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[Anonymous No.17046532]

Is this worth my time? Looking for criticisms strictly based on the content in the book and nothing about Jordan Peterson.

Thanks.

[Anonymous No.17046547]

>is it worth my time?
I don't know, are you the type of person who needs a big thick self help book to help you function as an adult?

[Anonymous No.17046560]

>>17046547
fpbp
Thread's over

[Anonymous No.17046599]

>>17046547
it's a short book lmao at your life if you think 12 rules is a big, thick book. fucking redditors

[Anonymous No.17046604]

>>17046547
You look at the average dude walking around out there and tell me they shouldn't read a few self-help books. Go on.

[Anonymous No.17046619]

>>17046547
Idk... I'm not arrogant to think that I have everything figured out. I don't see the harm in getting some help from another person.

[Anonymous No.17046618]

The Jews are right that Peterson should go to gulag, but not for reasons they say.

[Anonymous No.17046637]

JP is gay

[Anonymous No.17046665]

Yeah the book is fine. Clean your room and sit up straight. Don't slouch.

[Anonymous No.17046714]

CLEAN YOUR FORESKIN

[Anonymous No.17046725]

>>17046532
When you just flick through the book and read the titles of the rules, it seems reasonable enough. When you read the meat of the chapters, you gradually realize more and more how batshit this guy is. I'm not even talking about the lobster part, this one is comparatively sane.

[Anonymous No.17046740]

>>17046665
and eat with a knife and fork!
another one of Dr J Peterson's profound insights

[Anonymous No.17046789]

>>17046740
some niggas really out here eating with their fingers tho, youd be surprised. check your privilege nigger

[Anonymous No.17046802]

>>17046599
A self help book should be like 100 pages at most.

[Anonymous No.17046806]

the lobster thing is dumb but it's not a bad book.

[Anonymous No.17046808]

>>17046789
I eat with a spoon because otherwise Id stab myself

[Anonymous No.17046810]

>>17046532

I don't like Peterson's from a theoretical point of view, but if the question is simply 'is this worth my time?', then the real factor here is how much time would you have to invest in it?

[Anonymous No.17046818]

>>17046619
>Idk
yeah you dont know, fucktard

[Anonymous No.17047028]

>>17046532
No, just watch his lectures. He is a much better speaker than he is a writer.

[Anonymous No.17047048]

>>17047028

True

https://youtu.be/5ByiKU5zsDk

[Anonymous No.17047084]

Yes, give this one ago. Don't bother with Maps of Meaning, I did finish it but it wasn't worth it. It's best to judge Peterson by his own words. His opponents constantly misrepresent him and even lie about some of the things he is supposed to have said.

[Anonymous No.17047169]

>>17046547
BUT THE DRAGONS OF CHAOS

[Anonymous No.17047208]

>>17046714
NEVER

[Anonymous No.17047222]

>>17046532
the only thing I learned from it is that Martin Luther King Jr should've really picked up in his room before trying to get black people voting rights.

[Anonymous No.17047230]

>>17047028
They're alright as long as you don't take the Jungian mumbo jumbo too seriously

[Anonymous No.17047759]

>>17046532
There are some good lessons and points in the book, but it's hidden behind the craziest analogies and stories. If the writing wasn't the biggest clusterfuck in history I'd recommend it

[Anonymous No.17048770]

>>17046532
lol. This book has some solid advice iirc, but nothing Marcus Aurelius or some youtube vids couldn't teach you. Don't waste your time

[Anonymous No.17049120]

He's not a great writer, the points he makes are obvious but reading / listening to him creates a sense of urgency to improve and take life more seriously.

[Anonymous No.17049164]

>>17046532
Nah, it just reiterates themes he explored elsewhere. The Art of Worldy Wisdom by Balthazar will help you infinitely more than this book.

Listen to a Peterson Biblical Lecture or some of his early podcast for better info. By the time he wrote this he was overexposed in media and spiraling out on a benzo addiction so its not his best work. Maps of Meaning is interesting

[Anonymous No.17049187]

Peterson's 12 Rules is an amazing work! Specially the way he reconciles science and religion, it's extraordinary, specially if you're familiar with his references (Carl Jung, Nietzsche, Dostoevsky, archetypes, etc) this book is a very good summary of what he teaches in his lectures.

also check out his Bible Series, it's an amazing perspective on the whole Genesis stories and a truly enriching one!
cheers anon

[Anonymous No.17049226]

>>17046532
it's worth your time if you want to be told how to live your life by someone who eats only meat and became addicted to benzos

[Anonymous No.17049241]

fuck this book, how was maps of meaning

[Anonymous No.17049576]

>>17046532
I have a few problem with this book:
1. Jung is pseudoscience
2. Peterson doesn’t understand postmodernism.
3. Talking about cheating like it’s a big deal.
4. He is quoting Nietzsche all the time except when he is speaking about religion
5. Christianity

[Anonymous No.17050256]

Just listen to the audiobook, he cries while reading it

[Anonymous No.17050274]

Why do people need other men to tell them how to live life?

[Anonymous No.17050293]

>>17050274
yes

[Anonymous No.17050308]

No, it's needlessly obtuse. Peterson has to spend a dozen pages beating around the bush to get the simplest point across and even then he keeps it as vague as possible. Reading the chapter titles will give you 80% of the books content.

[Anonymous No.17050324]

The only good part is where he tells you to stop being girly and how women who focus on their career are retarded. Gave it a 3/5 on goodreads.

[Anonymous No.17050454]

No, it was just a bunch of midwit psychological advice mixed with demonstrably false Christian conservative mythology

[Anonymous No.17050480]

https://youtu.be/-5RCmu-HuTg

Just watch this instead. it's the abridged version of the book as a talk, which is what JP is actually good at.
I was absolutely fascinated by the video when I watched it high

[Anonymous No.17050810]

I've read it, but you can open the table of contents, read the chapter titles and you've probably gotten 95% of the book.

There is some interesting stuff in there, but his christian influences, jungian pseudoscience, and hypocritical conclusions about the entire "leftist post-modern marxists'' as a singular ideology is constantly slipped in-between a few very obvious ideas and basic 'rules'. Peterson's lectures share this problem, but because of his stance on SJW's I feel he has been a gateway to the entire fucked-up world of self-help for a lot of men, so watch his videos with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous No.17050862]

>>17046532
I don't love Peterson, but all of the criticism I have seen, including that from this thread so far, is such garbage. I see the book as more of an analysis of humans today than the self-help book everyone memes it as. Even if it was, he is a clinical psychologist, so it's not like it is coming out of nowhere. Don't know if any of that means anything to you.

[Anonymous No.17050896]

>>17050862
The "rules" are all "common sense" bullshit though.

[Anonymous No.17050927]

>>17050896
yes

[Anonymous No.17051228]

has some good general advie that most people would agree on. the problem with this book (and many of his lectures) is that he tries to build a bridge from political history, philosophy and sociology to his advice which can be very misleading and misinformed.
Take anything he says with a grain of salt and please don't pretend that he is free from any ideology. Research those historical events that he mentions. He's not a historian nor a philosopher.

[Anonymous No.17052036]

>>17046547
real adults know that they don't fungshion becoz of gabbidal

[Anonymous No.17052095]

>>17046532
I abandoned it 30 pages in. It legit feels like a crappy self help book.

Might re take it because I feel kinda guilty abandoning books.

[Anonymous No.17052104]

Juden Peterstein