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Have you read the Bible? Be honest...

>> No.17786646

>>17786578
I have

>> No.17786654

>>17786646
What is the Word?

>> No.17786659

>>17786654

Jesus Christ is LORD

>> No.17786662

>>17786659
>1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
What was the Word?

>> No.17786665

>>17786578
To 2 Kings. From Mark to Apocalypse (=some apocrypha=)

>> No.17786670

I read Matthew then quit. Matthew was pretty good but i got religion fatigue a few months back and can longer stomach reading that sort of thing

>> No.17786720

>>17786662
Logos

>> No.17786746

>>17786720
Fucken dumb greek scum. Read the word of god, not of greeks.

>> No.17786752

Most of it, used the Oxford Annotated Edition. I go back to chapters I skipped every now and then.

>> No.17786786

>>17786752

I only use the centre for scripture research one online

>> No.17786791

>>17786578
Why does that notebook has filing holes? What's the use here

>> No.17786882

>>17786746
The new testament was written in common Greek though

>> No.17786891

>>17786746
based muslim

>> No.17786909

>>17786791

Filing it in a folder

>> No.17786928

>>17786909
But why would you want to file an entire notebook in a folder? Notebook is in a sense a folder itself

>> No.17786938

>>17786578
Just let me learn greek first

>> No.17786977

>>17786578
Whole thing back to front twice.

>> No.17787070

>>17786928

To keep it with all the other notebooks in the folder

>> No.17787095

>>17787070
That's gay.

>> No.17787896

>>17786578
Read most of it, but not the major prophets.

>> No.17787933

>>17786578
Entire Old Testament and currently reading the Gospels

>> No.17787943

What is the point of copying the Bible by hand?

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>>17787896
but why

>> No.17787960

>>17786659
Based Jesus is God Almighty, equal to the Father and the Spirit.

>> No.17788341

>>17787943
to be like a monk

>> No.17788384

>>17786578
why should I?

>> No.17788416

>>17787943
Helps with memorization. I used to do it too. I would write some of the Psalms over and over until I had them down.

>> No.17788474

>>17786654
The bird

>> No.17788988

>>17788474
now everybody's heard

>> No.17789009

>>17786578
With the KJV.

>> No.17789609

I have a king james version, can I start with the new testament?

>> No.17789706

I have. It was shit. Then again, all works of monotheism are

>> No.17789771

>>17786578
Nigga why are you rewriting the Bible? It's not the Middle Ages anymore, if you need another copy of Bible you just press Ctrl+C Ctrl+V on your computer.

>> No.17789881

>>17789771
He’s ‘suffering’ for brownie points. That’s literally Christianity in a nutshell

>> No.17790124

Read a couple of times through. Now reading the book of Ezekiel.

>> No.17790148

>>17789609
I guess if you really want to. You're skipping a ton of stuff.

>> No.17790154

>>17786578
Genesis and the Gospels of Mark and Matthew. I planned on reading Luke and John on weekends, but exams fucked me hard and I rather waste my little time on the net than reading the word of God.

>> No.17790219

The Gospels are the only books that contain genuine spiritual wisdom and The Gospel of Thomas contains more spiritual wisdom than any of the canonical gospels.

>> No.17790522

>>17786578
>reading a paperback
>copying down entire chapters into a spiral by hand
What are you doing?

Buy this and stop hating yourself https://www.amazon.com/New-Cambridge-Paragraph-Bible-KJ590/dp/0521195012

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>>17786578
>begat

>> No.17791878

>>17790219
I read the Gospel of Thomas but it's confusing

>> No.17792139

Copying the bible in a notebook is some of the most pseud shit ever. You're not even doing anything with it.

>> No.17792160

>>17786662
One of the greatest English sentences

>> No.17792172

>>17786578
Read the OT until 1 Chronicles and the NT until Acts. Then lost interest

>> No.17792343

>>17786662
Thunderbird!

