Reading Philosophy at a Young Age is a Mistake

[Anonymous No.17282508]

Fuck you /lit/ for not warning me about this mortal disease.

[Anonymous No.17282514]

>>17282508
what happened?

[Anonymous No.17282518]

>>17282508

[Anonymous No.17282526]

>>17282508
No, actually not reading it is. Just at 22 I already feel it's too late for me. I wish I would have started in my teens.

[Anonymous No.17282530]

>>17282508

[Anonymous No.17282537]

>>17282508
I have said it before and I say it again. If you don't wish to be a philosopher, it would be a mistake to read philosophy seriously and canonically. Instead, pick the philosopher who appeals to you most, learn his system inside out, then move on with your life.

[Anonymous No.17282542]

>>17282508
I had a similar experience when I delved into metaphysics and buddhist philosophy in the same semester as an undergrad. It's great to learn and be aware of, but you have to be able to separate it from your daily life. You'll be ok. Just take a break from whatever you're reading and read something for for a bit. The feeling will pass and you can go back to it.

[Anonymous No.17282602]

>>17282508
aristotle warned you bro

[Anonymous No.17282637]

>>17282508
What did you read anon?

[Anonymous No.17282655]

>>17282508
I read Hobbes and Kant in high school, but I didn’t turn into a massive autismo

[Anonymous No.17282662]

>>17282655
>I didn’t turn into a massive autismo
and yet here you are

[Anonymous No.17282680]

>>17282537
>>17282542
>>17282602
Brainlet posts

[Anonymous No.17282686]

>>17282508
Then stop reading. Lift weights. Go out and play. Meet people. Or invite them over.

[Anonymous No.17282698]

>>17282655
>read Hobbes and Kant in high school
that's because you already were a massive autismo...

[Anonymous No.17282707]

>>17282508
I have read philosophy for eleven years since 16 to 27, and studied it in university for ten years, going through bachelor, MA and PhD. I have now almost entirely stopped and only read novels and poetry. Artistic uses of language are the only thing I find even remotely interesting at this point. Philosophy helped verbalizing important questions, but was almost always compeltely off in spoonfeeding you answers. Literature truly lets you think independently about the problems it presents. I would suggest you read literature alone, if it wasn't for the fact that people who do this are completely unable to think clearly when required.

[Anonymous No.17282733]

>>17282698
Why? Is being a massive autismo a mandatory prerequisite for them?

[Anonymous No.17282781]

>>17282514
>>17282637
The way Nietzsche described the horror of this world is ironically even more radical than Schopenhauer. All of his life affirming ideas make sense when you are drunk on ecstasy of life. But nothing lasts long and every thing crumble into dust when you sober up. Nietzsche broke into pieces and I have major respect for the people who proudly stand on their feet with honour. As a 3rd world poorfag his life affirming ideas do nothing for me.
Most of the people who truly understand Freud and Lacan they secretly know that there is no solution for human condition.
Blindpill philosophy is drenched in socio-political and cultural pessimism.
Wittgenstien and Heidegger have assfucked philosophy so hard that it never came out of the hole it went down nearly 100 years ago.
I don't want to talk about the brutality of philosophical pessimism.

I have learned from books rather than learning from experience. This highly conscious and serious state at such young age is suffocating. Now I am just books and totally cut off from which is in front of me.

[Anonymous No.17282804]

>>17282781
kek
at least read Cioran to justify your nihilism from now on

[Anonymous No.17282848]

>>17282781
Just stop reading, anon. And you don't seem to be uneducated. When I saw those things. Felt like I just had received the news of some terminal disease and got cured after a bit.

[Anonymous No.17282863]

>>17282848
kys pls and get the fuck away from this board.

[Anonymous No.17282873]

>>17282863
I don't care about your opinion.

[Anonymous No.17282973]

>>17282707
This makes sense.
Thank you.

>>17282804
I have read three books by Cioran.
I am no way saying that those philosophers nihilistic. That is just my reading of them. Sure, there are many solution which exist in those books but the solutions totally fail when I apply them onto my sorry surroundings but the pathology remains. This is the real pity.

>>17282848
Yeah I am going to take a break from all this. I will only read poetry from now on. Because the prose from my country is full of tedious social realism.

[Anonymous No.17283012]

>>17282781
>Most of the people who truly understand Freud and Lacan they secretly know that there is no solution for human condition.
I'd take all philosophy with a grain of salt but psychology especially with a fucking rock of salt. Psychology is pseudoscience and at best, poor philosophy. Don't take it too seriously.

[Anonymous No.17283066]

>>17282537
it doesn't work like that, you need to develop a system of knowledge to interpret your philosopher first otherwise it will mean whatever you want it to mean.
And at that point, there would be no reason to read philosophy.

[Anonymous No.17283069]

Based Greeks once again.

[Anonymous No.17283085]

>>17283012
How is psychology a pseudoscience?
How is psychology poor philosophy?

