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QOTT: describe your favorite smell

>> No.17456593
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>>17456579
>QOTT: describe your favorite smell
Either lavender or freshly baked cake.

Panpsychism is kinda based.

>> No.17456631

my ball sweat, I need to start exercising again

>> No.17456636

"Democracy" is obfuscated oligarchy

>> No.17456637

>>17456631
>ball sweat
>implying any men post on 4chan.org
I'm laffin

>> No.17456654

>>17456637
im trans btw
>>17456636
I laugh when I see people putting so much heart into political discussions, everyone who gets to a position of power is a sellout

>> No.17456716

i want a bf
fav smell: cuteboys

>> No.17456720
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>>17456579
PSA: ALL women are whores, she's not yours it's just your turn. Spend your time on something worthwhile.

>> No.17456729

>>17456720
Sounds a lot like a cope man, at least put it in the noble reasonable light, that is of loving woman but knowing their nature.

>> No.17456730

>>17456716
Based and boipilled

>> No.17456738

>>17456716
I smell bf, I'm cuteboys.

>> No.17456740

>>17456729
it's a cope only if it's meant in a "just live with it" sense

>> No.17456758

Parsifal is Wagner's best drama:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZznQQsF-OI
https://youtu.be/dzeNnoMmsjM?t=5764 (Holy Communion scene)

>> No.17456763

>>17456740
So we must work to idealise the woman, while shining a light on her present condition?

Hah! As if this is some scientific adventure.

>> No.17456767

>>17456579
Those mean owls should let the cats sleep >:( Maybe the cats stole the mice the owls wanted to eat nd that's why they're mad :O

>> No.17456769

>>17456763
no we must enslave her (again)

>> No.17456776

>>17456767
Very sad indeed! Let us lead to a better world, then, frend?

>> No.17456881

Literally none of my favorite authors would have put up with the existence I put up with on a daily basis.

>> No.17456899

>>17456738
As a verse I smell both cutebois and bfs, I have reached enlightenment.

>> No.17456920

I have a really deep affinity for a culture that I have absolutely no ties to in another part of the world. Is that weird? How weird?

I asked this in the old thread, but I want some more responses.

>> No.17456973

>>17456920
I don't know how /lit/ this is. It's almost as if you're alluding to reincarnation and past life regression to justify your weeabooism, in which case /x/ would make more sense.

>> No.17456984

>>17456973
A bit of an assumptions there, isn’t it? I didn’t say anything about reincarnation or any of that.

>> No.17457016

Does anyone have more pictures of owls like OP? I think owls are very cute.

>> No.17457094

Facebook is full of old fucks and teetotalers
Instagram is full of married women having babies while vacationing in third world countries
Twitter is full of baseless opinions and politically charged minors wanting to murder people over feminism and nuanced ideological predispositions
Tiktok is just tiddies, popular “unpopular” opinions and faggots talking down to me as they explain something everyone already knows


At a certain point I prefer talking about books with literal nazis over the vast majority of the population. Crazy how wooden doors pisses me off less than Karen pretending to be happy and woke.

>> No.17457106

What is neurotic personality to be exact? Trying to do two things at the same time?

>> No.17457150

how worried should I be about using a random vpn from google?

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>>17456654
In USSR not only did higher political positions offer no privileges, they actually had hard caps on income compared to powerless jobs
So the only ones going for high positions of power were honest heart communists

Modern day Russia still tries to put limitations or penalties on oligarchs (like not allowing them double citizenship or their children getting foreign education) but obviously it does fuck all

>> No.17457280

>>17457151
>So the only ones going for high positions of power were honest heart communists
Do you actually believe this lmao

>> No.17457288

>>17456579
>QOTT
Why do people do this? It's about talking about what's on my mind, not responding to some "topic question".

>> No.17457313

>>17457151
>In USSR not only did higher political positions offer no privileges
Have your ever seen USSR party housing?

>> No.17457318

>>17457288
It’s about having a thread where anything can be discussed under the guise of writing on the literature board so that one’s audience is the group of people they wish to speak with most about these subjects. As >>17457094 points out, there are few places on the internet that feel like they have sincere or genuine people. These threads can have brutal honesty within a community where we love to call each other faggots

>> No.17457346

>>17457318
I meant why do people add a topic to "what's on your mind" threads. They can do what you mention without forcing a weird topic that goes against actually writing what's on your mind because it enfuses something else in your mind when reading it.

>> No.17457350

>>17457346
Oh lmao fuck that then. Misread the question. Sorry broski.

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>>17456579
>3 hours of getting to know each other exercises for mandatory communication course
Surely being a wagie can't get worse than this? At least the lasses think I'm chill and exotic, this fucking country sometimes

>> No.17457420

What is the difference between reality and dream reality?
>Point, or distance, of reference.
>One is piece-meal derived from the other.

The outside world sends data to -> our senses, where this data is translated into the language of our nervous system and then forwarded to -> our brain, where the translated data is worked into -> our consciousness, where it finally appears to us. What we perceive is therefore not the outside world. A citizen (the outside world) comes to the tax office (our body) and verbally passes on some data (light, vibration, pressure) to the employee (our senses) who enters the data into the computer system (our nervous system) for later processing (in the brain). What reaches our brain has little to do with the outside world. We only look at the computer monitor. The connection between the monitor and the verbal message is as weak as the connection between the sound of a singing bowl and the striking of a wooden mallet: the sound is not the mallet. What we see, when we see a tree, is our self projected into three dimensional space. This is as far as my brain takes me. Doesn't Schopenhauer say something similar?

Suppose this is true, that we do not the the world itself, but see the reaction of our body to the world (the world being some unseen, deducted cause): isn't the structure of reality and the structure of dream reality very much the same?

>> No.17457442

>>17457420
>Doesn't Schopenhauer say something similar?
Probably, cause he mostly restated Kant who says the same things and so does every other epistemological philosopher since Xenophanes.

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>>17456579
>QOTT
my exes shampoo (picrel)

raised in an east-style cucked sect that made me degrade a lot, only now at 23 years of age I'm trying to find confidence and value in myself.
How do I go on about it?

>> No.17457630

>>17457607
Start doing it

>> No.17457636

>>17457630
doing what?

>> No.17457639

I'mma post as I write this. Not sure where I'm going with this; it's inspired by one of Liao Yiwu's interviews.

Ping was a second-generation bathroom attendant. This would have been a source of shame for any kid his age, and so it was for him, but the stigma held an interesting contradiction: his family would never be a target. His father had impressed this upon him:
"When my labor camp was liberated, they asked us all to show our hands. Those with rough hands like mine were documented as peasants and set free. Those whose hands were free of callouses, either because they had bribed the guards to give them easy work, or because they had led lives without hardship before the war, they were separated from us and I don't know what happened to them."
Most of the time he and his father spent together in those days was spent on their knees scrubbing the tiles and toilet rims. His father tried to be contagious with his jocular attitude.
"This way we don't have to be nervous that anyone will find out about our family background. Our ancestors were all peasants. When I was your age my parents stripped the leaves from trees to provide nutrition to keep us alive. People like us are the blood of this revolution, they say. Our revolutionary role is to make sure these public toilets remain clean and functional."
This too made an impression on Ping. He knew that their neighbor Liu had been tied up by the neighborhood teenagers and kept in their building's cellar for several days, once a rumor had got around that his father had worked for the Nationalists.
The job that Ping liked the best was lying awake at night to chase away the shit thieves. When the problem became so bad that the city provided the toilets with a locking gate, people began to try to steal shit during the day by pretending to be customers. Often they would pass through the ticket booth hunched over and clutching their abdomen, like they really needed to go, when in fact they were concealing the jar they planned on lowering into the latrine to scoop up sewage. Ping's chest would swell with righteous indignation when he caught these people in the act.
"I'm reporting you to the committee!" he would pipe after them as they ran. "All of this shit belongs to the Glorious Revolution!"

