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What if everyone in the world read Nietzsche and applied to their life his teachings?
What would happen?

>> No.17137783

Syfilis epidemic

>> No.17137790

horrible things would happen because brainlets misunderstand him
see Hitler
If brainlets were a minority then I think people would be happier

>> No.17137834

everyone would be tranny

>> No.17137850

>>17137834
>everyone would be tranny
But with moustaches

>> No.17137972

>>17137775
Same thing that happens when more and more people get access to the internet: they learn nothing or they become neurotic. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

>> No.17138069

>>17137775
well atheists are already nihilist.

Nietzsche created nihilism when he said there is no god, no facts and just opinions.

>> No.17138081

>>17137850
based

>> No.17138102

>>17137775
everyone will become become a narcissistic maniac for example this generation.

>> No.17138114

redd*t: the society

>> No.17138131
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17138131

But who is Ubermensch?!

>> No.17138134

>>17137775
mostly genocide

>> No.17138138

>>17137790
Assuming you are not a brainlet

>> No.17138152

>>17138131
the creative nothing of Stirner

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>>17137775
Reminder

>> No.17138191

>>17138156
I think it is that haircut what makes it cringe more than the lack of moustache

>> No.17138196

>>17138156
what is your point?

>> No.17138251

>>17138069
What a fucking brainlet. Read Nietzsche again, idiot.
Hahaha oh my god "Nietzsche created nihilism" hahahahahhaha holy shit the absolute state of the people who post in this board hahahahahha

>> No.17138271

>>17138069
Yes, Nietzsche was one of the biggest nihilists out there. I don't know why people like him.

>> No.17138276

>>17137775
The world would be even worse than it already is, miraculously enough.

>> No.17138291

>>17138069
cope

>> No.17138309

>>17138251
Cringiest shit I've read all day.

>> No.17138323

>>17138309
>C-cringiest shit I've read all day.
Cope, brainlet!

>> No.17138351

>>17138251
yes, this is the state of /lit/
a bunch of pseuds chriscuck larpers who don't even read
>/lit/ is still considered one of the smartest boards on 4chan
this is the only thing that truly makes me sad

>> No.17138366

>>17138351
I'll pray for you

>> No.17138395

as much as I like Nietzsche, probably 99% will believe themselves to be above the herd

>> No.17138415

>>17138351
Tbh the state of the other boards rn I still wouldn’t be surprised. /lit is about 95 in my approximation

>> No.17138425

>>17137775
Functionally they did. Most people can't handle nihilism and you basically get the modern world.

>> No.17138428

>>17137775
he didn’t supply any teachings, he was talking about figuring things out for yourself.

>> No.17138457

>>17138425
>nihilism
Herd-man reading of his philosophy.

>> No.17138505

>>17138428
so we finally have a non trolling answer from a poster who has the slightest idea of what he's talking about?
damn, I underestimated /lit/ once again

>> No.17138515

>>17137775
It would be like an anime where edgy teens are the heros.

>> No.17138533

Is Nietzsche considered a nihilist? From what I read of him I don't like him, even though some of his writing can be interesting. To me Nietzsche seems to appeal to our basest instincts. Be a warrior, kill, dominate others. It's egoism. I think he even admits that.

People who apply his teachings to their own life would probably be like Gordon Gekko rather than Hitler

>> No.17138542

People will become like Ernst Jünger.
He was the only true follower of Nietzsche.

>> No.17138560

>>17138542
some, obviously

>> No.17138654

>>17138533
Nietzsche was more of an observer of nihilism, which he understood as an ongoing event, an epoch in human history. If he espouses nihilism it is in a positive and active sense, an encouragement to commit oneself totally to life in the sense of amor fati--loving one's fate. This stands in opposition to today's passive, reflective nihilism where many see themselves as victims of circumstance and squander opportunities.

>> No.17138699

>>17138654
>Nietzsche was more of an observer of nihilism, which he understood as an ongoing event, an epoch in human history. If he espouses nihilism it is in a positive and active sense, an encouragement to commit oneself totally to life in the sense of amor fati--loving one's fate.
That just sounds like Stirner's concept of conscious egoism. An enlightened selfishness in which the individual does actions for their own sake knowing their fate is death, not being afraid of the possibility of nihilism, but embracing as a new way of going at life - a creative nothing.

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>>17138069
>atheists are already nihilist
are they? there aren't other ways to surpass nihilism? Like art, for example.

Also, why do you say Nietzche "created" nihilism? He just take nihilism as a subject. He was a great vitalist, totally opposed to nihilism and the affirmation of >>17138271

>> No.17138782

>>17138533
>To me Nietzsche seems to appeal to our basest instincts. Be a warrior, kill, dominate others. It's egoism
What's there not to like about this? There isn't really an alternative. Humans not overcome these things in thousands of years, and likely not to.

>> No.17138868

>>17137775
there would be more things to consider in life, passionate honesty and accountability would be higher in our value system

>> No.17138892

>>17137775
Plenty of dick sucking and no time for girls.

>> No.17139218

>>17138782
>What's there not to like about this? There isn't really an alternative.
He seems to be 4chan's favorite philosopher, so it would be futile to argue against it.

