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[Anonymous No.17485364]

why did he attack the church, the last bastion against freemasonic subversion?

[Anonymous No.17485374]

>>17485364
Part retard, part original thinker.

[Anonymous No.17485379]

He thought he was a magician. It was kind of a larp even if he had valid points.

[Anonymous No.17485385]

What’s the deal with Freemasons?

[Anonymous No.17485394]

>>17485379
Didn't he quit magic in 1928?

[Anonymous No.17485429]

>>17485364
Slave morality + Vatican II, but a lot of the chatter about him attacking the church is exaggerated. He had a fairly nuanced opinion on Catholicism.

[Anonymous No.17485450]

>>17485429
Vatican II happened when Evola was like 64

[Anonymous No.17485460]

>>17485450
He saw it coming a mile away.

[Anonymous No.17485504]

>>17485460
Pius XII was a good pope though.

[Anonymous No.17485526]

>>17485364
>the last bastion against freemasonic subversion
Because it wasn’t (isn’t)

[Anonymous No.17485551]

>>17485379
>>17485394
What does it really mean? Was he, or did he claim to be, able to cast spells and do supernatural things?

[Anonymous No.17485558]

>>17485364
Isn't Freemasonry tied to the Catholic Church?

[Anonymous No.17485578]

>>17485551
He literally wrote a book called Introduction to Magic: Rituals and Practical Techniques for the Magus.
>>17485558
Catholics are literally prohibited from joining masonry, at the risk of excommunication,

[Anonymous No.17485590]

>>17485578
>Catholics are literally prohibited from joining masonry, at the risk of excommunication,
Not everywhere at all times, for example in Mozart's time where he lived Freemasonry was not yet rejected by the Church.

[Anonymous No.17485619]

>>17485590
>Freemasonry was not yet rejected by the Church.
was he catholic?

[Anonymous No.17485620]

>>17485551
Magic is mostly just heightened modes of consciousness which gives you a stronger or augmented ontology tor whatever purpose.

[Anonymous No.17485633]

>>17485551
I doubt it, we're only human. Not saying there isn't magic but the vast majority of it is something we havent reached yet

[Anonymous No.17485643]

>>17485590
They banned its members from joining the order and have been vocal and persistent critics since 1738. It just wasn't likely enforced everywhere, especially in places where the church didn't have as much control.
>>17485619
Mozart was a Catholic.

[Anonymous No.17485698]

>>17485450
I already mentioned that he was opposed to Christianity in more general terms as well, because of its anti-aristocratic values. Vatican II is still an important moment, since it sealed the deal in regard to the opportunity of reintegrating transcendence into European Christianity.

[Anonymous No.17485701]

Because it was no longer a bastion and hadn't been for some time. He respected Donoso Cortéz and Joseph de Maistre but by his time they essentially represented a dead religion, the Catholic Church increasingly supported democracy and it was clearly just a copiate enfeebling the stalwart. He saw Islam had much greater strength

[Anonymous No.17485736]

I was a warlock
Across the Alpines I did hike

[Anonymous No.17485751]

>>17485633
you underestimate what humans are capable of.

[Anonymous No.17485798]

>>17485364
This is from Revolt. Bear in mind that his views on Christianity evolved throughout his life but the crux of his argument here is the same as it always is.


>[…] In order to follow the development of forces that shaped the Western world, it is necessary to briefly consider Catholicism. Catholicism developed through (a) the rectification of various extremist features of primitive Christianity; (b) the organization of a ritual, dogmatic, and symbolic corpus beyond the mere mystical, soteriological element; and (c) the absorption and adaptation of doctrinal and organizational elements that were borrowed from the Roman world and from classical civilization in general. This is how Catholicism at times displayed "traditional" features, which nevertheless should not deceive us: that which in Catholicism has a truly traditional character is not typically Christian and that which in Catholicism is specifically Christian can hardly be considered traditional. Historically, despite all the efforts that were made to reconcile heterogeneous and contradictory elements, and despite the work of absorption and adaptation on a large scale, Catholicism always betrays the spirit of lunar, priestly civilizations and thus it continues, in yet another form, the antagonistic action of the Southern influences, to which it offered a real organization through the Church and her hierarchy.