>> No.17457663

>>17457636
Being confident and finding value in yourself

>> No.17457718

>>17457607
https://heartiste.org/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/

These are not bad rules for women and for life desu. Remember a big part of the pay gap between men and women is because women are less assertive.

>> No.17457739

>>17457639
Ping's young mind soaked up all the knowledge it could from the experience. He thought of the public toilets as his classroom. He applied his semiliterate mind toward reading the graffiti in the stalls as he scrubbed it away, which took much more time than scrubbing the toilet bowls. If he came across a character he didn't know he would fetch his father, who would either explain its meaning, or make something up if he didn't know.
Ping's first understanding of sexual intercourse came from a pencil drawing that appeared one day on one of the toilet walls, showing the conjoined male and female genitalia. Ping had an inkling of what this meant, and he found it vaguely disturbing. He couldn't imagine that any member of the revolution could draw such dirty pictures. With his brow furroughed he used a pencil stub to add torsos, legs and heads to the genitals, and then wrote underneath the picture: "This is two counterrevolutionaries doing bad stuff."

>> No.17457806

>>17457151
that doesnt make any sense. if anything they offered tons of benefits if you joined the party.

>> No.17457823

>>17457718
thanks, but not sure if this is what I'm seeking.
also, it might very well be written by a person who doesn't know what they are talking about
>squirting orgasm
my ex was a squirter and it didn't have anything to do with orgasming.. it was also very uncomfortable to her, or so she said

>> No.17457880

>>17457280
Yes retard
If there's no financial or power benefit to go for positions of power, then the only ones going for those positions must be doing it for some other reason

>> No.17457899

>>17457823
That was piss, anon.

>> No.17457918

>>17456579
Light a dart and lean against the wall, something smells bad. Blood maybe. No dogshit in sight. Keep the screaming bum on the corner in my periphery. Got three more smokes in the pack in my left pocket and an empty decoy pack in my right pocket for when Ii inevitably get asked for one. 5 fucking minutes outside is all I want. Say yes once and you're fucked. Say yes in front of other bums and you're double fucked.

Look down and see what at first looks like a dead baby bird, strange because it's February. 4 in the morning so can't tell. Wait for screaming bum to round corner so he doesn't see my phone come out. Half the screen is whited out and not very cracked so it works as a bright enough light even though my flashlight is broken. The smell was a dead baby bird.

Think about burying it in the little garden box a half block away. But I can already see another bum coming my way, hobbling like he's on a mission. Time to kick rocks.

>> No.17457924

>>17457739
As time passed, revolutionary fervor intensified. The death of Ping's father was unexpected, and came at an awkward time for the family. The focus of the national struggle had shifted from exacting retribution on the old elite to weeding out class traitors. There seemed to be class traitors in every apartment block; Ping seldom passed a day without seeing people from his neighborhood being led away in tears by police. It made him angry to see that there were so many class traitors in their midst, and he was of an age when disillusionment with humanity came easily. He saw the public toilets as his family's lifeline to the revolution, and he redoubled his efforts at keeping them clean.
In the beginning the toilets had been built by the county, who also paid his father's wages. Responsibility for public toilets had eventually been passed down to each local community, but amidst all the upheaval the local governments had forgotten about them, and toilets across the city were left neglected. But Ping's family had continued to maintain theirs, even though the city stopped paying his father's wages for some time. Eventually each toilet was assigned to an individual on a contractual basis. Ping's father had been awarded the contract in recognition of his years of service, and they were allowed to keep the proceeds from ticket sales, after paying taxes to the local government. Ping's father saw this as a good thing.
"Before we were just toilet attendants, but now we're toilet managers. And to think your grandparents were only farmers. You see what the Revolution has done for our family."
But he died not long afterwards, and it was then that Ping began to worry. "These toilets are a revolutionary asset and we have no right to use them to build wealth for our family," he explained to his mother. He wasn't sure if he believed what he was saying, but the danger he sensed was real. Would privatizing a public asset make them targets during the next surge of revolutionary frenzy? He often lay awake at night wrestling with guilt and fear.

>> No.17457927

>>17457899
yes, the liquid that is squirted is piss, what did you think it is?

>> No.17457940

>>17457718
what are some sources on how to make a girl cum the best?

>> No.17457970

>>17457806
That's what the propaganda machine tells you

>> No.17457976

>>17457806
yes mr american teach me about my history pls i dont know anything i have no idea

>> No.17458068

is there a moral philosophy where you are only responsible for your tribe? by tribe i mean groups of less than 100 people.

>> No.17458085

>>17457880
Either naive or retarded.

>> No.17458135

>>17457924
He thought of his neighbor Liu tied and beaten in the cellar. The same neighborhood teenagers who had beaten up Liu had taken to hanging around in gangs, wearing identical armbands and assisting the police in sniffing out class traitors. Suddenly they began frequenting Ping's toilets. One of their leaders approached Ping as he was closing up the ticket booth and requested that he start leaving the toilets unlocked at night.
"We've been assigned to keep an eye on a foreign journalist who lives in the hotel across the way," he explained. Ping consented, knowing that they were the ones who had been shitting in the alley behind the building when it was locked.
"Please make sure nobody else enters at night," he told them, trying to speak with the same militaristic cadence they used, "People will come with jars and try to steal revolutionary excrement."
There was also an uptick in graffiti on the walls, and its content didn't leave much uncertainty as to who the culprits were. They scrawled revolutionary slogans with such dedicated fervor there was no longer any room on the walls for the usual artists to do their work. They tried to keep their scrawlings on-topic: "Counter-revolutionaries are worthless as shit" or "Capitalists deserve to eat shit".
Fortunately they wrote with pencils so Ping didn't have too much trouble wiping away most of the slogans one evening. He didn't mind the extra work; he felt he was now maintaining a base of operations for important revolutionary work and the fear that had gripped him began to ease. With a light heart, he rubbed away a caricature of the Nationalist leader which had been painted with feces on the tiles.
But the next morning as he was opening up the ticket booth, a police van rolled to a halt outside. A squad of policemen stepped out, and all turned to look at Ping. The hair on the back of his neck was standing on end. Across the street, in the shade of the hotel, the teenagers were watching.

It wasn't until the confession was shoved in front of him in order for him to sign it did he understand. Blood dripped through his broken teeth onto the white paper which read "Attempting to subvert the State by destroying revolutionary propaganda"

>> No.17458156

>>17457880
>implying there are no financial benefits to being in power even if there aren't "officially" any
Lol

>> No.17458214

>>17456920
I don't see how that's any different from having a deep interest in any other topic. But if you're dressing up in their traditional outfits and observing their pagan rites, just make sure you're doing it out of genuine spiritual/academic interest; it's only weird if you're LARPing.

>> No.17458523

>>17458068
No because tribes no longer exist

>> No.17458530

>>17458068
Yes. Tribalism.

>> No.17458534

>>17457880
What makes it a position of power, if not power? You can’t honestly imply that power does not create incentive.

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>>17458530
Tribalism is a bad word...

>> No.17458747

>>17458543
yet muslim religion is tribalism
huh

>> No.17458778

>>17457918
>Got three more smokes in the pack in my left pocket
Sounds cliche, stopped reading.

>> No.17458887

>>17458530
thanks. i'll look into it.