>> No.17792527

>>17789609
You'll miss out on a metric fuckton of references in the Gospels and won't understand them unless you've read the Old Testament. I recommend that you first read one gospel to get a taste of the New Testament, then read the entire Old Testament, then read the rest of the New Testament.

>> No.17792545

>>17786662
Jesus is the living word. There, brainlets be gone

>> No.17792550

No, it's boring.

>> No.17792773

read it every year since 2012

>> No.17792797

>>17787095
It is. Binder folders are also a terrible investment, as they're far too delicate to survive half a semester in a backpack. The only travel they can stand is between the bookcase and a desk in the same office.

>> No.17792861

>>17792527
I'd second that and that first book of the NT you should read is Ephesians. It contains the whole of the essence of Christianity within it. If all the other books were suddenly destroyed, the entirety of Christian doctrine could be reconstructed from this book alone.

>> No.17792967

>>17786746
based, how do christian claim to read the word of God when what you're reading is a translation of a translation, and is not even a first witness account of what happened?
>>17786662
Can you even claim to be Christian if you don't even know what is meant by the Word(Logos/Kalam)?

>> No.17792986

>>17792967
>Can you even claim to be Christian if you don't even know what is meant by the Word(Logos/Kalam)?

Throughout history probably less than 1% of Christians have actually understood it. What's required to be a Christian is conformity with the Nicene Creed.

>> No.17792987

>>17787960
doesn't Jesus prays to his Father in John?

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>>17792986
>conformity with the Nicene Creed

>> No.17793000

Yes

>> No.17793009

>>17792986
And even less than that 1% can differentiate between logos and nous.

>> No.17793031

>>17793009
How is this Christianity and not Greek Philosophy?

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>>17792967
>>17792986
>>17793009
Where can I learn about this stuff?

>> No.17793058

>>17793031
Coptics and Constantinople my bro. Greek philosophy had big influence on Christian theology.

>> No.17793614

>>17788474
lmao family guy reference

>> No.17793619

>>17792992
>if i undermine their faith while calling them kikes It'll work!

Buzz off, Herschel.

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>>17793048
You can look up the answer to any question you have in the Catholic Encyclopedia.

https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09328a.htm

I also recommend Wycliffe's Bible Commentary sitting next to you as you read the KJV. It's very comfy.

>> No.17793687

>>17786578
Not yet, but I plan to read the Old testament in Hebrew (with a translation in my native language side-by-side) next year. Won't be able to do the same with the New Testament since my Greek won't be up to the task by next year, but perhap I'll give the Vulgate a try.

>> No.17794156

>>17786670
>Religion fatigue
If god is real you were smitten when you published this on a public forum

>> No.17794167

>>17792773
This man is an intelligent one

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>>17786578
I have read both Testaments in the KJV translation as well as the New Testament again in the Lattimore translation. I would encourage everyone who has ever read the Bible to also read the works of Josephus, specifically the Antiquities of the Jews.

>> No.17794268

>>17786578
I have, and it's nothing but dull. Job, Ecclesiastes and Proverbs are the only books with literary value

>> No.17794289

>>17794268
you didn’t actually read Samuel or any of the Gospels, apparently, if you don’t think those have literary value

>> No.17794550

>>17794268
If you didn't jerk off to the Song of Songs at least once you're a psuedo.

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17794781

What are the spirits in prison?

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>>17794268
Judith is a great story.

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>>17786578
Of course I have

>> No.17794860

>>17794846
NOREA
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>> No.17794885

>>17794550
Based fawn among the lilies appreciator

>> No.17794921

>>17786578
Never heard of it

>> No.17794926

I'm reading the gospels slowly for pretty much the first time. I'm going through it in a harmony order and making a synesis for myself.

>> No.17794934

words words WORDS

>> No.17794948

I have read the Torah.

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17794964

I have finished it except the deuterocanonical books. I used the 52 weeks Bible reading plan of Michael Coley

>> No.17795146

>>17794921
Kek

>> No.17795150

>>17786578
I am currently reading it. Any suggestions for supplementary material?

