/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17688695]

The thread to end all recent JBP bait threads. I want /lit/'s final verdict on this. A benzo-addled charlatan's money grab or a worthwhile read? Choose, now.

[Anonymous No.17688723]

>>17688695
There's a Jordan Peterson in my voice that yells at me to write androgyne snuff fiction. The voice sounds like Kermit the Frog going "PENIS! PENIS! RAPE!"

Pic related is all I've got so far. Thinking of making it into a book. In the opening of it, I'm going to credit the good doctor for his inspiration.

[Anonymous No.17688760]

>>17688723
skimmed through a few paragraph, what a heap of trite
I suggest you rethink your whole existence

[Anonymous No.17688768]

>>17688695
Its just common sense advice. The fact that this is so popular either proves that the majority of people are mentally impaired or that people only care about aesthetics

[Anonymous No.17688786]

Can someone explain why this guy lives rent free in peoples heads? Why waste so much time on someone you disagree with? Can someone summarize his ideas if they are so triggering?

[Anonymous No.17688798]

>>17688760
Thank you. I'll try to work on that.

[Anonymous No.17688815]

>>17688786
it's either stormfags complaining about gatekeeping potential radicals from radicalizing, bunkercucks crying that he talks about the soviet and maoist atrocities (they are also responsible for all the "lol solzhenitsyn is lying" threads) and unironic twittertrannies who have it out for JBP because he dared complain about compelled speech presented via the tranny trojan horse and generally big media outlets told xerm to hate him
dude is very reasonable in most of the things he says, with only a few stances being potentially controversial. I can understand disagreeing with him, but outright hating the guy is retarded

[Anonymous No.17688878]

>>17688695
Just read MoM

[Anonymous No.17688919]

>>17688815
this

[Blarty Hongo !H0lVGXJNm6 No.17688929]

>>17688695
It's probably deeply flawed but also worth reading, like the first book.

[Anonymous No.17688936]

>>17688815
I don't hate him for his beliefs he's just retarded

[Anonymous No.17688938]

>>17688695
A benzo-addled charlatan's money grab is worth reading just from a standpoint of pure cynicism. It's like performance art.

[Anonymous No.17688970]

i skimmed some of the audiobook, the opening benzos confessional/excuses section was wack, but i skipped like 2/3rds in and there a part where he's talking about art and how every person is an artist in their dreams etc. pretty sure that's from birth of tragedy but he did not credit nietzsche as far as i can remember, but he did a good take down of political art which is worth considering that he probably lifted from someone else too

[Anonymous No.17688973]

>>17688936
Is his beliefs retarded cause they contradict each other? Is he spouting ideas he does not understand? Is his ideas a strictly worse subset of other ideas? I'm curious, seems like most of the hate stems from him not following his own advice but I'm not sure that would warrant the reactions I have read online.

[Anonymous No.17689030]

>mfw he said a therapist gave him ketamine and it sent him straight to hell

[Anonymous No.17689031]

I just came up with something deep while listening to Peterson in relation to psychedelics - when you take psychedelics, you think you're looking through a window, but it's a mirror.

Well, /lit/?

[Anonymous No.17689077]

>>17689031
have you ever done psychedelics? doesn't sound like it.

[Anonymous No.17689089]

>>17689077
I have. But it's also a great way to define human subjective experience, particularly of the emotional, interpersonal and social kind.

[Anonymous No.17689109]

>>17688938
Based

[Anonymous No.17689114]

>>17689089
it was always obvious to me the stuff i was seeing was bubbling up from my subconscious not coming from some other dimension or whatever weird shit these joe rogan guys think

[Anonymous No.17689121]

>>17688695
Reading the into, holy shit he was even deeper into drugs than I originally thought. This is just a small section of two pages of woes.


"By this time, the akathisia (the disorder of uncontrollable movement alluded to earlier) had increased to the point where I could not sit or rest in any position for any length of time whatsoever without severe distress. In December I checked in to a local hospital, and it was at that point that my awareness of events prior to my awakening in Moscow ends. As I later learned, Mikhaila and Andrey removed me from the Toronto hospital in early January 2020, believing that the treatment I received there was doing me more harm than good (an opinion I concurred with entirely once I learned of it).
The situation I found myself in upon reattaining consciousness in Russia was complicated by the fact that I had also developed double pneumonia in Canada, although that was neither discovered nor treated until I was in the Moscow ICU."

[Anonymous No.17689126]

>>17689114
Agreed. Only true take

[Anonymous No.17689136]

>>17689121
christ, poor guy

[Anonymous No.17689156]

"In Florida, I attempted to wean off the medication prescribed by the Moscow clinic, although I was still experiencing numbness in my left hand and foot, trembling of those two extremities as well as the muscles in my forehead, seizure activity, and crippling anxiety. All these symptoms increased quite markedly as my intake of medication decreased, reaching the point where about two months later I returned to the dosages initially prescribed in Russia. This was a material defeat, as the process of lessening their use had been fueled by an optimism that was consequently shattered, as well as returning me to a state of medication usage that I had paid a heavy price for trying to eliminate. I had family members and friends stay with me during this time, thankfully, and their company helped me stay motivated to continue while the symptoms I was experiencing grew unbearable, particularly in the morning.
By the end of May, three months after leaving Russia, it had become obvious that I was worsening instead of improving, and relying on the people I loved and who reciprocated that emotion was both untenable and unfair. Mikhaila and Andrey had been in touch with a Serbian clinic that practiced a novel approach to the problem of benzodiazepine withdrawal, and they made arrangements to move me there, only two days after that country had reopened after the pandemic closure."

[Anonymous No.17689188]

hes a hack loser

[Anonymous No.17689235]

>>17688768
Humans need a constant reminder to do good or they will degenerate. That’s why “read your scriptures and go to church” is so important and effective. It’s also why consistently filling your mind with knowledge is so critical. Common sense needs to be nurtured and JPs books are great for that. Plus he has better insights than 99.9% of this board so you would do well to stop being a pretentious degen and read his work.

[Anonymous No.17689242]

>>17688786
He’s a based human being with great ideas. I have no clue why this board or 4chan of all places hates in this guy. Makes me see just how degenerate this place actually is

[Anonymous No.17689250]

Everything he says is maliciously retarded. He's a boomer apologist blaming all the problems and lack of parenting millenials inherited on millennials themselves. He's cracking the whip of stoicism and telling people in an obviously failed system to buck up and keep shoring it up when it only ever hurts them more. He's a Christian dominionist pretending to be an American nationalist. And he dresses all that poison up in charisma and 2-bit self help platitudes.

>>17689031
>i thought of something while I was taking drugs! is it deep?
No.

[Anonymous No.17689252]

>>17688815
Based and reason-pilled

[Anonymous No.17689278]

>>17689235
>Humans need a constant reminder to do good
Only nonwhites need that. For white people it's the opposite- we will naturally do good unless we're in an environment literally constructed to reinforce doing bad- which we are currently in. And instead of wanting to deconstruct that environment, you just want to cash that in for more political and social control for the Church.

[Anonymous No.17689326]

>>17688695

The dude is a good person, he tried to operate in a way he believed he was good, was pushed out of his strict sphere of competence against his will, tried to do his best but he could not go against the tide and life got him.

Both people demonizing and idolizing him are wrong and are the reason the guy had, amongst other things, a massive breakdown.

He is the modern manifesto of the human condition, both bad and good, take it for what you want.

[Anonymous No.17689989]

>>17688815
/thread

[Anonymous No.17690059]

>>17689278
>we will naturally do good unless we're in an environment literally constructed to reinforce doing bad
In an environment created by whites, hmmm

[Anonymous No.17690070]

>>17688695
nobody would follow him if not for mass single motherhood in the western world

[Anonymous No.17690095]

>>17689326
lol, his entire narrative since 2016 has been written by glowies, without a doubt

[Anonymous No.17690118]

everyone itt: Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam in thy own eye, and then shalt thou see to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

[Anonymous No.17690129]

>>17689031
No not really

[Anonymous No.17690143]

>>17688936
How? Use your words

[Anonymous No.17690149]

>>17689114
can you achieve this sublimity without ingesting any metabolites? i'm mormon and god says no

[Anonymous No.17690150]

>>17689235
>common sense needs to be nurtured
No it fucking doesn't. Maybe if you are legitimately brain dead. Which Peterson readers must be.

[Anonymous No.17690185]

>>17689326
Lol perhaps you can attribute him good intentions, but nothing he did was "against his will." Was he forced to go on world lecture tours and pop pills while his wife had cancer? He held himself up as the wise man but was a weak and greedy knave.

[Anonymous No.17690267]

>>17688815
>bunkercucks
That's a strangely satisfying term

[Anonymous No.17690366]

>>17689250
>He's a Christian dominionist pretending to be an American nationalist.
I agree that he sounds like a preacher sometimes but if you call him an American nationalist you're clearly talking out of your ass.

[Anonymous No.17690373]

Anti-Peterson fags are almost always just legit brainlets that can't or won't engage with what he's talking about.

>everything he says is common sense
No, the reason why he is so popular is because he engages with topics that everyone already knows about, almost on a cliche level, but with a certain fresh perspective and justification. "You should clean your room" - oh well, everyone including your grandma knows that's true, but not everyone gives you a Jungian take about it being an extension of your own psyche, as well as a larger metaphor about levels of responsibility and how you should take care of your immediate surroundings before trying to take down capitalism, bucko.

