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ITT: Proof that you have read this book

>> No.17256192

also,
scenario 1
>all major power exist
>the war is still ongoing
scenario 2
>only oceania exist
>all major power don't exist
>oceania is just giga-sperg north korea
>the war just a propaganda
scenario 3
>all major power exist
>they simply ruled by a single unified entity
>the perpetual war is simply created to control the masses

>> No.17256193

>>17256157
i read it. ill get my mom to back me up

This is mother typing. He read it.

>> No.17256203

>>17256193
kek

>> No.17256231

>>17256157
>Proof that you have read this book
blacked

>> No.17256239

>>17256157
I tried to read it as a kid but there was an icky sex scene.

>> No.17256243

>>17256157
Idk, 2+2=5 or something. I think the main character's name is Winston.

>> No.17256255

>>17256157
Uh idk that part about the kids snitching on their parents was crazy bro. It was a pretty bad book. Uh also the rats was woah so scary omg he ratted on the girl omg it fucking sucked. Is that proof enough?

>> No.17256257

>>17256239
O'Brien record it and fap to it jealously

>> No.17256260

>>17256157
Most people use the adjective Orwellian in an Orwellian way

>> No.17256264

>>17256157
He a simp

>> No.17256265

>>17256243
Isnt that the gorilla from overwatch?

>> No.17256281

>>17256192
I mean, scenario 2 and 3 sure sound like neat conspiracies that would fit the regime, but I see no reason to believe either of them over scenario 1

>> No.17256292

>>17256255
The one thing I retained from reading this book as a teen was to never tell anyone my worst fear so no one could use it against me

>> No.17256299

>>17256281
still scenario 3 is kino and my headcanon

>> No.17256301

>>17256157
why would I read pop genre fiction

>> No.17256317

>>17256157
The broad Winston is fucking is hot but also kind of dumb.

>>17256192
I always assumed it was scenario 2 or 3 when I read it back in 7th or 8th grade.

>> No.17256338

>>17256157
Oceania is a society that realised that the key to remaining in power and avoiding societal change/revolution is to maintain a form of technological stagnation and perpetual conflict

>> No.17256398

>>17256299
Scenario 3 is already what is in the novel except instead of the superpowers being controlled by one megapower they just control their populations through perpetual proxy wars while staying in equilibrium and never prevailing. Basically he predicted cold war

>> No.17256414

I always check behind paintings for television screens

>> No.17256606

>>17256157
One of the best little scenes is the chocolate scene Winston remembers from his childhood.

Basically his mother has a chocolate bar and proposes giving half to Winston and half to his sister. Winston demands he should have it all. Eventually his mother says "OK, let's compromise" and gives him 3/4 and his sister 1/4.

A good description of life. Whenever two people argue it's always assumed that justice lies somewhere in the middle, and it rarely does.

>> No.17256610

i think i've read it twice, can't remember anything about it except the ending

>> No.17258214

I haven't. I just call people I disagree with Orwellian.

>> No.17258308

All women are whores. Even that quiet girl in the Junior Anti-Sex League who sits at the back of the Two Minutes Hate and always shouts "B-B" is most definitely a whore.

>> No.17258421

>>17256157
There was an anti-sex-league, and this was cool for the others

This is probably the only problem of the book (instead of being so boring), Orwell is anti-moral, so he thought that imposing a moral would be a "dystopia"

Poor Orwell... The State and its parasites destroyed moral and made people rebel against their own values

Demoralization
Destabilization
Crisis
Normalization

>> No.17258446
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17258446

The society is totalitarian but for some reason people can still take trains to the countryside, this is obviously Orwell self-inserting as a sentimental Englishman.

>> No.17258467

>>17256157
I would fuck the shit out of Julia. I would literally have hot commie sex with her every day regardless of what jew is running the world or not. Winston is a fucking weak minded little bitch for not sealing the deal and spitting in the face of that one guy for torturing the living shit out of him.