>This becomes evident when we examine the development of the principle of authority that was claimed by the Church. During the early centuries of the Christianized empire and during the Byzantine period, the Church still appeared to be subordinated to imperial authority; at Church councils the bishops left the last word to the ruler not only in disciplinary but also in doctrinal matters. Gradually, a shift occurred to the belief in the equality of the two powers of Church and empire; both institutions came to be regarded as enjoying a supernatural authority and a divine origin. With the passage of time we find in the Carolingian ideal the principle according to which the king is supposed to rule over both clergy and the people on the one hand, while on the other hand the idea was developed according to which the royal function was compared to that of the body and the priestly function to that of the soul; thereby the idea of the equality of the two powers was implicitly abandoned, thus preparing the way for the real inversion of relations.

[Anonymous No.17485802]

>>17485798
>By analogy, if in every rational being the soul is the principle that decides what the body will do, how could one think that those who admitted to having authority only in matters of social and political concern should not be subordinated to the Church, to whom they willingly recognized the exclusive right over and direction of souls? Thus, the Church eventually disputed and regarded as tantamount to heresy and a prevarication dictated by pride that doctrine of the divine nature and origin of regality; it also came to regard the ruler as a mere layman equal to all other men before God and his Church, and a mere official invested by mortal beings with the power to rule over others in accordance with natural law. According to the Church, the ruler should receive from the ecclesiastical hierarchy the spiritual element that prevents his government from becoming the civitas diaboli. Boniface VIII, who did not hesitate to ascend to the throne of Constantine with a sword, crown, and scepter and to declare: "I am Caesar, I am the Emperor," embodies the logical conclusion of a theocratic, Southern upheaval in which the priest was entrusted with both evangelical swords (the spiritual and the temporal); the imperium itself came to be regarded as a beneficium conferred by the pope to somebody, who in return owed to the Church the same vassalage and obedience a feudal vassal owes the person who has invested him. However, since the spirituality that the head of the Roman Church incarnated remained in its essence that of the "servants of God," we can say that far from representing the restoration of the primordial and solar unity of the two powers, Guelphism merely testifies to how Rome had lost its ancient tradition and how it came to represent the opposite principle and the triumph of the Southern weltanschauung in Europe. In the confusion that was beginning to affect even the symbols, the Church, who on the one hand claimed for herself the symbol of the sun vis-à-vis the empire (to which she attributed the symbol of the moon), on the other hand employed the symbol of the Mother to refer to herself and considered the emperor as one of her "children." Thus, the Guelph ideal of political supremacy marked the return to the ancient gynaecocratic vision in which the authority, superiority, and privilege of spiritual primacy was accorded to the maternal principle over the male principle, which was then associated with the temporal and ephemeral reality. […]

[Anonymous No.17485814]

>>17485504
Him and Pope Pius knew of each other and didn't get along.

[Anonymous No.17485938]

>>17485364
Masons are literally holding up the pagan tradition against the Christian orthodoxy with its suppression against the magical living natural cosmos. The meaningless valueless world of modernity is the product of christianity with its insistence on transcendental, clashing with scientific investigation of nature which shows everything to be permeated with matter. The only way for values to exist and the redemption from western degeneracy is the relinquishment of Christian transcendence and the resacralization of material. Nature is the way, and the building blocks for happy and right way to live are embedded in your instincts, but it's the christian myth which have taught western man to not listen them and call them "just" instincts, merely biological and material, and thus secondary. Your countries are being invaded, institutions used for looting and inside your ancestors are crying out to do something, but obedience to the christian slave-morality prevents you from doing anything about it, and on the contrary has made this passivity against oppressors a virtue, it's the eternal afterlife that really matters right?

[Anonymous No.17485946]

>>17485938
>Masons are literally holding up the pagan tradition against the Christian orthodoxy with its suppression against the magical living natural cosmos.
retarded right off the bat. Masons are bastardized hermetics, and Christian doctrine of Immanence is a far more authentic expression of a "magical living cosmos" than whatever cartesian deism the masons believe.

[࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDYSEULU. No.17485965]

>>17485698


CHRISTIANITY IS NOT ANTIARISTOCRATIC; CONTRARILY: IT IS ARISTOCRATIC; ONLY THE BEST CAN BE SAVED.

[Anonymous No.17486107]

>>17485364
Because he wanted to fuck with the Freemasons.

[Anonymous No.17486171]

>>17485965
>universalist proselytising religion

[Anonymous No.17486178]

>>17485385
They are profane.

[࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDYSEULU. No.17486252]

>>17486171


DO YOU HAVE AN ARGUMENT?

[Anonymous No.17487714]

>>17485364
Bump

[Anonymous No.17489348]

>>17485364
Bump.