[Anonymous No.17283208]

The project of philosophy lead nowhere
It was a pipe dream
The best and most useful insights were picked up by science hundreds of years ago
Now it’s circlejerking for academics because it pays well for little work
I read Plato and Schopenhauer AS LITERATURE every once in a while and that’s mostly it
Proceed to another genre of literature

[Anonymous No.17283233]

>>17282781
The real takeaway of Wittgenstien is to chill the fuck out, calm down, go outside or something jesus.

[Anonymous No.17283234]

>>17283208
>midwit sharing the same pleb opinions again

[Anonymous No.17283373]

>>17283208
>Now it’s circlejerking for academics because it pays well for little work
Where is this wonderful place where an “art” career pays well?

[Anonymous No.17283413]

>>17283373
Academia
Being a tenured professor sets you for life

[Anonymous No.17283433]

>>17282518
Excellent, saved.

[Anonymous No.17283441]

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[Anonymous No.17283640]

Some of the early Christian apologists like Tertullian saw the folly that philosophy ultimately is. Already back then philosophy was a bunch of sects contradicting one another, with equally plausible assumptions, never reaching any conclusion. Only mythos or religion can really offer meaning and orientation for life. Unfortunately they were in the minority and some fathers thought it would be cool if only they had the “right” philosophy, leading to scholasticism and its “refutation” by modern philosophy, thus restarting the never ending process.

[Anonymous No.17283652]

>>17282530
Hah this nigga chillin

[Anonymous No.17283660]

Pic related: Tertullian
Al-Ghazali played a similar role with respect to Islamic theology, when he perceived that it was being corrupted by Hellenistic philosophy, itching, bitten as it were by the Socratic gadfly of never ending curiosity and idle contention, only he was far more influential than Tertullian.

[Anonymous No.17283686]

Philosophy is detrimental. Only absolute certainty founded on absolute truth counts for anything, unshakable faith in an idea.

[Anonymous No.17283797]

>>17282733
Yes.
>>17282707
Depends on the type of philosophy you read. You can always move onto ontology and metaphysics after you are done with the more vanilla inquiries.
>>17282781
>All of his life affirming ideas make sense when you are drunk on ecstasy of life. But nothing lasts long and every thing crumble into dust when you sober up.
I know how that feels. You can progress from here too, but you are needlessly hobbling yourself by accepting the ideas of psychoanalysis which limits your horizons to materialism and not even a good type of materialism. You might want to consult this chart that this anon has posted >>17282518. I glanced through it and a bunch of it is bullshit but some of the things here I like a lot.
>I have learned from books rather than learning from experience. This highly conscious and serious state at such young age is suffocating. Now I am just books and totally cut off from which is in front of me.
This is understandable, but don't forget that reading books and experiencing these crises in your mind is still a form of experience, if not a complete one. It's better to be more conscious than less conscious.
If you want my personal advice, you should view things from the perspective that experience in and of itself carries simple, supreme meaning. Also make room for about an hour or two of meditation a day - just be aware of your breathing, heartbeat, body and sense of balance. With some luck, some interesting things will happen eventually. If you can, try to structure your daily routine with an aim, too. Living according to a model of your own design will give your experience more form and therefore meaning. Stay strong anon.
>>17283085
Psychology is literally just a bunch of pretentious friends circlejerking each other over their "theories" of how the mind works. Other than antipsychotic medications etc it has contributed nothing to human life and has in fact had very damaging consequences in other ways.

[Anonymous No.17283812]

>>17283686
Wonderful, now please demonstrate what counts as absolute certainty, and how it relates to absolute truth, which also needs a little clarification. Oh, and do this without recourse to philosophy, naturally.

I'll wait.

[Anonymous No.17284609]

>>17283640
With no rebuttal there is just boredom.

[Anonymous No.17285446]

>>17283812
To attempt to do so is already to engage in philosophy. One must make a fundamental decision and act as if.

[Anonymous No.17285656]

>>17285446
Correct, which is exactly what I was trying to get at, but even making the claim that there is a choice between philosophical inquiry and some more foundational action-based decision making is itself philosophical. Kierkegaard arrives (broadly, before anyone jumps on me) at a position like this. I think you've taken the hyper-analytic wheel spinning of Anglos as the face of philosophy.

[Anonymous No.17285745]

>>17285656
Sounds like I will be reading Kierkegaard soon then.

[Anonymous No.17286165]

>>17282781
>there is no solution for human condition
There is. Technologically extinguishing it. Embrace Trans/XenoHumanism.

[Anonymous No.17286242]

>>17282973
>the prose from my country is full of tedious social realism
Latin America?

[Anonymous No.17287426]

I was reading Nietzsche, Foucault, Baudrillard, Heidegger, bits of Schopenhauer etc. at age 16. Grew up, went to college, have a great gf now. You can be happy, just get your head out of your ass. If nothing means anything, then neither should the gay existentialist bullshit texts you're absorbing. Why give them the power to make your life miserable when you could just chill and have fun.