>> No.17258540

>prove you've read it
the scene where he fucks the ugly old toothless whore gave me a boner

>> No.17258570

>>17256157
winston camera room sexy brain games

>> No.17258635

>>17256157
The seashell that they shared, was it a seashell or a trinket fuck now it’s bothering me someone tell me

>> No.17258703

whenever the government does something bad i post how orwellian it is on twitter

>> No.17258722

>>17256398
>predicted
>2 years after cold war is generally agreed to have started
quite the oracle

>> No.17258741

>>17256157
There's a scene where Winston tries to count up the number of bricks in the walls of the cell where he's being held. I seem to remember Orwell talking about doing the same thing; maybe it was in "Homage to Catalonia."

>> No.17258768

>>17256157
The singing woman, the ugly, stocky singing woman.

>> No.17258773

>>17258768
this always stuck with me

>> No.17258780
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>>17256157
The sex scenes were great.

>> No.17258790

>>17258780
the fuck is that

>> No.17258812

2+2=5

ahaha

>> No.17258815

>>17258722
nobody knew it was going to be a cold war. back in the 60s and the 80s everyone was convinced we all were on the brink of nuclear annihilation
in 1948 the two blocks were outlined and already started antonizing each other, but no one had any idea how the inevitable war would have played out. you can't really talk about proxy wars before the korean war

>> No.17258832

I was surprised at the proles actually having freedom. It seems like the kind of live that a lot of people want to live since they're careless hedonists.

>> No.17258861

Twitter censorship is Orwellian

>> No.17259511

>>17256157
I read it so I know it's a bad book and don't praise it like the retards who haven't

>> No.17259515

>>17256157
The title is misleading, it’s actually about another year entirely

>> No.17259533

>>17256157
You can turn down the volume on your viewscreen, but you can't turn it off.

>> No.17259548

Coomers get the rope

>> No.17259619

>>17256157
Daily hate which is just twitter btw

>> No.17259772
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Patrician level: Prove that you've read this

>> No.17259873

>>17259772
My favourite anecdote from HTC:

Orwell was constantly frustrated by the total incompetence of his own side. One example was the use of passwords. The central party committee used to choose and disseminate the passwords, but they were mostly educated people whereas the footsoldiers were often illiterate peasants who spoke a different dialect. One time, the password was "heroisme" (heroism) but this was a fairly intellectual word in Spain at the time. One guy didn't understand it. "What does this mean?" he asked.
"Oh, it's just 'valiente'" they said ('valiente' is the more everyday term).
"Oh right" he said.
So he goes out on patrol or something and when he comes back the guard shouts "Password!"
"Valiente" says the rustic.
BANG goes the guard.
Fortunately, says Orwell, the guard missed the bloke entirely, at a range of about ten yards, because no-one on his side could hit anything at all.

No wonder they lost.

>> No.17259952

>>17259619
oh I wish twitter retardation could last only two minutes

>> No.17260455

Winston has a sore on one of his ankles

>> No.17260492

>>17258812
Correct, comrade. I see you know your math well. Note, however, that for authorised personnel, in a scientific context, e.g. rocket scientists fulfilling their duty to the state by calculating the trajectories of our magnificent army's intercontinental missiles, it might at certain times be necessary for them to temporarily operate under the 2+2=4 paradigm. Clearly nonsensical, I know, and a grave heresy for the laypeople. At mathematics on a level this advanced these things happen; it just happens to work out that way. But do not worry, for like as with imaginary numbers, all the strange math cancels out in the end, and what we are left with is just the party-conformous, beautiful parabola our missile will follow, on its way to obliterating our enemies bases and settlements. Do not think so much about those scientific matters which confuse the greatest of our scientists even, comrade, be glad that it is them, not you, tasked with wrapping their brains around this advanced research -- you, my friend, would be going mad within days. It's for your own good you are being kept in benevolent ignorance. All hail the Big Brother!

