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POST HERE YOUR QUESTIONS THAT DON'T DESERVE THEIR OWN THREAD:
>Books with X theme?
>What am I in for?
>What was his/her problem?
>Books like X?
>Do I need to read X to understand Y?
>other questions I can't think of right now

This is an experiment, /lit/ is complaining lately.
I think this could help the board quality overall.
Direct all questions that in your opinion don't deserve their own thread to here.
Keep this thread open if you like to help fellow anons out with their questions.
Turning this in a general avoids newfags asking those same questions over and over again.
Also, other repetitive posts that don't really need their own thread can be directed here.

Feel free to discuss your thoughts about this becoming a general and maybe improve the template, and save it on our wiki so we could easily copy paste.

>> No.17704850

>>17704830
i just come to these threads for the cute anime girls.
I preferred the working gals, maybe more of that?

>> No.17704865

>>17704830
Book about who I want to fuck anime girls, alternatively books about the evil of combining mindless streaming content with dick hardening which v. tubers are?

>> No.17704885

Stop with the fucking anime girls. The QTDDTOT thread idea is already mildly controversial for some reason, why would you further clutter it by associating it with shit that makes half the userbase annoyed?

>>17704850
>>17704865
Case in point.

>> No.17704909
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Smells like /sci/nigger here.

>> No.17705268

>>17704830
french bros what non fiction should i read, i can understand but my vocab is bad

>> No.17705286

>>17704830
No one likes furries. But even 1% furry is starting to grate on my nerves. Less of the four-ears, please.

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>>17704885
>that makes half the userbase annoyed?
Anime website

>> No.17705306

I’ve recently got back into reading and I’ve read mostly bad but some good books. My two favorites has been Notes from Underground and Fight Club. Notes from Underground I struggled with, probably because I’m retarded but Fight Club was enjoyable. Any books people can recommend up next? I’m thinking American Psycho maybe.

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>>17705286
Sorry, but furries are great.

>> No.17705990 [DELETED] 

>>17705294
Ignore him, he's just a pseudo.

>> No.17706026
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17706026

What am in for

>> No.17706354
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Not a question, but I'm the guy from the thread a few weeks back with the Amazon gift card money. I'm posting here with proof that I followed through and bought all those books. Right now, I'm really busy with school, but I'll have them read and reviewed within six months' time. At the very least, I promise to read 50 pages of all of these. Back in Diapers is only 31 pages, so I guarantee I'll read all of that. After flipping through all of these, here are my predictions for how far I'll make it:

>Ready Player Two
Not far past 50 pages. This is dreadful.
>Back in Diapers
Sadly, I'll have to finish this. I'm not gay nor am I into ABDL, so this'll be a trip.
>Feminist Queer Crip
I might actually finish this as long as it isn't too laden with jargon and bullshit. I'm not interested in critical theory type literature, but I may as well broaden my horizons, even if I don't agree with it.
>Against the Grain
This looks really good, I should finish this no problem.
>Anime Fighting Girl
It's a little heavy on the psychobabble and meta-criticism junk, but the topic itself is interesting so I think I'll finish this too.

>>/lit/thread/S17590731

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>>17705313
that is not a furry. that is a makeup artist using a prosthesis to create something imaginative, it is not a sexual act. this is a furry. it is a shameful thing. in a better society it would never happen.

>> No.17706395

>>17706376
That’s a cartoon. A furry is a human that wants to be a cartoon animal.

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>>17706376
Is this furry?

>> No.17706419

How did Freud reconcile the awareness of the Id, ego, and superego in themselves and their counterparts? Is it worth buying is book on the Id?

>> No.17706430
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17706430

>>17706401
Four-ears and a tail? About a 5%, yeah

>> No.17707281

>>17705306
American psycho is a good pick, read it.

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17707329

Have you read it? Is it Worth grabbing? I can get the full 800 pages fairly cheap

>> No.17707797

This is a problem that's possibly too large for QTDDTOT and might deserve its own thread (as it seems to be a problem on most of /lit/, frankly).
What makes reading "hard"? Many people, be they here or elsewhere, don't read. Even some people who want to read and be "book people" don't read. if you don't have a direct and full-fledged answer, even a starting point for understanding this issue (and finding a solution) would be a big help, because this can help not only myself and make me read even more, but possibly raise the board quality altogether.

