/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17354640]

hello i am Bolzano AMA

[Anonymous No.17354704]

>>17354640
How can I become as based as you?
Literally just started reading your Wissenschaftslehre.
I decided to read it before anything by Frege (your successor, born the year you died.)
I've already read Russell though.

[Anonymous No.17354718]

>>17354704
Also...yeah...I'm reading a translation :(

[Anonymous No.17354936]

>>17354640
Is Kant in hell?

[Anonymous No.17354953]

>>17354936
Kant was a good Christian.
The worst thing he ever did was espouse racist theories despite never leaving Königsberg.
>inb4 some /pol/ack says Based
kek

[Anonymous No.17354990]

>>17354953
Incredibly based. Would only be more based if I learned he was also agoraphobic and rarely left his home.

[Anonymous No.17355225]

>>17354640
what are your disagreements with Kant?

[Anonymous No.17355373]

>>17354640
>OP hasn't replied to anyone.
So I'm guessing you haven't actually read Bolzano...

[Anonymous No.17355748]

>>17354640
>>17355373
Were are you fren?...are you...dead?

[Anonymous No.17356624]

where to start with Bolzano? I know german
>>17354953
Supremely based.

[Anonymous No.17356638]

>>17354990
b..b..back to /pol/!

[Anonymous No.17356653]

>>17356624
>>17356638
You too :,(

[Anonymous No.17356665]

>>17355373
didnt think this thread would get any replies. sorry!!

[Anonymous No.17356825]

>>17356665
Understandable, you made a thread about fucking Bolzano of all people, kek, and I imagine not one STEMlet i/lit/erate retard on this board has read him but you also...made the thread so keep it alive you fucking faggot. No use taking up space for no reason.

[Anonymous No.17356855]

>>17356825
have you read him?

[Anonymous No.17357191]

>>17355373
>>17356665
>>17356855
Seriously, who the fuck has actually read this guy? I don't even think OP has read him despite OP LARPing as him.
Every fucking academic in Logic, Mathematics, Language, and Epistemology references him and pretty much everyone knows who this guy is but has any nonacademic pleb actually read him?
Is this the greatest pre-filter filter ever?
>he hasn't even read Bolzano yet
Seriously, where do I start I don't want to be a pleb but https://archive.org/details/bbolzanoswissen03bolzgoog/mode/2up is the only place where I can find a copy of one of his books and I can't fucking speak German.

[Anonymous No.17357202]

>>17357191
are you retarded? there is an entire Theory of Science on z-Library

[Anonymous No.17357237]

>>17357202
4 volumes of 400-500 pages each? even kant is not that long. why do we have to read him anyway?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.17357239]

>>17354640
What do you think about Capitalism?

[Anonymous No.17357270]

>>17354640
Second most based philosopher after Leibniz.

>>17354704
Frege is hardly his successor beyond some common interests and a few propositions. Russel even less. They would disagree on almost everything. If nothing else, he started the syntactic focus bullshit when Bolzano was a pure semantic Chad. Russel also didn't know about him.
The successors of Bolzano are found in people that knew about him. Meinong, Twardowski, Hilbert. Above all Husserl who single handedly took him out of complete oblivion.

>>17355225
Unironically everything. The Theory of Science contains long passages just roasting Kant and Kantians. His disciple also wrote on his behalf a small book called the New Anti-Kant. Can provide more information on specific subjects but it is simply too extensive to list in a small post.

>>17357191
You can buy the entire Theory of Science on amazon like me. It was 200 bucks at some point.
He has decent editions in German. Short of German, if you read French the Vrin library editions have published many of his most interesting texts over the last 20 years.

[Anonymous No.17357271]

>>17357239
>Butterfly has nothing of interest to add to the conversation.
Typical. Not him. Don't know.
He was a pacifist, catholic priest, and classical liberal, make of that what you will.

[Anonymous No.17357278]

>>17357191
i have read him and also written about him thats why i made this thread lole

[Anonymous No.17357281]

>>17357270
is there a compact selection of his most important works in german? I don't think I am ready for the whole of the "Wissenschaftslehre" yet.

[Anonymous No.17357345]

>>17354640
WHERE IS CHARLES LEE?