But it is easy to see beyond Nietzsche and find a better way. I honestly feel very sorry for people who think Nietzsche's stance is admirable. They probably weren't loved enough as a child.

>> No.17139641

>>17137775
This thread answers you question indirectly. What would happen if everyone got access to universal education and every book in the world? Retards would still be retards. See thread.
>Hurr durr le neetch was le neeheeleest
What would happen if everyone read Nietzsche? Nothing would change. Absolutely nothing.

>> No.17139660

>>17137775
it would be like /b/ irl with trollfaces and cock monglers running around screaming shoop da whoop and im firin mah lazar

>> No.17139924

>>17137775
>what would happen?

Extinction. Cause: being a bitch.

>> No.17139941

>>17139218
> find a better way.
If only "better" wasn't a nominal value of human psychology
>They probably weren't loved enough as a child.
People who don't apperciate Nietzsche were obviously sheltered as a child

>> No.17140010

>>17138351
Lit hasn't been considered the smartest board in years.

>> No.17140079

>>17140010
this
now its /qa/

>> No.17140170

things would somehow get even worse

>> No.17140236

>>17140010
>one of the smartest

>> No.17141413

ubmp

>> No.17141437

>>17137775
A bunch of retards misunderstand him (most), and there would be staunch divides between those who are pro and anti him, though neither understanding, and then the same ol boomers who don't give a damn and just want the humanists at the barbeque.

Until someone forces everyone to stop reading him and to instead read Plato and 60% of everyone's problems becomes solved.

>> No.17141443

>>17137790
>Hitler misunderstood Nietzsche
Do you people never understand useful appropriation for ones own ideas?

>> No.17141455

>>17137775
Was he an Muslim? Why do you mentioned him here?

>> No.17141468

His philosophy would actually turn around.

>> No.17142018

>>17138131
Definitely not these two edgelords. It’s so disappointing that these talented and intelligent young men’s legacy is a cautionary tale about the effects of childhood abuse and the danger of the arts and philosophy when left open to interpretation by wayward souls. Be better than them, /lit/.

>> No.17142087

>>17138715
Art is a blessing from the Divine giving you the power to create and manifest that divinity through your Art.

>> No.17142104

>>17141443
Hitler probably understood Nietzche, but more than anything I think he and the machine behind him understood how easy it is to manipulate naive, angry, and disenfranchised people that don’t yet have the capacity or critical thinking skills to comprehend convoluted subjects and concepts. Instead of actually educating their population, they knew that spoon feeding the people whatever interpretation of Nietzche that would best align with their desired ends would help them better consolidate power and gain support. Knowledge is power, don’t be a sheep.

>> No.17142107

>>17137790
how did Hitler misunderstand him lmao

>> No.17142122

>>17138156
what a fucking incel lol

>> No.17142177

>>17142087
So an atheist can't create art? I'm sorry if I don't get your point.

>> No.17142182

>>17142104
Nietzsche was actually already thinking of a political system akin to Hitler's. From Will to Power:

>Good Europeans that we are—what distinguishes us above the men of fatherlands?—First, we are atheists and immoralists, but for the present we support the religions and moralities of the herd instinct: for these prepare a type of man that must one day fall into our hands, that must desire our hands. Beyond good and evil—but we demand that herd morality should be held sacred unconditionally. We hold in reserve many types of philosophy which need to be taught: possibly, the pessimistic type, as a hammer; a European Buddhism might perhaps be indispensable. We probably support the development and maturing of democratic institutions: they enhance weakness of the will: in socialism we see a thorn that protects against comfortableness. Position toward peoples. Our preferences; we pay attention to the results of interbreeding. Apart, wealthy, strong; irony at the expense of the "press" and its culture. Worry lest scholars become journalistic. We feel contemptuous of every kind of culture that is compatible with reading, not to speak of writing for, newspapers. We take our accidental positions (like Goethe, Stendhal), our experiences, as foreground and stress them to deceive about our depths. We ourselves are waiting and beware of staking our hearts on them. They serve us as hostels for a night, which a wanderer needs and accepts—we beware of settling down. We are ahead of our fellow men in possessing a disciplina voluntatis. All strength applied to development of strength of the will, an art that permits us to wear masks, an art of understanding beyond the affects (also to think in a "supra-European" way, at times). Preparation for becoming the legislators of the future, the masters of the earth, at least our children. Basic concern with marriages.

To put it bluntly, the more I read of Nietzsche, the more I see that Hitler understood him better than history's writers let on.

>> No.17142264

>>17142182
theres more than one nietzsche really, he evolves and devolves from book to book

>> No.17142315

>>17142182
That was published well after he went insane, even one year after he died. While it might be indicative of his later post syphilis philosophy, it's not the nietzsche that everyone knows and talks about when they say nietzsche

>> No.17142428

>>17137775
More discipline, less veneration of slave morality.

>> No.17142438

>>17138069
>Nietzsche created nihilism when he said there is no god, no facts and just opinions.

t. undergraduate who's never read Nietzsche

>> No.17142702

>>17142182
>Implying hitler wasn’t just a mouthpiece

>> No.17142825

>>17142315
>That was published well after he went insane, even one year after he died.
But it was written while he was still perfectly sane. It's not even incompatible with the rest of his philosophy, because he's talking politics there.