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>Wagner was far from satisfied with the first Bayreuth Festival; Cosima recorded that months later, his attitude towards the productions was "Never again, never again!" Moreover, the festival finished with a deficit of about 150,000 marks.
>This was equivalent at the time to about $37,500.

>> No.17949370

>>17949143
Not all of them, Marx made gains with stonks, but like a typical /biz/ shitposter, never made any serious money due to being unemployed and therefore having too low capital for real gains.

>> No.17949375

>>17949370
>brings up Marx as an example of a writer who wasn't bad at money
Anon...

>> No.17949389

>>17949375
He was good with money, he just didn't have too much of it due to being too based to ever get a real job.

>> No.17949403

>>17949389
Anon he had an endless supply of money from his friend Engels, and would continually spend unheard of amounts weekly on fine wine and gambling. He's one of the worst spendthrifts in history.

>> No.17949430

>>17949389
He married into money, and blew the money her parents gave them as a wedding gift by giving it away to anyone who asked, and he also mooched off of Engels. Not to mention he let three of his kids starve to death.

>> No.17949483

>>17949403
>>17949430
Literally nothing wrong with that. It's absolutely the correct way to spend your money when you have virtually endless amounts of it.

>> No.17949487

Artists, in general, are notoriously bad with money. Probably because the mental processes that allow for the creation of art are generally not related to the mental processes that manage financial decisions prudently.

>> No.17949505

>>17949483
There's nothing wrong with letting your children starve?

>> No.17949679

>>17949143
Is this from a Nietzsche biography? I swear I've read this exact paragraph before, and I've never read anything specifically about Wagner...

>> No.17949738

>>17949143
>be Wagner
>call Nietzsche's new aphoristic style Jewish and say it comes from Paul Ree
>Paul Ree got it from Schopenhauer's Parerga and Paralipomena
Was Wagner retarded?

>> No.17949920

>>17949487
I guess it's also because art in a lot of artist's minds require someone to live a life or have deep thoughts about everything, and to many that seems to revolve around partying, drinking, drugs and gambling, or being completely health obsessed...or being obsessed about topics in general.

Great writers rarely seem like anyone normal at the end of the day, maybe all that studying or imagination gets to them, sure, many seem fine, but you only need to find one strange comment or belief from them to see things fall apart.

Though there are responsible sane ones, but it seems they rarely make what you would call classic books that will be loved through history, or even mass selling books that are mediocre but somehow get attention from millions of readers, they all seem to fall into some controversy sooner or later.

>> No.17949934

>>17949143
Does lindybeige post here?

>> No.17949972

>>17949483
I really hope you will never have someone or something to take care of, for your sake.

>> No.17949981

>>17949972
>runs out of arguments and tries to clamber on the moral high horse.

>> No.17949994

>>17949981
I'm not trying to argue. This is also my first reply in this thread. You are a child.

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17950002

>>17949981
>logical fallacies rule all debates!

>> No.17950436

>>17949143
Goethe held an administrative position, supossedly extremely efficient with money.

>> No.17950452

>>17949143
Spinoza was obsessed with handling his shitty pay. If he accepted all the money that his fans were willing to give him, he probably wouldn't have died so young.

>> No.17950484

>>17949483
Funny how you immediately changed your point from,
>he was good at handling money
>yeah he was bad a handling money nothing wrong with that
you disingenuous fuck.

>> No.17950498

I don’t know. I can’t bring myself to care about things like budgets, 401Ks, and market investing, which is ironic because I have a degree in economics and my day job is in finance.

>> No.17950501

You’ve got to love money to make money. You have to have it on your mind constantly.

>> No.17950740

>>17950501
Not really, you just need to produce something worth paying for.
Since people >120IQ don't like philosophy all that much, philosophers' works are usually the result of thoughts that most people could have given enough time, which meant that they weren't really worth much money.

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17950749

>>17950740
>t.

>> No.17950782

But I’m an accountant.
Do you think I could sell my services to writers?

>> No.17950791

>>17950749
what a handsome jewish man, I bet he accomplished a lot in his life :^)

>> No.17950827

>>17950749
>implying philosophers are smart enough to be able to understand money

>> No.17951643

>>17949143
Writers seem to have a more advanced understanding of the finite, and they know that you will one day run out of life, so you may just as well run out of money before then.

>> No.17952898

>>17949934
Based lindybeige poster