[Anonymous No.17489618]

>>17485551
>hasn't taken the magiic-pill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRVQD4FKPrY

[Anonymous No.17490250]

>>17486252
That's the argument, anon. It's a universalist proselytising religion. There is nothing "aristocratic" about it.

[Anonymous No.17490312]

Reminder that catholic monarchists like De Maistre used to be masons. Freemasonry wasn't bad until the modern spirit infiltrated it. Guenon wrote about this in some of his letters to Evola.

[Anonymous No.17490332]

>>17485946
came to post this

[Anonymous No.17490360]

What societal changes was the church a bastion against in the 20th century? Please explain without recourse to pictures of late medieval gothic cathedrals retouched by city planners in the 19th century with quotes from various fiction writers imposed on them.

[Anonymous No.17490396]

>>17485578
De Maistre was a Freemason, so was most of French upper class during 1700-1800, and probably was even after that.
Not to mention that Adam Weishaupt, the creator of Bavarian Illuminati was trained by Jesuits, and Bavarian Illuminati basically schemed with Feemasons, Rosicruscians, bankers, and other secretive groups. So there is no opposition between the Vatican and the world revolution, even if there are few isolated Catholics who oppose it.

[Anonymous No.17490436]

>>17490360
>What societal changes was the church a bastion against in the 20th century?
The most obvious answer is socialism you absolutely historically illiterate retard.

[Anonymous No.17490476]

>>17490436
How did that work out now that you have a libertion theology Jesuit for a pope and all the Europeans and North Americans are atheists while South America is rapidly retreating to pentacostalism?

[Anonymous No.17490548]

>>17485938
>scientific investigation of nature which shows everything to be permeated with matter

Ever heard of a vacuum, you fucking retard? A great deal of space between galaxies is almost devoid of matter and given the size of the universe this may account for the majority of 'space.' some of the earliest practitioners of 'science' in the enlightenment were fascinated by vaccums. This is your brain on DaVinci Code-tier conspiracy history.

[࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDYSEULU. No.17490660]

>>17490250


1. IT IS A STATEMENT, NOT AN ARGUMENT.

2. NEITHER UNIVERSALISM, NOR PROSELYTIZATION, PRECLUDE, OR ARE ANTITHETICAL TOWARD, ARISTOCRACY.

YOU IGNORE WHAT ARE ARISTOCRACY, UNIVERSALISM, AND CHRISTIANITY.

HAVE YOU EVEN READ THE GOSPELS? I DOUBT IT.

[Anonymous No.17490788]

>>17490660
Very well, if you are so insistent then I will unwrap my argument.
What are the virtues of Christianity and the spiritual peak of Christianity?
We can not disregard charity, kindness and above all humility as Christian virtues. Pride, the opposite of humility, is in fact conceived as the deadliest sin. Emphasis is constantly put on oneness between the believers, levelling of all hierarchies, prostration before God and salvation through grace. The spiritual peak of Christianity consists not in self-possession, heroism or transcendental confidence, but rather in submission and self-renunciation; the acknowledgement of the lowness of the individual in contrast to the highness of God. Christianity has, moreover, always been partial to the plebeian masses and first began to take root in them. Even the apostles, with the exception of Saul, were largely plebeians.
All of this goes contrary to the aristocratic principles of inherent dignity, natural command and self-possession. Up until the days of Christianity, the Romans considered the gods their worthy equals, whom they lived alongside in a manner appropriate to their dignified nature. The contrast could not be greater when compared with the paternal nature of the Christian god and the relationship of need that exists between him and Christian faithful.

[Anonymous No.17490842]

>>17490788
What about Vedanta and the hindu brahmins? They were at top of society with a doctrine very similar to nondual christianity.

[Anonymous No.17490897]

>>17490842
>What about Vedanta and the hindu brahmins?
What about them?
>a doctrine very similar to nondual christianity.
Pardon? Are you referring to some type of heresy or the more obscure forms of Christian monastic mysticism?

[࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDYSEULU. No.17490906]

>>17490788


YOU ARE IGNORANT.

[Anonymous No.17490931]

>>17490906
>cope

[Anonymous No.17490983]

>>17490897
I am referring especially to Meister Eckhart, his views are very similar to Vedanta(which isn't polytheist at all).

[Anonymous No.17491013]

>>17490983
I have read nothing by Meister Eckhart, but Evola thought he was the most based Christian to ever live.
>his views are very similar to Vedanta(which isn't polytheist at all)
I wouldn't know anything about similarities, but I am with you on polytheism. "Monotheism" and "polytheism" are terms that completely miss the point in the context of Hinduism.

