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Is Virgil a good place to start with the Romans?

>> No.17392883

>>17392879
Not a bad choice but I would recommend Ovid as a starting off point. Cicero for philosophy.

>> No.17392884
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ARMA VIRVMQVE CANO

>> No.17392941

He just tries so hard. Is it just a cope for not being greek?
Sell me the Aenead.

>> No.17392945

Ovid > Virgil > Livy

>> No.17392947

>>17392883
Ovid is harder to read

>> No.17392967

>>17392947
While this is true I think he's a better primer for Roman literature as a whole.

>> No.17392973

>>17392947
I find him easier

>> No.17392974

>>17392973
Really? I don't think Ovid is that hard to read but Virgil is really easy to read. To be fair I've only read The Aeneid.

>> No.17392979
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>> No.17392982

>>17392974
Maybe it's because I find Ovid more interesting than Virgil. His language is more fanciful than Virgil's but not necessarily more difficult.

>> No.17392989

>>17392879
Catullus -> Horace -> Virgil -> Ovid -> Petronious
Though everyone is gargling Callimachus' balls so check out the Nisetich translation of him if interested.

>> No.17393028

>>17392879
Learn Latin and read Cicero (pbvh) in the supreme original. Acquire brain gains

>> No.17393063

>>17392973
>>17392974
Quamquam Aeneis difficilior sit omnibus libris Ovidii, Ovidius mea quidem sententia omnino Vergilio difficilior est. Dixerim tamen Catullum optimam adumbrationem carminum Romanorum ob copiam argumentorum farinarumque versuum. Delectata sum tamen maxime Tibullo, sed non suadeam tirones ut eum legant primum.

>> No.17393097

>>17392879
A Latin scholar once asked a Greek scholar what his favourite work by Virgil was. The Greek scholar paused for a moment and replied: "The Divine Comedy".

>> No.17393128

>>17393097
Reddit moment

>> No.17393204

>>17393097
The Divine Comedy is better than anything Virgil wrote desu

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>>17393128
>Reddit moment

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>>Reddit moment

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>>>Reddit moment
>>>>Reddit moment
>>>>>Reddit moment
>>>>>>Reddit moment

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>>>>Reddit moment
>>>>>Reddit moment
>>>>>>Reddit moment
>>>>>>>Reddit moment

>> No.17393526

>>17393063
>Delectata
Post pedes, slut

>> No.17393538

>>17393526
L O N D I N I U M

>> No.17393600

>>17392941
l'eneide è il seguito dell'odissea

>> No.17393665

>>17393526
That'd be a peccatum sorry

>> No.17393709

>>17393665
Your piety just makes me harder

>> No.17393725

>>17393709
Sorry I didn't mean to

>> No.17393780

>>17393128
>>17393248
>>17393382
>>17393392
>>17393409
>/lit/ - Literature

>> No.17394802

>>17393409
I asked for an anon to make that one, based type o listener

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In English or in Latin? If you're reading translations, I suggest reading pic related. It's a good starting point for Roman literature, doesn't take too long to read, and you can see which authors you like without wasting time on those you don't.