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Now that the dust has settled, was he right?

>> No.17968360

>>17968349
Of course incels are right. That doesn't mean it isn't fun to shit on them.

>> No.17968378

>>17968349
Can we get a QRD?

>> No.17968408

>>17968378
It boils down to genetic determinism. But the woke mainstream denies it and tells you that you can rectify your shitty genes by being nice and dressing neatly. But thats bullshit. The thots swarm to chads even when they are rapists or child murderers.

>> No.17968421

>>17968349
Incels are so fucking based, imagine being literally THE ONLY GROUP UNDER THE SUN that makes EVERYONE incoherent, foaming-at-the-mouth angry just by pointing out shit that everyone knows to be true. They don't need to lie, they don't need to do anything, all they need to do is to merely exist in a conspicuous manner to be the only ones not catered to by anyone in [current year]. Reactionaries have people pandering to them, lefties obviously have the entire mainstream media to pander to them, tr00 lefties have their little clicks that people acknowledge as being a valid thing, it's incels alone who are able to cause so much outrage with so little.

Incels are the new faggots, and only through their repressed drives shall we usher in a new Golden Age of the Arts.

>> No.17968440

>>17968408
It depends no? Sure there are hideous incels which fall in the category you describe, but surely there are some that aren’t ugly and can change with modifications to appearance and behaviour? I was an incel till 20 so not too bad but I forced myself to be more outgoing and I can get laid quite frequently and I’m an average looking guy

>> No.17968515

>>17968440
Maybe for some but the reasons they deny genetic determinism run much deeper than the whole incel thing, They can't have it that everyone is using their genes as an excuse for everything so they must deny the importance of genes outright and blame everything in environment and upbringing. They even tried the 'blank slate' nonsense theory but had to withdraw it as unscientific.
Genetcs are everything. The variations are tiny but they make pigs pigs, lions lions or niggers niggers.

>> No.17968666

>>17968408
Both ends don't get nuance and I hate it

>> No.17968673

>>17968666
Based satan

>> No.17968683

>>17968421
Agreed. I’m not even an incel but it’s hilarious to see how them pointing out data makes people seethe uncontrollably.

>> No.17968698

>>17968421
>Incels are so fucking based

All of this and still no gf.

>> No.17968701
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>>17968683
>I’m not even an incel

>> No.17968714

>>17968701
I have had sex.

>> No.17968730

>>17968714
based

>> No.17968735

>>17968408
>But thats bullshit.
if it's bullshit how come incels exist?

>> No.17968741

>>17968408
That isn't true because woman aren't excluded from the genepill due to lack of money or height

>> No.17968776

When did the word virgin get replaces by incel?

>> No.17968853

>>17968776
The "Who am I/what am I meant for" I identity crisis that used to last 2 weeks and occur at age 9 between the moment your mother would stop cuddling you and the moment your father would have you start working on the family farm now lasts a good 20 years, and our generation of narcissistic manchildren need new words to name old truths in order to feel they're saying something special

>> No.17968866

>>17968776
When the value of sex has run amok in social media and entertainment industry. Everything is being pulverized into looks and how much sexual experience you have.

>> No.17968873

>>17968776
All incels are virgins but not all virgins are incels

>> No.17968877

>>17968853
>manchildren
How come only men are expected to take responsibility for themselves. Break the indoctrination son.

>> No.17968928

>>17968877
Because you’re supposed to pay taxes so Chad’s accidental spawns can get taken care of by the state and you will be happy about it

>> No.17968940
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>>17968928
I cannot wait until we are able to remove the desire to COOM and BREED from all people.
It's done nothing but shit things up.

>> No.17968959

>>17968928
That is why I hate the whole Chad concept. Getting laid does not make you alpha if you can't provide. If you can provide then go ahead, call yourself an alpha. But if you're just some 6'3 retard you woman fawn over at school then fuck off.

>> No.17968968

>>17968959
*who woman

>> No.17968973

>>17968959
Alpha fucks beta bucks, it’s only lately the playing field has been tilted and you are asked to be blind about it

>> No.17968979

>>17968877
don't be thick. If the word man can encompass both males and females, i dont see why the term manchild couldn't as well. Womanchild is too long, it sounds off

>> No.17968986

>>17968979
Nobody uses it to describe woman. A female equivalent of a manchild would be a brat

>> No.17968988

>>17968979
Taking responsibility only applies to man

>> No.17968995

>>17968959
Thots don't care about providing. idiot. Why do you think the athletic dindu unemployed ex-con is getting all the pussy and not the nerdy accountant with a stable income ?

>> No.17969011

>>17968959
Oh? Because you value monogamy higher than unrestricted procreation?
The genes of a promiscuous and attractive male thrive in the current climate and women enabling it not only by their behavior but also by the policies enabled by their voting patters might very well end civilization in a few generations.
A single mother civilization cannot function and they should. Single mothers should be shunned since the vast majority of all divorced are initiated by women and because women also favor unfaithful men.