>everything he says is non-sense, it doesn't even mean anything
Obviously brainlets that can't follow along or just people that can't get into abstract thinking and take everything literally, the "I love science" crowd that takes JBP's lobster example and claims the guy is saying that we can model human behavior with crustaceans. They miss the forest from the trees and get hung up on small details.

>he's a sexist transphobic fascist neo-nazi dog whistler
Ideologically possessed brainlets that can only see reality from a small frame of reference and continually relate everything to some narrow victim narrative. JBP did a good job dismantling these people but every time he opens his mouth is another opportunity for these people to confirm their own sick perceptions.

>he's a grifter / drug addict / his daughter is a thot / his wife is ugly
Shitty character attacks that don't actually engage with his thoughts. Although, I agree he sold out when he wrote that milquetoast self-help book, his earlier lectures and interviews are worth listening to and separating the content from his personal life.

>he won't talk about nigger IQ / jewish question
It's bad optics. He did more for the right by advocating for young people to take up responsibility and think about the concept of God, than he could have done by showing a bunch of graphs and naming the jew.

[Anonymous No.17690404]

>>17690373
>It's bad optics.
He practically did anyway by reviving Solzhenitsyn.
The people saying "commit career suicide or you're a fraud" are either pied pipers or idiots.

[Anonymous No.17690429]

>>17690185

Eh, I see your point but I can't totally agree, there's distinction between doing things "against one own will" and being coerced, ie forced to.

>>17690095

Dunno, can you give proofs about that?

I'm not his fan anyway, I don't find him revolutionary or whatelse, just a bit of novelty.

[Anonymous No.17690437]

>>17690373
How about this as a complaint? He pretends to be against the materialist nature of modern society, yet every single thing he talks about is through a lense of materialism.
He can't even attempt to discuss metaphysics without reducing it to the psychological.

[Anonymous No.17690441]

>>17689278
Of course, you live in a white country retard

[Anonymous No.17690459]

>>17688723

[Anonymous No.17690461]

>>17690150
Take a glance out the window and you will know that I cannot be refuted

[Anonymous No.17690463]

What're the 12 new commandments we've been give?

[Anonymous No.17690468]

>>17690463
>we've been give
*we've been given

[Anonymous No.17690469]

>>17688815
Honestly none of those things, I hate him because he's a cringe meme "philosopher" for normies.

[Anonymous No.17690473]

>>17690463
an inversion of the previous 12 rules
>dirty your room welcome the chaos
>rub your penis in the dirt
etc etc

[Anonymous No.17690481]

>>17688695
A midwit that thought he was important b/c a yt algorithm, and because he's 'smart' compared to his very average psychology undergraduate students who btw he sometimes sexually assaulted.

Now he just reflects of weak psychology is as a field (more than worthless).

Read Marx

[Anonymous No.17690490]

>>17688695
What does it say about rug making? How do you make the autists buy the rugs?

[Anonymous No.17690559]

>>17688695

“I dreamed I saw my maternal grandmother sitting by the bank of a swimming pool, that was also a river. In real life, she had been a victim of Alzheimer’s disease, and had regressed, before her death, to a semi-conscious state. In the dream, as well, she had lost her capacity for self-control. Her genital region was exposed, dimly; it had the appearance of a thick mat of hair. She was stroking herself, absent-mindedly. She walked over to me, with a handful of pubic hair, compacted into something resembling a large artist’s paint-brush. She pushed this at my face. I raised my arm, several times, to deflect her hand; finally, unwilling to hurt her, or interfere with her any farther, I let her have her way. She stroked my face with the brush, gently, and said, like a child, “isn’t it soft?” I looked at her ruined face and said, “yes, Grandma, it’s soft.”

[Anonymous No.17690585]

>>17688695
>christian
>idolizes nietzsche and jung
sure bud

[Anonymous No.17690596]

>>17690585
He believes in Petersonism. The first commandment is to wash your penis.

[Anonymous No.17690601]

>>17690481
Read Evola

[Anonymous No.17690630]

>>17690481
>Now he just reflects of weak psychology is as a field (more than worthless).
>implying your kike didn't also pioneer a bunch of unfalsifiable gooblygook

[Anonymous No.17690641]

>>17688936
Let me guess he "totally doesn't get Marxism and post modernism" meaning he doesn't have the exact same views on them as you.

[Anonymous No.17690661]

>>17688768
>Its just common sense advice
You'd be surprised how much common sense is needed in this day and age. I believe the reason it's so popular is because so many young men in society have been neglected and need that father figure to remind them that they actually can make something of themselves instead of wallowing in self pity and addiction like many of the people around them.

[Anonymous No.17690679]

>>17690641
It would literally kill Peterson if he read even Kapital volume 1. He'd realize what a fool he has been.

[Anonymous No.17690689]

>>17690661
>You'd be surprised how much common sense is needed in this day and age.
Case in point: >>17690679

[Anonymous No.17690714]

>>17690679
To be fair, a lot of people who talk about Marx -- for and against -- have either never read him or misunderstand him greatly; the latter usually done through a filter (for or against, let's be honest).

[Anonymous No.17690719]

>>17688815
This post is spot on. The man gives rational advice, is rather humble with his opinions, and genuinely tries to understand the people he is engaging with. He's not perfect, but he never claims to be so. People really gotta stop letting their emotions put them into a blind rage.

[Anonymous No.17690745]

Anybody know a good place for book/audiobook piracy?

Feel like I wanna give it a listen before I buy.

[Anonymous No.17690775]

>>17689121
>>17689156
Benzos are no joke. I understand they have their uses and sometimes they're the best option available, but the withdrawal can literally kill you if you quit cold turkey or there are other complications. I remember him and his daughter have some interesting condition, that I don't think they ever gotten to the bottom of. They say it's some kind of autoimmune disorder, but I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up being some kind of connective tissue disorder (fragile joints, autonomic issues, sometimes even weird allergy like symptoms[common co-morbidity with mast cell activation syndrome]) that the shitty Canadian medical system never checked for. Regardless of the source of his disorder, I suspect it greatly complicated his withdrawal.

[Anonymous No.17690784]

>>17690714
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Marx and Engels. The critique is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of Hegelian idealism most of the critiques will go over a typical reader's head. There's also Marx's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his writing- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Enlightenment literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these critiques, to realise that they're not just ideology- they say something deep about CAPITAL. As a consequence people who dislike Marx & Engels truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Marx's humanist catchphrase "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" which itself is a cryptic reference to the Critique of the Gotha Program. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Marx's genius wit unfolds itself on their pages. What fools.. how I pity them.

[Anonymous No.17690797]

>>17689278
This post is complete bullshit. The reinforcement of values is part of building a healthy environment. If those values aren't enforced, things start going Lord of the Flies within a couple generations. This is the case for every race. It took us millennia to get to the complexity of modern society. Millennia of values passed on and improved by each generation. That is the environment crafted for us that allows us to keep moving forward. This isn't some racial issue, this is across the board.

[Anonymous No.17690816]

>>17690185
Him being pushed out was against his will. Google the man's name. Tell if what you immediately see is anything close to accurate. The guy has been wrongly demonized.

[Anonymous No.17690838]

>>17690437
What aspect of metaphysics doesn't involve some relation to your psyche?

[Anonymous No.17690897]

Anyone who says Jordan Peterson is not a smart guy is probably a 20 year old something living with his parents and spends all day on the computer jerking off to cartoons and listening to emo cringy music.

Jordan Peterson at age 25 was twice the man you will ever be. And at 50 he is quadruple of a human you will ever be.

Jordan Peterson is saving countless lives around the globe with his book and is the only champion of free speech.

Fuck anyone who says Peterson is not a goddamn God.

I would take a bullet for Peterson

[Anonymous No.17690917]

>>17690897
false flag cringe post

[Anonymous No.17690959]

>>17690585
>be jung
>write a dozen books about how people should be like Jesus
>retard online says you aren't christian

[Anonymous No.17691009]

>>17690897
this but without a shred of ironic

[Anonymous No.17691031]

>>17690838
He reduces it all to processes of the mind

[Anonymous No.17691047]

>>17690897
Subtle

[Anonymous No.17691127]

>>17691031
I don't see how this is a problem, especially since he's dealing in psychology. What exactly about metaphysics do you feel he is neglecting?

[Anonymous No.17691137]

>>17688695
>or a worthwhile read?
The first self-help book was mostly uninteresting and unconvincing garbage. There's no way the sequel will somehow be worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.17691140]

>>17691137
>unconvincing
So can you elaborate on anything you found unconvincing?

[Anonymous No.17691148]

>>17690897
MY DAD WOULD KICK YOUR DAD'S FUCKING ASS

[Anonymous No.17691152]

>>17688973
>Do his ideas contradict each other?
Two of his first twelve rules do in fact contradict one another.
>Is he spouting ideas he does not understand?
Incessantly.
>Are his ideas a strictly worse subset of other ideas?
Can ideas be pulled away from delivery? If not, then his writing is demonstrably worse than that of others working with the same ideas. If so, then perhaps not worse in every arena, but strikingly less effective.

[Anonymous No.17691156]

>>17689089
So great it's been used to the point of cliche.

[Anonymous No.17691179]

>>17691127
>I don't see how this is a problem
Perhaps that's a sign that you should read up on metaphysics.

[Anonymous No.17691190]

>>17691179
There's the physics of the universe (quantum mechanics, general relativity), our consciousness emerging from complex chemistry/electromagnetics, and a memetic/social layer that emerges from our interacting consciousnesses. What do you feel is missing?

