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This 1500+ page book is the single biggest redpill i've ever consumed and I HIGHLY recommend my /lit/ friends to check it out. I'll post a TLDR pic in the next post.
https://archive.org/details/MitchellHeismanSuicideNote

>> No.17589700
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>>17589693

>> No.17589759

>>17589693
My friend met him before he killed himself

>> No.17589772

>>17589759
that's pretty cool
I had never heard of him until someone on /pol/ posted about him a few days ago. It was such a good read that I read the whole thing in 2 days.

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>>17589693
Wallmart version of Philipp Mainländer.

>> No.17589780

>>17589775
>Philipp Mainländer
give us a quick rundown

>> No.17589794

>>17589780
>In his central work Die Philosophie der Erlösung (The Philosophy of Redemption or The Philosophy of Salvation) — according to Theodor Lessing, "perhaps the most radical system of pessimism known to philosophical literature" —] Mainländer proclaims that life is absolutely worthless, and that "the will, ignited by the knowledge that non-being is better than being, is the supreme principle of morality."
>...on the night on April 1, 1876, Mainländer hanged himself in his residence in Offenbach, using a pile of copies of The Philosophy of Redemption (which had arrived the previous day from his publisher) as a platform. He was thirty-four years old.

>> No.17589796

>>17589700
>hmmm, today I will make the biggest image with the most text and save it as a jpg

>> No.17589806

>>17589796
kek, sorry brah, I snagged it from the Archives and thought it was a pretty good rundown

>> No.17589824

Killing yourself won't make your mediocre work more profound.

>> No.17589851

>>17589693
>>17589700
tldr

>> No.17589891

>>17589772
Said he had wished he mentioned anglos to him

>> No.17589894

>>17589693
why should i read this before classical works, or even contemporary works, of well recognised literature? what is it about some no-namer who killed himself that should make me a better person, in mind body or spiirt?

not trolling, as I loved Kyle Odom's manifesto, but I need a solid reason before I read the work of a suicide smooth-brain.

>> No.17589897

>>17589894
The fact that he felt the need to die to prove his point

>> No.17589904

>>17589894
you should read him because it's a superior version of Decline of the West by Spengler.
>Kyle Odom's manifesto
kek and based

>> No.17589909

>>17589700
he sure hasn't read his Kant.

>> No.17589910

This so far appears to be very insightful and eloquent

>> No.17589923

It's noble that he an hero'd instead of chimping out and taking others with him.

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>>17589897
that alone is not enough. suicide is rarely the heroes way out
>>17589904
I'll give it a shot, but If i get to page 5 and it's ghey I'm giving up.

>> No.17589956

>>17589934
as Nietzsche said, a voluntary death after you've accomplished your goals is the best way to die.
Heisman is unironically ubermensch-pilled.
he quotes Nietzsche all the time in the book btw

>> No.17589959

Despite being an utter meme, I appreciated his take on anglo-saxon/Norman antagonism. Was far more interesting than it deserved to be

>> No.17589963

I wish a physical copy would get published.

>> No.17589964

>>17589956
Yeah this tbqh, dunno about heroic but it is noble

>> No.17589995

>>17589693
Imagine being so egotistical you expect strangers to read your 1500+ page suicide note.

>> No.17589996

>>17589910
This guy is explaining everything in his own words wtf

>> No.17589999

>>17589959
I agree, if we put on our Guenon/Evola goggles then we can interpret the English Civil War and the American Revolution as the revolt of the Anglo-Saxon Vaishya caste against the Norman Kshatriya caste.
is Loyalism the answer for us burgers?

>> No.17590001

>>17589693
>your son kills himself in public
>your only response is to get upset that he can’t help you move

>> No.17590010

Give me the tl;dr. Is he just squawking and crying and shitting his pants about how the world isn't how he wants it to be?

>> No.17590133

>>17589772
>I read the whole thing in 2 days
>1500 pages
>750 pages per day

even at a pace of 1 minute per page you'd have to read 12.5 hours each day to complete this you lying sack of shit

>> No.17590180

>>17590001
huh

>> No.17590189

>>17590133
ok you're right, it wasn't 2 days. I did it in one sitting over the course of 14 hours.

>> No.17590236

he makes a compelling case for Churchill > Hitler

>> No.17590251

>>17589700
Well that was a ride. It really takes off when he starts talking about Singularity. But I don't think the concluding portion of the Constitution of God follows coherently as a conclusion at least not in the summary form of this image. Maybe that was a contributing factor to his suicide that he couldn't figure out a compromise.

>> No.17590273

>>17589894
When you think about it when you only read what's popular, well regarded, the classics etc you're only reading thoughts picked out by the collective mind of our society which means they will be a very narrow band of information that only affirms the values, thoughts and beliefs we already hold.

>> No.17590284

>>17589999
Nice get

>> No.17590294

>>17590284
>>17589999
loyalism confirmed by digits
God save the Queen!!

>> No.17590302

>>17590180
Heisman’s mom’s reaction

>> No.17590318

>dude normans and anglo-saxons x100
very interesting...