>> No.17707817

>>17707797
>What makes reading "hard"?
Ambiguity desu

>> No.17708244

I'm just finishing the Quixote and loving it but when I researched Cervantes' later book, The Travails of Persiles and Sigismunda, I can't find it anywhere on pdf in english or any good editions to buy online. Why the hell is this the case?

Cervantes literally called this his "crowning achievement", is it just not good?

>> No.17708269

>>17705294
the anime you like is to real anime as candy crush is to video games

>> No.17708595
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>>17704885
>shit that makes half the userbase annoyed
that is the point

>> No.17708702

>>17708269
>real anime
what did he mean by this

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17708877

What apps do you guys use to create charts?

>> No.17708907

>>17708269
All anime and all video games are of the same quality

>> No.17709109

Is there a non-abridged form of Musashi, or am I stuck reading the English translation that's less than half the length of the original?

>> No.17709643

>>17709109
Stuck with the translation.

>> No.17710102

>>17708877
Bump for this

>> No.17710572

>>17704885
/lit/ is a anime board.

>> No.17710640

Is A Frolic of His Own a decent starting point for Gaddis?

>> No.17711187

>>17704830
Trying to write a proto-finnegans wake story. What books do I need to read that isn’t Finnegans wake to accomplish it? Read it if you guys want to understand.

https://0bin.net/paste/PJ4rS+Ga#Hkyv8jUtZZxY0B2KXyB3TmI9S7mrjoT+mnVTY-MQONq

>> No.17711211

Is there a philosophy for Coomers? Like Coomerism or some shit?

>> No.17711327

>>17711211
Yes, has been for a while.

>> No.17711386

>>17704830
If i am only training every other day, should I still eat as many calories on rest days, or will that turn into fat?

>> No.17711574

>>17705306
american psycho has a lot of noise, whole paragraphs intended to be boring, to be speed-read (let's be honest, singles of us here will get the brand pairing jokes if there are any), but it's a rollercoaster with high highs and low lows, much more volatile than its movie adaptation

>> No.17711635

>>17711386
Figure out a diet.

>> No.17711662

>>17710640
There are no training wheels for Gaddis. Pick whichever interests you most.

>> No.17711957

what happened to http://b-ok.cc/ in the sticky and what is the replacement?

I read on average 10 books a week and need to get my fix

>> No.17711968

>>17711957
z-lib.org

>> No.17711971

>>17711327
Really, where can I read more about it? Any well known philosophers who practiced or preached it?

>> No.17711976

>>17711968
bless you anon

>> No.17711998

I just finished up 'Chapterhouse: Dune' and enjoyed it for the most part.
Do I continue on with Brian's fanfic, or is Dune complete for me?

>> No.17713331

>>17711998
Continue.

>> No.17713397

Besides writing a lot, what else can I do to improve my prose? I read a lot, but there doesn't seem to be a transfer over into my own writing. I can tell what is and isn't good prose. However, I can't explain why it's good or bad.

>> No.17713527

>>17713397
Writing prompts are a good way to get you writing out of your comfort zone.

Also, setting yourself dumb little writing challenges are a """fun""" way of making you write differently. You could do something like 'write a story without using [insert letters here]' or 'each sentence must have 'x' words and 'x' syllables', something to make you think about the words you are using more.

>> No.17713552

>>17704830
Looking for non Tolkien fantasy. Any reccomendations?

>> No.17713578

>>17713552
Gene Wolfe.

>> No.17714003

>>17713578
Is he any good.

>> No.17714010

>>17707797
Read Truth & Method, and The Rule of Metaphor, and you will see

They're both very hard

>> No.17714025

>>17714003
Extremely so.
At least in my opinion.

>> No.17714409

>>17714025
I’ll check him out.

>> No.17714566

>>17704830
Would there be enough interest on this board to start daily russian classics general threads?