[Anonymous No.17491104]

>>17491013
Evola thought that just because he copied the big boys(Guenon and Coomaraswamy) without understanding their point. When I read him it almost feel like I read a 4chan poster which has certain ideas just because they are "based". Anyway, as Guenon pointed out, for the orthodox hindu understanding, devas/gods are like the abrahamic angelic beings, manifestations of God/Brahman(I know that Ishvara would be closer to the average christian understanding of God but I used Brahman just because it fits better in this example).

[Anonymous No.17491194]

>>17491104
>Evola thought that just because he copied the big boys(Guenon and Coomaraswamy) without understanding their point.
I strongly doubt that.
>When I read him it almost feel like I read a 4chan poster which has certain ideas just because they are "based".
Now I doubt you too.
>Anyway, as Guenon pointed out, for the orthodox hindu understanding, devas/gods are like the abrahamic angelic beings, manifestations of God/Brahman(I know that Ishvara would be closer to the average christian understanding of God but I used Brahman just because it fits better in this example).
That would be an apt comparison. Evola also considered these types of lower ranked divine beings to represent certain states of consciousness achievable by the devoted practitioner.

[Anonymous No.17491577]

>>17485364
His family descends from occultist jews in Spain

Mussolini only kept him around as a barking dog to scare the catholic church into submission. He would have him publish some unhinged anti-Christian nonsense in the paper to make the church think anti-clericists were on the verge of taking over mussolini's government.

After Evola had been discarded as a useful idiot, he was laughed out of Italy where he went to Germany to LARP further. He was also laughed out of Germany, where he then returned to Italy to sit in his wheelchair and LARP to himself.

If you honestly think this unhinged crippled retard just hated Christianity due to his hard principles, yet gave retard religions like budhism and hinduism a free pass, you are lying to yourself. Evola was a complete freak and a shill. Today his work has been revived by a literal israeli jew in Vermont at Inner Traditions. This isn't a coincidence.

[Anonymous No.17491623]

>>17491577
I am ready to take the blue[-haired] pill. Which traditionalist authors affirm this east-hand path?

[Anonymous No.17491643]

>>17485364
>Church
>Bastion of anything after Vatican II
he explains it somewhere in this interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiCtdi5nCoA

[Anonymous No.17491758]

>>17491577
who's the Vermont jew? ty for this info

[Anonymous No.17491778]

>>17485698
>since it sealed the deal in regard to the opportunity of reintegrating transcendence into European Christianity.
What about Eastern Orthodoxy?

[Anonymous No.17491784]

>>17485814
>that quote at the bottom
kek

[Anonymous No.17491786]

>>17485590
Because freemasonry started off as a guild of stone masons.
It then went off the deep end.

[Anonymous No.17491796]

>>17485698
He said in one of his last essays (I forget which exactly now) that he would embrace the Catholic Church fully if they accepted the Syllabus of Errors as Doctrine.

[Anonymous No.17491807]

>>17490476
Vatican II and its consequences etc. etc.

[Anonymous No.17491863]

>>17491577
>His family descends from occultist jews in Spain
Weird you say this, since nothing about his personal background is actually known.
>Mussolini only kept him around as a barking dog to scare the catholic church into submission. He would have him publish some unhinged anti-Christian nonsense in the paper to make the church think anti-clericists were on the verge of taking over mussolini's government.
Except for that one time Mussolini commissioned him to create a circle that would define the fascist position on race, I guess? Don't worry. I am sure you simply forgot and aren't pushing a narrative.
>After Evola had been discarded as a useful idiot, he was laughed out of Italy where he went to Germany to LARP further. He was also laughed out of Germany, where he then returned to Italy to sit in his wheelchair and LARP to himself.
Cope.
>If you honestly think this unhinged crippled retard just hated Christianity due to his hard principles, yet gave retard religions like budhism and hinduism a free pass, you are lying to yourself. Evola was a complete freak and a shill. Today his work has been revived by a literal israeli jew in Vermont at Inner Traditions. This isn't a coincidence.
jazzhands.jpg

It's always kpopfags. I can't even begin to describe what would be done to people like you in any normal state and society.
>>17491623
What does that mean? Are you asking about the left-hand path? The east would coincide with the right-hand path.