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>>17590318
yes.

>> No.17590424

I saw a pretty brutal review of this which really framed the entire thing into the mindset he had behind his word-vomit and then his suicide. Made both seem pretty pathetic and disingenuous. Anyways, he filled it with chapters like “God is Technology” so no doubt many people here, the more spectrum inclined, will find this very very interesting, and very very serious, and you can be sure to see more people posting about it in the future with captions like “Still hasn’t been refuted.”

>> No.17590434

>>17589700
Literally incomprehensible schizobabble. You can tell from his haircut he has autism.

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>>17590424
>“Still hasn’t been refuted.”

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>> No.17590469

>>17590434
But it's not incomprehensible at all. There are some poorly founded premises or questionable conclusions but the terminology he's using is precisely chosen and the it's not difficult to understand his point of view either in part or in whole.

>> No.17590481

>>17590469
Well either way he’s burning in the lake of fire right now so...

>> No.17590548

>>17590481
>NOOO WOODY THE FIRE IT BURNS
>IT SHOULDVE BEEN BAPTIZED WOODY TOYS GO TO HELL

>> No.17590602

>>17590548
Type what you want, deep down you know

>> No.17590620

>>17590602
fuck off christcuck

>> No.17590813

>>17590434
Or maybe you’re just a brainlet

>> No.17591220

>>17589700
his description of the genesis of the cybergod would make really good scifi material.

>> No.17592024

>>17589700
Just gave it a quick read. I have no recollection of the man's written work and his suicide, but I might peruse the original text at a later date. There are some interesting points in there, at least partly influenced by Spengler—whose work I am decently familiar with. For instance, there is the biological-cultural distinction—here connected with memes; as well as the contrasts drawn between typical Anglo-Saxon and German modes of thought—it is perhaps worth mentioning that I hail from the former background, yet found Spengler's unequivocally Teutonic remarks on the matter quite insightful; additionally, there are some intriguing comparisons between Judaism and Christianity—quite reminiscent of Kevin B. MacDonald's controversial analysis, strangely enough. Moreover, a quick search engine enquiry yields various articles claiming that Heisman was Jewish and took his life on Yom Kippur. I cannot say how this affected his fateful decision at this moment, but I have the impression that his sense of identity was incredibly conflicted; perhaps not unlike Otto Weininger. Furthermore, there are at least a few points in the overview which depart from my own understanding. There seems to be much emphasis on hostility between the old Normans and Anglo-Saxons, though it is mentioned how the lines became increasingly blurred. The element of class divison is, I feel, undoubtedly correct; however, the role of geography in shaping historical consciousness appears to have gone unnoticed. I cannot yet say what the original work delineates, of course. Lastly, the use of the word God in describing hypothetical advanced AI clearly differs from Spengler's assertion that technology has often been viewed as far more devilish—although, perhaps the sentiment is still there. Certainly an unusual story, however... it is worth bearing in mind that one point of view may not hold all the answers, and that occasional reflection can be beneficial.

>> No.17592073

>>17592024
great analysis
>Otto Weininger
that's the first person who came to mind for me as well.
>Spengler
Heisman seemed to understand the Jewish and Anglo/Norman dilemma much better than Spengler. His theory of Anglo/Jewish convergence I think was spot on.

>> No.17592126

>>17589780
>read philosophy
>realise being alive is bad
>kill self

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>>17592126
interesting, I think Heisman and Mishima have the superior attitude towards death

>> No.17592145

>>17590273
Our society shuns the classics though.

>> No.17592170

>>17589693
I heard about this guy because he graduated from the same school as me so because of that I'll check it out, but it this is just 2,000 pages of >DA JOOOZ
I will be very upset.

>> No.17592187

>>17590302
Interesting.

>> No.17592606

>>17590435
what a strange-looking guy

>> No.17592877

>>17589796
>>17589806
Is there a PNG version of it?

>> No.17592902

>>17592877
https://www.scribd.com/document/198985140/Mitchell-Heisman-s-suicide-note-overview
https://twitter.com/bakewitewespek/status/1224826433626763265

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>>17589700
https://pdfcoffee.com/mitchell-heismanx27s-suicide-note-overview-pdf-free.html
https://www.scribd.com/document/198985140/Mitchell-Heisman-s-suicide-note-overview

>> No.17593060

Read 200 pages before I stopped.
He promised a "socio-biologic" view on human behavior and society but doesn't quote a single biologist except for Dawkins (I checked) because Heisman, for some reason, keeps babbling about how "The God delusion" and Dawkins is wrong because "God could have been created by evolution".
Then he keeps writing about how great the Jews are ("if you take a pyramid (triangle) and superimpose another pyramid upside-down upon it you get the star of David" *mindblow.jpg*)

If the rest of the book is anything like the intro it's a fukken waste of time. I even wanted to get hold of a paper version of it, but needless to say I'm glad I didn't.

