/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17349587]

>when you realize that Ancient Greece was as much of a cultural wasteland as now
>when you realize that the only reason people look at the current times as "culture-empty" is because people look at the past times in a distorted, contracted manner as all the 2500 years of history are now available to us in a single serving, while in reality actually impressive works have always been few and far between

[Anonymous No.17349595]

>>17349587
Why do you care? It is not like Ancient Greeks are alive.

[Anonymous No.17349596]

>>17349587
https://youtu.be/XJIWtWJjLUs

[Anonymous No.17349602]

>>17349587
Why is this a doomer thing? It’s just the nature of things, humans are prone to romanticizing shit.

[Anonymous No.17349607]

>>17349595
cuz it'd be better to think of the world as having been good for at least once in the past, instead of realizing that it's never been good

[Anonymous No.17349626]

>when you realize that Ancient Greece was as much of a cultural wasteland as now
no, not comparable at all, except of course you define "culture" as any product of a society and of course as we have internet and millions of content creators, we have a lot of units of "culture"

[Anonymous No.17349638]

>>17349607
KEK we have the fucking internet, how that is bad, anon?

[Anonymous No.17349657]

>>17349638
Its the same as ever, just a platform for all of peoples's dipshittery, hate, philanthropy and genius. Super mixed bag but a huge net positive imo. I get why some ppl wouldnt think so.

[Anonymous No.17349670]

>>17349657
I actually mean its the same as ever in that people are just as good and bad as they've probably ever been the most extreme parts just get amplified here

[Anonymous No.17349672]

>>17349587

> People nowadays screech about safe spaces and SJWs constantly, arguing for the need to return to the wisdom of the Ancients.
> But Socrates was literally put to death by a screeching mob of retard trying to create a safes space for their pedo culture.

Pic very much related.

[Anonymous No.17349673]

>>17349657
Yes, if you stick with the algorithm. Just get into something new, anon. You want to be spoon fed novelty. Back in the day we had to use search engines, there was no such thing as a google.

[Anonymous No.17349695]

>>17349673
I get it. Thing is you can find everything on the internet from hostage killings to gore porn to crowd funding to pay for cancer treatments. I'm no stranger to the internet you dirty boomer, we're on 4chan of all places

[Anonymous No.17349699]

>>17349672
He was killed due to popular belief in his involvement in the reign of the Thirty Tyrants

[Anonymous No.17349704]

>>17349602
I think the premise isn't inherently doomer, it's the implications one draws that can be

[Anonymous No.17349714]

blows my mind every time people idolize a society that literally had institutionalized kid fucking

[Anonymous No.17349720]

>>17349695
So why the fuck are you complaining? Just browse libgen and read something, then make an useful thread instead of this trash.

[Anonymous No.17349721]

The only thing /lit/ knows about ancient Greece is homosexual relationships, lol

[Anonymous No.17349727]

>>17349714
But boipussy, anon. KEK

[Anonymous No.17349745]

>>17349721
/lit/ supports local-homo not global-homo

[Anonymous No.17349766]

>>17349587
>>when you realize that Ancient Greece was as much of a cultural wasteland as now
pffffffft

Have you ever thought about how small the population of classical Athens was? it was a medium-sized town by modern standards, or one of several modern suburbs in any given metropolis, places which produce little or nothing at all of value.

[Anonymous No.17350332]

>>17349714
>>17349721
>>17349727
By approaching the problem of succession or self-perpetuation in its fully dualistic nature, Rank was able to understand the deeper meanings of Greek homosexuality:

Seen in this light, boy-love, which, as Plato tells us, aimed perpetually at the improvement and perfection of the beloved youth, appears definitely as… a spiritual perfecting in the other person, who becomes transferred into the worthy successor of oneself here on earth; and that, not on the basis of the biological procreation of one’s body, but in the sense of the spiritual immortality-symbolism in the pupil, the younger.45

In other words, the Greek sought to impress his inner self, his spirit or soul, upon the beloved youth. This spiritual friendship was designed to produce a son in whom one’s soul would survive:

In boy-love, man fertilized both spiritually and otherwise the living image of his own soul, which seemed materialized in an ego as idealized and as much like his own body as was possible.

[Anonymous No.17350668]

not true. we don't get most of their texts because they have been lost or not written down to begin with. we don't get the bulk of their culture, we don't get their oral traditional or theatre, we don't get their religious ceremonies or wars or political discussions or oration, we get scraps of writing.

[Anonymous No.17350698]

>>17349587
I mean, most of the population were farmers or slaves. It was only a tiny elite that were literate and did all that philosophising

[Anonymous No.17350703]

>>17349587
Yeah I guess chronological value judgements are impossible, all times are exactly the same. There can be no qualitative or quantitative difference in the artistic output between societies with vastly different material, cultural, social, political, religious, and intellectual conditions.

[Anonymous No.17350718]

No we see the world as a cultural wayland because a bunch a Jews controll all mass media and entertainment.

[Anonymous No.17350722]

Eternal reminder that the ‘tradition’ of today was the social justice of yesterday.

In 1000 years, the ‘traditionalists’ will long for the good old days when we checked our privilege

[Anonymous No.17351277]

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