>> No.17458906

/lit/ is comfier to post to than talking to my friends

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>>17456579
QOTT: The rain had stopped and the sun shone through the dissipating clouds, the soft wind shook the trees as the droplets fell to the damp earth. The moss on the rocks stretched and curled, and I walked amidst the petrichor of the forest

>> No.17458982

>>17456579
There way too many smells - freshly cut grass whos been in a sun for an hour or two, firewood whos used for heating fills the streets and combined with cold winter weather, a new book out of press.

>> No.17459104

>>17456579
>QOTT: describe your favorite smell
Smelling a noxious fart but it's your own.

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I want to read everything. I'm reading every day. I read most of the Greeks, I read a lot of philosophy, I read poetry every night, I read non-fiction, I'm learning Latin to read Vergil, I'm reading communists, fascists, liberals, mystics, occultists, rationalists, dreamers, realists, atheists, protestants, catholics, indians, japanese, women, mediocre writers, pollacks, romanians, portuguese, YA, obscurantists, /lit/ poetry, r/books, r/literature, local writers, AI-generated texts, Wikipedia articles, dictionaries, scientific papers, legal texts, boomer rants, /pol/, /r9k/, /sci/, /g/, /s4s/, /mlp/, /lgbt/, neoliberals, woke literature, neo-fascists, self-published erotica, paid journalists, tweets, books with fewer than 10 ratings on Goodreads, ancient fragments, anything.
I don't have an end goal or an objective. I'm just a reader.

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>>17459173

>> No.17459194

>>17459104
How do you feel about sharing a noxious fart?

>> No.17459212

>>17456579
>QOTT: describe your favorite smell
Probably freshly ground coffee beans.

>> No.17459291 [DELETED] 

Study of philosophy shouldn't start with the Greeks in learning philosophy, like students of physics shouldn't start with them either in learning physics. They should start with modern textbooks that are rigorous, not the novellike kind. You don't need to ever read the original texts, because secondary texts are actually better for understanding the logic of the text, then you can move on to the next secondary text. The original texts should be for reference, not studying.

>> No.17459299

Anime is actually depressing.

>> No.17459329

>>17459291
Philosophy is more of a practice than a field of study. Obviously it is both, a collection of texts and educational materials, but studying won't make you a philosopher any more than learning everything about fish makes you a fisherman. "Starting with the Greeks" although admittedly a meme, also contains a premise that you have to start with a more "correct" textual source. The only indispensable subject a philosopher must study is logic. It's more about process than content, especially since there are no results or findings in philosophy like there are in science. Only arguments and various methods for evaluating them. Wittgenstein felt similar about what philosophy is.
.t philosopher who has no business shitposting on this site.

>> No.17459330

>>17459291
0 IQ post

>> No.17459340

>>17459329
>.t philosopher
Academics are not philosophers and neither are analytical spergs.

>> No.17459449

>>17459329
That's what I meant. People are reading philosophy texts like a checklist which doesn't teach them how to philosophize. It's like reading math books and not doing the problems; you're not going to become a good mathematician; the best mathematicians don't do that; what they do is rigorous exercises and thinking for themselves.

>> No.17459551

>>17458068
Group selection?

>> No.17459612

>>17457420
we perceive the things that have had a bearing on our survival as a species for the most part. Blindness, deafness, lack of nociception, these all lead to an organism's death usually. Other creatures that exist in different contexts sense differently because that is what had been advantageous to their ancestors. Dogs hear better than humans because they needed to, we can see better than them for similar reasons. Abyssal organisms have no use for eyesight. There are limits, there are no organisms that can sense or defend against radioactivity.

>> No.17459637

>>17457718
this is good, but only as a stepping stone. You need to experience and process various uncomfortable ideas en route to self-realization, but once they become comfortable it is time to move on

>> No.17459653

>>17457940
there's a video out there where Nina Hartley explains her fingering and cunnilingus technique. Her scene partner seemed pretty happy.

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Gonna do a week of nopap and see it i feel better.

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>>17456579
>be me
>living in an apartment for uni
>decide to buy some groceries
>waiting for the elevator when a girl living on my floor walks out of the apartment unit across the hall
> short Indian girl, college-age like myself. never seen her before but I don't get out much so that doesn't mean anything.
>first words she says are "you scared me"
>don't know what to say
>say nothing and look away
> elevator door opens
>press the button to keep it open, waiting for her to get on
>after about ten seconds call out "you getting on?"
>says she forgot something
>say nothing again
>buy my groceries
>realize on the way home that she almost certainly did not forget anything

fucking kill me bros

>> No.17459731

>>17456720
Almost all women are whores, but you have a duty to create and raise a family.

>> No.17459831

>>17456579
https://americanart.si.edu/art/browse
^Check this out^
It's really nice of the Smithsonian to show their collection online. It's been cool to view!

>> No.17459951

>>17456720
What's with that picture? What happened to her knees?

>> No.17459954

I cried like a baby a few moments ago,remember ny's eve,we got together at my cousin's.We were eating dinner and somehow the topic became my father's family,then my uncle.How he was murdered in a robbery at the gas station,that was in the early nineties,my dad was younger than I am now,about eighteen,his brother was nineteen.
My cousin and his wife asked questions and talked about it like it was no big deal,not disrespectfully of course,but I looked at my dad and his face wasnt sad,it was more like contempt.I was named after my uncle,I dont know much about him,but he was raised a grew up with my dad, since my grandma had a lot of kids from different men,I dont think theres a photograph of him because they were dirt poor.
Then some weeks later I was sitting next to my grandma and she was talking to me and she got confused as she was talking about some old story about my dad and she asked me: "was my son named ***?"
To have to go through life with this void,I cant begin to understand that, I have a 13 yo brother and I cant imagine what it would be like to not have him.
I remember my dad saying he held my uncle as he died and he didn't shed a tear, but at that time at that table he looked the saddest Ive ever seen,and here I am crying like a toddler trying to process this whole thing.time is too cruel

>> No.17459959

>>17459954
remembering*

>> No.17459984

>>17459951
She stacked it at the skate park

>> No.17459993

>>17456720
One can say the same about men

>> No.17460050

>>17456720
That image just makes me sad. what have we become? how did we lose our way so badly? this woman should be at home, bringing wonder and security into the lives of her children and support into the life of her husband. Instead, she was sold a lie about the 'liberation' that would accompany a career. But hey, the incredibly small minority of women who would find a traditional life suffocating even if they were socialized into it are able to live their miserable lives free of judgement so all's well right?

>> No.17460062

>>17459708
but you see, what kind of social interaction is that on her part? "You scared me" followed by complete autistic silence and then treating the guy like a serial killer for not having a one liner at the ready for when she tells him he smells like shit afterwards or whatever other insult she'll use to try to break the ice with next?
why are we expected to be masters of elocution when women are universally living breathing caricatures of shitty media tropes.

>> No.17460065

>>17457106
extremely prone to negative feelings (anxiety, depression, hopelessness etc.)

>> No.17460123

>>17460062
Because hypergamy.

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>>17456720
I wish I had a whore GF that told me about her escapades before I get insecure about it and blow her off.

>> No.17460208

>>17456720
she was probably praying for too long ,get those dirty thoughts of your mind

>> No.17460222

>>17460183
No you don’t

>> No.17460320

>>17459954
Your father is a great man

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why does she hate trannies so much?

>> No.17460463

>>17460183
>I wish I had a whore GF that told me about her escapades before I get insecure about it and blow her off.
Genuinely man, you don't. Fucks with your head. Broke up with my last gf cuz she kept her previous fling in her life and would go running to him for emotional support.

>> No.17460509

>>17460062
Honestly it has more to do with her being Indian than her being a woman

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>>17460463
>>17460222
It's just a fetish thing, it won't ever happen. I never had a GF and if I were to get one I would never tell her. Cuckolding is horrible.