[Anonymous No.17287432]

>>17282508
if you learned anything from philosophy more depressing than what you already figured out yourself, you're a death virgin

[Anonymous No.17287513]

>>17282526
Still plenty of time left, most philosophers don't write much of note before 40 or 50.

[Anonymous No.17287516]

Of course there’s much niggerkikery in modern so-called philosophy, but in the beginning, with Pythagoras, Parmenides and Plato, philosophy meant an ascetic discipline. All of this has been Jew’d out of existence though.

[Anonymous No.17287526]

>>17287516
Meds.

[Anonymous No.17287532]

>>17286165
hyperbased

[Anonymous No.17287535]

>>17282686
>Lift weights. Go out and play
dumb normalfag

[Anonymous No.17287558]

>>17282707
I only read philosophical fiction, it might not be "real" but it's as real as someone's thoughts, it's them putting their ideas into practice. Non fiction philosophy just feels too much like a rant, I can't get my point in to discuss it with the author. Good fiction however, will at least provide a counter point you can agree with.

[Anonymous No.17287589]

>>17282518
This picture is very old, as I grow wiser I can't read past the first paragraph.

[Anonymous No.17287603]

>>17283066
You're right and you don't even know why.

[Anonymous No.17287625]

>>17283797
Who are the pretentious circlejerking friends? What are some of the very damaging consequences?

[Anonymous No.17287628]

Started reading Marx at 14 AMA

[Anonymous No.17287633]

>>17282781
>As a 3rd world poorfag
Religion is made just for you. Go back to your roots or perish like the fucking brown skinned dog that you are.
There is no mercy from the truth to your state of being.

[Anonymous No.17287649]

>>17287628
Whats it like being 15?

[Anonymous No.17287693]

>>17287628
marx is pretty popular with kids.
did you understand him though?

[Anonymous No.17287695]

>>17283413
you're living 30 years in the past. Tenure doesn't exist anymore. Every academic is adjunct 30k a year, and every humanities department is being cracked open and cannibalized to keep the house of cards that is our economy functioning

[Anonymous No.17287706]

>>17287628
every zoomer does this now

[Anonymous No.17287709]

>>17287603
enlighten me
To clarify, my overall point is that you should aim to read for enjoyment, philosophy text or not. If you aim to read a philosophy in order to understand it the way it was intended, you are going to have a hard time learning his system inside and out without a prior developed system of knowledge.

[Anonymous No.17287745]

>>17287693
yeah, started with materialism and dialectics and went over to economics which was fine but dialectics I still try to grasp and apply to fully understand.
I studied with others together and it was a really eye opening experience. Reading and discussing marx and Engels work really helped me to develop an interest in understanding the world and trying to get into other philosophers.

[Anonymous No.17287759]

>>17282707
Sounds like you got filtered lmao you're not cut out for this.

[Anonymous No.17287886]

>>17282518
what's daoism but without the meaning?

[Anonymous No.17287946]

>>17282518
Evola is much more complex than the politics, he fits under the hallelujah with extra steps to make it the original solar and genuine heroic and not cucked conformist abrahamic dogshit.

[Anonymous No.17287985]

somewhat inclined to agree
getting real deep into free will / determinism fucked me up pretty good between the ages of like 18 and 23 and i feel i'm still suffering the consequences of it.

[Anonymous No.17288014]

>>17287633
>t. white "master race" who has achieved fuck all in his life
never change 4channel

[Anonymous No.17288071]

>>17287946
Evola isn't really a theist, though. It's complicated.

[Anonymous No.17288282]

>>17282508
Learned the hard way huh? If you're committed to studying and investing time and energy into philosophy it's because you have a compulsion.

[Anonymous No.17288354]

>>17282508
>faggot reads too many books
>becomes a groveling retard
Ahahaha many such cases

[Anonymous No.17289096]

>>17287745
your comment reads like a book report for English class

[Anonymous No.17290058]

Plato said so. You should have started with the Greeks, and he'd have warned you that philosophy ain't for young men. Only would be Guardians should indulge in philosophy, heavily, before middle age; since for them it comes intuitively.

[Anonymous No.17290559]

>>17287516
based, can't keep my boy Apollonius down.

[Anonymous No.17290608]

>>17283208
Philosophy isn't a project, its just an activity. Isn't it on the reader, that everyone has taken it to heart? did anybody have their arm twisted by the abstract notion of philosophy, and specific philosophers, until they agreed that philosophers were right, metaphorically speaking? At the point of answering these things, you are more or less participating in philosophy.

[Anonymous No.17290618]

>>17287628
People only like Marx because his name plays on the subconscious relation between symbolic sexual dynamics and language. For example: instead of marks, or marcks, we have 'Marx'. Instead of seks, or secks, we have 'Sex'. From the beginning, Marx has been germinating inside the minds of our young purely because of the letter 'x'.

[Anonymous No.17290635]

>>17287886
it already doesn't have it

[Anonymous No.17290668]

>>17282602
this, you shouldn't read philosophy before you're 30

[Anonymous No.17290787]

>>17282530
i hate miscegenation so much it's unreal