[Anonymous No.17491897]

>>17491778
Eastern Orthodoxy is more complicated. Evola was not as well acquainted with it, as far as I am aware, but he thought that the initiatic elements in Orthodoxy are essentially non-Christian anyway, so it's not a model tradition in its own right. At the same time, during Evola's time Orthodoxy was being destroyed by Bolshevism and moreover the West was Catholic rather than Orthodox, so any Western solution would also necessarily have had to be Catholic. Protestantism couldn't feel the role not just because of its religious character, but also because it's decentralised and fragmented.
>>17491796
That does not sound accurate. You mean support the Catholic Church fully or personally become a Catholic?

[Anonymous No.17491950]

>>17491897
He wasn't clear.
I believe he meant personally become a Catholic.
I shall try to find the essay.

[Anonymous No.17491991]

>>17485364
>the church, the last bastion against freemasonic subversion?

[Anonymous No.17491995]

>>17491897
Orientations, part 11, paragraph 3.
I misremembered, he would support the Church.
There is nothing there about converting.

[Anonymous No.17491998]

>>17491950
Thank you for putting in the effort. I'd be curious to see the quote.

[Anonymous No.17492035]

>>17491998
"But this spirituality, which must be alive among us, does not require obligatory dogmatic formulations of a given religious confession; however, the style of life that must be drawn from it is not that of Catholic moralism, which aims for little more than a virtuistic domestication of a human animal; politically, this spirituality cannot but foster mistrust in respect to everything that as humanitarianism, equality, principle of love and of the forgiveness instead of honor and justice; it is an integral part of the Christian conception. Certainly, if Catholicism were capable of making a program of high ascesis its own and exactly on this base, almost like a recovery of the spirit of the best Medieval crusader, makes of faith the soul of an armed bloc of forces, almost a new close-knit Templar Order, relentless against the currents of chaos, breakdowns, subversion, and the practical materialism of the modern world—certainly, in such a case, and also in the case that, at the minimum, it held firm to the positions of the Syllabus, there could not be a single instance of doubt about our choice."
>>17491995
Here.
I realised not all people would have access to the work so I've copy-pasted from a pdf I have.
You can find his essay in the Handbook for Traditional Youth I believe.

[Anonymous No.17492057]

>>17485578
Lmao no, half of Italy's political class is in Freemason lodges. The Vatican doesn't care

[Anonymous No.17492064]

>>17491577
>bugposter thinks its opinion matters

[Anonymous No.17492067]

>>17491863
>What does that mean? Are you asking about the left-hand path? The east would coincide with the right-hand path.
It means it's time to reject modernity and return to steppe

[Anonymous No.17492078]

>>17491995
I thought it'd be something like that. Perennialists don't really convert, even when they convert - check Guenon for reference. Evola did, however, think that the Church had served as a bridge to transcendence and barrier to demonism many times throughout the millennia.
>>17492035
Apart from the Syllabus, there is also one more reservation in regards to the character and focus in Catholicism, but yes, that is a view typical of Evola. An animated adherence to a strong set of principles and values is his ideal.

[Anonymous No.17492085]

>>17492067
>it's time to reject modernity and return to steppe
>posts a guy who conquered half the planet in order to escape the steppe
Hmmm...

[Anonymous No.17492120]

>>17492067
Based and nomad pilled

[Anonymous No.17492227]

>>17492078
I think it was more than that.
I believe Evola, demoralised by the steady trudge of liberalism after the war, started to look towards movements which he saw as attempting to buck modernity.
So Archbishop Lefebvre and Franco come to mind as men in his time which were 'in revolt' against modernity and materialism.
>>17492067
There was an Indo-European people in Romania which built cities, only to burn them down every 50 years and move.
That is the true way.

[Anonymous No.17492265]

>>17492227
>I believe Evola, demoralised by the steady trudge of liberalism after the war, started to look towards movements which he saw as attempting to buck modernity.
I have to disagree. He always emphasised the necessity of principles, which is why he makes those two caveats in the quote you posted. Endorsing the Church as a defender of tradition is a pretty natural thing to do, so long as the Church is really fighting the good fight. I am not so sure about Franco. He watered down the Spanish revolution quite badly and Evola had no love for bourgeois society, after all.

[Anonymous No.17492311]

>>17492265
I agree when it comes to the Church, not about Franco.
Yes you're right when it comes to watering down the revolution, however from what I've read Evola was hesitantly optimistic about Francoist Spain as time went on.
Franco is his later years was more traditionalist than early Franco, especially when it comes to denouncing the international money system publicly.

[Anonymous No.17492370]

>>17485364
I'm pretty sure he thought the Masons were lit.