>> No.17460746

>>17460436
The wisdom of old age

>> No.17460819

>>17460727
truly pathetic. lay off the porn and let your sexual desire become normal again.

>> No.17460833

At what age is it over if you’re not already writing and published?

>> No.17460953

I fuckin cannot fall asleep lads. This is the third night in a row where I've decided to go to bed much earlier so that I'm not waking up at like 12 or one in the afternoon and so I have more of a day, but no, once again I've been tossing and turning for the past two fucking hours, unable to fall asleep so basically today is already ruined for me. And I'm starting a new job on Tuesday that I'm going to have to be waking up at five in the morning for, hopefully I'll have this early night shit sorted by then.

>> No.17460966

>>17460953
Have you tried meditating for as long as you can laying down? Generally if I do that, eventually I can't keep focus anymore and there's this really cool period where I fade in and out of dream imagery as I focus on my breath.

>> No.17460967

>>17460833
However old you are when you give up. There isn't an expiration date.

>> No.17460999

>>17460966
No I've never tried meditation at all

>> No.17461013

>>17460953
Exercise early in the day

>> No.17461250
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What's wrong with the relaxed attitude towards sex and hookup culture of today is that the more your life revolves around sex the less human and the more of an animal you become. The one thing humans unambiguously have in common with the rest of the animals is sex. What distinguishes humans, as far as can be told, is a capacity for love. Casual sex is for animals, it is mechanical, impersonal. Animals at least have the dignity to follow their mechanisms for the sake of the obvious natural purpose of reproduction, but with people that is the worst possible outcome. This alone paints it for unnatural.
If casual sex is to some degree abnormal, pornography is to an extreme. No one with a rational mind can see the situation in which an isolated individual masturbating in front of a screen at flashing pixels is the way it's supposed to be. There is a depressing absurdity of the act, a futility, which seems to chip something away.
This relaxed attitude also pretends as though there were no psychic consequences to sex, and while that may occasionally be true, we ought to note how many ways that sex has been alienated. It is less about reproduction, it is less even about intimacy, all that remains is its function of raw pleasure. One might assume that if things continue how they are it won't even be about pleasure anymore, after all, now or later desensitization will set in. All that will be left is the brainless automatism of coupled, mutually alienated bodies.

(Note on pic rel I actually kind of hate Egon Schiele but I wanted to pick an artist who I thought best represented the modern attitudes on sex.)

>> No.17461432

Are utopias actually still being written? Are there some that were like published it the 2010s or is the only utopia worth mentioning the one by Thomas More? It seems like dystopias are way more common because you can have a plot about it, while in utopias, everything is perfect, there's no story... still, the idea intruiges me.

>> No.17461439

I like this image
I like owls :)

>> No.17461460

>>17461439
me too :3

>> No.17461535

>>17461250
>Casual sex is for animals
You have it twisted. Most animals mate during a set period of time, and there is often a lot of ritual (for want of a better word) involved. If anything, humans are distinguished from other animals by their voracious sexual apetites.

>> No.17461561

>>17458778
That was a true story of what I did last night, I was nearly out of cigarettes

>> No.17461562

>>17461250
>only dolphins and humans have sex for pleasure
>animals generally have long term partners
>animals will greave for their lost partners
>domesticated animals show signs of affection and love to their humans
>cows can have best friends

Stop blaming the failures of western culture to meet your emotional standards on animals. Animals are cool as fuck.

>> No.17461603

>>17461250
>sex and hookup culture of today is that the more your life revolves around sex the less human and the more of an animal you become.
No. The more human and accultured you become. These people aren't having animal sex; they have the sexual equivalent of an office job. That isn't what natural rampant sex is like. The kind of baroque mess of fetishes and quick fixes and ever evolving minutiae is usually more common in courtship displays where a significant number of potential mates are shut down. Sex has become an audition for natural sex, and an audition which most potential couplings fail.

>> No.17461705

>>17461603
John B Calhoun’s work is great for understanding the modern sexual culture

>> No.17461888

>>17459299
There's so much screaming in a lot of anime it's so jarring. Can't stand it

>> No.17461915

>>17460833
Start writing and it will never be over. Some authors died before being published.

>> No.17461983

>>17461535
>>17461562
>>17461603
I was speaking rhetorically about the animal sex you autistic fucks

The point is that casual sex leads to the robotization of sex. Terminating ultimately in the alienated isolation of internet porn.

>> No.17461990

>>17456579
I love the smell of freshly made coffee.

>> No.17462019

>>17461250
Also I really do think this Schiele painting captures the attitude of modern sexuality. Notice how they aren't even looking at each other. They're disconnected. They have dead, vacant fish eyes, as if they are not even present in the moment. Their skin is blotchy, almost dirty, however the bluish coloration is more suggestive of bruises. As if the fake intimacy they are engaging in is violence. As if they have hit each other. Their touch is noncommittal, hesitant. The man does not even put his hands on the woman but on an empty space over her head. The woman clings to him feebly, as if knowing he will be gone as soon as he arrived. It all happens in a void.

>> No.17462135

>>17460746
Has nothing to do with wisdom.

>> No.17462144

Migraine all day means I haven't been able to get any work done. Doesnt matter how much water or Ibuprofen I take. Kill kill kill kill kill kill kill

>> No.17462355

I wish i'd have courage to face my problems like a Fool tarot card.

>> No.17462642

Anything I hencefore post should be seen as drunkposting and be taken with a grain of salt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D2tj0XtDs4

>> No.17462677

I'm thankful I've never had that experience when the toilet is clogged and you flush it and suddenly it starts filling up except it never stops and pours over. What would you do in the event of such an apocalypse? How do you cope with shit and piss spilling all over your bathroom? My only response would be to light a bomb and detonate that bathroom, cut my losses. Even if you were to mop it up that bathroom has been forever contaminated. Every time this happens I stare at the toilet in total apprehension whether the nuclear meltdown doomsday event will occur.

>> No.17462688

>>17462135
old age has wisdom that cannot be entered into by youth. i'm sorry that you think you can worm your way into it, but you can't. you can't. it's the difference between having answers available in research and having them intuitively at your fingertips.

>> No.17462739

>>17456579
I feel so fucking pathetic when I think of the way I have talked about my own dad. The way the world has treated him. I think of that fat pig Edstrom and that way he talked about him. I think of that and I realize THAT IS ME. It makes me feel a bit better that all these years later I can call him a bitch tits chode having lard sucker and Bessey's whole fucking family reads it and Dougherty's and his other friends (I don't know them all). I want to cry whrn I think of the way I treat my own dad. I want to take a knife and slice Edstrom's nutsack off and make him fucking swallow it. And further more don't tempt me.

>> No.17462817

>>17456579
I'm at a loss for people who cannot vibe with heavy metal music. Have you never experienced anger? Have you never experienced hate? Have you never felt an opposition between yourself and your environment? What kind of flesh mannequin does not experience musicological consciousness of rebellion (punk, hardcore rap), but beyond that, the will to destroy and conquer your enemy and oppressor (metal)?

>> No.17462842

If I just turn off my computer or tv or smartphone and ignore any advertisements while being aware that they are disingenuous vehicles to sell something for the capitalist's profit motive, is that not the solution to the spectacle? Just don't engage with their tools.

>> No.17462848

The internet has been shitting the bed all day today. Wouldn't mind honestly so long as it just chose a side and either stayed on or stayed off. I could get a lot of reading done like that, but I need to know it's really off and there's nothing I can do about it, or it won't feel as good.

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>>17456579
It's a forbidden truth but violence is always freedom. You can always choose to fiight. You can always choose to throw your body into the maw. It is always an option to resist. The thing is that your own life is the stakes. But so long as you are willing to fight, you are truly free. This is a beautiful truth that ought to be spread among the masses. No matter what, whether it is death of slavery as your options, you can always fight. Is there not a more beautiful truth?