>> No.17714774

Aside from the Hagakure and the Bansenshukai, are there any other Japanese books of "honor codes"?
Also, what are the European equivalents?
>>17714566
Probably, but you'll have to be dedicated and make them stay up for a while. You'll also need an OP "sticky" that makes sense to have for a while. And don't end up discouraged if they seem somewhat dead at first, many general threads struggle at first.

>> No.17715056

>>17714566
Russians classics are mentioned every day, so.

>> No.17715641

hey guys im looking for recs. I just finished reading a couple vonnegut and calvino novels and I enjoyed them but I'm ready for something different. I want something sincere that will make me cry. I read, but not as often as many of you here, so even if the book seems an obvious choice, there's a good chance I haven't read it. Thanks

>> No.17715735

>>17715641
The great gatsby.

>> No.17716295

>>17704830
Are any books set in the Ravenloft D&D setting worth reading?

>> No.17716317

>>17707797
My guess is that it is due in part to the culture of making reading seem uncool as well as due to the massive amount of content available giving people some content overload

>> No.17716346

>>17707797
I think it has to do with being involved with other media and those -- TV, movies, YouTube, etc. -- having more of a FOMO pull than books have. I think this is especially the case with books being physical and them having a sense of permanence, but something NOW on TV, or Netflix, seems impermanent and needing to be seen now -- maybe due to the social interaction tied with it, i.e. you watch something popular to be a part of the conversation.

>> No.17716363

quick and easy ways to kill myself?

>> No.17716411

>>17707797
A lot of people cite the weak focus and attention that bubbles up when they put their eyes to paper and start reading. More prolific readers might scoff at this, saying that self-discipline is all they need to get back on track. I think it's deeper than just focus, though, since I easily blitzed through The Handmaid's Tale and The Testaments but couldn't get through the first 10 pages of Swann's Way (Lydia Davis translation)

>>17716317
Adding on to this: I'm not sure where you live, anons, but one of the points I remember from /x/'s "Dead Internet Theory" was the idea that the American populace suffers from simultaneously too much information and a lack of diversity of it. If this is the case, then that helps us see how people who want to be well-read can't; they are so wired to the structure of propaganda that anything that's novel or otherwise breaks form is difficult to understand, which in turn exacerbates shorter and shorter attention spans.

>> No.17716529 [DELETED] 

>>17704830
What translation of In Search of Lost Time is the bet?

>> No.17716548

>>17704830
What's the best translation of In Search of Lost Time?

>> No.17716765
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17716765

if latour just defines action to mean "has some degree of causal effect" why isn't this so general that it encapsulates everything?

>> No.17716815

Just subbed to audible after not having red a book in 10 years (and not being a reader in general), will i regret it? I don't have the time to actually read books at home since i'm vidyapilled but it's very doable to listen to them at work.

>> No.17716865

>>17716815
Obligatory "it's not reading.
If you're looking to analyze a work on an academic level you have to actually read it. That said, if it's just to have a passing familiarity with works, such as to know the plot or even [up to] a decent understanding of a work? You're fine. Ideally you'd read, because that gives you more time to stop and think, but imo even something like Euthyphro could be understood in audiobook format. I'd imagine that an audio format would also work well for a number of poems as well as Eunoia and other books that play around with sounds and language.

>> No.17716873

>>17716865
Meant to write "it's not reading."
I don't know where the rest of the quotation marks went.

>> No.17716898

>>17714774
Have you read Mishima's book on Hagakure?

>>17715641
The last book that made me cry was The Forever War but that may not be your cup of tea. And before that it was The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Both scifi.

>>17716295
/sffg/ might know. Or /tg/. Does /tg/ read?

>> No.17716917

>>17716898
>Have you read Mishima's book on Hagakure?
I have not, thanks for the recommendation

>> No.17717350

>>17711187
Why would you ever write this.

>> No.17717438

>>17710640
Carpenter's gothic is both shorter and better.

>> No.17717443

>>17713552
Mervyn peake's Gormenghast

>> No.17717450

>>17716548
French

>> No.17717463

>>17711187
what the fuck did i just read

>> No.17717484

>>17717463
You’re reading the next New York best seller. And unlike the animefags, my name will be with the great authors.