[Anonymous No.17691193]

>>17691140
I found his arguments in chapters 1 through 12 unconvincing, despite the rules they seek to substantiate being banalities.

[Anonymous No.17691195]

>>17691190
>What do you feel is missing?
The homework you should be doing.

[Anonymous No.17691196]

>>17691193
So you've got jack shit and are baiting for (You)s.

[Anonymous No.17691225]

>>17691196
Nah, I've got the book next to me and could write on its rhetorical deficiencies for hours, but sustained discourse on writerly topics is not what this thread, nor this board, is about.

[Anonymous No.17691229]

>>17691127
My point being he shits on post modern neo Marxist materialists while himself being a materialist who thinks everything is a process of the mind. Reducing what isn't physical to being just a result of the physical. Conciousness not being 'discovered' as being material by scientists doesn't change anything

[Anonymous No.17691230]

>>17691225
Give me a single example. Any one of your choosing.

[Anonymous No.17691233]

>>17691190
Your brain captures conciousness it doesn't create it

[Anonymous No.17691254]

>>17691229
>who thinks everything is a process of the mind
I think it's more along the lines of everything that you are able to control are the processes of your mind. You don't control all of it, after all you've got your evolutionary instincts that kept your family tree alive long enough to pop you out into the world. And if you are gonna have any chance of having an impact on the wider world, you're gonna have to come to grips with those processes and understand how to work with them.

[Anonymous No.17691260]

>>17691230
Yeah I want to hear this too. The problem with Memerson isn't that he's "wrong" about anything, really. It's just that he doesn't go far enough. He always acts like he's going to give you some grand reveal, then ends up just providing some moderately interesting tidbit.

[Anonymous No.17691308]

>>17688815
one of the best beterson posts on this board in years

[Anonymous No.17691592]

>>17690784
kek

[Anonymous No.17691833]

>>17688695
implying you basedboys dont worship drug addicts

[Anonymous No.17691999]

>>17690775
Schizophrenic, paranoid, hallucinations, possibly bi polar. Possibly a year in a manic episode and he's come down now. He said he used to like to work 16 hour days, while not only done by manics, other symptoms he has make it more likely.

He is constantly crying over things like movies or basic questions - he's not the first dude to do a basic bitch speaking tour but he's the first to sob about the response.

Clinical psychology is a fairly easy field to get a job in all his beloved advice is councillor basic shit, and all his politics are unintelligible, standard conservative talking points, or deeply ignorant.

He saves far fewer lives than average therapists do collectively

[Anonymous No.17692175]

>>17688973
His beliefs are retarded how he attempts to defend pre-modern worldviews and criticize modernity using modern tools. Defending christianity from the perspective of evolutionary psychology and pragmatism doesn't fucking work and that should be obvious to anyone.

[Anonymous No.17692195]

>>17688936
>multi millionaire
>multiple post grad degrees
>author and celebrity

yea he sounds retarded dude. definitely the worthless pos who makes ad hominems on 4chan is much smarter : )

[Anonymous No.17692204]

>Psychologist
>Not a charlatan
Pick one.

[Anonymous No.17692213]

>>17688723
not trying to be a dick but this sucks donkey nuts. all of your excessive imagery is extremely cliche

[Anonymous No.17692283]

Peterson is an inctedible speaker, but a terrible writer.

[Anonymous No.17692436]

>>17690481
>who btw he sometimes sexually assaulted
funny, if the commies main weapon was to accuse people they didn't like of subverting the regime, modern neolib stooges and chapotrannies just accuse you of raping someone at some point
Eat shit and go back to your little discord circlejerk

[Anonymous No.17692477]

>>17689114
A lot of individuals (that are more achieved than you will ever be) mention psychedelics as the agents of their success

[Anonymous No.17692486]

>>17688695

some faggot who couldn't even help himself is giving people advice

[Anonymous No.17692508]

>>17692283
Peterson is a terrible speaker.

[Anonymous No.17692515]

>>17690641
I already said I don't care about his politics.

[Anonymous No.17692620]

"fuck im hooked on benzos because I drank apple cider! Here's my self help book. Fuck off wanker.

[Anonymous No.17692623]

>>17692508
objectively untrue

[Anonymous No.17692745]

>>17690775
I know about a doctor (a doctor who does routine physical checkups and tests for patients, not a psychiatrist) who got on benzos for anxiety and ended up with a terrible reaction. Idk if it was akathisia. But the withdrawal gave him terrible seizures and crippled him, and years later he's still not able to work.

[Anonymous No.17692754]

>>17688815
>

[Anonymous No.17692762]

>>17688695
Based on Jordan Petersons book I created my very own 12 rules for life:

1. Suck a black dick and then tweet about it relentlessly.
2. Twerk in front of the mirror and observe yourself consciously.
3. Take benzos and travel to Russia repeatedly.
4. Manage a cat in your household and lick her belly.
5. Overcome an impeding sense of doom.
6. Life in a slum for a week and post a video about it on youtube.
7. Create a Patreon and send me your money.
8. Eat a lobster and a steak.
9. Put coconut oil on your forhead retardedly.
10. Smash my daughter's pussy brutally.
11. Abandon ideology and buy my books.
12. Install Gentoo Linux, delete it and install Windows 10 instead.

[Anonymous No.17692772]

>>17689278
>white people are uniquely naturally good
No, anon. You are just uniquely and necessarily retarded

[Anonymous No.17692804]

>normie tier
jordan peterson
>a little more in depth
jonathan pageau
>start needing more preparation here
seraphim rose
>dont mess with this guy unless you mean it
spyridon bailey

[Anonymous No.17692878]

>>17692762
Come on if you could do all that and be a famous multimillionaire cult leader, you would too.

[Anonymous No.17692985]

>>17690481

Only based reply, don't give snake oil salesmen the time of day.

[Anonymous No.17693059]

>>17692762
>american
>immediatly talks about nigger dick
жaлкий

[Anonymous No.17693214]

>>17688815
/threadpilled

[Anonymous No.17693230]

>>17689278
>>17689278
>Admitting living in a society rife with degeneracy so people actually need to be reminded to not stray
>This book as the tool for church to control the mass

Hows life in israel rabbi yehuda?

[Anonymous No.17693324]

>>17688815
this

[Anonymous No.17693382]

>>17688723
Your writing is shit. Why are you using present tense verbs? Is it because you're retarded?

>>17688815
Jordan Peterson is an anti-white drug addict. Fuck that (white) nigger, and his whore daughter too

[Anonymous No.17693401]

>>17689031
>something deep
This is what passes as deep for petersonfaggots

[Anonymous No.17694108]

>>17691999
Nice trips
>He saves far fewer lives than average therapists do collectively
gr8 b8 i r8 8/8 bit ir8

[Anonymous No.17694381]

>>17688815
Based

[Anonymous No.17694452]

>>17688815
worst post itt

[Anonymous No.17694458]

>>17688695
He have this thing of mixes nitche and christ, kinda weird.

but his 12 rules book help me allot, and I just think its great book. and ofc I already orders the new one.

try yourself and make your own opinion,
do not listening to lefty fags nor fascist fags who hate Peterson for being reasonable

[Anonymous No.17694526]

>>17694458
obvious bait, no one is this retarded

[Anonymous No.17694562]

>>17694526
Can you be more articulate ?

[Anonymous No.17694576]

>>17688723
Skimmed the first few pages. There's no question that you can write (ignore all the other fag anons telling you you cant), but you need to seriously tone down the florid imagery. It's not adding much to your story, and it is full of (seemingly unintentional) cliches.

As you go through to edit, ask yourself 'why do I need this' here: everything that you are writing - even the asides of aesthetic contemplation - should have a purpose and should contribute to building your story. There is a place for the languid and over-descriptive prose, but if your work is entirely suffused with it it very quickly loses any power and turns into a comedy of overwrought writing.

I hope you keep at it anon; but just remember to always make sure your descriptions are contributing to your story and aren't just there for themselves.

[Anonymous No.17694699]

>>17688815
My nigga
/thread

[Anonymous No.17695432]

>>17690373
>he won't talk about nigger IQ / jewish question
um what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h02w5E7FGlY&t=289s

[Anonymous No.17696827]

JP is a phony grifter who didn't say anything while the whole Kavanaugh thing was going on even though that was around his peak influence time. His daughter is the way she is because he clearly cared more about his own life and going on tours permanently then taking care of her. Some of his lectures on other people are great, his own views are meh. He's also associated with some Jews or whatever I can't remember everything

[Anonymous No.17697395]

>>17690745
Myanonamouse

[Anonymous No.17697898]

>>17690437
Are you confusing capitalist materialism with metaphysical materialism (aka physicalism) ?
Jeez, this board, I swear.

[Anonymous No.17697906]

juden peterstein

[Anonymous No.17698128]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWXxlYzBCno

[Anonymous No.17698167]

>>17693214
slightly unrealated, but i dont quite get this mene when there was humanoid angels in the old testament too.

[Anonymous No.17698174]

>>17688815
wtf, how is it possible to have a reasonable post like this?

[Anonymous No.17698185]

>>17688815
Fuck off back to re$dit

[Anonymous No.17699068]

>>17688695
Im going to speak up for myself here , The first book really helped me overcome a really tough time in my life. His profession as an excellent well read psychologist is undoubted. And he uncovered some psychological traps Ive been putting myself into for a long period of time . That they actually affected how my brain works and interacts with new experiences. Once I actually stopped putting myself into these recursive detremental habits my life actually got better. I just despise how politicized he made himself and how he tries desperatley to fit himself into the philosophical domain which he fails miserably.