>> No.17593069

>>17593060
skip to page 1500-1600 range. he talks in depth about the biological side, particularly nazi/hitlerian biological worldview
he hits it on the head

>> No.17593106

>>17593060
He also starts by writing about how the book will be "suppressed" by the media/elite because it's
just SO DANGEROUS

>> No.17593135

>>17593106
it's too early to tell

>> No.17593215

>>17593069
Can't find any relevant "nazi thinkers" (nor akin thinkers) in the selected bibliography, does he reference these elsewhere in the text?

>>17593135
if you want books that are about to be suppressed this was suggested here a couple of months back https://1lib.eu/book/5301791/bbe31c

>> No.17593232

>>17593215
he probably has over hundred pages dedicated to Hitler. I told you where to look in the book

thanks, i'll check out that book

>> No.17593453

>>17589794
I'm cooming, man.
I thought Cioran was the apotheosis.
There are higher rites of pessimism?
Fuck yeah! Downloading now.

>> No.17593656

>>17590435
>>“Still hasn’t been refuted.”
I refute him
what now?

>> No.17593903

>>17590189
poser

>> No.17593912

>>17590273
You mean picked out by retards.

>> No.17593928

>>17589693
Someone who kills himself already failed one of the basic goals of every lifeform on this planet -> to beat natural selection and reproduce yourself.

>> No.17593935

>>17593903
no u

>> No.17593989

>>17589700
Interesting. But I don't think the Jew knew about 9/11.

>> No.17594026

Tl;dr lol

>>17589700
Also tl;dr lol

>> No.17594034

It's a rant against the modern world. He killed himself, after all.

This kind of thinking starts with Nietzsche and it seems like only Nietzsche knew what to do with it.

This line of thinking goes that the modern world has so corrupted human nature that we no longer or barely have a nature anymore. Nietzsche saw this as an opportunity to do whatever the fuck you wanted. These suicide idiots see this as a dead end.

Sure, I like that they're trying to come up with something, outlining the problems of modernity, but shit, even the Amish and the Islamic State do that. At least those kind of pre-modern (post-modern?) movements have an answer of sorts even if it is kind of retarded. Killing yourself because the machine has subsumed you is stupid as all hell.

>> No.17594049

>>17590424
Are you referring to the review by his roommate in Boston who argued that life is worth living etc?

>> No.17594130

>>17592024
Being familiar with Toynbee and Spengler, would reading this convey any profound insight?

>> No.17594357

>>17590133
I don't believe the anon read is that fast either, since it's a terrible read, but have you never read for an entire day before? Seems like every month or two I'll have a day where I read a single book from dawn til dusk and bust out 700-800 pages because I get too engrossed

>> No.17594371

>>17591220
just play Deus Ex

>> No.17594402

>>17594034
I don't know that Nietzsche really new what to do with it

I don't mean to be all 'dude weed' but I wonder if these people have ever taken LSD. I tripped on it once but what I experienced on it made it so I could never fall into such a despair spiral. It is sad seeing big brains get caught up in their own schematics.

>> No.17594444

>Whole worldview refuted by Plato in Phaedo Dialogue
He, nothing personal kid.

>> No.17594470

>>17594049
where could i find this?

>> No.17594471

>>17594357
I was fucking around about the two days thing, it was a full week. just bullshitting, didn't think you fags would catch on

>> No.17594477

>>17589794
this reads like a joke post

>>17590469
>There are some poorly founded premises or questionable conclusions

which merits throwing the whole thing out. the problem with "philosophy today", is that it appears more impressed with its erudition than any solidly built epistemology. in other words, another degradation towards sophistry.

>> No.17594544

>>17589772
You should go back there then.

>> No.17594670

>>17594544
>t. tranny

>> No.17594690

>>17594470
I think it was one of the top-rated comments on Goodreads a while back, when I first came across Suicide Note. The guy lived with him in Boston and I think they both held regular jobs (Mitchell worked part-time in a bookstore, and had a large inheritance due to his father having died during Mitchell's teens).

>> No.17594703

>>17589693
I heard he killed himself.

>> No.17594710

>>17589794
So older, less cool Weininger?

>> No.17594741

>>17589693
Imagine writing 1500 pages of "Life has no meaning because we're all inevitably going to die so who cares if we die now instead of later?" No shit nigga.

>> No.17594848

>>17594741
P S E U D

>> No.17594876

>>17589693
Where's the evidence?

>> No.17594881

he was such a academic drone that he felt the need to do a thesis on killing himself

>> No.17594947

>>17594881
there's a compelling argument that killing yourself makes your content more marketable rather than pulling a Dylan Roof, Brenton Tarrant, Anders Breivik.
Speaking of which, Breivik's manifesto was long af too. Has anyone read it?

>> No.17595899

>>17594477
>which merits throwing the whole thing out. the problem with "philosophy today", is that it appears more impressed with its erudition than any solidly built epistemology. in other words, another degradation towards sophistry.
I wasn't talking about philosophy and it's not a philosophical tract. I mean his premises about history like the Norman Invasion, I don't know enough about that to say for sure whether they're soundly founded. I should have said "there may be" instead of "there are" but you didn't attempt to read this if you think it's about epistemology, and you sound like a pseud.