>> No.17969012

>>17968995
Because the government is corrupt and enables/promotes it

>> No.17969067

>>17968421
>shall we usher in a new Golden Age of the Arts
It feels good to know that I was right in believing that some people already figured out that this character exists. He already knows that you know about him and that is his main inspiration. People like you are keeping him alive, sane and morally good and soon you will harvest the fruits of that by simply believing in these earthly saviors

>> No.17969083

>>17968741
men and women are not equal. never will be.

>> No.17969089

>>17969083
Ya and that's why the current feminist policies are unfair

>> No.17969120

>>17968408
How can this book claim to have a shred of truth if it doesn’t at least acknowledge the rapid changes in the social and dating market that have taken place in the last century at a societal level? Has it really not occurred to anyone that it might be the primary problem?

>> No.17969154

>>17969120
You obviously haven't read it. There is a whole chapter about Tinder or whatever this crap is called nowadays.

>> No.17969166

Dataclysm.

>> No.17969174

>>17969067
Sometimes I daydream about an underground elite

>> No.17969234

>>17969174
Kantbot talked about that a lot, there are people working together while don't even knowing each other personally

>> No.17969243

>>17968360
KEK
Anyone who self identifies as an incel deserves to be made fun of.

>> No.17969321

>>17969243
that's almost 100% of their problem. they've made being unfuckable a part of their identity. think of the psychological damage that would do after a while

>> No.17969443

>>17969321
only the crazy ones, the reasonable people out of them become post-incels with a heavy focus on materialist philosophy transcending their own suffering as just another expression of biological determinism

>> No.17969449

>>17968408
There is truth to what you are saying, but you are also wrong.

>> No.17969468

The real question is, how do you cure blackpilled people?

>> No.17969542

>>17969468
white-pills, maybe un-blackpill-pills

>> No.17969559

>>17969468
get them off the internet for an extended period of time

>> No.17969629

>>17968408
Also false. It has to do with society.
Before society you could just go raid another tribe and rape their daugthers even if you were a gruesome looking fucker.
It has nothing to do with genes. It has to do with society.

>> No.17969636

>>17968666
Indeed. Schools need to teach DBT or something

>> No.17969716

What's with all these virgins getting angry/worked up about something which they have no idea how good/bad it is. These people aren't any better than the "chad" which they seem to believe to be some sex-obsessed retard; it's just that, different from the guy that knows if it's worth his time and that can get it if he wants, they are seething about their lack of it.
They are even greater subhumans than any "nigger" could ever be. I genuinely feel uncomfortable knowing that these people are browsing the same site as I am.
There existed so many generations of virgins who either chose not to have sex or simply went to the nearest brothel instead of doing all this retarded bullshit; what went wrong that more and more retards choose to blame the world for not giving them a hot chick that wants to fuck them without them having to pay for it (what's next? Do they start shooting up schools if not enough supermodels come begging for their cock?)?

>> No.17969781

>>17969716
Because it is shoved in their face 24/7 simple as that.

>> No.17969805

lookism is absolutely a filter through which many things can be viewed and class analysis, anti-racism, animal rights, and a billion other things are left incomplete without addressing the snap visual judgements that people make about every person they see, it intersects with virtually every facet of every living thing's experience on this planet.

but you will have less luck actually pursuing this line of inquiry than any other ideology in human history, normies are absolutely awash in a sea of coomer delusion and brain chemicals that make them resistant to the idea that they are just ooga booga cumbrains who evaluate everything based on sexuality and a sadistic conqueror's impulse. incels should realize that there is a limitation to words, and waste less of their energy on yelling at a brick wall.

>> No.17969811

>>17968349
what annoys me about the word “INCEL“ is that it doesn’t refer to people who are actually celibate. It refers to people who don’t engage in sex with women. Moreover, it seems that it only refers to men. So as a new word, it seems to actually refer to people who are involuntarily prevented from having sexual intercourse With women while being a Mail. This actually doesn’t have a whole lot to do with celibacy because traditionally celibacy is a voluntary choice to refrain from all sexual activity. And furthermore, celibacy is traditionally available to men, women, and children. So my take on this word is that it is really about trying to undermine existing definitions of words and defend new definitions through a variety of childish means. So it’s really more about letting children use words without feedback according to the traditional definitions of words. Madness.

>> No.17969870

>>17968349
Self-fulfilling prophecies usually are right
Similarly my bloomer, go-getter, life affirming attitude is true for me, yielding stellar results

>> No.17969895

>>17969870
>Similarly my bloomer, go-getter, life affirming attitude is true for me, yielding stellar results

You're a bloomer go-getter because you're not lacking anything romantically, not the other way around.

>> No.17969967

>>17969716
>the "sex doesn't actually matter" card even though it's universally considered the most pleasurable experience and every normalfag gets antsy about not having it within a couple of weeks let alone an incel's entire lifetime and the entirety of Western society basically revolves around sex
>nigger in qoutations
>"genuinely feel uncomfortable" about virgins... on 4chan
This poster is a woman until proven to be a tranny.