[Anonymous No.17699367]

>>17695432
>ethnic differences? well, I can't talk about that...i mean, you can't even define race, scientifically speaking...
>the jews? well of course they're over-represented at positions of authority and power...they're really competent and high IQ!

He talks a big game about IQ, but he doesn't own any of the real implications of it. Even if his clever misdirection about JQ is what he actually believes, the obvious implication then is that black people are under-represented because of their low IQ and low competency.

Anyway, take a look at this famous dodge. He can't even bullshit an answer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbZZyVyEHGo

[Anonymous No.17699702]

>>17699367
I have a somewhat schizo theory about the IQ question but it doesn't have to do with biology in the way most people think of it

[Anonymous No.17700727]

>>17699702
Sure, let's hear it

[Anonymous No.17700915]

>>17698128

lel

[Anonymous No.17701126]

>>17698128
unironic pretentious trash
rethink your life if you think this is "deep"

[Anonymous No.17701131]

>>17688695
I don't buy self-help books from people who OD on benzos after their all-meat diet and spend 6 months in a coma in Russia. Or from anyone, actually.

[Anonymous No.17701151]

Isn't this the dude who got his cheeks absolutely clapped by Zizek?

[Anonymous No.17701153]

>>17688815
Eh, I always found him annoying because there are a lot of over the top scary degree cultists of his where I live. All of them without fail are out of shape Protestant white guys who got talked out of Christianity by new atheist YouTube clip compilations. So I knew he had to suck for those kind of potbellied lemmings to worship him. What really baffled me was when I would see clips of him hysterically claiming to have almost died in various ways that reads like a hypochondriac addicted to attention, to the point where when I heard he was addicted to Benzos I wondered if it was just another larp until I saw what his face looks like now. He’s a really strange, off putting dude.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sPof3taFRto

[Anonymous No.17701186]

>>17699068
>And he uncovered some psychological traps Ive been putting myself into for a long period of time . That they actually affected how my brain works and interacts with new experiences
Any examples out of curiosity?

[Anonymous No.17701204]

>>17700727
At least some part of it basically comes down to integrity of microbiomes. Although I have no idea to what degree because microbiome research is still new. But by weight and function, it's basically another organ that supports all other organs, including healthy ideal development of those organs and important systems, since nutrient absorption is important and it determines ability to efficiently digest and absorb those nutrients from food. Not to mention the hormone production and immune system support it provides, which also plays into the healthy development part. Why can hong kongers breathe in sludge air and still be so long lived? Maybe some of it has to do with having better maintained integrity of microbiomes compared to obese western countries, because they regularly eat dishes similar enough to their ancestors (ie traditional fermented foods).

Africans imported as slaves were on slave diets, probably not exactly the most nutrient dense or ideal diet for maintaining ideal microbiome health and integrity. Even before they were sold as slaves, they were probably not eating their ideal native diets in ideal quantities since they were on the lowest rungs of the hierarchy even back in Africa. Animal studies show that a damaged microbiome in one generation will ripple out into subsequent generations because gut flora is always passed down from mother to child. Today the nutrient density of 'slave diets' (ie poor people junk food diets and soda) is even worse than what poor people ate ~60 years ago, since back then at least they could be expected to scramble whenever they can for a bit of fish or cheap organ meats (grandma's weekly liver and onions) and didn't consume quite as much excess sugar and refined white flour, which can be highly damaging to the microbiome.

[Anonymous No.17701312]

>>17701204
I think that's a perfectly reasonable theory. Thanks for sharing it.

[Anonymous No.17701373]

>>17701204
Reasonable, it just needs direct research

[Anonymous No.17701387]

>>17701312
And it'll probably remain just a throwaway theory in my head because even if it's all true to a degree that's significant, there's no way any professional is going to talk about something like this openly and specifically.

If it's true, undeniable black underprivilege really does exist in some capacity. But rather than the hyper fixation on social/institutional stuff, it becomes a mission of using science to make perfected FMTs or borderline miraculous super-probiotics easily available to everyone AND getting an obese fast-food-addicted adult population to do the necessary sacrifices to maintain a boosted microbiome even if they're granted one for free. But the latter starts to get into other problems like the motivations and profits of food-related companies, many of which are quite large and wealthy in their own right. So idk, I guess we're stuck as it is anyway.

[Anonymous No.17701392]

>90 posters in a peterson thread
Holy shit /lit/ is embarrassing

[Anonymous No.17701403]

>>17688815
bookmarking this one

[Anonymous No.17701411]

>>17699367
I always wonder why people (lefties in particular) deny IQ difference. or when they do, like with Chomsky and Sam Harris, downplay it?

[Anonymous No.17701425]

>>17698167
The people who post this meme haven't actually read either the old or the new testament
They're just shitposting based on some 20 second clip they saw on YouTube

[Anonymous No.17701438]

>>17701387
Blacks are not underprivileged, they're actually a privileged class. The reason they're over-represented in prison populations and crime statistics is mostly down to genetics, with black culture amplifying it

[Anonymous No.17701445]

>>17701411
It would eradicate the myths they use to maintain power.

[Anonymous No.17701447]

>>17701438
Did you read the context?

[Anonymous No.17701464]

>>17701438
Many prisoners are found to have varying degrees of gut dysbiosis (sign of an ill microbiome) and have higher occurrences of other gut-related conditions like IBS iirc

[Anonymous No.17701474]

>>17701464
How do you explain people with high IQs and poor microbiomes, IBS, etc.? I do know they exist as well, because I know one.

[Anonymous No.17701494]

>>17688815
I hate that guy for several reasons, actually. I can't stand that he's yet another propped up, Jewish-backed mouthpiece; I abhor his transformation from thoughtful creative to money-hungry charlatan; I think his credibility is gone after his benzo binge (how the fuck can an addiction specialist allow himself to literally become the thing he supposedly fights against?); lastly, his connection to (((Shapiro))) and the boys is enough to turn me off his philosophy.

[Anonymous No.17701498]

>>17701474
That when speaking about generalities that affect millions of people, there will be overall trends that don't affect several individuals? Especially if they got dysbiosis after puberty and their mother was normal otherwise. And the ones who have bad dysbiosis or a very poor microbiome (like getting a c. difficile infection) are the worst cases we know how to pick up with current detection, the gut health problems that present themselves the most overtly and obviously. The microbiome is incredibly dense and complex that research has only barely scratched the surfaces.

Let's say there is a true purely, and I mean PURELY, STRICTLY genetics gap in IQ. I don't even care about contesting that part specifically. But what if the gap didn't HAVE to be as wide and could be closed to a degree?

[Anonymous No.17701502]

>>17689031
holy... I want more...

[Anonymous No.17701517]

i'm glad JP exists and his books are bestsellers solely because it debunks the polfag delusion that fascists are being "censored" because they're so radical and a threat to the establishment

[Anonymous No.17701531]

>>17701517
>thinks the plain white bread peterson is a fascist
>and then eagerly claps at his financial success
huh?

[Anonymous No.17701539]

>>17701392
exfoliate your gosh darn pp, cucko

[Anonymous No.17701571]

>>17701539
are you supposed to put deodorant on your balls? no one's ever told me if you are, i'd ask my father but he's disappointed in me enough already

[Anonymous No.17701599]

>>17699068
Gj anon

>>17701517
>employees at publisher have nervous breakdowns about new book
>was still published
>is selling massive amounts on amazon
Is funny desu,

[Anonymous No.17701602]

>>17701517
>peterson
>fascist
>debunks
shit tier bait

[Anonymous No.17701611]

>>17701602
The entirety of the left labels him and all his fans a fascist.
The entirety of the right cries about books being 'banned' on amazon.
By the end of the month it will be in the best sellers list.
Cope.

[Anonymous No.17701663]

>>17701611
It's a self-help book, how does that make it either right or left?
it is a fact that a lot of left-wingers went ballistic over Peterson publishing another book, but that's because they are cretins, not because the book itself is some kind of right wing manifesto. Any normal person would have no objection to something like this being published, and it's inane to use the criteria of mentally ill leftists as to what is "right wing" and what needs to be censored, or applying their standards in any way shape or form

[Anonymous No.17701680]

>>17701663
Sorry anon I was just trying to shit post.

[Anonymous No.17701700]

How did America end up here?

[Anonymous No.17701705]

>>17688760
You mean "tripe". Trite is an adjective meaning banal, while tripe is a noun referring to offal.

[Anonymous No.17701709]

>>17701700
mental illness and 0 sense of priorities

[Anonymous No.17701715]

>>17701680
that's okay anon

[Anonymous No.17701720]

>>17701700
I actually like this guy now

[Anonymous No.17701725]

>>17701700
based JP

[Anonymous No.17701737]

>>17701700
>makes leftist trannies and and right-wing incels cry
Based

[Anonymous No.17701751]

>>17701737
I know he makes leftist seethe, but what do you think right leaning people hate him?

[Anonymous No.17701755]

>>17688815
this
you also can tell that 90% of the people seething about him never bothered to watch his videos or read his work, it's just personal attacks upon personal attacks and outright slander

[Anonymous No.17701762]

>>17701751
>right leaning people
it's only stormfags pretty much

[Anonymous No.17701766]

>>17701751
>>17701762
He just makes anti-social freaks cry, left or right, he doesn't discriminate

[Anonymous No.17701769]

Is it true he wrote maps of meaning when he was 25?