>> No.17717491

>>17717350
>>17717463
adhd

>> No.17717504

>>17717491
That shit ain’t ADHD.

>> No.17717671

>>17716898
/tg/ does read.

>> No.17717786

>>17713552
Dying Earth by Jack Vance
Also seconding Gene Wolfe. Would recommend The Wizard Knight to start.

>> No.17718600

Is reading Donald Trump’s book: The America We Deserve a good insight on him?

>> No.17718953

>>17718600
Who knows, but it does make you long for Reform Trump.

>> No.17718965

>>17718600
i hope he writes his memoirs of the white house years, entirely in his own idiom, unedited. it could be a classic

>> No.17719061

>>17718965
It definitely will be Kino.

>> No.17719122

>>17717786
Would you recommend The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant

>> No.17719620

>>17711968
What happened?

>> No.17719656

Where should I start with Ryu Murakami?

>> No.17720730
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What are the best books/textbooks to learn Polish? (not for me btw, I already am Polish)

>> No.17720883

>>17716815
Nothing wrong with audiobooks. Reading is reading. I like to read nonfiction shit during the day (it's my job somehow) but listen to fun audiobooks at night before bed, like horror short stories on the youtube channels HorrorBabble, Edward French (try his reading of The Night Wire if you like Lovecraft), and Bite Sized Audio Classics (he also does Sherlock). Sherlock would be a great thing to listen to over audiobook, although I think some recordings are subpar.. the Stephen Fry one made Sherlock into a sassy cunt and missed the meaning of most of his lines, imho.

I also like to walk and listen to audiobooks. I listened to Neuromancer recently, there's a good audiobook of that. Interesting one of Snow Crash too. I bet most scifi has decent readings.

I won't do it for very important things though. I would never do it for Tolkien. I will listen to most horror and weird fiction on there, but I recently fell in love with the John Silence stories of Algernon Blackwood, and decided they were so important to me that I wanted to make 100% sure I constructed the world while reading them myself instead of letting the narrator color it.

>> No.17721818

Bump

>> No.17721863
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17721863

Is this good? It's in the Audible 2-for-1 spring sale. I don't even know why I'm thinking about getting it, since I'm not interested in publishing anything. I just collect Great Courses.

>> No.17722290

>>17719620
Got canned.

>> No.17722962

Two questions:

How do you get into a good productive reading routine? AKA, time, place, environment, how often and how long?

Any works of literature that explore education in depth? Like really deep into teaching and learning.

>> No.17723602

>>17722962
>How do you get into a good productive reading routine?
It varies by person to person.

>> No.17723833

>>17721863
Yes

>> No.17723982

where do you download books since b-ok is down

>> No.17724078

anyone got the latest monarchist reading chart?

>> No.17724098

>>17705306
American Psycho sounds like a good pick for you. I also recommend The Metamorphosis.

>>17706026
Action and adventure

>>17706354
kek but you should make an actual thread if you havent

>>17707797
The first thing to recognize is that reading is an active activity like playing a sport or cooking. It isn't mindless indulgence like watching TV or listening to popular music. What makes reading different from other active activities, like say video games, is that you, more or less, need to be in a constant state of flow and focus. In addition to all of this, there's also a number of skills you need to constantly be using while reading, namely vocabulary and comprehension.

>>17708877
I've made a lot of charts for /lit/ and I've done it all in photoshop.

>>17711211
Symposium?

>>17711386
You should eat more on workout days since you're burning more calories working out.

>>17711998
Stop and read Book of the New Sun instead

>>17713397
Read nonfiction about writing

>>17713552
Book of the New Sun

>>17714566
Generals like that don't really work well on /lit/. Generals like this one barely work. The only generals that make sense as far as I can tell are the scifi/fantasy general, the writing general, and the poetry general. Nietzsche should get his own fucking general instead of ruining the catalog.

>>17714774
A Book of Five Rings by Miyamoto Musashi?

No clue with regards to nonfiction related to European equivalent of chivalry but maybe romanticized medieval prose like Le Mort d'Arthur?

>>17716363
Jumping off a building and making sure your head hits the ground first. Keeping the car engine running in a closed garage.