>> No.17795154

>>17795150
>Any suggestions for supplementary material?
The Quran

>> No.17795217

>>17795150
Epic of Gilgamesh

>> No.17795442

>>17786578
I have bought and started to read the KJV. I'm not religious but I've started to get interested in Christianity. However as the autistic perfectionist I am I have fallen into the rabbit hole of
>Which translation? They say the KJV isn't accurate (1000+ errors?) and it had to conform to the Church of England.
>Lots of Bibles have their own "revisions" going on
>Apocrypha or no Apocrypha?
>OK so the Catholic bibles were often translated from the Vulgata so I'm getting a translation of a translation
>Ideally you'd need an interlinear version to supplement etc.
>Maybe I should pick another one in one of the languages I speak.
>Maybe I should learn Biblical Hebrew (semi-serious about this since I love Hebrew script)
At the end of the day I'm just reading it and I know it's pretty much the same text for my purposes, but I've got this itch in the back of my head.

>> No.17795617

>>17795442
jesus and everyone in the NT were familiar with and quoted the septaguniant OT

>> No.17796051

>>17795150
Seconding >>17795217
Also, The Gnostic Gospels (Pagels) and The Essential Kabbalah (Matt)

>> No.17796056

>>17794846
Aren't all of Cain's descendants dead in the flood?

>> No.17796175

>>17796056
I asked myself this as well.
Also I have no idea why Noah is so mad at Ham. Is it because he saw him naked and did not cover him but told the other sons instead? I'm missing something here.

>> No.17796202

>>17796056
Yes, it's an obvious contradiction that probably comes from different myths being combined together. Genesis 4:20-22 is quite explicit "Adah bore Jabal; he was the father of those who dwell in tents and have livestock. 21 His brother's name was Jubal; he was the father of all those who play the lyre and pipe. 22 Zillah also bore Tubal-cain; he was the forger of all instruments of bronze and iron."

>> No.17796206

>>17796175
it's means black people don't have shame

>> No.17796335

>>17793656
Thanks anon

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>>17786578
Yes, in vernacular, as well as Greek and Latin... For Hebrew, I'll come back in a decade or so
I've got a few interesting (if old) study books too, and a reference shelf

>> No.17797103

>>17788416
what, you remembered the whole psalm, because you'd copied it? I think you have a particular memory, anon

>> No.17797116

>>17790219
Gospel of Thomas is shit tho

>> No.17797123

>>17793687
What, you know Hebrew well enough to read the Bible, but not Greek? how did that happen?
not being a jerk, just interested, anon

>> No.17797141

>>17794964
I try to read it once a year, using this plan:
http://iteadthomam.blogspot.com/2011/12/lectio-divina-year-long-cycle-according.html
The rest of the website is very good too, if you're interested in Thomism and scholastics

>> No.17797153

>>17786662
>and the word was made flesh

>> No.17797155

>>17795442
Don't get too fussy, anon; why do you want to read it? if it's to read what your ancestors read, then a translation of a translation will do fine, forget the pseuds, who usually know next to nothing about Biblical languages anyway.

>> No.17797264

>>17797097
damn looking good

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>>17797264
Thanks anon; have the next one too, in gratitude for the attention I got

>> No.17797881

>>17797155
I didn't listen to the pseuds, I sort of got there on my own out of curiosity and getting really smitten by Christian literature and art lately. My country is Catholic so I wondered exactly what differences there were between a Protestant Bible and a Catholic one, and then I got caught in the huge discussion of BIble authenticity.
But yes in the end I'm still reading it to tap into the consciousness of the past so I think any Bible will do. Honestly I still came from the very atheist position of "ew reading the Bible" so even just finding out that with a tiny change in attitude I managed to find a lot of value in a book that I would conceptually dismiss is worth reading the whole thing.
Honestly I'm really confused as to why I'm taking the time every day to read a bit of it even when I'm too tired to read.

>> No.17798395

>>17797116
How so?