[Anonymous No.17701794]

>>17701769
Published '99. So he would've been around 40

[Anonymous No.17702959]

Can someone just tell me what the fucking rules are

[Anonymous No.17703005]

>>17689278
>we will naturally do good
You did slavery and Colonialism and dropped 2 nukes on Japan

[Anonymous No.17703082]

>>17703005
LOL fun fact slavery was mainly jews and even some africans were in on it selling their own. But that would destroy the white guilt myth the commie shits are trying to push.

[Anonymous No.17703095]

>>17702959
From time to time don't wash your penis.

[Anonymous No.17703119]

>>17701186
The positive feedback loop your brain does you whenever you convince yourself of being on a "lower" status than your peers. Your brain actually tricks you and messes up with your own perception of self worth. It was one of the reasons I quit graphic design and even nearly dropped out of architecture school. And no i was not a brainlet in the profession i had great impression on my professors but my brain was just programmed to drop all the commendations and convince myself of being a loser

[Anonymous No.17703534]

Retarded thread.

[Anonymous No.17703566]

>>17688723
Wow, this is actually excellently written. Reminds me of DeLillo.

[Anonymous No.17703603]

>>17688723
unironically one of the best written pieces i’ve seen posted on /lit/. mogs /wg/ by a long shot. keep it up anon.
the nonsexual stuff is my favorite desu.

[Anonymous No.17703776]

>>17701531
Peterson is a protofascist at the very least

[Anonymous No.17703789]

>>17703776
He's a liberal you nutter.

[Anonymous No.17703791]

>>17703789
No he's not

[Anonymous No.17703796]

>whiny boomer repackages Christian conservatism for zoomers without father figures

[Anonymous No.17703802]

>>17703791
He just argues for the liberal system. That's why reactionaries don't like him.

[Anonymous No.17703805]

>>17703802
Peterson himself is a reactionary

[Anonymous No.17703841]

>>17703805
That's a misinterpretation. He just tries to figure out where the liberal process has been subverted, doesn't mean he rejects the process itself which is what would make a reactionary or revolutionary disposition.

[Anonymous No.17703859]

[Anonymous No.17704038]

>>17703859
OK tranny

[Anonymous No.17704056]

>>17704038
Go clean your room

[Anonymous No.17704088]

>>17704056
not without my

[Anonymous No.17704152]

>>17703805
you're a fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.17704157]

>>17704152
imagine thinking that christian conservatism wrapped up in hackery is anything new

[Anonymous No.17704487]

how far are you guys in

i have only made it to the second rule

its alright so far i guess

[Anonymous No.17705513]

>>17692745
>>17690775
Benzo withdrawal can be done by tapering. It's normally a relatively painless and safe process.
Some clinics for some reason prefer a crash withdrawal which can cause crippling seizures and traumatic anxiety. I can understand doing that for addicts who are likely to go on back on the drug anyway, because those people would never taper, though I also see it used for normal people for no good reason.

What most people don't know is that there's a tiny minority of people who develop something like permanent tolerance. They just don't adapt to lowered doses. Going cold turkey means they stay in the worst of withdrawal more or less indefinitely and tapering does nothing but ease them into the extreme discomfort. Peterson sounds like he might be one of those people.

The reason why he was put on them is highly irregular and him first not going off them when he should have and then asking for higher doses to deal with regular stress suggests he was indeed psychologically addicted to them as well. His doctor absolutely failed him by continuing to prescribe these things, but I assume rich people live easy mode when it comes to drug procurement, not always to their benefit.

Peterson also seems to have no insight into his condition, which is strange for someone like him. It's not that complicated a thing to be a drug addict (I'm addicted to heroin, though I've been clean for a few years now).

I wish he would post more about his medical history, both physical and mental. What exactly caused him to go on them in the first place? What exactly was done to him in the Russian clinic? What were his prescriptions at what point and what were his reactions to them? That stuff is more interesting to me than all the nonsense he usually writes about.

[Anonymous No.17705702]

>>17705513
>What exactly caused him to go on them in the first place?
His wife got a type of cancer that rapidly progressed and then had surgery complications that had her on death's doorstep iirc

[Anonymous No.17706090]

>>17705702
No, he just kept upping the dose for that, he got on it for a weird unexplained thing that made him feel anxious and cold, and then stayed on it for years for no apparent reason.

[Anonymous No.17706325]

>>17688936
This. He's just a fucking idiot. I listen to him to get a good laugh.

[Anonymous No.17706380]

>>17701425
almost there, Hibon. lurk more

[hungryman !!5BI0oSV9uvS No.17706404]

>>17693382
>incels.me

[Anonymous No.17706444]

>>17701700
When someone publishes what amounts to a call for genocide against women, minorities, and trans folks and it becomes a best seller I can see why that would be upsetting, but I realize this is too complicated for Chuds to understand.

[Anonymous No.17706467]

>>17703805
Yeah he wants to return to the bad old days of 2008-2012

[Anonymous No.17706478]

>>17706325
Which things that he says do you laugh at?

[Anonymous No.17706503]

>>17706090
Sounds like someone I'd want life advice from.

[Anonymous No.17706520]

>>17706503
Ye, it's odd that he doesn't address this at all. It's a big elephant in the room and he acts like it doesn't exist. Is he blind to it, or is he hiding the truth he knows would reveal him to be a junkie, ie weak? Neither option is a good look. He could admit to it and own it, nobody is perfect, but talking about it at such length and then not engaging with the core issue is bizarre.

[Anonymous No.17706538]

>>17706478
>you see these postmodern neo-marxists reject categories because they exclude
>also they believe individuals don't exist because the only thing that exists is identity categories

>>17706520
His fanbase ignores everything he does wrong, so why would he adress it, when he can just let them ignore it.

[Anonymous No.17706581]

>>17706478
He lives in a universe of fear, he sees evil postmodernists hiding behind trees wherever he goes. He doesn't understand Nietzsche and I doubt he ever read any postmodernist.

They're waging a war on truth! They don't believe in competence! Blablabla. He sets up this massive bogyeman, the dark forces of the chaotic matriarchy, and tells people they have to buy his books and clean their room to fight it. It is pretty funny but also quite sad.

The clean your room self help stuff is his foot behind the door, he starts with telling people basic common sense advice, and then continues to fill their head with garbage.

[Anonymous No.17706704]

>>17706538
>>17706581
I mean look. What do you call this modern PC garbage? It comes from the universities and has become the dominant cultural ideology. It obviously is influenced by both Marxism and post modernism. I don't understand why you guys always act like what he's saying is insanity. Actually, I do, because you simply don't perceive the problem at all and you feel like he is describing you and nobody ever feels like their opponent does a good job describing them. But to everyone else it makes sense as a broad descriptor.
He is not trying to give an academic critique of postmodernism, he is trying to describe the lunatic progressivist ideology and is saying where it gets certain elements of its ethos.

[Anonymous No.17706713]

>>17689250
>Everything he says is maliciously retarded.
then
>He's a boomer apologist
Do you have any self awareness?

[Anonymous No.17706717]

Is this... supposed to be funny?

[Anonymous No.17706739]

why did this tard start taking benzos in the first place

[Anonymous No.17706766]

>>17706739
Probably because his crack head daughter gave him some.

[Anonymous No.17706772]

>>17706739
Doctor gave it to him for something. Forgot what

[Anonymous No.17706782]

>>17706704
It makes sense to someone that wants to believe it. Peterson is intentionally vague so his fans just fill the gaps however they want, while his critics can't pin him down on any actual points he makes.
When he tries to build some kind of specificity it looks like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBFSDd_5tiE
Telling lies (that contradict each other) about the thought of philosophers he wants to portrait as the enemy, while calling them names and not having any quotes or references.

[Anonymous No.17706889]

>>17706704
There is a lot of anger that is generated by Peterson and other people against the "woke left", the "SJWs" etc but I think it is mostly a strawman, an excuse to make angry men hungry for someone to fight flock to your cause (and give you their cash)

They're not out to "destroy the West".

[Anonymous No.17706931]

>>17706889
No, they just hate white people and anything associated with it

[Anonymous No.17706966]

>>17706889
I completely disagree and have no idea how you could argue otherwise. But your position is what I described above, that you do not see the problem, so you attack Peterson as a liar with imagined strawmen. You need to understand that he is not a liar, he just has a different understanding than you. There is this weird solipsism coming from Peterson attackers, as if everyone agrees that Marxism and wokism aren't actual problems and so him describing them is totally insane and off base. Basically it comes down to you having a fundamentally different worldview than him and people who agree with him, then calling them liars as if they were operating within your frame and consciously lying, rather than having actual different understanding of things than you.

[Anonymous No.17707070]

>>17706931
I am not sure if Peterson really believes this, or if he just wants to plant this idea in people's heads.

Regardless it is garbage. Creating the idea of dangerous people that hate you and want to destroy everything you love is the prime strategy for totalitarian movements.

[Anonymous No.17707085]

>>17688815
This doesn't warrant all the responses. But also there is no trojan horse to fear. Isnt that the beauty of le epic chaos capitalism? We just forget and move on to something else?

[Anonymous No.17707094]

>>17707070
Sure thing chud

[Anonymous No.17707110]

>>17688695
>years ago
>see a random video by this guy
>he's giving a lecture
>it's about how people with low IQ usually end up with worse jobs
>he doesn't propose any kind of solution, he doesn't explain why it's a problem, it's literally just an entire pseudo-moral rant about how people with low IQ tend not to do well and that's somehow unfair
>"Oh okay, this guy is a retard who will say anything for attention, got it."
>flash forward a few years and the guy is somehow a significant name that people listen to a lot
Surreal shit. I bet you people believe that meat diet shit too.

