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Good women writers thread.
Gertrude Stein, George Eliot, Emily Dickinson, Elizabeth Bishop, Marianne Moore, Toni Morrison, Sylvia Plath, Anne Sexton, Louise Gluck, Katherine Anne Porter, Virginia Woolf, Iris Murdoch, Anne Carson, Gwendolyn Brooks. Colette, Marina Tsvetaeva, Sharon Olds.

>> No.17363086

>>17363073
A.S Byatt. She is criminally underrated and her novel Possession: A Romance and The Children's Book show not only an appreciation for Victorian and children's literature, but a mastery of it as well.

>> No.17363088

>>17363073
/thread

>> No.17363099

Okay, so we just list some names without any discussion, right?
I contribute Rebecca West, Naomi Mitchison, and Muriel Spark.

>> No.17363100

>>17363073
Stop naming some talentless anglo bitches.

>> No.17363111

>>17363073
>Anne Sexton
Anyone actually read her? I see people mention her but I never even see people talk about her work, much less it's content.

>> No.17363131
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>>17363073
mary shelley
have sex incels

>> No.17363149

>>17363111
Anne Sexton is amazing. Her early work is kind of neo-formalist, in that she wrote a lot of sonnets, villanelles, ballads, and other poetic forms. As she conversed with Robert Lowell though, she started developing her voice in free-verse and free-form. Her best collection, at least in my opinion, is Transformations. The collection is a series of retelling and reimagining of fairy tales like Rapunzel and Red Riding Hood, but Anne Sexton sort of subverts or turns the tales on their head. Fantastic poet.

>> No.17363164

>>17363099
>Rebecca West
Black Lamb and Grey Falcon is Serb propaganda.

>> No.17363189

>>17363149
Sounds interesting, thanks for actually reading the people you recommend. I'll check her stuff out.

>> No.17363194

>>17363164
So people keep saying, but I don't really see it. It reflects the fact that Serbs dominated the first Yugoslavia and her guide was a Serb, but I don't find it negative towards the other peoples at all. In the first pages she even writes disparagingly about other travel writers who visited the Balkans and wrote in glowing terms about their 'pet' nation while hating on all the others.
Honestly I think most people who say that haven't read it. The book's reputation got really trashed by idiot journalists giving it a surface-level skim in the 90s and thinking it was a relevant guide to explain the wars.

>> No.17363225

>>17363189
My only complaint with her was that her mid-period stuff is just alright. A lot of it is very much "fuck men" attitude of the second wave feminist movement. Some of that stuff is ok, like the poem I have posted below, but overall it is very preachy and not that great. She was still trying to find her voice, and it is very noticeable. I'd say start with some early collections of hers, especially if you like poetic forms and meter, and then go into Transformations. If you like the poem I have posted below, which is apart of her middle period, then check out that period of her poetry career as well.

Her Kind
Anne Sexton - 1928-1974

I have gone out, a possessed witch,
haunting the black air, braver at night;
dreaming evil, I have done my hitch
over the plain houses, light by light:
lonely thing, twelve-fingered, out of mind.
A woman like that is not a woman, quite.
I have been her kind.

I have found the warm caves in the woods,
filled them with skillets, carvings, shelves,
closets, silks, innumerable goods;
fixed the suppers for the worms and the elves:
whining, rearranging the disaligned.
A woman like that is misunderstood.
I have been her kind.

I have ridden in your cart, driver,
waved my nude arms at villages going by,
learning the last bright routes, survivor
where your flames still bite my thigh
and my ribs crack where your wheels wind.
A woman like that is not ashamed to die.
I have been her kind.

>> No.17363249

>>17363131
Shelly was too hardcore for incels to handle.

>> No.17363259
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Truthnuke: Jane Austen has a better batting average than any other writer male or female
Also Fanny Burney is underrated, has a good mix of hooky narrative, witty prose and satirical keks at the foibles of humanity

>> No.17363263

>>17363225
I see what you mean when you say see was still finding her style then, it feels a bit clunky to read. Early works and Transformations it is then.