>> No.17969973

>>17969895
No, it's the other way around, I fucking swear. Not him but I had confidence and a "go-getter, life affirming attitude" before I got my romantic (and subsequently sexual) life together. You suffer from victim mentality.

>> No.17970023

Not on libgen. Why come blackpill books ain't free?

>> No.17970052

>>17969967
>it's universally considered the most pleasurable experience
Are you delusional? It's physically not that much better than jacking off. It can possibly be emotionally with the right person, but that isn't what 90% of incels actually talk about. What an empty world do you live in that you could honestly talk about something you've never experienced as if it were heaven on earth kek.

>> No.17970071

>>17969967
>the most pleasurable experience
high grade LSD feels 10x better than sex

>> No.17970101

>>17970071
this. I never did drugs but so many people claim that doing drugs was the most meaningful experience of their lives and better than sex

>> No.17970153

>>17970052
>>17970071
I said "universally *considered*", which in other words means it's the most pleasurable experience according to most people. Which it is; you are the delusional one if you are going to argue the average normalfag wouldn't go insane if they suddenly couldn't have sex for the rest of their lives.
>It can possibly be emotionally with the right person, but that isn't what 90% of incels actually talk about.
Most incels care about being in a relationship as well as sex. Why do you think nearly all of them are so adverse to prostitutes? Their motto is
>tfw no gf
and not
>tfw no sex
for a reason. The no sex part is just the baseline that both the wannabe coomer and the failed romantic incels share in common.

>> No.17970191

>>17970153
most people are dumb dumbs

>> No.17970213

>>17968776
incel says more than virgin
incel is an involuntary virgin

>> No.17970227

>>17969895
That you need to have sex to get your life together is automatically true when you believe it

>> No.17970252
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17970252

The incel phenomenon is the most refined evidence of what Max Weber called the "iron cage" of modernity. After modernity everything became rationalized, and everything has to be rational, so much so that people put themselves into knots trying to explain something is mysterious and random as love through reason alone.

The reality is that while incels might have certain facts on their side, that doesn't mean average and even ugly people don't fall in love and have great relationships all the time. They demonstrably do, and the reason I know is that most people are painfully average in every way and yet they get married and have children all over the world.

>> No.17970258

>>17970101
In the moment it does, but it doesn't create the sort of memories and associations that actually shape your consciousness and life. Drugs feel like something, but are nothing. Going on a date or cracking a joke feels like nothing, but it is everything.

I learned this the hard way. There is nothing worthwhile in drugs. LSD in particular caused me permanent vision problems that brought me close to suicide after 2 usages (spread widely apart). It doesn't happen to everyone, but it can happen - and I assure you that I would not wish my problems on anyone. It is pure pain.

>> No.17970281

>>17970252
Love is neither mysterious or random. There are mountains of scientific papers on the phenomenon of love and many if not most confirm what incels are saying.

>> No.17970297
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17970297

Why do incels tend to be men
Why do incels not tend to be women
Why is it mainly a male phenomenon

>> No.17970309

>>17968421
Wow, never seen an Incel go on a bigger cope than this.
Normally they just admit things suck, but you, you have reached a new level of delusion-

>> No.17970319

>>17970252
>ugly people don't fall in love and have great relationships
Not true. Relationships between ugly people are born from cope and will never be great.

>> No.17970330

>>17970281
Love is definitely mysterious and random. Just because a scientific study can say with some accuracy what men and women are attracted to physically, doesn't mean those people will end up in relationships with precisely the kinds of people they have in their dreams.

>> No.17970345

>>17970319
Sounds like projection anon.

>> No.17970350

>>17970258
>Drugs feel like something, but are nothing. Going on a date or cracking a joke feels like nothing, but it is everything.
deep bro

>> No.17970361

If inceldom is such a "scientific worldview" and they have "all the facts on their side" why are they so fucking bitter?

After all, it's just SCIENCE™.

>> No.17970410 [DELETED] 

>>17970345
Nah. Just grew around ugly people and then as young adult met and got better looking friends. The difference in the relations is quite big. For one, uglier people have less respect for their So >>17970330
since they know they would have a hard time getting into another relationship.

>> No.17970425

>>17970330
>Just because a scientific study can say with some accuracy what men and women are attracted to physically
*thousands of scientific studies
*high accuracy
*physically and by extension personality-wise due to the interplay between physical attraction and the perception of one's "personality"
>doesn't mean those people will end up in relationships with precisely the kinds of people they have in their dreams.
Right. You think that is somehow proof love is "mysterious and random"? That's literally just called "settling" and being in a transactional type relationship.
Continue to cope.

>> No.17970430

>>17970410
>Just grew around ugly people

Wow, such stellar evidence.

>> No.17970448

>>17970425
Everything incels say about relationships is also true about worklife, does this mean you should stop trying to get a job? If so, this is just the ideology of being a liberal child.

>> No.17970453

>>17968349
This is the biggest cope I have ever seen.
They will do anything, but brush their teeth, get a haircut and an interesting personality.
Instead they want everything in life handed to them. Fucking bitches.