[Anonymous No.17707122]

>>17707070
Yes, better watch out for those Peterson totalitarians. While denying the existence of social justice totalitarians.
This is what I am saying. Your criticism of him is worthless because you are completely wrapped up in your own ridiculous worldview and unable to think outside of it. Your worldview completely discounts the idea of social justice as any sort of threat (ignoring the fact that the current Democratic vice president was picked out of social justice, that the internet is becoming widely censored because of social justice, that we had riots in every American city of social justice) while imagining the people who complain about social justice are the real, lurking threats to freedom.

[Anonymous No.17707165]

>>17707110
You guys always do this shit. First you deny something up and down. Finally, when it is proven to be correct, you move right past that part into 'well why should we even care/ what is the solution/ well that is the fault of socioeconomic factors.'
You never actually acknowledge the actual issue. THAT is why Peterson is talking about it. If you want to solve the issue, first you have to acknowledge the fact that people with low IQs will tend to not be as successful. FIRST, acknowledge that. Don't just breeze past it. Don't ignore it. Once you acknowledge that, THEN start talking about solutions. But you guys always go from denying the problem, to moving the goalposts. You always go from A to C, willfully ignoring B.

[Anonymous No.17707179]

>>17707165
Its common knowledge that low iq people end up in minimum wage jobs.
Does peterson also talk about how the sun rises and sets?

[Anonymous No.17707233]

>>17707179
"Common knowledge" that gets you in big trouble for suggesting and which at least half of people are in complete denial of. "Common knowledge" which would make basically the entire modern left obsolete.

[Anonymous No.17707266]

>>17707122
>Yes, better watch out for those Peterson totalitarians. While denying the existence of social justice totalitarians.
Nah both sides play the same game. The left has a point though, on this website some people are unironically calling for a new holocaust.

If people want constructive solutions rather than a fight, you have to sit down with your opponent and discuss things. But hey, Peterson said the left doesn't believe in truth or discussing things, they only believe in power right? So why not go straight into the fight? That's why I don't like Peterson, he engages in demonization.

Both sides have their agents of division, some honestly believe what they're saying, others are cynical powerbrokers.

[Anonymous No.17707274]

>>17707165
>this is the kind of retard that supports Peterson
Makes sense, I guess. You can't even understand the fact that the issue is that everybody knows that shit already without having to be told, and that it's not even a real problem because artificially putting low IQ people in positions of importance would harm society overall. I can't even imagine what it's like to be so stupid that you seriously think that people need to be told this, or that screeching about a "problem" that has no solution is some incredible act of charitable insight. Enjoy your steaks, pseud.

[Anonymous No.17707328]

>>17707274
"Everybody" does not know that and we do in fact force people to hire low IQ idiots and it results in things like bridges collapsing and aircraft carriers crashing into each other. "Everybody" might know it on an internal level, but official policy is that poor people are equally capable and were just given fewer opportunities.
Again, if you could actually get everyone on the same page with this information, that would be a great start. We don't need to look for "solutions" we need to look for consensus on obvious reality. Claiming that is what we have is insane. Claiming the official reality is that poor people are poor because they're dumb is so far from truth it's absurd to even suggest that. Even the Republicans wouldn't say that out loud, and the entire Democratic platform is built on stark denial of it.

[Anonymous No.17707400]

>>17707328
Poor people aren't just poor because they're dumb you retard, that doesn't follow from "dumb people tend to be poorer". Fucking hell, everyone who obsesses over politics is a fucking brainlet. Honestly if any of you think they're both not dumb and care about politics, you actually are dumb, I can promise you that.

[Anonymous No.17707438]

>>17707328
>we do in fact force people to hire low IQ idiots
Yeah, to clean toilets at McDonald's maybe

[Anonymous No.17707456]

>>17688695
He doesn't say anything interesting, but speaks to the kind of midwit ignoramus that frequents /pol/. People on /lit/ at least tend to be better read than that

[Anonymous No.17707770]

>>17707400
>Poor people aren't just poor because they're dumb you retard
I never said that, that is a strawman.

But my point is that many people will not even admit there is a connection.

>>17707438
McDonald's, unlike government agencies and Fortune 500 companies, hires on the basis of merit rather than group identification.

[Anonymous No.17707803]

>>17701751
Stormfags hate him since he addresses the very problems that cause people to join them in the first place.

[Anonymous No.17707815]

>>17707233
No retard it's only controversial when you bring race into equation
Do you really think le leftist boogeyman gives a shit if you say rednecks work oil rigs because they are low iq?

[Anonymous No.17707917]

>>17706889
You have no idea how much this insanity has infested academia. Or maybe you're used to it and don't bother to question it. Really look at some of the stuff coming from the woke left. And I don't just mean the fringe nutjobs, I'm talking about the mainstream and the big name institutions. This poster for example, backed by the Smithsonian. What implications do take from this? Do you find it empowering or demoralizing? Unifying or divisive?

[Anonymous No.17707938]

>>17706782
Can you point out any of these lies and contradictions specifically? There's a lot to cover in a 10 minute video, so I would like to know exactly what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.17708011]

>>17707266
>on this website some people are unironically calling for a new holocaust
Most of it is just retards venting their frustrations. Best they do it here instead of just blowing up on some poor schmuck that ran into them on a bad day IRL. Everywhere else, their grievances are being dismissed and shut down, rather than addressed. 4chan is rather interesting in that in-depth discussion still flourishes, despite all the shitposting, trolling, and slurs.
>Peterson said the left doesn't believe in truth or discussing things, they only believe in power right?
The radical left.
>So why not go straight into the fight? That's why I don't like Peterson, he engages in demonization.
What do you mean straight into the fight? And the guy is more understanding, than demonizing. At least he preaches understanding and forgiveness rather than guilt-tripping and humiliation.

[Anonymous No.17708018]

>>17707815
I think if you said "poor people are poor in substantial part because of their low intelligence" all rightthinking people would flip out. If you make it explicit like that they won't go for it. But yes you can allude to rednecks being poor and stupid and get away with it.

>>17707917
People need to get away from the idea that this is just a problem in the universities. The universities are where most of the ideas in our culture come from. The most powerful ideas and institutions in our culture now are based on social justice.

[Anonymous No.17708022]

>>17707274
If people don't have anyone to help reinforce positive values and ideas, things tend to go Lord of the Flies. Memetics are required for maintaining our complex society

[Anonymous No.17708028]

>>17708011
>Most of it is just retards venting their frustrations. Best they do it here instead of just blowing up on some poor schmuck that ran into them on a bad day IRL. Everywhere else, their grievances are being dismissed and shut down, rather than addressed. 4chan is rather interesting in that in-depth discussion still flourishes, despite all the shitposting, trolling, and slurs.
Also the fact that when lefties talk about 'fascists' they are not talking about 4chan but every Trump voter and person to the right of Hillary. So what if people on some obscure forum are radical? That does not mean they are any threat. Whereas, on the other hand, left totalitarianism manifests in every powerful part of society.

[Anonymous No.17708221]

>>17706889
You completely miss what the actual problem is, and it can even be used to critique Peterson if you want. Because the 'classical liberal' values he defends are what inevitably plant the seed and water the ground for leftist extremists grow in the first place. It's unavoidable since classical liberalism has never offered up a sufficient solution, and it will keep running into this problem no matter how many hypothetical 'resets' that could happen to it. The extremists notice that liberalism has failed to ever fully address the injustices of being born below average in some aspect (attractiveness, IQ, etc) despite spouting high flying ideals of everyone getting equal opportunity, a fair shot at something better or even great as long as they work for it. Those extremists are able to take advantage of the frustration that occurs in the friction of wealth/advantages gaps.

[Anonymous No.17708405]

>>17707770
McDonalds is a Fortune 500 company...

[Anonymous No.17708891]

>>17708028
Trump is an unironic fascist and his followers attempted to overthrow the government. There's nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade.

[Anonymous No.17708902]

>>17708011
Whining that straight white men are the most oppressed race in the world deserves to be laughed at instead of being entertained seriously.

[Anonymous No.17708924]

>>17708028
>>17708891
Also its funny that you complain that leftists call everyone to the right of Hillary a fascist (which is funny since Hillary is a neoliberal dinosaur), whereas you have people like Peterson calling everyone to the left of him a postmodern cultural marxist.

[Anonymous No.17708925]

>>17708891
LMAO at Trump as a fascist. Do you even know what fascism is? Even if Trump wanted to be a fascist (and it is by no clear that he did), the structural checks of the US government (separation of powers among executive, legislative, judicial; federation of powers between federal government, state governments, local governments) prevented that. Trump had no more power over the life of the average American citizen than Obama did before him or than Biden does now. Most of his actions were relatively limited in effect. He might have talked a pseudo-nationalist game but his actual policies were variations on what we've already seen. Fascism lmao.

He did get all the media upset because he talked frankly and without any pretense and always said what he thought without trying to sound 'presidential,' and he would rudely call people out when he saw BS.

I didn't like the guy as a president, and I've thought that he is a buffoon for decades (basically since his idiocy killed the USFL), but calling him a fascist is ridiculous. He was no Hitler and he was no Mussolini.

[Anonymous No.17708939]

>>17708018
>I think if you said "poor people are poor in substantial part because of their low intelligence" all rightthinking people would flip out
This is correct. Guess just comes down to how its worded.

