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Does /lit/ really?

>> No.17949002
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>>17948993
I'm never suprised by all the brainlets that shit out their hot and moist and smelly takes

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>>17948993

>> No.17949486

To imply my spirit/a non-existent spirit is a superior being/ideal being to myself is spooked beyond measure. I am perfect all together, I am All-In-All.
These philosophers forget that it is I who thinks, I who experiences reality, and I who interprets reality. My spirit is merely a fragment of me, it is not I.

>> No.17949488

>>17948993
Cioran is pretty good desu.

>> No.17949498

>>17948993
There are seriously large differences between the philosophies of the top books and the bottom. The top are generally whiney and conceited, whereas the bottom are sober reflections and actual solutions to the problem of life (life conceived in a more than mere-material sense which the top books conceived of it).

>> No.17949507

Where does Cicero say that?

>> No.17949566 [DELETED] 

>>17949498
Top lived tranquil lives and your just play moving that meme right.

>> No.17949572

>>17948993
Maintaining a steady stream of soijack OPs on a Balinese nail-painting website is a fate that warrants retroactive abortion more than almost any I can imagine: There's no soul to be lost from the outset if one can persist at bureaucratic drudgery like that..

>> No.17949599

Is there any translated Mainlander?

>> No.17949806

>>17949498
hahaha cope

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>muh smart people said something so I must be sad now :'((

>>17949599
Lerne Deutsch, mein Freund.

>> No.17949866

>>17949857
>implying the book you read which resonate with you isn't your inner nature
Faggot.

>> No.17949868

>>17949857
I understand but I remain inactive :(

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>>17949868
same. And that's what makes us sad & depressed, the knowledge that we could live a better, fulfilled life but we don't do anything about it maybe because of short-term pleasures, mental blocks, a disease or just pure laziness. This inaction is what drives me crazy but tomorrow we'll live like today anyway as if we were some 19th century russian novel characters

>> No.17949921

amogus

>> No.17949978

Antinatalism is the only philosophy that looks at both past and future instead of selfish concerns about the immediate present. While other philosophical systems are concerned with optimizing society, personal quest for happiness, and other MEMEME shit, antinatalist quietly points at the sheer mountain of anguish mankind had already went through and asks you to spare the future humans from that.

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>> No.17949995

>>17948993
Zapffe and Mainlander aren't translated so I don't think many people here are reading them to begin with.

>> No.17949999

>i am depressed
wow so profound

>> No.17950005

>>17949992
>>17949999
This sort of opposition doesn't come from reason but from the biological imperative. The majority of people will never be capable of looking this issue objectively, as that requires breaking one's biological programming to some degree, and will have an immediate emotional response like this instead.

>> No.17950008

>>17949999
>'I have a non-life affirming opinion about existing'
>BRO YOU'RE JUST DEPRESSED BRO LOL JUST TAKE SOME MEDS BRO DUDE JUST LIGHTEN UP DRINK SOME ALCOHOL LMAO

>> No.17950009

Anti-natalism is perpetually refuted by the fact that antinatalists are still alive to talk about their shitty beliefs instead of just killing themselves

>> No.17950016

>>17950009
Various antinatalists have killed themselves so your "argument" is thus null.

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>> No.17950045

>>17950042
Natalists support this

>> No.17950061

>>17950009
this bottom IQ take inevitably comes up in every antinatalism thread and I always imagine its poster as a fat guy fixing his glasses anime-style as he solves the captcha

>> No.17950069

>>17950061
They resort to it because they have no actual argument. Point out Mainlander, who committed suicide, and ask them to refute him, and they'll probably say they don't need to bother refuting someone who committed suicide. They'll also deny that this is an ad hominem, but what else can they do when they have no actual argument to present? The natalist is, in the end, nothing more than a slave to his biology.

>> No.17950094

>>17950061
>>17950069
refute me by killing yourselves

>> No.17950100

>>17950061
Antinatalism just is not worth discussing at all.

Its a medical problem, not a philosophy.

>> No.17950104

>>17950094
Refute Mainlander, who hanged himself shortly after publishing The Philosophy of Redemption. If antinatalists must kill themselves for their arguments to hold weight, well, he did it. So there you go. Present your argument.

>> No.17950111

>>17950100
>>17950005

>> No.17950115

>>17950042
why did you show me this

>> No.17950127

>>17950115
It's the reality of the world you live in. That and things much more horrible are done to sentient creatures continually every day.

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>>17950127
This, the world is monstrously sublime. The world is beautiful with all its agony and its beauty. Hare Krishna.

>> No.17950154

>>17950005
>>17950111
You have it backwards my friend.
The broken biological programming came before the intellectualisation of antinatalism. Which is obvious.

Which makes it, by definition, a medical problem.

>> No.17950173

>>17950154
Biological programming is an "is" not an "ought."

>> No.17950183

>>17950173
English is not my first tongue. Please use adequate language.

>> No.17950186

>>17950173
>Biological programming is an "is" not an "ought."
Wrong.

>> No.17950201

>>17950183
>>17950186
An urge to do something does not create a moral obligation to do something. If your biological programming created "oughts" then every time you felt sexually attracted to a woman you would be obligated to rape them.

>> No.17950213

>>17950201
"Moral obligations" are mere urges of a different (non-sensual) kind, which still belong to one's biological programming.

>> No.17950214

>>17950142
anon I come to /lit/ I am a sensitive person please don't post gross stuff, it makes my hearth do weird bumps please thank

>> No.17950218

>>17950214
Sorry anon, I really am, but I'm trying to get banned. If you can report me that would be great.

>> No.17950221

>>17950213
They still don't obligate you in any way unless you allow them to. We don't have any sort of obligations that exist objectively.

>> No.17950316

>>17950042
Is it for chicken nuggets or cat food? Kind a weird that they don't burn the feathers nor separate the egg shells from the meat.