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>>17970448
>does this mean you should stop trying to get a job?
Yes.

>> No.17970471

>>17970453
>interesting personality
Unironically, how?

>> No.17970472

>>17970460
Right, so inceldom is basically just pathetic nihilism, and all "the facts" are just concealing a refusal to grow the fuck up.

>> No.17970475

>>17968421
>being a basement dwelling loser is cool!

>> No.17970487
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>>17970472
>hurr durr just grow up you idiots

>> No.17970497

Imagine being so pathetic you don't even fit on 4channel
I don't have to

>> No.17970505

>>17969629
yeah too bad we don't live in the Pleistocene anymore.

>> No.17970511

>>17970487
This graph is true but alot of you really do need to grow up

>> No.17970515

>>17970471
>sit inside for a week and browse 4chan
>meet girl
>she asks what you do

Now compare this to
>go to school and meet friends
>read interesting books
>do sports or activities outside
>play an instrument
>work on a personal passion project as a hobby
>have lot of interesting things going on that you can tell girls about

Honestly its just about living life. Most incels just sit inside, shitposting their teens and 20's away, and getting mad when they slowly realize how much of their life they have wasted.

>> No.17970522

>>17970487
Do you actually think any of those men even try to get laid? I bet 90% of them could if they tried, but we both know they are too busy playing Fortnite and watching trannyporn instead.

>> No.17970526

>>17970475
Yes.

>> No.17970537

>>17970526
At least put your misery towards something productive, like writing or painting, faggot.

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>>17968421
Just wait for the same butthurt normalfags to have incel children and be unable to do anything about it.

>> No.17970563

>>17970472
"Grow up" for what, exactly? You act like there is any incentive to do so. Decades ago becoming a man meant you get to own a house with a wife and children in a high trust society with good employment opportunities. Now you rent an apartment with a whore and a furbaby in a niggerfied society with the "opportunity" to be a minimally paid wageslave.
People don't act without incentive and there is zero incentive to be an active part of society as the average or below average male.

>> No.17970564
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17970564

>>17970522
>just go out and talk to girls bro

>> No.17970572

>>17970564
>a chart he found online stops him from talking to girls
Why are modern "men" so fucking pathetic?

>> No.17970577

>>17970515
>go to school and meet friends
Already did.
>read interesting books
Already do
>do sports or activities outside
I do PPL and beekeeping with my dad I guess
>play an instrument
I play bass
>work on a personal passion project as a hobby
I'm working on two programming projects, one web related and one game.
>have lot of interesting things going on that you can tell girls about
Yeah I guess it's not working since most people aren't interested in what I'm interested. I can talk a lot about my profession, my game, the sengoku jidai or faulkner, you think people ever give a shit? What you're asking for actually is for me to change my interests to appeal to people.

>> No.17970580

>>17970572
post feet

>> No.17970582

>>17970564
Again, why should you not do it simply because of statistics you fucking retarded manchild?

Do you also not drive a car because of car accident statistics? Walk outside because of mugging statistics? Jesus Christ you are actually retarded and low-IQ. You know, maybe it's actually a good thing you don't breed.

>> No.17970601

>>17970582
>Do you also not drive a car because of car accident statistics?
unironically yes. fuck driving

>> No.17970612

>>17970601
>implying you're not just a lazy cunt and cba getting a driver's license

>> No.17970621

>>17970577
>gaymen
>muh samurais
You have to stop being a child first tho

>> No.17970625

>>17970563
I'm sorry your life isn't going as planned

>> No.17970628

>>17970577
>What you're asking for actually is for me to change my interests to appeal to people.
If this is how you argue in real life, then no wonder people dont find you interesting. Nobody likes a whining loser.
You have hobbies and are active, great. Now you just need to be outgoing and actually put yourself in situations where you meet and talk to new people, and ask them questions about their life and talk about random shit.
Many of your hobbies are alone it seems, you need to get yourself out and into situations where you talk to new people, how else are you going to find a girlfriend?

>> No.17970667

>>17970577
>you think people ever give a shit
Sometimes they do though. Every serious relationship I've ever had, we got to know eachother through shared or related interests

>>17970582
>low-IQ
Neurotic fearfulness is an upper midwit trait

>> No.17970677

>>17970563
Very shocking that the useless excuse for a human being blames his problems on race as well.

>> No.17970684

>>17970515
>>go to school and meet friends
>>read interesting books
>>do sports or activities outside
>>play an instrument
>>work on a personal passion project as a hobby
>>have lot of interesting things going on that you can tell girls about
You as a weirdo have to do all this shit while your average normalfag maybe only does the first one lmao. There's nothing fundamentally wrong with you though bro

>> No.17970689

>>17970628
This. One must either accept what it takes to get to know people or refuse to change/put in the time and have decided to value something else above it. You can't avoid the situations/steps necessary to get to know someone and still complain about not having a gf

>> No.17970696

>>17968986
Wrong, it would be a woman.