[Anonymous No.17708942]

>>17708891
bruh

[Anonymous No.17708948]

>>17708925
Trump did all he could to subvert and overturn the processes of government. Just because he largely failed does not mean that he did not try.
>he talked frankly and without any pretense and always said what he thought without trying to sound "presidential"
And instead he talked like an eight-year-old on opium. There's speaking frankly, and then there's telling your followers to inject bleach to fight covid.
>and he would rudely call people out when he saw BS
while telling more lies than probably any other president.
>he was no Hitler and he was no Mussolini
Just because you're an incompetent failed tyrant doesn't mean that you didn't attempt to become a tyrant. Anyone who overtly attempts to overthrow the government instantly goes into trash compactor of American history.

[Anonymous No.17708969]

>>17708948
>Trump did all he could to subvert and overturn the processes of government. Just because he largely failed does not mean that he did not try.
Nonsense. Did he stop sending federal dollars to states with Democrat governors and legislators? No, he didn't, even though *he would have been within his rights as the president to have done so*. Did he ignore the policies and budgets that the Congress implemented? Again, no. Ignore the courts? No once more (compare him to past presidents who publicly said things like 'the court has made their ruling, now watch me not enforce it').

Trump's PR was atrocious and he was HATED HATED HATED by just about every single mainstream media outlet, so the negative press on him was constant. Mountains out of molehills was par for the course. But in terms of what he actually did, or how he was *actually* different than past presidents... well, there isn't not much.

[Anonymous No.17708976]

>>17708969
And again, I say this as someone who doesn't even like the guy. But the collective insanity everyone on the left exhibited over the last 4 years is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.17708993]

When you find out about Petersons connection to the United Nations its clear he's some sort of proxy actor trying to deracialize people on behalf of someone or some group. This is the reason why he started doing pepe video stuff because he was trying to attract the pol audience.

[Anonymous No.17709019]

>>17708969
Trump did refuse to give democrat states their share of the stockpile of ventilators and forced them to compete with the federal government on the marketplace, not to mention that he took the opportunity during the BLM protests to cut federal funding to major Democrat-led cities.

And don't forget that he attempted to use federal aid money that Congress had already earmarked to be used to aid the Ukrainian government as blackmail, attempting to overstep Congress's power of the purse.

And that's not even mentioning how his administration was a stinking swamp of incompetents, sycophants and his own retarded brood. Trump will become the new standard of corrupt cabinets, superceding the likes of Grant, Harding and Nixon. And he couldn't even repeal the ACA when he had a majority in both houses of Congress! His greatest crime was not being evil, but being utterly incompetent.
>and he was HATED HATED HATED by just about ever single mainstream media outlet
for good reason. Most Americans also HATED HATED HATED Trump; imagine losing the popular vote to Hillary Clinton of all people.

[Anonymous No.17709030]

>>17709019
Verbatim DNC talking points. OK. Anyways good luck to you anon I wish you well and hope you have a good night.

[Anonymous No.17709045]

>>17709030
All of these things are true, anon. You claim to dislike Trump yet you sure do argue like a MAGAtard.
Once again, consider that he lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton, who not even the Democrats like, and is probably the most hated woman in American politics. You can argue that the popular vote doesn't matter, and you're right, but Trump was still incredibly butthurt about it.

[Anonymous No.17709055]

>>17709045
>You claim to dislike Trump yet you sure do argue like a MAGAtard
The point of my posts is that Trump is no fascist however much you might hate him. Anyways, as I said, goodnight to you and God bless.

[Anonymous No.17709057]

>>17709055
He is an attempted fascist

[Anonymous No.17709339]

>>17709057

[Anonymous No.17709378]

>>17701611

You don't know what the word "entirety" means.

[Anonymous No.17709512]

>>17688695
This is cool.

[Anonymous No.17709522]

>>17709055
He LARPed as a fascist within the parameters of what he was allowed to get away with as POTUS.

[Anonymous No.17709534]

>>17688815
https://youtu.be/y4iyuYbgt0I

[Anonymous No.17710127]

>>17707938
8:40
>the world view of the postmodern neo-marxists is that everyone is not an individual [...] but a member of whatever their identity group happens to be
Meanwhile here is what Foucault actually had to say about identity:
https://schwarzemilch.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/foucault-sex-power-and-the-politics-of-identity.pdf on page 3
>But if identity becomes the problem of sexual
existence, and if people think that they have to "uncover" their "own
identity," and that their own identity has to become the law, the principle, the code of their existence; if the perennial question they ask is
"Does this thing conform to my identity?" then, I think, they will turn
back to a kind of ethics very close to the old heterosexual virility. If we
are asked to relate to the question of identity, it must be an identity to
our unique selves

Starting from 3:15 in the video he goes on a long rant that makes the implicit argument, that postmodernists reject category systems, even though that condractics his above claim that they ONLY believe in categories. (it's of course also wrong, as Derrida is quoted as saying "First of all, I didn’t say that there was no center, that we could get along without the center. I believe that the center is a function, not a being — a reality, but a function. And this function is absolutely indispensable. The subject is absolutely indispensable. I don’t destroy the subject; I situate it. That is to say, I believe that at a certain level both of experience and of philosophical and scientific discourse one cannot get along without the notion of subject. It is a question of knowing where it comes from and how it functions. Therefore I keep the concept of center, which I explained was indispensable, as well as that of subject, and the whole system of concepts to which you have referred" about the center that Peterson claims he thinks exists only to exclude)

There's also just the same old clichees about how Postmodernists think facts don't matter and only opinions exist, or how because they sometimes ciritcize scientific practice they reject science as a whole etc.

Those are of course only the most egregious issues. But if you want to debunk all the random nonsense Peterson throws out there it's just a huge waste of time (especially since others have already done it).

[Anonymous No.17710141]

>>17689242
His books are trash and he’s a lunatic. He belongs in an asylum hollering his schizo nonsense to a therapist.

[Anonymous No.17710217]

I watched and enjoyed his lectures, years ago. Especially his Personality lectures. He is an evolutionary psychologist with a Jungian twist.
...which is interesting as evolutionary psychologists and jungian types typically hate each others. But in his case, it opens the field of epistemology through the evolutionary functions of archetypal figures (like the "snake").
That said: he has absolutely no fucking clue about Marxism, his views on postmodernism is retarded; mostly because he got his infos on Stephen Hicks book on postmodernism which is the stupidest pile of retardation you can imagine.
He believes Marxism seeks formal equality (lmao) and this is a threat to the social hierarchy of the pareto law.
In many ways, he is not dumb but he is stuck in his cold-war boomer conservative ways.
His ideas are the pure representation of what Political Correctness was in the 50's

[Anonymous No.17710230]

>>17710141
Those chuds need to be round up in cages

[Anonymous No.17710231]

>>17710217
>which is interesting as evolutionary psychologists and jungian types typically hate each others
Yeah especially interesting considering Peterson always cries about materialists.

[Anonymous No.17710542]

>>17688786
He genuinely doesn’t read the people he criticises.

[Anonymous No.17710734]

>>17708891
calm down Nancy you're drunk

[Anonymous No.17710751]

>>17688815
Yeah, but his followers are moronic sycophants who are just begging to be taken down a peg

[Anonymous No.17710926]

>>17689250
>He's a boomer apologist blaming all the problems and lack of parenting millenials inherited on millennials themselves
>He's cracking the whip of stoicism and telling people in an obviously failed system to buck up and keep shoring it up
This, he is actually out of touch and that's what I hate about him.
It's easy to say "clean your room and get a job", but in the real world, the job market is depressed as fuck (especially since the coof started), wages are low and nobody wants to hire inexperienced zoomers. Boomers like him inflated the price of real estate to unrealistic levels. How are millennials and zoomers are supposed to be happy when they already have a hard time fulfilling the lowest needs of Maslow's pyramid?
I find it also funny how he said in this previous book "dude weed is really dangerous, my friend an hero'd after smoking a joint" then proceed to get a life-threatening addiction to benzos. In his mind, there is nothing wrong with mind-altering drugs as long as your boomer doctor is prescribing them.

I don't think he is a bad person to the core, but he is still a hypocrite, a liar (>muh cider) and makes money out of the suffering of the youth by regurgitating Cold War-era clichés.
Might be helpful if you are a desperate /r9k/bot, but if you are a mostly functional person who is just lost and anxious about the future, he can't help you there. I have a job, I washed my penis, now what?

[Anonymous No.17711102]

Why is Peterson so deeply emotionally weak? Especially compared to the ppl he criticizes like Stalin and Mao?

[Anonymous No.17711117]

>>17711102
If you don't know but he literally cries constantly about movies, fans, his micro speaking tour his fucking illnesses.

[Anonymous No.17711139]

>>17711102
I think that might be the price he's paying for attempting to brainwash himself.

[Anonymous No.17711141]

>>17688815
>>17689252
>>17698174
>>17701494
>>17701755
>>17688815

Jordan Peterson is a CONFIRMED RACE REALIST and stated that jews are "producing more geniuses" because of their high average IQ compared to other ethnic groups. He argues against the hatred towards this ethnicity by asking the question: "What do you want? Fewer geniuses?" suggesting a support of them remaining in a closed, thriving community - a thing he doesn't want to see in europe (more of that later).

