit those women are seething every time either of the men speaks. The host should have done something to cut down the constant interruptions every time the woman on the right took any reference of God or a happy marriage as a personal offense.

>> No.17063306

>>17059914
This was a popular look among the Harry Potter fans

>> No.17063316

>>17062026
Go back to twitter

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>>17059608
>remove women from the vote?

>> No.17063987

>>17063434
The 19th amendment and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

>> No.17064109

>>17060925
Are we about to go through a cultural revolution and great leap foreward?

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>>17064109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P23IE2ezdw

>> No.17064287

>>17050533
Liberal, not left wing. The only socialists left in academia are those with no power to implement real change ie Chomsky. A genuine Leninist would be out in an instant. There were never many conservatives in academia, even before the 1990's, but most of the genuine Marxists are gone too now.

>> No.17064719

>>17045338
no te detengas, alma, sobre el borde de esta armonía
que ya no es solo de aguas, de islas y de orillas
¿qué música?

¿temes, alma, que solo la mirada
haga temblar los hilos tan delgados
que la sostienen en el tiempo,
ahora, en este minuto enque la luz
de la prima tarde ha olvidado sus alas
en el amor del momento
o en el amor de sus propias dormidas criaturas: las aguas, las orillas, las barrancas de humo lueñe?
¿o es que temes, alma, su silencio,
o acaso tu silencio?
serénate, alma mía, y entra
como la luz olvidada, ¿hasta cuándo?,
en este canto tenue, tenuísimo, perfecto.

hope it was not too mistaken.

>> No.17064745

>>17064719
Neruda?

>> No.17064830

>>17064745
Juan L. Ortiz

>> No.17065711

>>17061098
It isnt a reddit poem only because people on reddit like it dumbfuck
Im here since 2004/2005 and never been to reddit so you weigh the redditors choice heavier than mine and the other anons therefore you are beeing an imposterous reddit fag yourself.
See how i played you. Now bow to my logic peasant

>> No.17065874

>>17062746
A life of suffering with TB

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>>17063987
>human race

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