>> No.17970701

>>17970684
most do at least several of those

>> No.17970784
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17970784

>me waiting for normgroids to refute inceldom with an argument that doesn’t boil down to ”take 3 showers a day”

>> No.17970796

>>17970515
Read the book, roastie.

>> No.17970808

>>17970701
Most people don't read, no need for stats.
Only 26% of 26-49 year olds play sports
2012 National Endowment for the Arts survey found that just 12 percent of U.S. adults were playing musical instruments.
No need for stats in the passion project, you know most people are tired after wageslaving.
Nice "most" definition you got there.
>have lot of interesting things going on that you can tell girls about
Almost never related to hobbies or sports. Literally just talk about your relationships with other people (gossip). That's what incels have problem to being with.
You just don't get it anon.

>> No.17970817

>>17970784
Lick my stinky balls, I shower 3 times a week at most and still manage to get laid

>> No.17970825

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PESYQ6TGwhQ

>> No.17970839

>>17970817
Congrats bro, you just grasped the point

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No one cares

>> No.17970865

>>17970677
Which problems? Niggers are entirely irrelevant when it comes to anything dealing with sex, either for myself or most people in general. Only a loud minority of coalburners unironically think niggers are attractive. Besides I don't live around niggers. Economic? Same as above, no niggers taking any job opportunities. For me niggers are a cultural issue, I'm tired of seeing niggers in media, overhearing nigger music, and normalfags talking about niggers. All remedied by simply not paying attention to it, which I don't until someone brings up why I don't participate in the rest of society.

>> No.17970897

>all the roasties in the thread clawing away realising they might lose their free meal tickets

>> No.17970903

>>17970808
Easily explainable: Most people don't have sex but pretend they do. It's all a big farce

>> No.17970914

>>17970903
Holy cope.

>> No.17970935

>>17970903
males*
FYFY.
Because women don't need to do absolutely anything in this list to have sex. >>17970515

>> No.17970989

I have an Incel friend. He deserves it. He falls in love with 9/10 women that work out in the gym and take care of themselves, and then he expects them to fall in love with him, he who never cared one bit about his looks. He is tall and has a handsome face underneath all the fat. All he needs to do is chisel that statue, but he is a lazy, gluttenous pig.

>> No.17971004

>>17970989
>I know one retard
Wow, such stellar evidence.

>> No.17971012

>>17970989
Posts like these make me realize that we need a new term to differentiate between retards, literal psychopaths and reasonable people that can't get laid / are deconstructing human interaction

>> No.17971020

>>17970052
>but that isn't what 90% of incels actually talk about.
Yes, it is. It's why they reject prostitution as a viable solution.

>> No.17971024

>>17970989
have you tried helping your "friend" out of his inceldom or do you just talk shit about him behind his back on the internet?

>> No.17971029
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17971029

Today I will remind them

>> No.17971077

>>17971029
Is that who I think that is?

>> No.17971078

>>17971024
Yes.
He complains to me, I tell him we can work out together, go for trips, whatever. But he only wants to complain, not actually do anything about it. Therefore Im angry with him about this.

>> No.17971127

>>17971029
>Today I will remind them
omg wtf is this

>> No.17971138

>>17970297
Men propose, women dispose.

>> No.17971139

>>17971029
Niggas thirsty, damn

>> No.17971476

>>17970281
cringe

>> No.17971493

>>17970582
>He doesn't use statistics to predict future possibilities

>> No.17971505

>>17968408
I can’t agree.
I was a massive nerdy outcast who couldn’t talk to girls without having a panic attack all through my teenage years.
Alcohol came into the picture and I realised I COULD interact with them. Stopped needing it and went to the gym and dressed well, made cooler friends.
Am now chad

>> No.17971519

>>17971505
How does this disprove genetic determinism?

>> No.17971862

>>17970297
women are incels too men are just more vocal about it. FDS is full of them there is also an image board

>> No.17971888

>>17968666
tripsd of truth

>> No.17972355

>>17970515
>go to school and meet friends
check
>read interesting books
interesting to me
>do sports or activities outside
D1 athlete
>play an instrument
piano
>passion project
do sports count?
>have a lot of interesting things going on
see above. still incel

>> No.17972505

>>17970515
>go to school and meet friends
I don't like people in general. Being alone is easier because I only have to care about myself
>read interesting books
I read what I like, eat shit faggot.
>do sports or activities outside
Excercise 3 times a week, recently decided to do a different muscle group each day.
>play an instrument
Guitarrist and Bassist since 15
>work on a personal passion project as a hobby
I learn languages and do my best efforts at translation
>have lot of interesting things going on that you can tell girls about
Sometimes I do talk to women, some do find me interesting, I just don't care about them enough to gift them my time.

>> No.17972508

>>17968408
Post a picture of yourself
You can talk about all the nice deformed guys with burn scars and no ears who can't find love and the 10/10 perfect models who are bad people that mentally ill women flock to but the fact of the matter is the vast majority of people are not on either of those extremes.

>> No.17972521

incels deserve to be executed by the state. contemptible little worms

>> No.17972525

>>17972355
You have an active social life but are still an incel?
How old are you?