>https://youtu.be/8ZasHG5EQPc?t=156 (2:36-3:20)

Here is a shady tactic of him, because he didn't mention a CRUCIAL fact: The research on ashkenazi jewish intelligence suggests an overall average IQ of 115. However, if you look at the composition of each single IQ-factor, you end up with a very weird, unusual shaped profile. The reason for the 115 is an even higher average of 126 on mathematical and verbal IQ, yet their visual-spatial IQ (mostly used for engineering and architecture) is mildly below average (98). These small differences are huge as they lead to over and underrepresentations at the edge of the distribution. In this case an overrepresentation of high visual-spatial IQ in europeans and asians in direct comparison to ashkenazi jews. Yet these groups can't remain closed because that would be bad collectivism!

Hungary in the 1930s: Ashkenazim were 6% of the population, but they comprised 55.7% of physicians, 49.2% of attorneys, 30.4% of engineers, and 59.4% of bank officers.
Pay attention to the sudden drop in engineering. But its still high without their visual-spatial profile being above average, suggesting either conspiracy or a massive socioeconomic advantage.

>JP: You see the problem emerging with the issue of Ashkenazi Jews, because they’re overrepresented in most positions of competence, let’s say, and authority—radically overrepresented, especially at the top. Unless you’re willing to posit something like IQ differential that will account for it, you have to come up with a conspiratorial theory. This is the thing about IQ research: no matter how you interpret it, you’re basically screwed. It’s partly because the facts of the world don’t necessarily line up with our a priori moral desires.
>https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/transcripts/douglas-murray/
He also states in this interview that black people on average perform lower on IQ tests.

This man can ramble for hours on the economic impact of intelligence and the effect of testosterone on personality profiles, yet states in another video that he is "simply pro people" and doesnt mind global population growth - while being perfectly aware of the countries that are mainly contributing to this global population growth.
He even acknowledged in another video that an IQ of 83 is so ridiculously low, that you can't work with this score at any level of the military and that society doesn't know what to do with these people as they are completely useless.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-Ur71ZnNVk

[Anonymous No.17711162]

>>17711141
It's common knowledge he's retarded

[Anonymous No.17711603]

>>17711141
Actually true

[Anonymous No.17711722]

>>17708902
Nobody is claiming they're the most oppressed, but they are unfairly maligned, despite most every other demographic sponging off their economic output.

[Anonymous No.17712154]

>>17710926
only skimmed through yourpost but his message is about changing attitudes, morethan practices. obviously cleanimg a room doesnt do anything, and many people cant clean their rooms or have a room and whatever

[Anonymous No.17713005]

>>17688815
This. And /his/ fell for "hate everything potentially popular" meme again. Fuck this place.

[Anonymous No.17713047]

Gmm, I wonder if Jorbidan Debeeperson has helped anyone. I'll check on 4chan, thats where people tend to post after theyve worked through all their issues in life.

[Anonymous No.17713076]

>>17688695
I don't know if it's a worthy read or not but the first one wasn't bad and JP is cool.

>NOOOO BUT YOU CAN'T EMPOWER MEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK UP TO OUR FEMININST AND TRANS ICONS!!
>FEEL WHITE GUILT FEEL GUILTY FOR BEING A MAN!!

This is all his critics are about. All you retards are brainwashed psuedo intellectual cunts and I hope your life does not improve until you break your conditioning. I sincerely mean this.

[Anonymous No.17713099]

>>17710217
>Marxism seeks formal equality (lmao)
That's what the useful idiots believe though. There's always a big discrepancy between what the grass roots supporters think it is and what it actually is. That's the entire fucking problem.

[Anonymous No.17713217]

>>17713099
He argues that in debates with people who read Marx, such as Zizek though.

[Anonymous No.17713585]

>>17713076
Nah he's just wrong and retarded
>ancient chinese drew pictures of DNA bucko
Sure thing

[Anonymous No.17713787]

>>17688695
One question that I get asked a lot, and I think it's an important question is "Is it okay to shit your pants?"
And I think we have to ask ourselves, firstly, is it okay to shit? And the answer to that is, yes, of course it is okay to shit.
You have to push the poop out of your butt because it is a very small space. Eventually you will run out of room.
The other question we have to ask is, are we, as a society, setting unrealistic expectations when it comes to the cleanliness of our pants?
They have to get dirty sometimes. But the Marxist post-modernists are saying that pants should be clean all the time, but that's just not possible.
And I think a lot of young men can emphasize with that, and it's terrible. I get young men coming up to me all the time and their pants are covered in poo poo, and most of it has usually come from their own butt. And it's a travesty. It's very upsetting. Sometimes they have come hundreds of miles just to see me, and they are covered in shit.
And people are saying: "Well, why not use adult diapers?". But I've seen 15 years of studies, I've read all the literature. And the consensus seems to be that diapers themselves do not solve the problem.
And what I'm proposing is something that the post-modernists are saying is radical. Within actuality, it has been a defining feature of civilization since the dawn of man. I am, of course, talking about pulling down your pants, shaking your bottom, till all the poops fall out. Because that is essentially getting to the root of the issue. My hope is that one day we can git rid of the pants altogether. It's, like, okay, NOW we can just dump straight onto the ground. What else can we do? Well, we can feel the gentle breeze on our testicles. We can get rid of washing machines. And, so, there are other benefits.
And I think young men are really responding to that message.

[Anonymous No.17713834]

>>17689235
I don't like Peterson that much but I agree with the more general message.

[Anonymous No.17713842]

Schizophrenic pillhead

[Anonymous No.17714272]

>>17688815
>they are also responsible for all the "lol solzhenitsyn is lying" threads
the absolute fucking state of bunkertrannies
dont they have anything better to do?

[Anonymous No.17714380]

>>17713787
terribly unfunny

[Anonymous No.17714419]

>>17689235
>Humans need a constant reminder to do good or they will degenerate. That’s why “read your scriptures and go to church” is so important and effective.
Yeah so we can read up on divinely sanctioned torture and genocide and grovel before some pedo priest.

Fuck Peterson and his traditional values LARP.

[Anonymous No.17714436]

saw this book at costco today. that's when you know you've made it. guy must be raking in the dough

[Anonymous No.17714469]

>>17688695

he's an utterly mediocre and boring thinker. Thus it's annoying to see him constantly come up.

See- this thread.

[Anonymous No.17714543]

>>17714469
He's so boring and mediocre that people cannot help themselves but talk about him. His ideas are so simple and common sense, yet no one can even define them properly or argue against them, choosing only to make baseless character attacks and to devalue his work because they personally couldn't take anything from it, projecting their own inadequacy as a thinker unto to the author.

[Anonymous No.17714617]

>>17714543
>yet no one can even define them properly or argue against them
It's some outdated, schizo Jungian fantasy mixed with boomer wisdom, fear mongering about those crazy SJWs and some trite self help stuff to draw the reader in.

[Anonymous No.17714766]

>>17714617
This kind of reduction says more about you than the author himself, revealing that you've only engaged with his work enough to recognize a couple features of popular ideas and create a low quality representation in your head good enough to dismiss him entirely and remove the need to actually think.

You can play this game with any author and book. It's not clever or interesting, it's a heuristic for saving time and effort, that only produces, what /lit/ would call - midwits, people that masquerade as intellectuals but cannot understand nuance.

[Anonymous No.17714811]

>>17714543
What are these incredible ideas that no one can argue against, while they make them so mad they attack his character?

[Anonymous No.17714857]

>>17688815
Jordan is a great first redpill.
A great set of discomfort went through me 3~4 years ago and I got him recomended on JewTube. After a while I just realized he was controled opposition and moved on. I still, from time to time, see one of his phylosophical videos since I like the way he presents them, they're a bit like how I think internaly.

[Anonymous No.17714866]

>>17714811
If they could be summarized in a couple sentences, he wouldn't have bothered to write Maps of Meaning and teach a semester long course on it.

[Anonymous No.17714883]

>>17714543

yeah if you read my post properly you'd see it's aimed even more so at the people dunking on him.

making fun of peterson is like making fun of the aspergers kids in class at this point. even more pathetic.

[Anonymous No.17714890]

>>17714766
Honestly I thought Peterson was interesting at first, he seemed to speak to the incel and men problems we have in society. But after a while I saw what was behind the facade. It's PragerU stuff with a bit of Jung to make it interesting.

[Anonymous No.17714907]

>>17714890
>It's PragerU stuff with a bit of Jung to make it interesting.

Nah, it's gnosticism with a bit of hygiene advice sprinkled on top. Trust me, bro.

[Anonymous No.17714934]

>>17714907
Which one of these is supposed to be less boring?

[Anonymous No.17714950]

>>17714907
You're wrong, it's actually christian mysticism coupled with transphobic conservatism. Glad I could save you some time, man.

[Anonymous No.17714972]

>>17714950
Wait, I thought it was just neo-Jungian analysis of Nietzsche with a healthy dash of anti-communist propaganda? What's going on, did we all read the same guy?

[Anonymous No.17714984]

>>17714950
>transphobic
I wish

[Anonymous No.17715020]

>>17714972
Dude, it's clearly neo-cisgenderism with some psychoanalytic namedrops and neo-ketogenic aspirations.

[Anonymous No.17715028]

>>17714857
>Jordan is a great first redpill.
True, I think that is why he was allowed to reach the position he is in. He is shilling for the elites to get people angry at the terrible leftists.

[Anonymous No.17715786]

>>17689278
This reminds me of the Shinto priests justifying their religion and Japanese natural ethnic superiority

[Anonymous No.17715921]

>>17688723
very based we'd be good friends in another timeline