>> No.17462985

>>17456579
Either really good Nag Champra incense or the smell of a spent rifle round. I love how either one can soak into clothes and lodge there, like the smell of sex but with utterly different connotations.

>> No.17462989

>>17462848
The internet is like a hobby to me, which is one of the saddest things I could say. You know, a big reason why I learned Japanese was because I wanted to see their websites. Well, it's the same shit as here. Honestly I can't think of something sadder than a man who earnestly cares what's happening daily on 4chan or reddit or twitter. It's nothing. It's even sadder than competitive gaming - at least that can build character. When I read a VN and it shows a group of friends hanging out, I think, of course that's the right way to live. I haven't had friends since high school. And the internet is surrogate friendship. But it's weak. None of these sites makes up for even a fraction of real friendship. You have to meet people, let yourself get close to them. That's what's beautiful in life. Without that, there's nothing. You're just an autist sitting alone in his room, spamming update on 4chan threads and twiddling his thumbs.

>> No.17462991

>>17462943
>But so long as you are willing to fight, you are truly free. Is there not a more beautiful truth?
For me, the fact that I can destroy a person's will to fight is the most beautiful truth. By puncturing a minute area of the brain,I destroy spiritual possibilities that buddha declared indestructible, that christ declared eternal. Nibbana and heaven lie before me on the operating table. I dip my scalpel into reddish water.

>> No.17462995

>>17462842
No my friend. The propaganda machine is all around you. Read some McLuhan. The medium is the message. Every frame of reference within our modern lives are part of it. Even 4chan shitposting plays its part. We are not immune to propaganda. Literature is simply the early forms of ideological manipulation. There was always purpose behind anything we show others. There is always something wanted, some form of power over others, that is gained, even minutely, when we engage with anything. Think of the simulacra of your appliances. How things used to be done for everything from storing food to shitting. From sending mail to keeping warm. It’s kernel of truth is layered and covered by the spectacle.

>> No.17463005

>>17456579
>favorite smell
Roses. Sweet smell, but not too overpowering, a soft kind of sweet. The smell carried by the breeze that came from grandma's garden, a memory of white lace and rosy cheeks.

>> No.17463024

>>17462817
I gather the kind that knows how to let go of their anger. I've listened to a lot of heavy metal as a teenager and then as an unemployed person, but these days, with my life being calmer and more secure, I lean more towards 80s/90s hits, jazz and classical music. Only sometimes do I listen to more aggressive tunes, a song or two at the time.

>> No.17463029

>>17456579
Greek countryside near the ocean. I don’t know how to describe it, ocean mixed with dry herbs and heat? It’s good though

>> No.17463041

>>17462817
The only metal that ever fully clicked for me is black metal, like Alcest and stuff. It's great stuff

>> No.17463050

My pain is always mine. It is weakness to assume that anyone can rescue me from my pain. Not my mother, not my father. I am not afraid of my pain. I refuse pain. What I am is more than pain. God damn it.

>> No.17463086

>>17463050
*sops, wipes tears away with sweatshirt sleeve*

>> No.17463090

Do you find book or does it find you?

>> No.17463102

>>17463090
Let me put it this way: it's not the book who is getting his wallet out.

>> No.17463105

>>17463090
Either, it depends. For example I have no idea how I found the Corpus Hermeticum and the Hermetic musuem, but going off my time studying it, it found me.

>> No.17463170

KILL THE NERVES KILL THE NERVES. SKEWER EM ON A PIKE AND KILL EM, DESTROY EM, EAT EM FOR BREKKY. YOU WON'T LET THEM CONTROL YOU. YOU WILL LIVE!

>> No.17463271

>tfw wrote on the wrong thread
I used to have a friend in my first year of college who was this autismo ct and we used to hang around all the time until her weird faggoty fandom friends made her stop talking to me and we haven't talked since then. I just remembered her the other day. I've been very jaded since that happened and my hatred for capeshit and anime fandoms will never die. I was on a constant upward projection before that happened and I've never regained that momentum since. Anybody else have one of those sobering moments?

>> No.17463305

What comes first, handholding or the first kiss?

>> No.17463317

>>17463305
in my experience first kiss, hand-holding is an annoyance that men have to put up with when they get into a relationship

>> No.17463327

>>17463317
>hand-holding is an annoyance
wtf, I've always liked it.
Otherwise, my experience has been the same, but I'm a bit autistic, so have trouble knowing what the 'normal' way is.. this gives me trouble all the time, because I'm always insecure it may come out weird.

>> No.17463373

>>17463305
Any day now.. any day... 28 years...

>> No.17463383

How many in here are leftists?

The storm is coming

>> No.17463395

>>17463327
I hate handholding man, my girlfriend is slow as shit for one lol. Yeah I always start with the first kiss anyway, on the first date as well if I walked them back.

>> No.17463399

>>17463317
If something as simple as holding hands is an annoyance you have to put up with, then it might be a sign you don't love the girl enough for a long-term relationship.

>> No.17463410

>>17463399
Being going out for her for over 2 years now man I think I'd know

>> No.17463411

>>17463395
>slow as shit for one
What do you mean? She walks slow? You would need to adjust your speed hand-holding or not, so what's the issue with hand-holding, if we ignore sweaty hands or sth.

>> No.17463417

>>17463410
I don't know, then you're just a bit weird.

>> No.17463427

>>17463411
Yeah she's slow walking and I'm a fast walker, if we're going out for food I'd like to get there before the place is mobbed. Same if we're going to meet friends or whatever. If you're in a rush somewhere it's especially annoying.
>>17463417
Not really desu it's just something I don't like.

>> No.17463432

>>17462991
>I can destroy a person's will to fight
Can you really, though? If someone wants to kick your ass, and you start spouting off lofty philosophical rhetoric, they're just gonna kick your ass even harder.

>> No.17463463

>>17456579
the smell of a qt girls foot

>> No.17463488

If someone can we need an accelerationism general like girardanon used to make

>> No.17463526

>>17463432
I'm not talking about words, I'm talking about puncturing the side of your cranium with a hand drill and pouring boiling water over your cerebral membrane - thereby creating a docile sex zombie. Empty rhetoric is to say that man is free, that man can always resist. If at all, this is only true for the smallest minority, people who can douse themselves with gasoline – what a strange type of freedom. And even to those people there are certain phycisal measures that can be be taken to hurl them back into beastlike, retarded materialism. Man is utterly unfree – because he is a physical thing.

>> No.17463554

>>17463526
Oh... erm. I see. Yes. Well then, very good, carry on.

>> No.17463566

>>17463488
Seconding this make it happen anons

>> No.17463609

>>17463526
t. ghost of dahmer

>> No.17463624

>>17456579
I really like the smell of garlic and onions being cooked or sauteed in a pan. And I know it's basic but I also like the smell of a rainy day.

>> No.17463638

>>17463024
I'm a different anon than you responded to.
Anger isn't the only element to the music; excitement and fun are more upfront to me. To compare it to a different medium, action movies will always be fun to watch for me, more gore the better, and UFC fights will always be exciting. Of course an angry mood might enhance it, but it's not required. I'll never grow out of heavy metal because I respect it as an art form. Marty Friedman's guitar work, Vinnie Abbott's drumming, the bizarre composition of Meshuggah songs, are all as impressive to me as Bruce Lee's acrobatics, or Khabib Nurmagomedov's grappling.