[Anonymous No.17492430]

He was plebfiltered.

[Anonymous No.17492548]

>>17490548
>I-IT IS ALL EMPTY OKAY
>EMPTY SPACE
sure retard, tell me what this "Space" abstraction is made of

[Anonymous No.17492617]

>>17492227
>There was an Indo-European people in Romania which built cities, only to burn them down every 50 years and move.
>That is the true way.
I have no argument against this. It's the most anti-behavioral sink practice possible while still maintaining the stability needed to improve each generation. Do you have any books on these learned masters?

[Anonymous No.17492685]

>>17490548
>space isn't matter

[Anonymous No.17492693]

>>17485620
look the one true redpill of this thread.

[Anonymous No.17492720]

>>17492617
I'm sorry but no.
The only works that I've found on this are academic papers (most of which are trash) or untranslated works.
The phenomena was known as the Burned house horizon.
Perhaps you might find books where I have failed.

[Anonymous No.17492744]

>>17492057
because now after the "spirit of CVII", the infiltration is complete.
up to relatively recently tho we had rerun novarum and theology of the body and absolutely seething old ladies praying furiously the rosary at any and all degeneracy.

[Anonymous No.17492823]

>>17492311
>Franco is his later years was more traditionalist than early Franco, especially when it comes to denouncing the international money system publicly.
The issue is that his actions bound Spain to liberal capital, despite his rhetoric.

[Anonymous No.17492848]

>>17492720
They were burned, weren't they?

[Anonymous No.17492984]

>>17485551
He did have the reputation of a mage. Mussolini notoriously made the gesture of the "corna" (horns), which is common in Italy against the evil eye, whenever he had to interact with Evola.

[Anonymous No.17493583]

>>17492370
>Moreover, we must also note that the revolutionary action of modern, speculative Freemasonry is that which undermined the civilizations ofthe Second Estate and prepared, through democracies, the advent of the Third Estate. Concerning the first point, even on the most external level one cannot help laughing at the sight of pictures of English kings who, as Masonic dignitaries, wear the apron and other signs of artisan corporations.

[Anonymous No.17493594]

>>17492370
No, he had a negative view of masons overall but there was some debate about masonry within his milieu.

[Anonymous No.17493601]

>>17492744
Can you explain what you mean by spirit of the CVII? I know about the modernism pious x fought against but I don't have a solid knowledge on the matter

[Anonymous No.17493617]

>>17493601
Not him, but that probably stands for "spirit of the council Vatican II", which is a bit weird since typically it's just referred to as "the spirit of Vatican II".

[Anonymous No.17493677]

>>17491758
Ehud Sperling

>>17491863
>Weird you say this, since nothing about his personal background is actually known.
Haha no, look into his family tree. Why do you think he keeps his (((background))) so vague? His family changed their name from being Spanish Kabbalist scholars in Spain and moved to Italy in the 1500-1600's

>The spiritual race LARP
You can look at dialogues around Evola at the time, he was a complete joke in Italy. Should also be mentioned that Mussolini's entire "doctrine of fascism" was written by a Jewish artisocrat woman with ties to the pope. Make of that what you will
>Cope
Cope is what Evola and all of his fanboys do

I'm not even Catholic and his take on Catholicism is the most hilarious thing i've read from a (((philosopher))).

[Anonymous No.17493692]

>>17493677
>Haha no, look into his family tree.
What tree, retard? That's the whole point of it being secret, are you actually looking at something authentic or bullshit that some random sperg cooked up?
>You can look at dialogues around Evola at the time, he was a complete joke in Italy. Should also be mentioned that Mussolini's entire "doctrine of fascism" was written by a Jewish artisocrat woman with ties to the pope. Make of that what you will
Lmao you're one of those guys. Next time post a maga hat anime girl instead of a k-pop one, it makes things more obvious.
>I'm not even Catholic and his take on Catholicism
You probably don't even know what his take on Catholicism actually is, though.

[Anonymous No.17493740]

>>17493692
>What tree, retard?
If you weren't a drooling pant shitting goycattle, you would know how to do your own research instead of gobbling down whatever the bots and shills tell you on (((dissident right))) spheres of the internet. You can start at Geni.com if can manage to rub all two brain cells together to use it

>Lmao you're one of those guys. Next time post a maga hat anime girl instead of a k-pop one, it makes things more obvious.
What the fuck are you talking about? MAGAfags and Evolatards are in the same basket of 95 IQ lumpenproles

>You probably don't even know what his take on Catholicism actually is, though.
I read four of his books and felt they were fishy, that's when I began digging.