>> No.17972529

>>17969468
You can't cure them of the truth, but you can encourage them to rise above it.

>> No.17972547

>>17968959
>Getting laid does not make you alpha if you can't provide
Holy cope

>> No.17972558

>>17970564
I thought that online dating only worked for "Chads". Are 40% of men Chads now?

>> No.17972572

>>17968349
Obviously, it's not very difficult to prove incels right because they have so much data supporting their ideas. Normalfaggots work off anecdotes and so they think everyone is going to be just like them, they don't fully understand the weight of the data or the underlying reason behind why incels are where they are. I blame single mothers and deadbeat dads for the increase in incels.

>>17968360
(You) will never be a woman

>> No.17972575

>>17970564
>Family
Huh?

>> No.17972585

>>17972572
Even if incels were right, the blackpill has to be one of the most self-destructive philosophies one can adopt.

>> No.17972604

>>17968421
>Incels are the new faggots, and only through their repressed drives shall we usher in a new Golden Age of the Arts.

lmao no, incels will never make a worthwhile work of art, because they are, by definition, totally empty human beings who piss their lives away on internet forums. That's why they're incel in the first place. They don't create anything of value, they don't add to themselves or their surroundings, they just fester and CONSOOM, and then have the gall to wonder why others won't give them love and recognition.

>> No.17972628

>>17972604
this. if they were truly creative or interesting they would find a way to get laid

>> No.17972670

>>17970989
>I have an Incel friend
>shitposts about said incel friend in an incel thread on a mongolian throat singing forum

>> No.17972673

>>17972585
It can be a horribly crushing and self-defeatist mentality, but it's also, in a way, enlightening/liberating. Once one truly accepts the blackpill, he accepts that, due to his slim chances at attaining love, he should concert his efforts elsewhere. The options are thus suicide, or to find your passion in life.

I chose the latter; I managed to overcome the blackpill by just not caring about sex and instead focussing on what I thought would be cool to learn and do. I wasn't going to get a gf, according to the stats, so why would I waste so much time trying to better myself for women? Instead, I bettered myself for me. Miraculously, as time went on, and I had passion in life again, women showed an interest in me. It's funny the way things work out, the reciprocal nature of romance.

>> No.17972678

>>17971029
is that eggman? what the fuck

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>>17971029
>just sleep, man

>> No.17972691

The best thing about normalniggers shitting on incels is that they are not exempt of having a manlet retard incel son kek.

>> No.17972692

>>17972604
>lmao no, incels will never make a worthwhile work of art

Post incel art
https://soundcloud.com/thefactthatsomanybooks/i-have-never-seen-a-vagina

>> No.17972695

incels aren't real they're just mentally ill weirdos in a cult

>> No.17972720

>>17969468
Put society on a positive long term trend; So for example, you could cure Chinese blackpillers if they pull of China #1 without tripping at the finish line but people in the United States are just fucked.

>> No.17972736

>>17972575
Families used to do all but official arranged marriages with Friends who also had Families if they noticed one of their Sons was not taking the initiative. Since Americans are retarded they destroyed this system.

>> No.17972746

>>17972692
lmao based

>> No.17972769

>>17968408
This.

Also, the book affirms that height, and height alone is the one damning quality that you can have.

Being under 5'7" is basically a death sentence.

>> No.17972771

>>17971505
Height?

>> No.17972803

I have to ask myself why people have such a a violent reaction towards incels. Is it because the blackpill is too horrendous, too terrifying a reality to live in? Or is it simply as easy as people hating ugly men who aren't complacent little worker bees who genuflect at the presence of the genetically gifted demi-gods?

Either way, we win. The prize? Torture beyond everything that you could ever experience. You will never suffer in a lifetime what an incel goes through in 30 minutes. Be glad. You're so, so lucky.

>> No.17972804

I'm not really sure. I'm 32 and started actively trying to date 2 years ago with very limited results.

I've only managed to have sex with one girl despite going on dates with like 20 other ones. The fact that I managed that at all means maybe there's hope for more to come, but I really feel like there's something in my personality that prevents others from really liking being in my company.

Of course I'm short and bald and overweight too, so that's there as well. I have bad pictures which makes dating apps near useless, too. When I see just how normal and easy it is for most men to have sex and get girlfriends and even regular friends, it makes me wonder just how much of this is out of my control.

I can't make any final conclusion about myself until I finally lose weight and get better pictures. No matter what happens, at least I'm glad I tried despite everything

>> No.17972816

>>17972803
have you considered that maybe ugly, whiny men should fuck off? we hate looking at them, we hate listening to them, so it's only natural that'd we'd hate them. yes. i won at life and you fucking didn't. i had sex without even trying just by doing my own thing. shut the fuck already. you are worthless and your opinion will never be as valuable as mine

>> No.17972817

I don't care about incels. They get some things right and some things wrong(that is just a characteristic to their terminally online existence and string of mental illnesses). When they stay in the realm of sex and sexual relations its fine. Its when they start applying their extremely narrow thought system and ideology to anything outside of that is when I start ridiculing them

>> No.17972846

>>17972817
>When they stay in the realm of sex and sexual relations its fine
I mean, that's all they talk about. The chances of you getting into a relationship is 100% tied to genetics, and nothing else.