>> No.17463652

>>17463427
4c is the place for honesty.. and you sound pretty insufferable mate, props to your gf for putting up with it

>> No.17463661

>>17463305
Well it depends, sincere relationship-style hand holding comes well after the first kiss. But sometimes 'play' holding hands and is a prelude to kissing - in the sense that physical touching in general is a way of testing the waters; hand around the shoulder, hand on the knee, interlocking fingers - all these things have come before the first kiss in my experience. But it's a different type of hand holding, ultimately.

>> No.17463673

>>17463526
>man is free until death because he can fight
>unless I kill his brain first!
Some profound stuff here.

>> No.17463694

I don't usually come onto /lit/. But lately I've been reading more books so I've been checking this place out on occasion. What are my chances of becoming a pseudo-intellectual like the majority of people here if I stick around?

>> No.17463710

>>17463694
Being pseudo intellectual is better than being a pseudo dumbass like you are right now, so you might as well stick around.

>> No.17463745

>>17463673
You are free to move until something blocks your path. You are free to think until something blocks your thought. The notion that your will is untouchable is simply untrue. That which is physical can be mechanically manipulated. Most people do not fight until death, because at some point they lose their will to fight. The loss of the will to fight is a physical process that can be induced – that is what torture is.

You are free to fight until death only in your imagination. If someone wanted to break this thought of yours, he could, and pretty easily at that. In the worst case scenario for him, he would need to destroy a certain part of your brain. You call this destruction "killing his brain". I don't agree with that. Man is his whole organism, and not reducable to the small part which you regard as the centre of thinking freedom. What he has destroyed is your will to fight, not you, not your brain, but a part of your brain, a part of you – which you thought to be indestrucable.

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>>17463694
Welcome, Anon. What have you read lately?

>> No.17463769

>>Some smells turn the world sepia toned or make your present reality seem like a Disney fiction where everything is nostalgic and sweet. The smell of fresh scones swirls the senses, blending the smell of butter and vanilla with the inner glow of being wrapped in a blanket with a belly full of opioids.

>> No.17463795

>>17463710
Is a pseudo-dumbass even a bad thing?

>>17463746
Right now I'm reading Infinite Jest. Definitely the hardest book I've read so far. Dont really know how to put this but I think I'm slowly starting to grasp the author's writing style. At first I couldn't really keep up but I'm beginning to now.

>> No.17464356

>>17458747
how so

>> No.17464469

>>17461983
>no animals are robots rly uguys
This is your brain on vidya

>> No.17464537

Owls are cute. Even when they're ripping little mice and voles to scraps, they're still cute af. If it were baby owls making their freaky sound at the kitties I could understand why they are scared, but these are just grown up owls being a cute.

>> No.17465107

>>17464356
beheadings

>> No.17465141

>>17461983
>I was speaking rhetorically about the animal sex you autistic fucks
Very poorly, it would seem. Robotize deez nutz

>> No.17465207

>>17456579
I got a scholarship to attend one course from a certain program this year and I have very mixed feelings since it'll have to be online. It feels like a bit of a waste and I can't defer using it. I probably wouldn't have received the scholarship if it wasn't a fucked up year though, so it's better than nothing.

>> No.17465302

>>17463694
Chances of becoming a pseud are high if you stick around. Chances of becoming an intellectual are higher still if you leave here forever.

>> No.17465327

>>17463694
The point of being a pseud: to impress people who know nothing about a given subject. I.e. the 80/20 rule. 80% of the population will be impressed, 20% will know you are full of shit. The fun part on /lit/ is you never know who's who!

How to do it: 1. Find thread. 2. Determine poster you wish to argue against. 3. look up wiki article on thread subject and major terms used by poster. 4. argue the opposite point the poster made but using their language plus what you picked up from the Wikipedia article, bonus points for derivative wiki article information that provides a false sense of breadth to your knowledge base. 5. This will result in the poster either attacking your argument or asking for proof, if these are the replies, then you won and you start over again back at step 1. 6. If poster didn't fall for your bait it means you fucked up in steps 1-4. Do not engage with posters who call you out on your bullshit. They have likely already read the Wikipedia article on the same subject, possibly even the first 20 pages of a secondary source and have an unopened epub of the primary source on their desktop. DO. NOT. ENGAGE. START OVER FROM STEP 1. 7. Do this for years until the information imparted on you is second nature. 8. Start feeling a dreaded sense of emptiness from the constant false front you put on when discussing literature and philosophy you have never read. 8. get an e-reader and start reading the primary sources from the authors but only ever make it through 20 pages of the translator's introduction. 9. Use new information gained from the translator's introduction to argue procedural problems with the philosophers/authors themselves. Transition the argument to a direct attack on the individual as a writer instead of their ideas. 10. After all of this, when you go out in public, discuss topics with friends and strangers. Find out you know more about every single topic discussed on /lit/ than anyone else in your friend group. Find out that you don't need to read shit to impress normies. 11. Go back to /lit/ realizing they are your only friends even though they call you names. 12. cry. 13. Go back to step 1.

>> No.17465575

This is probably the best board on the site, but honestly, this whole site is a plague. There’s truly nothing of value here and I hate myself for wasting so much of my time in this dump. I’m an addict and I admit it.

>> No.17465612

>>17465575
It's social interaction. Were kind programmed to want to do this but all of us are fucked up in the heads somewhere so this becomes our outlet instead of real people.

>> No.17465628

>>17465612
But there’s nothing of value here and it’s a giant time suck. We all know it. Half of the reason we’re not published is because we come here. That’s the truth.

>> No.17465638

Does anyone know how I can order Light Novels in Japanese and have them delivered in the United States? I looked on Amazon Japan but they don’t deliver outside of Japan.

>> No.17465640

Evola:
>Thus, beyond any moralistic sexual taboo, the salient point is precisely “obscenity” — and the current use of obscene language, regardless of absurd pretexts like those concocted by Miller and Lawrence, belongs essentially to the tendency of self-degradation and contamination, of which we have enumerated a series of typical expressions. That the extolment and the exaltation of sex is associated with obscene language that can only make sex disgusting and repellent, can only be considered singular. Anti-conformist revolt, which has descended from Nietzschean heights to the level of solidarity with the Negro, has found a worthy counterpart in those who have recourse to the dirty and vulgar language of the street. If the justifications of obscenity mentioned earlier are made in good faith, we must simply conclude that those who make them do not even realize the nature of the influences they are subject to, that they merely undergo them and are used by them, pulled along by a deep current, the multitudinous manifestations of which all rigorously converge in a single direction.

>Attentive observers will have no difficulty in extending the list of phenomena enumerated here, all of which betray the same origin, and are telltale signs of an atmosphere now prevalent everywhere. We do not need to repeat that any form of conformism is alien to us: in general, conformism consists of residues of bourgeois mores and culture which do not deserve to survive, and which are increasingly affected by processes of dissolution which have become irreversible. Under certain conditions, these processes of dissolution may even be a prerequisite for a new and better order. But this is certainly not the case in everything we have discussed here so far. With regard to all of that, one must only speak of debasement, vulgarity and pure degradation as essential components of the taste and mores predominant today.

>> No.17465650

>>17465628
What part of your systems of value raise other forms of social interaction above this one and why are they 'better' or not? Reading a book is just a conversation with a dead person. Drinking with friends is just chit chat til you black out. Going on a date is just small talk until you fuck. People always want something in person. I think there's something special about this awful place that keeps us here.

>> No.17465684

>>17465650
It’s not a matter of this medium vs that medium but rather the content of the medium. It’s really obvious that this place is mostly garbage. It is social media and we come here more out of habit and addiction than anything actually valuable or productive. I could probably go into a long diatribe over the medium but I won’t. It’s about content. The content here sucks and it wastes our time.

>> No.17465691

>>17465650
Would you chit chat with a friend for 12-16 hours per day every day? Because people do that here.