Dissident right babies on the internet are usually very young and naive. They think that if a writer just says something "based" then they're on their side. They haven't even scratched the surface on what's going on here and how deep this rabbit trail goes

[Anonymous No.17493758]

>>17493740
>If you weren't a drooling pant shitting goycattle, you would know how to do your own research instead of gobbling down whatever the bots and shills tell you on (((dissident right))) spheres of the internet. You can start at Geni.com if can manage to rub all two brain cells together to use it
Bro you're full of shit lol
>What the fuck are you talking about? MAGAfags and Evolatards are in the same basket of 95 IQ lumpenproles
Dilate.
>I read four of his books and felt they were fishy, that's when I began digging.
Which ones and what did you find fishy.

[Anonymous No.17493804]

>>17493758
>Bro you're full of shit lol
https://www.jstor.org/stable/25022841?seq=1

ok, start here

>Dilate
same people who are funding the (((dissident right))) are funding the trans industrial complex

>Which ones
Revolt, Ride, metaphysics of war, Eros

His takes coincidentally align with many of the spook narratives they were pushing in Europe from 1850-1945 (occultism, nietzcheanism, ect.), and like I said he gives insane eastern religions a free pass while shitting on Catholicism but explaining away the accomplishments of Catholic Europe with "W-well it was the remnant of paganism living within Catholicism!!!!" which is a bizarrely lazy argument compared to his other decent Platonic arguments for hierarchy and history. My point being, something strange and disingenuous is going on.

But if you're that attached to him, you can have him

[Anonymous No.17493844]

>>17492057
They care, but freemasons don't.

[Anonymous No.17493848]

>>17491796
There is a chapter in The Sufi of Rome where Evola recounts a dream he had of being Pope. It's quite funny.

[Anonymous No.17493866]

>>17493804
>ok, start here
That's a paywall, anon.
>same people who are funding the (((dissident right))) are funding the trans industrial complex
No one is funding the dissident right. I want you to tell me what your position is and where you are coming from because the stuff you say is just bizarre.
>His takes coincidentally align with many of the spook narratives they were pushing in Europe from 1850-1945 (occultism, nietzcheanism, ect.), and like I said he gives insane eastern religions a free pass while shitting on Catholicism but explaining away the accomplishments of Catholic Europe with "W-well it was the remnant of paganism living within Catholicism!!!!" which is a bizarrely lazy argument compared to his other decent Platonic arguments for hierarchy and history. My point being, something strange and disingenuous is going on.
What would that be? I would like to hear your arguments so that I may respond to them. Are you a Protestant of some sort? I take it you prize Christianity highly, but you also mentioned you are not Catholic. As to Evola's exact argument, he was not saying that paganism was living within the Catholic Church, but rather that certain elements of paganism rectified early Christian excesses within the Church. The more important part for Evola was an essentially pagan ethos remaining widespread within the aristocracy rather than the clergy - he thought that this ethos is what provided the constructive and healthy character of European culture during the Middle Ages, although it quickly degenerated into weird bullshit.
>But if you're that attached to him, you can have him
I am and I will, but that's not really of interest here.

[Anonymous No.17493869]

>>17490360
Capitalism, sexual revolution, etc.

[Anonymous No.17493900]

>>17490476
Protestrannies want to see the world burn only to shit on the Catholic Church. You prefer Atheism and cultist voodoo revival to proper Christianity. Don't get so excited, things must go wilder than they are.

[Anonymous No.17493940]

>>17485938
The meaningless valueless world of modernity were summoned by the Freemasonic French Revolution. In the year of our Lord 2021 never in history freemasonry had had such power to the detriment of Christianity, yet we're more modernists, scientists, and degenerates than ever.

[Anonymous No.17493942]

>>17493900
If you think the Catholic Church hasn't been just another corporate goy ranch since it was implemented in 380 AD, you're fucking delusional.

"Protestant" social engineers and Catholic goy ranchers were working together. They've never been at war, but 18 year old tradcaths in 2021 think this shit is real and relevant

[Anonymous No.17493954]

>>17491577
>>17493677
>>17493804
Informative stuff. Got any non-jewed thinkers you would recommend?

[Anonymous No.17493964]

>>17493942
>corporate goy ranch
What power did the Jews have in 1492 and what power do they have today? How many Catholics were in Europe in 1492 and how many are there today? The answer to these questions should give you a hint.