If you're referring to the Halo effect or height directly affecting your income, that's also true. Manlets unironically have worse quality of life in 1st world nations than niggers in the mainland China or even just Africa itself. I feel bad for the little creatures.

>> No.17972866

Can someone explain to me how incels are any different from those 'nonbinary' lardgendered tumblristas who pretend to be oppressed all the time? Where the fuck does this obbession with victimising yourself come from? I guess its just more convenient for people to excuse themselves as being pathetic worms under a cosy boot

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>>17972816
https://voca.ro/1fZe0bymTRuQ

>> No.17972876

>>17972866
the difference is that incels are genuinely oppressed. white, bald, manlet uggos are more discriminated against than actual minorities, paraplegics, or downies, or all of them combined.

>> No.17972881

>>17968408
you dont understand a couple of things. one, there are physical chads and mental chads. if you aren't a physical chad, you must be a mental chad, or your genes deserve to die. two, females that are undesirable to physical chads are easily manipulated by mental chads.

>> No.17972887

>>17972870
BASED

>> No.17972897

>>17972881
>females that are undesirable to physical chads are easily manipulated by mental chads.

It's not just the undesirable ones, anon. Women have cheat codes and it boggles my mind how effective they are.

>> No.17972909

>>17968408
“Muh genetics” is a cope for incels the same way fatties use it as cope. They can’t bear to accept responsibility for their shortcomings so they act as if it was beyond their control their entire time

>> No.17972913

>>17972909
What would you do if you woke up tomorrow and you were a 5'3" curry living in the Netherlands?

Genuinely curious.

>> No.17972919

>>17972876
The most powerful people in the world are ugly white men

>> No.17972920

>>17972870
Nice

>> No.17972929

>>17972913
I would start by lifting, reading the classics and playing the piano bro that will get me ton of pussy

>> No.17972955

>>17972919
>just be born rich incel
Hilsrious

>> No.17972961

>>17972919
true. the final pill is for incels to moneymax and become entirely selfish creatures. lots of great men have been motivated by their shortcomings.

>> No.17972969

>>17972804

Genuinely looking for advice here lads. How do I learn how to be more fun to be around? I feel like I'm just boring and a downer, not exciting and cool. I've been this way my whole life. I don't get nervous around women but that's not enough

>> No.17972976

>>17972969
Hit the gym. The rest will follow.

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>>17972547
They're still dependent on others which is by definition not alpha. Society could decide to exterminate these children and they would be helpless about it.

>> No.17973037

>>17972976

There are fat ugly guys that get laid way more than me and it's because they're fun to be around. Obviously I want to see what being fit does, but I want to work on everything

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>>17972547
Do you think George Floyd was alpha?

>> No.17973132

>>17970563
You could say the same thing 50 years ago if you looked hard enough. Only now it's become more widespread. By what metric are you measuring this by? You know what people in the 70s did to cope? Buy a sweet ass Cadillac. Why don't you do the same?

>> No.17973144

>>17970577
How does one even begin to learn to program? Hurts my noggin just thinking about it. I know it's all the rage but fuck if I can be bothered to design my own website. The only thing I'd really shake my fist at life for is being so dumb :( Hunchback work is fine by me but boy do I feel sore

>> No.17973153

>>17970563
>>17973132
True, having a nice car will still get you laid

>> No.17973167

>>17968349
Incels are nature’s way of solving the population problem. Incels are the undesirables who are weeded out

>> No.17973171

>>17970684
Gonna fill this out cause this is fun fun fun! :DD

>>go to school and meet friends
Currently off from uni cause of stress, but saw Gozilla vs. Kong with friends, was pretty fun
>>read interesting books
Finally got around to reading books I was supposed to finish in high school, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's nest is cool but fuck Miss Ratched
>>do sports or activities outside
Currently working the front yard, been growing flowers as well
>>play an instrument
Mess around with lmms, don't know any theory but very fun
>>work on a personal passion project as a hobby
Making imaginary transit systems for imaginary cities. Right now I'm making one for a timeline where Newfoundland and Labrador becomes it's own separate country and it a Nordic paradise of the new world.
>>have lot of interesting things going on that you can tell girls about
Uhhh, I like to draw, watching telly, eating out, fuck what else. Pretty much it really

>> No.17973180

>>17973132
>You could say the same thing 50 years ago if you looked hard enough.
I literally agree with you. The Sexual Revolution was in the 60s.

>> No.17973205

>>17972355
Question anon, how the fuck do I play with two hands? Still learning chopsticks and it takes every fiber of concentration to get them shits right. I can do the beginning part but the buh-buh-buh-buh-buh when it diverges

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>>17972846
>If you're referring to the Halo effect or height directly affecting your income, that's also true. Manlets unironically have worse quality of life in 1st world nations than niggers in the mainland China or even just Africa itself. I feel bad for the little creatures.