[Anonymous No.17357406]

>>17357239
You won't like Bolzano (pbuh), tranny. He was a priest, hardline on his views of morality based on duty, refuted hedonism, disliked the 1848 revolution. In societal matters, he was vaguely "progressive" in a 18th century sense which was already comically outdated at the time.

>>17357281
Perhaps, though I don't know one. I speak/read German at a plebeian level and admit I'd rather read translations of philosophy if available.
I'm afraid on his main area of interest he really focused on writing the Theory of Science. Apart from this his other main writings, all much shorter, are
>the mathematical method
>the concept of beauty
>athanasia
>the paradoxes of infinity
>the new anti-kant (written posthumously by his student from notes and plan agreed with Bolzano before his death)

[Anonymous No.17357442]

>>17357406
>You won't like Bolzano (pbuh), tranny. He was a priest, hardline on his views of morality based on duty, refuted hedonism, disliked the 1848 revolution. In societal matters, he was vaguely "progressive" in a 18th century sense which was already comically outdated at the time.
not true

[Anonymous No.17357458]

>>17357442
Bolzano was pretty much socialist
>The basic equality of all citizens shall be recognised by the state, and
women shall of course have the vote as well as the right to serve in government. There shall be no state religion and, except in extreme cases,
the state shall take no steps to regulate religious practices or beliefs. Nor
shall a person’s religion prevent him from exercising any profession, inside or outside of government. A system of redistributive taxation will
keep inequalities of wealth within reasonable limits, and 100% inheritance taxes will insure that wealth is not a function of one’s parentage.
A dense network of social services is also contemplated to ensure equal
opportunity for the citizens of the best state, including universal public
schooling, socialized health care, insurance schemes for the ill, infirm,
and elderly, and the state’s absorption of the costs of raising children

[Anonymous No.17357467]

>>17357202
Thanks nigger, I'm reading it now. Don't usually read e-books and when I do, it's through the Gutenberg Project. I'm also a good goy and usually don't pirate but I'm broke right now and need to read up so I'll save this site.
>>17357270
Wtf, are you a literal rich fag? I'm way too poor for that shit. Sure, Physical > Virtual but bruh, come on.
>>17357278
>Still haven't actually said anything
What did you write and where did you publish?

[Anonymous No.17357486]

>>17357442
Yes, true. Roleplaying as a Joseph II supporter in the 1820s, let alone the 1840s, was comical and participated in his ending up underrated. His anti-hedonism is also very clear and quite extreme.

[Anonymous No.17357500]

>>17357458
Well you can't win them all.

[Anonymous No.17357502]

>>17357458
>The next area of his lecture themes were social questions. Here he firstly formulated his social-utopian opinions on the human society based on the absolute equality of all the people, later refined in the book Von dem besten Staate (About the ideal state), which was first published only in 1932. Bolzano refutes the inequality arising from the differences and privilegies received by inherited estate and fortunes. The only aristocracy, which he accepts is spiritual aristocracy, which we achieve by learning during life and real morality. The ownership of extensive property should not merit the respect of society, but should awake rejection and suspicion , that it was not gained in a moral and legal manner. Wealth - even properly obtained - Bolzano believes to be only the "quest of riches blessed by law". He very strongly despises the bourgeoisie, who grew fat on their riches and let other people work for them under poor conditions. He indicates that many people have to work very hardly for a living, and this damages their health and leads to early death.

https://www.bu.edu/wcp/Papers/Teac/TeacLore.htm

[Anonymous No.17357519]

>>17357486
that guys question was about capitalism not whatever the fuck you are talking about.

[Anonymous No.17357646]

>>17357519
The guy (admitting butter is a man, which is fair) has well known positions, not well in line with Bolzano's. Bolzano's occasional weird nazi sentiments weren't my focus. The opinions that you consider make him a socialist are standard Josephist fare, which were the laughing stock of socialists.
Capitalism also doesn't mean what you think it means.

[Anonymous No.17357721]

>>17357646
>The opinions that you consider make him a socialist are standard Josephist fare, which were the laughing stock of socialists.
elaborate

[Anonymous No.17358500]

>>17357721
bump

[Anonymous No.17359222]

>>17357721
BUMP

[Anonymous No.17359864]

>>17357345
Anyone else thought this was the best part of Assassins Creed? After that the quality went to shit

[Anonymous No.17360565]

>>17355373
>>17356665
>OP still hasn't delivered