[Anonymous No.17493970]

>>17485620
Based, redpilled, and heterosexual.

[Anonymous No.17493979]

>>17493964
Anon... Jesus is LITERALLY a rabbi... it's right there in the Bible...

[Anonymous No.17493991]

>>17485364
anybody who mentions freemasons is automatically outing themselves as COINTELPRO fake schizo noise

[Anonymous No.17494007]

>>17493991
Yes, yes, schizo noise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due
>Propaganda Due (Italian pronunciation: [propaˈɡanda ˈduːe]; P2) was a Masonic lodge under the Grand Orient of Italy, founded in 1877. Its Masonic charter was withdrawn in 1976, and it transformed into a clandestine, pseudo-Masonic, ultraright[1][2][3] organization operating in contravention of Article 18 of the Constitution of Italy that banned secret associations. In its latter period, during which the lodge was headed by Licio Gelli, P2 was implicated in numerous Italian crimes and mysteries, including the collapse of the Vatican-affiliated Banco Ambrosiano, the murders of journalist Mino Pecorelli and banker Roberto Calvi, and corruption cases within the nationwide bribe scandal Tangentopoli. P2 came to light through the investigations into the collapse of Michele Sindona's financial empire.[4]
>P2 was sometimes referred to as a "state within a state"[5] or a "shadow government".[6] The lodge had among its members prominent journalists, members of parliament, industrialists, and military leaders—including Silvio Berlusconi, who later became Prime Minister of Italy; the Savoy pretender to the Italian throne Victor Emmanuel;[7] and the heads of all three Italian intelligence services (at the time SISDE, SISMI and CESIS).
>When searching Licio Gelli's villa in 1982, police found a document entitled "Plan for Democratic Rebirth", which called for a consolidation of the media, suppression of trade unions, and the rewriting of the Italian Constitution.[8]
>Outside Italy, P2 was also active in Uruguay, Brazil and Argentina. Among its Argentine members were Raúl Alberto Lastiri, interim president in 1973 during the height of the "Dirty War"; Emilio Massera, who was part of the military junta led by Jorge Rafael Videla from 1976 to 1978; José López Rega, minister 1973–1975 and founder of the Argentine Anticommunist Alliance; and General Guillermo Suárez Mason.[9]
Right there in Wikipedia. Continue thinking everything is "schizo","nonsense" and "fake news"

[Anonymous No.17494159]

>>17494007
Beat me to it.

[Anonymous No.17494180]

>>17493964
a goy ranch has nothing to do with "Jews". The psyop of "The Jewish Question" is a proxy to cover up the cryptocracy.

It's about ranching humans. That's all. And that Catholic Church is one of the oldest goy ranches of them all because they just co-opted something that was already popular with people and then gave the house niggers special little titles and fancy pants.

>>17493954
I have no clue at this point. I like Kierkegaard and some other random people.

>>17493979
Jesus was "jewish" in the ancient sense which is different from what JQers understand. Jesus was right about everything

[Anonymous No.17494192]

>>17493991
People oblivious to freemason involvement in history are low IQ at this point.

Freemasons were agents working on behalf of bankers and industrialists. It's how they organized and got things done. John Dee being one of the original agents

[Anonymous No.17494251]

>>17494180
I don't understand what you mean by goy ranch then. I think you mean that the spirit of lucifer has rotten your brain and therefore you label all kinds of authority other than liberal democracies as a "goy ranch". People like you in every traditional society around the world would have been stoned.

[Anonymous No.17494266]

>>17494251
>if you don't like tradLARPing then you're a liberal!!!!

take the rosary out of your ass and unmolest yourself. "Catholic Authority" and liberal democracy are the exact same thing dressed up differently. Retards screeching "RACISM" is the exact same thing as cathofags screeching "HERECY" 800 years ago

>People like you in every traditional society around the world would have been stoned
You'd be a drooling slave in every society like you are now

[Anonymous No.17494283]

>>17494266
Yeah bro everything is the same, just be free bro.

[Anonymous No.17494294]

>>17494283
Yes, everything is literally the same. Don't look at the rhetoric, look at the results. History is resetting to neo-feudalism under the aesthetic of late liberal democracy.

Don't worry, soon you'll own even less and be a serf to goy ranchers and phoenician aristocrats. Just like your wet tradpill daddy fantasies

[Anonymous No.17494297]

>>17485814
File that one in the index of divinely inspired BTFO’s. Holy Lmao