>>17716548
Modern Library Classics

>>17718600
It is a good insight into what Trump told his ghost writer to say about him

>>17722962
Good productive reading routine: I don't have a routine, I just read when I can. I will often isolate myself from tech and other people, and a cup of coffee usually helps with concentration.

>> No.17724267

>>17723982
Go to z-lib.org, I think 1lib.us is the current suggested replacement mirror for b-ok

>> No.17724862

>>17724098
you dont have to do this. please dont do this.

>> No.17725649

>>17707797
Anxiety.

>> No.17725666

>>17724098
>Jumping off a building and making sure your head hits the ground first. Keeping the car engine running in a closed garage.
what the fuck kind of building has a closed garage on the top floor you retard

>> No.17725843

>>17725666
He didn't say it was on the top floor. Did you just imagine he was saying one should spend some time inhaling car fumes in a garage and then stumble out to jump off?

>> No.17725945

>>17708244
>Cervantes literally called this his "crowning achievement", is it just not good?
It’s not good, anon.

>> No.17726340

>>17725843
You don't have to get so rude about it.

>> No.17726361

>>17726340
I wasn't the one calling someone a retard.

>> No.17726416

What is the book equivalent to Punk music or something like Joy Division? Not even looking to read some just interested in finding out does Punk exist in book form.
>inb4 Dead Souls or John Cooper Clarke

>> No.17726435

>>17726416
Dead souls.

>> No.17726460

I'm in the mood for a book that's smartly made, entertaining and gripping, with something really fucking shocking and unexpected to happen in it.
Something like a mystery novel where there's 600 pages about trying to capture a murderer and then a nuclear bomb goes off and the world is plunged into WWIII and the murder doesn't even fucking matter anymore, or a slice of life book where a happy family in a quiet little town is destroyed when the father passes away and it's discovered he was a satanist trying to summon baphomet by sacrificing children. Shit like that.
Are there any good books like that?

>> No.17726466

>>17726460
>Are there any good books like that?
None that I can remember.

>> No.17726552

>>17726416
john cooper clarke

>> No.17726568

>>17726460
the bible

>> No.17726606

>>17720883
As somebody who loves Blackwood's wendigo, you are missing out on the audiobook. There is a reading on youtube and i swear it's perfection.

>> No.17726630

>>17726606
I'll check it out

>> No.17726644

>>17726416
Catcher in the Rye, maybe?

>>17726460
I know I'm about to reference >tv tropes

but tv tropes has a few pages related to this: "genre shift", "tone shift", "halfway plot switch", all of which I think are pretty good terms for this sort of things and I love when anything, be it books, shows, anime, games, ect. goes this. Within those pages I listed you can find even more specific shifts/switches. The problem with asking for media where this occurs is that its kind of a spoiler in of itself.

Admittedly, this stuff happens in pulpy/commercial fiction, which I tend not to read, so I can't think of anything at the moment.

>> No.17726646

>>17726644
>>tv tropes
Is tv tropes really that hated?

>> No.17726668

>>17706354
This could have used a thread.

>> No.17726673

>>17726646
I'm the poster you responded to and even though I literally just referenced it I hate it and I consider a lot of the hate for it justified. Everyone can edit it but its even less moderated than wikipedia, so you get all sorts of entries that never actually fit the definition or entries are full of lies. Also, since most people who edit the site are brainlets, almost all entries posted on it are garbage commercial entertainment. The worst pages of them all are the WMG pages which are full of people theorizing how main character is actually gay or some SJW bs. Now, despite the hate, its still useful for finding new stuff to binge at times.

>> No.17726693

>>17726673
Oh, thanks for explaining.

>> No.17726760

>>17726644
>Catcher in the Rye
God, I hate that book.

>> No.17726870

Where do you guys pirate pdfs from?

>> No.17727031

>>17726870
Randomly, I don’t got a specific site.

>> No.17727601

>>17726870
We don’t pirate

>> No.17727795

>>17719656
From the very beginning.

>> No.17727948

how many books do you have in rotation or are reading at one time? i feel autistic because i stick to one at a time.