>> No.17260506

>>17258812
Correct, comrade. I see you know your math well. Note, however, that for authorised personnel only, in a scientific context, e.g. rocket scientists fulfilling their duty to the state by calculating the trajectories of our magnificent army's intercontinental missiles, it might at certain times be necessary for them to temporarily operate under the 2+2=4 paradigm. Clearly nonsensical, I know, and a grave heresy for the laypeople. At mathematics on a level this advanced these things happen; it just happens to work out that way. But do not worry, for like as with imaginary numbers, all the strange math cancels out in the end, and what we are left with is just the party-conformous, beautiful parabola our missile will follow, on its way to obliterating our enemies bases and settlements. Do not think so much about those scientific matters which confuse the greatest of our scientists even, comrade, be glad that it is them, not you, tasked with wrapping their brains around this advanced research -- you, my friend, would be going mad within days. It's for your own good you are being kept in benevolent ignorance. All hail the Big Brother!

>> No.17260507

>>17256157
I remember it being boring and bland to the point I am not even sure I can convince someone I've read it, but I kinda liked the scene where one of his coworkers drones on about how the system works, not critically, but even with glee and Winstons like "yeah he is not gonna make it there is too little pretense in him"

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>>17260506
>>17260492
how do i delet double post

>> No.17260661

>>17256157
winstons first wife kathrine was lobotimized/broken just like julia was. the reason winston doesn't know of her death/suicide is because the party doesn't want him to.

>> No.17260743

>>17256157
I like when the old men crying scene comes back near the end but with Winston instead.
And no, not the crying in the ministry of Love.

>> No.17260794

>>17256157
the ass was hot

>> No.17260827

I always like to imagine the party as being like a single organism. Also collective solipsism doesn’t actually seem too crazy to me

>> No.17260846

>>17256157
I have a high school diploma

>> No.17260899

I still call shittily rolled cigarettes, or those made with dusty or dry tobacco, 'winstons'

>> No.17260915

Aninal farm was better

>> No.17261647

victory gin

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>>17259772
Orwell failed to steal that telescope and that's why Franco won.

>> No.17262370

>>17256192
For some reason I always assumed scenario 1 and that all the other powers had developed the same kind of rule over their peoples.

>> No.17262510

>>17258790
Hispanic tradition to be and absolute cunt to your siblings/children because they are 3rd world niggers. Its a custom where they shove your face into your birthday cake like haha tricked you but the kids just cry and the whole family laughs at the tears.

>> No.17262625

>>17259873
Weird. You completely misrepresent Orwell's writing, but you do reference enough specific details accurately that it's clear you have actually read the book.

>> No.17262647

The middle section on the creation of Doublespeak was so fucking boring oh my god

>> No.17262659

>>17256157
I literally couldn't get past page 150 or so, it's so fucking boring.

>> No.17262663

>>17256157
Good pussy can break a real nigga

>> No.17262828

>>17256193
It would have been better if you said:

This is larry's mother typing.

>> No.17262850

The first 2/3 of the book was boring but the end was cool.

>> No.17262869

>>17256157
If the party agrees that I have read the book, then I have read the book. I also, may have not read the book depending on the will of the party.

>> No.17263127

>>17256157
The roastie wears some sort of virginity sash but is unsurprisingly a huge whore. Also, you will love the bullet at the end when they're finished with you.

>> No.17263522

>>17256265
No that’s doomfist

>> No.17263761

>>17256157
Fuck the proles.

>> No.17263794

>>17256157
Politics and the English Language was better and much shorter. 1984ers are gay and annoying.

>> No.17263951

>>17263761
Wtf? If there‘s hope it lies in the proles

>> No.17263978

>>17263794
Its underrated for sure

>> No.17263998

>>17256157
>ITT: Proof that you have read this book
The prostitute had no teeth

>> No.17264017

>>17262510
Except that kid looked like the retard of the family and based on everyones reaction they did not want him to do that

>> No.17264031

>>17264017
Because you don't do it when the candles are lit like a fucking retard

>> No.17264036

>>17256265
He’s a scientist