>> No.17465709

>>17465638
You could try Rakuten. I dunno why you're having that problem, lots of Amazon.co.jp items ship directly to the US

>> No.17465760

>>17465709
I think it’s possibly just the books I’m looking at. I’m a beginner so I’m being specific about which books I want. I found Bookwalker global and Bookwalker Japan. Know anything about it? Bookwalker JP is in Japanese but if I can buy from there and deliver to the US, problem solved.

>> No.17466014

>>17465575
sometimes i wonder just how much engineers working in social media actually affect the rates at which we get addicted to their websites. this is mostly because chan has little no to engineering and still manages to 'capture' people. this could be that our physiology and environment direct toward this type of activity (doom scrolling) and the engineers are just polishing it up a bit.

>> No.17466029

>>17465691
When I was in school I was interacting with people on campus from 9-5 then studying with people or going to bars until 2am. So, kinda yeah. I miss that.

>> No.17466139

>>17466029
Then why don’t you spend 9-5 on Twitter?

>> No.17466152

>>17466014
Well you just can’t assume that addiction is always because of engineering. It’s possible they’re addicting for totally different reasons or varying degrees of both.

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>>17466139
Because this image has been my experience there.

>> No.17466525 [DELETED] 

I want the love of my live to appear in front of my door right fucking now.

>> No.17466567

>>17466160
Right. So what makes this place any different?

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>>17466567
You. You make this place different. And you too.

>> No.17466855

>>17466567
I don't really hate people on /lit/ other than the guy that keeps asking if the character from the trial was guilty at 9pm every night.

>> No.17466861

I feel a desperate need for approval based on how much I've read and watched. Whenever I meet someone more well read than me I feel a mixture of admiration, envy and self-loathing. I wish I wasn't so susceptible to this, for I realize it makes me out to be a complete pseud.
Today my brother's girlfriend expressed amazement at how many books there are in my room and I felt proud, but also ashamed of that ridiculous pride. Something coming to /lit/ helps me to realize how insignificant I am compared to a lot of other vastly more cultured anons.

>> No.17466918

I will cause problems on purpose if I match with her sister on Tinder. Don't care about drama after she destroyed a friendship of 9 years lol

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What would he say about trannies?

>> No.17467135

>>17467101
über- = trans-

>> No.17467156

>This is a SERIOUS show with heavy DRAMA, you can tell because we underexposed and desaturated everything.

Why do producers or whoever makes these decisions do this? It cheapens the whole thing because the second you see the first shot you’re already thinking “damn here we go into the gritty and dark universe”.

>> No.17467420

I will never be accepted as part of this country’s culture, will I?

>> No.17467563

>>17460183

How do you think she comes?

>> No.17467712

>>17465760
Dunno them, sorry. There are lots of sites you can order Japanese books from, if you just want to look around. Might want to check the /jp/ archive for some that do international shipping

>> No.17467765

>>17461705
any specific book?

>> No.17468270

contrarianism is perhaps the easiest way how to sound smart. It's also cheap though and I think that more often than not it goes with the contrarian having very limited information on the subject and far too little respect for renowned authorities.
Again though, for sounding smart with low effort, picking a well sounding subject, preferably not too controversial, and stating a contrarian stance on it is the way to go.

>> No.17468347

A year ago this board was really interested in esotericism, the occult, magic, hermeticism, etc. I’m not seeing so much of it now. I wonder why.

>> No.17468367

whenever i don't know what to do.

I think: what would Big Boss do in this situation. and it's usually the right choice. i don't care if this is cringe or Soi

>> No.17468395

>>17468347
in my case I came to the conclusion most writers that write on this subject are pseuds and it's not so worth looking into afterall.
also, I used to believe in perennialism, but more and more I think differences between religions can't be ignored.. the 'common core' is loose, hard to define as it's fairly easy to find even a live and big religion as a counterexample for pretty much any definition and... most importantly: the 'common core' is more often than not NOT a very dominant concern for most religions.

>> No.17469004

>>17465650
This is strangely sweet

>> No.17469019

>>17466567
There is a certain genuineness in the conversations here that I sorely miss in other online communities (especially Twitter).

>> No.17469141

>>17469019
Yeah there is something genuine about this place, especially /lit/. It's hard to explain why but it feels more connected to reality, a lot of people just want to understand the modern world and why it's so weird, their aim aligns even if the answers differ. It's like there's this looming presence of difficulty and confusion that we all need to answer, and the mutual struggle to do so brings us together. I don't mean to wax poetic, but I'm not lying either

>> No.17469249

>>17469141
I think it’s that we all know we are all full of shit here and part of the ritual is pretending we are right when we know we are just as lost as every other poster. How I can argue with nazis in one thread and then the same poster gives me great writing tips in another, never knowing it’s the same guy. The anonymity also helps in this, we take everyone in such bad Fath that it almost becomes an inverted good faith. This is the total opposite of Twitter, where everyone speaks as if they are correct and there are consequences to what they say either way, leading everyone to be extremely detached to others needs under a false sense of respect but forcibly attached to their own content and persona in a way that never plays in here.

>> No.17469341

It's not a problem but I think I'm in the midst of a hypomanic episode ooh la la

>> No.17469347

>>17469341
Then get something done! Harness the passion and crazed look in your eye!

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>>17456579
the smell of budgies, the smell of freshly washed clothes or the smell of delicious food when I'm hungry, or when you have stopped smoking and can finally breathe normally and have endured a lot again when you go skating

>> No.17469453

this shit fucking sucks man

>> No.17469525
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Alleluia, Alleluia
May flights of angels sing thee to thy rest
Alleluia, Alleluia
Remember me O Lord, when you come into your kingdom
Alleluia, Alleluia
Give rest O Lord to your handmaid, who has fallen asleep
Alleluia, Alleluia
The Choir of Saints have found the well-spring of life and door of paradise
Alleluia, Alleluia
Life a shadow and a dream
Alleluia, Alleluia
Weeping at the grave creates the song Alleluia
Come, enjoy rewards and crowns I have prepared for you
Alleluia, Alleluia, Alleluia

https://youtu.be/YFrcbbMD8ZM

>> No.17469541

Are utopias still being written? Do you know any contemporary one from the last decade?

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I’m in the mood for shilling.

here’s a story by Gilchrist, I feel he doesn’t get enough reads. It’s pretty short.

Would some of you lads read it and tell me how you like it? I love his prose style and his atmosphere.

https://pastebin.com/mcMvYjJi

Alternatively here’s a Dunsany story I put in pastebin, perhaps check that one out instead? It’s also rather short.

https://pastebin.com/d67ck2CU

I love dunsany’s folkloric mythic feel

>> No.17469675

Is archive.org always free? I want to create an account and "borrow" a book from there but I'm worried that if I forget to return it, I will be charged something which I know doesn't make sense but I want you guys to reassure me.

>> No.17469683

>>17469675
Probably, I think it returns automatically. It is some adobe shit, dunno how that works.

>> No.17470224

I wish I could be hypomanic more often. Instead I spend 99% of my life with a lukewarm attitude at best and a death wish at worst

>> No.17470382

>>17470224
Are you on meds?
Hypomania isn't always enjoyable, at least for me. I swing back from euphoria/obsessive enthusiasm to a state of agitation and irritation where I can't stay still for a moment.
I think "stability" for someone with bipolar is sort of like a continuous mildly depressive episode - lots of anhedonia, feeling numb, just going through the motions to keep myself distracted, etc.
Also, hypo doesn't increase your intelligence or lead to some newfound powers like people tend to think. My hypo "projects" seem to be more about quantity than quality whenever I look back at them and cringe.