>> No.17728013

>>17727948
I typically have 1 novel, and a bunch of manga/comics.
Sometimes I will throw in a collection of short stories into the mix.

>> No.17728097

>>17727948
I used to read four at once, each in a different place. but it has been only one since november

>> No.17728597

>>17726870
libgen

>>17727948
I am in a constant process of picking up and dropping 20 different things

>> No.17729584

how to focus while reading non-fiction?

>> No.17729590

>>17729584
I find sitting at a desk while I have my plug in helps me focus.

>> No.17729625

>>17729590
>plug
Impressive. I have to keep my phone in the other room

>> No.17729633

>>17729590
plug in? as in butt plug? as in ear plug (but only one?)? "plug in" as in your dealer is there in your room with you? snus? fireplug?

>> No.17729638

What books do you recommend about influencing people and understanding people's behavior?
I read Cialdini's Influence: the psychology of Persuasion and I liked it. I've been eyeballing Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends... but it seems kinda old, I guess?
Also I don't know if the 48 Laws would be kind of a meme?
The only other one I've ordered so far is Rules for Radicals.

>> No.17730576

>>17727948
usually 1 but currently 2

>> No.17731679

>>17729638
>What books do you recommend about influencing people and understanding people's behavior?
Any modern psychology book, that isn’t a meme book

>> No.17732489

>>17731679
Aren’t all psychological books a meme.

>> No.17732551

Recommend me some social philosophy frens

>> No.17732564
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>>17732551

>> No.17733094

>>17732564
Nice.

>> No.17733459

Any good alternative historical novels.

>> No.17733542

>>17727948
I read one at a time, maybe 2 if the other book is really interesting.

>> No.17733725

>>17704830
pedophile

>> No.17733994

Got a very weird request. No nothing furry or anime. Any fiction titles that are about anything like people training/using knowledge/self-improvement etc to "enlighten" or something like that? I know it's pretty out there but I'm in the mood for something unique.

>> No.17734249

>>17707797
all the other answers were retarded. humans on average are a lot stupider than anyone is willing to admit. you needed to be about 115 IQ just to write coherent paragraphs and understand books at all, in even the most basic sense. anything below that is essentially a monkey. the answer is people are simply too stupid to understand a book. if you could teach a monkey a handful of words, enough for it to seem like it might understand language, could you hand it shakespeare and expect it to understand? that's the average person looking at a novel. even most people who read are only reading at a superficial level. even the larger part of authors, by which i mean "people who write novels" and not "classical authors of /lit/core", even of these most are monkeys writing at a superficial level, trying to throw enough words at a manuscript to give the appearance of a novel. you end with an empty long mess of garbage under which lies nothing at all, but the other monkeys (these monkeys being literary agents) are not themselves smart enough to tell a true work of literature from a monkey's crude attempt at assembling a mess of words that appears at surface level to be a novel.

surely someone saved the image.

>> No.17734688

Did the Dr. Suess fiasco bring a bunch of crossboarders to the board? If so, how long until they go away.

>> No.17734712

>>17734688
Yeah, its politics in literature, bound to happened. Give it a week or two.

>> No.17734761

>>17733994
>Any fiction titles that are about anything like people training/using knowledge/self-improvement etc to "enlighten" or something like that? I know it's pretty out there but I'm in the mood for something unique.
Are you talking about inspirational fiction?

>> No.17734781

>>17733459
Read any harry turtledove.

>> No.17734799

>>17705286
Says the tranny.

>> No.17734802
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17734802

>>17734712
>Give it a week or two.
you've been saying that for FOUR FUCKING YEARS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.17734881

>>17733994
Colin Wilson, The Mind Parasites / The Philosopher's Stone (preferably in that order).

>> No.17735047

>>17734802
Just trust the plan.

>> No.17735686

>>17734781
>harry turtledove.
no

>> No.17736745

>>17733725
I don’t understand.

>> No.17736956

>>17734761
No. I'm not.

>> No.17737209

>>17736956
I see.

>> No.17738095

>>17731679
such as?
how can I tell them apart?

>> No.17738130

how do i get good at writing? Is rewriting over and over effective?