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Have self help books ever actually helped you?

>> No.17862268

>>17862179
No, but scripture, and Eastern and Greco-Roman philosophy has. Every book on so-called self-help is derivative mush of those texts. If you truly thirst for wisdom and self-help, go directly to the source.

>> No.17862293

>>17862179
I read a bit of this book out of curiosity once. Utterly cringe, how do grown ass people read this book? It's almost as if it was tailored to appeal to 13 year olds but I only see adults reading

>> No.17862307

>>17862268
there is no real difference between the two and pretending like one is "mush" is just a stupid appeal to antiquity. having something reformulated in a contemporary context to modern problems is worthwhile for people and denigrating it blindly is a sign of someone who hasn't gained anything of the "true" thirst for wisdom he purports to have.

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17862339

>>17862179
Vernon Howard, James Allen, and Neville Goddard are all great. They are not really 'self help' like you would think but more New Thought. Not bullshit like The Secret or Think And Grow Rich either. I highly recommend them.
>>17862293
Another symptom of degeneration in the modern world. Every passing generation is weaker and more infantile than the last. It's actually terrifying.

>> No.17862345

>>17862179
My HS crush owns this book.

>> No.17862369

>>17862307
>having something reformulated in a contemporary context to modern problems is worthwhile
You are lulling yourself into a false sense of security when you are trying to cope with modern problems instead of curing the illness itself, especially when these self-help books jettison everything pertaining to Enlightenment and unity with God. These books teach you how to be of the world and not in it.

>> No.17862377

Have these identical threads you keep making about this book and self-help ever helped you?

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17862406

>>17862307
Absolutely childish take, you should be embarrassed. Scripture has endured the test of time by guiding generation after generation, while your average run-of-the-mill self help scam only exists as a cash grab to a gullible market. Supermarkets are full of 'em, they only exist to provide some 40-year-old moms with the fantasy that somehow they can turn their dysfunctional lives around. The authors of this shit will never be remembered for making useless, disposable books.

>> No.17862440

>>17862307
I'm not convinced: the ancients would use maxims as a simplified version of their philosophy - a digest version of a coherent and bigger system. In comparaison, self-help is full of books taking 400 pages to explain the most simple things (Deep Work: you need to stay focused, cut off distractions, work in big chunks of scheduled Time, this is the full book), full of discussable if not harmful ideas (any book about gifted kids is a minefield of wrong facts based on misunderstood studies). Work harder, sleep faster, give it your 120%, work smarter... Most of it is very shallow and copying from other sources to make a quick buck.

>> No.17862750

>>17862369
>pov you are 15

>> No.17862807

>>17862179
"The ego and it's own" by Max Stirner.

>> No.17863303

>>17862807
based