>> No.17470411

>>17470382
I'm pretty heavily medicated. The irritation is the main reason I'm not going off my meds. That said, the quality of the stuff I create when I'm hypomanic has held up extremely well in the past, and the difference in quantity is baffling. my first book took 2.5 months to get to 90k. My second took 2.5 years to get to 150k

Really though, I just want to enjoy the feeling of hypomania. The high of it means so much more than the product

>> No.17470486

>>17468270
Being contrarian without being able to back up your arguments will get you labeled a pseud quick.
If you can hold the line for a while you do look pretty big brained, which is why you get all these edgy moral relativist takes from the part of the "I fucking love science" crowd who aren't drooling morons.

>> No.17470507

>>17467765
He never wrote a book as far as I know. This video summarizes the “mouse utopia experiments” well though. If you want to get into the meat of his ideas you can always read the original articles

https://youtu.be/NgGLFozNM2o

>> No.17470510

>>17468347
You've still got Gnostics and Platonists around, there was a good thread about a month ago. Some might take their occult talk to /x/.
>>17468395
>most writers that write on this subject are pseuds
>it's not so worth looking into afterall.
Two very different things. It's easy to bullshit with the occult but if you find a writer who knows their shit the difference is remarkable.

>> No.17470587

>>17470411
I feel you brother. Once you get a taste of that sweet hypomania stability just feels like you're an empty husk of yourself. Perhaps my quality vs. quantity example was reductive. My best college papers and essays were written while hypo. But I don't think my IQ or cognitive skills were suddenly sharper. I simply had a more intense and obsessive focus which led to increased productivity, but the crash usually nullifies all of that if not setting me back more.
Are you type 1 or 2?
Hopefully you at least try and get published someday. Those are still impressive accomplishments. It's hard not to jump from one idea to another when hypo. Jack of all trades, master of none.
Anyways, tell me about your books - if you feel comfortable doing so that is.

>> No.17470704

I wish i'd have courage to face life tasks.

>> No.17470737

>>17470587
>Are you type 1 or 2?

technically neither but 2 is closer. I have depressive and hypomanic episodes, but in order to be diagnosed with BPD both of those have to fuck up your life. For me, hypomania just goes brr

>Hopefully you at least try and get published someday

Here's hoping. As soon as I'm done with the first draft of my second book I'm going to work on getting book 1 published. Book 2 I'm not planning on traditionally publishing because it's going to be hard to market and I want to serialize the release to cultivate a fan community.

the first was a historical fantasy about a fortune teller's daughter who wants to be an astrophysicist, only to find out her family's magic is real. It turned out pretty well but I still need to do some editing.

The second is a bit harder to explain. It's an isekai (the alice in wonderland type rather than the jrpg type), but the setting is a city so surreal it's borderline uninhabitable to the kids stranded there. I'm almost done with the first draft but my energy has dried up

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>>17456579
The smell of fresh baked bread is like hope, like some trigger deep in the roots of whatever chain of ancestry that knew this smell meant food, warm food, and a warm fire to eat it buy. I imagine the bliss of heaven abounds with the smells of fresh baked breads...cinnamon, honeywheat..fucking keto I need a good damn carb.

>> No.17470918

>>17456720
True.

>> No.17470923

>>17462817
I always thought metal wasn't heavy enough but maybe we think of a different kind of anger. Metal still has too much calculated form and most of the melodies are too catchy to be angry. When I was younger I would keep searching for something that was more guttural, more aggressive, more destructive, more isolated. In the end, it leaves metal completely and you transgress the boundary between interacting and being. Things like noise music and beyond become worthless because you still extrapolate on something impossible, and it's pure vanity. All those years of searching for the heaviest music turns you into a recluse who, when listening to anything, believes it to be the heaviest thing simply because it is what is there. Obviously that's an exaggeration.

>> No.17470941

>>17470737
Yeah I think it's more of a spectrum, but if you can control your hypo episodes and channel them into something productive you probably have enough self awareness to get your work done at a pace that reflects your skills without going full on psychotic. That's a positive sign.
I'm more on the type 2 side and purposefully induce hypomania to accomplish tasks or get by in social situations. It works but what goes up must come down. Doing that for your first book and then editing it when you're more level-headed is smart - not sure about you but when I'm hypo I'm embarrassingly verbose. Editing my hypomanic work while stable is always effective, hopefully it's worked for you as well.
Guessing your meds might be dulling your cognition to some extent. That's what's made it so hard for me to stick to mine. So if you're like me the temptation to ditch them for a bit and regain the "magic" you used to get your first book done might be high. Obviously I'm not trying to tell you to ditch your meds but you should ride the waves and see what works best for you. Your ideas seem interesting. You can use your curse as a blessing if you're careful. If you're okay with the slower pace and side effects of meds, and think you can produce equally good work regardless, then godspeed. Best of luck anon.

>> No.17470984

>>17456579
Right boys, I'm sure of it this time. I've thought about writing a 'known truths' diagram on my wall straight in front of me so each morning when I wake up I know that I'm not going to get anywhere questioning if everything is or isn't. But, there's no point really. It might be fun to do, but I have hit the wall of logic. I know, there cannot be anything but this, and there is no emotive bias here. Its really not good or bad. It could be good in the sense I don't have to worry about it anymore. It could be bad in the sense that I have the burden of 'knowing'. The rules of all rules are, as far as I know, I am. I can't really know anything else outside of this, so it essentially doesn't matter, in that I don't have to fear that there is a hidden trapdoor because there can't be, and if there were, it would just be another aspect of reality. Even the outside MUST be in reality. Death is in reality, existence is reality. But you can't unexist. Everything must exist. There is no blackness after death, there is still something, and there will be something forever. So that's it. Even if its not the outside of reality, its the outside of my current thinking capacity, which I will always either live in or scrape the edge of, and if my capacity is inside reality then the process is just the same on the outside. I would really like someone to try to disprove me. And if all I get is irrelevant insults, I know I am right. I mean, I know I'm not anywhere as far as I can tell - which is the point.

>> No.17471057

>>17463488
>accelerationism
no functioning adult takes this shit seriously. just worthless masturbatory thought experiments.

>> No.17471070

postbeing: deleted. as a meta fore posts being deleted

>> No.17471109

>>17470984
People always say there is nothingness after death, without realizing the irony in that there was also nothingness before you were born. So I think you're right, Anon.

>> No.17471393

I'm thinking of doing a masters in linguistics of philology either in Germany or Switzerland because the tuition is either very low or free (If you're in the EU like me). Anybody know if I would be wasting my time doing this or would I be able to get a comfy job after?

>> No.17471423

>>17471393
if you want to get into academics, then do it for the sake of the subject itself, not for a career. otherwise you will hate it and be utterly disappointed. basically stop being worried about "devoting" yourself to a cause you are clearly not terribly interested (considering you had to ask this question in the first place) in.

>> No.17471431

>>17471423
It's more the fact that I am interested in those fields but I don't want to do go and spend a year or two getting my masters only for it to be useless at the end.

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What will the history books say about 21st century imageboards? Will the obscuration of time shroud them in mystique? You can certainly dress them colorfully; a digital underground of undesirables, extremists, hackers, perverts, and rogue academics, from which sprang forth a hacker collective, a minor political movement, and a major terrorist attack. Ideas otherwise considered taboo are discussed freely. Mainstream news outlets have given special attention to demonize imageboards and their users. Will next century's teenagers lament being born in the wrong decade and unable to take part in the 21st century digital underground? Or will the whole affair be remembered as an embarrassing anime convention for manchildren?

>> No.17471483

>>17471431
if you intend to actually be invested in those fields then go for it. if you're seeking to "gain" the knowledge and hope a company hires you then don't waste your time.