>> No.17363395

I can't decide between "Wuthering Heights", "Villete" or "Mansfield Park" for my next read. Which one would you recommend?

>> No.17363407

>>17363395
I personally preferred Mansfield Park, but I do think Wuthering Heights was the superior novel. I'd say give Wuthering Heights the first read and then go onto Mansfield Park.

>> No.17363460

>>17363395
Villette>Mansfield Park>Wuthering Heights

>> No.17363466

>>17363407
Thanks, will do. I have never read Emily Brontë before, whereas I have Charlotte and Austen, so perhaps it would be better to explore a bit more before falling back into my comfort zone.

>> No.17363537

doris lessing, joan didion, susan sontag, clarice lispector, ursula k le guin

>> No.17363918 [DELETED] 

bump

>> No.17363951

Gertrude Stein is an honorary man

>> No.17363953

Gertrude Stein is an honorary man

>> No.17363959

Carson McCullers

>> No.17363966

What's the best ontological argument ever posited by a woman?

>> No.17363969

>>17363073
Gwendolyn Brooks and Sharon Olds are not good poets, read Amy Clampitt and Leonie Adams instead

>> No.17363986

Anna Kavan

>> No.17363996

>>17363966
There are none because women incels don't exist

>> No.17364150

>>17363966
Checkmate liberals

>> No.17364159

>>17363073
Flannery O’Connor deserves mentioning

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>>17363073
I love Mary Renault.

>> No.17364751

If they aint gonna write about cool stuff like war or space, or being an edgy nihilist, what's the point in reading them

>> No.17364884

Shirley Hazzard and Marilynne Robinson are very based.

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>>17363996
>women incels don't exist
ahem

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Problem, incels?

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>>17364937
>>17363996

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>>17363073
>Good women writers thread.

>> No.17365043

evelyn waugh

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>>17363073
Flannery O’Connor

>> No.17365065

>>17363100
Stop posting some talentless anglo shitposts

>> No.17365076

they don't exist

>> No.17365085

>>17365076
>>17365030
Have sex

>> No.17365095

>>17365058
Wasn't this the bitch who refused to go to a James Baldwin reading cause she was like, "What would the South think of me??" Can't stand an all lives matter bitch

>> No.17365105

>>17365085
You don't need to lie to women about their (lack of) literary merit in order to get pussy, anon.

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>>17363073
What is /lit/'s opinion on Jane Austen? I'm almost finished with Pride and Prejudice and I liked it, but there were definitely times where it got a little too bogged down in characters and relationships.

>> No.17365120

>>17365105
Absolutely fragile

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>>17365105
You don't need to "lie," simply because it's not true.

>> No.17365674

Aphra Behn, Anna Kavan, Hiromi Kawakami, Djuna Barnes, and Cynthia Ozick are my personal favorites.

>> No.17365686

>>17363073
Agatha Christi

>> No.17365854

>>17365115
All of her works tend towards an examination of charcter relationship webs imo. Sanditon does it best in my opinion.

>> No.17366003

>>17365674
yes, I'm thinking that you are based

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>>17366003
Thank you fren

>> No.17366416

>>17363073
jessie redmon fauset
georgia douglas johnson
edna st vincent millay
mary wollstonecraft

>> No.17366462

Suck! Suck! Suck, suck, suck, suck, suck and fuck and suck and fuck and SUCK and FUCK and SUCK and FUCK and suck suck suck suck fuck fuck fuck fuck suck fuck fuck suck suck SUCKY SUCKY SUCKY ON MY LABIA

>> No.17366924

Clarice Lispector
Theresa Hak Kyung Cha
Jane Barker
Eliza Haywood
Margarette Weiss
Karhy Adler
Susan Sontag
Can Xue

>> No.17366935

Meant Kathy Acker not Adler