Holy fuck. Please tell me you are joking

>> No.17973238

>>17970515
what about incels in there 30s? its over

>> No.17973247

>>17973167
This.
I tried to compete but I just can't. just waste my salary on vidya and books nowadays. Buy shit for my chad little brother too.

>> No.17973248

Not disputable, but you know what'd be awesome? That, despite the shit hand you've been dealt or thought you've been dealt, you found other ways to be happy besides complaining. No one likes a downer, and yes, if you're ugly, then you're really the bottom lot.


But if, just for a moment, you decided to take that in stride and just go about being yourself anyway, how much more happier would you be? Imagine being a 3/10 going up to a 9/10 and giving them the shittiest pickup line they ever heard, and then walking off without a single fuck given. If YOU own it, then all control is handed to you.

>> No.17973261

>>17973167
Why are the only undesirables men?

>> No.17973269

After seeing all the butthurt at incels here, I have to agree, they are based. I hope normalniggers get even more angry at them in the future so the incels radicalize even more and starting a vicious cycle of basedness and normalniggers getting killed in mass shootings.

>> No.17973276

Who makes the incels?
Who makes the incels?
I'll tell ya who makes the incels
All the Os
Wino
Spermo
29 year old
Arse-licking hate old
Who makes the incels?
Bad Tele-V
Who makes the incels?
Balding smug faggots
Intellectual half-wits
All the Os
Who makes the incels?
The incels are long horn
Long horn breed
Long horn--Long horn breed
Long horns--Long horn breed
Who makes the incels?
Remember when I used to follow you home from school babe?
Before I got picked up for paedophelia
Who makes the incels?
Motels like three split-level mirages
Who makes the incels?
Buffalo lips on toast, smiling
Who makes the incels?
I put a finger on the weird.
This was real Irish know.
Joe was then good as gold
And told of the rapists in the Spa Motel.
The real mould.

>> No.17973314

>>17971519
"just be confident bro" really does help

>> No.17973326

>>17971077
Yes

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>>17973167
>>17973261
Being "undesirable" to women isn't a marker of being genetically deficient.
>sauce?
Look up Fisherian runaway. We have on record species that have went extinct because of female sexual selection of greatly exaggerated features, e.g. the Irish elk that got fucked by their overselected antlers.
Physical attractiveness is very weakly correlated with healthiness outside of extreme deformities. If genetic health was truly the concern then just as many women should be excluded from breeding as men are. But that clearly isn't the case, webm presented as evidence.

>> No.17973376

>>17973337
>If genetic health was truly the concern then just as many women should be excluded from breeding as men are. But that clearly isn't the case, webm presented as evidence.
Agreed, especially when short women (5 feet tall for example) select for tall men. By their own logic, their genes are inferior.
However, exaggerated male features are a sign of strong hormones which in general is a sign of good overall health. If women didn't seek these traits out, the species might degenerate and die.

>> No.17973391

>>17972558
That’s 40% of men in relationships, not 40% of men.

>> No.17973427

>>17973376
>However, exaggerated male features are a sign of strong hormones which in general is a sign of good overall health. If women didn't seek these traits out, the species might degenerate and die.
You fell for memes. Physical attractiveness and health are very weakly correlated outside of extreme cases. Period. Male and female.
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rsos.160603
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/pdf/10.1098/rstb.2015.0380
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4415372/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4757567/

>> No.17973431

Why do incels call people who disagree with them trannies? Who do you think those trannies were before they were trannies?

>> No.17973433

>>17972604
Seek help.

>> No.17973438

>>17973261
Because when a woman is pregnant, she is “out of commission” for 9 months. A man doesn’t have to wait. A promiscuous male has a larger effect on the population than a promiscuous woman

>> No.17973456

>>17973438
How society does not have many fathers with children from multiple wives

>> No.17973461

>>17973431
Simps

>> No.17973472

>>17973456
That’s exactly what we have though? It’s a bit more even in modern times, but if I recall, 40% of men reproduced and 80% of women reproduced historically.

>> No.17973492

>>17973456
My father had children with 4 different women lol.
Spic btw

>> No.17973528

>>17972585
>philosophies are just products on a shelf

>> No.17973549

>>17969629
Right because society exists in a vacuum and culture spurts from the ground magically

>> No.17973565

>>17968698
If you gave the carrot to the horse, would it still move?

>> No.17973580

>>17973492
Shame

>> No.17973591

>>17973528
The pursuit of truth is a self destructive endeavor. Better to remain ignorant than to foolishly press onwards into the abyss.

>> No.17973611

>>17973248
Will to Delusion.

>> No.17973644

>>17972558
40% of couples anon, not 40% of men. Men who failed to find a gf aren't included on that graph.

>> No.17973663

All the incels are coping and they can’t even see it

>> No.17973689

>>17972913
I would complain on a Thai Basketweaving Subreddit about being "blackpilled" instead of living

>> No.17973696

I just took a lot of bad decisions. Honestly incredible how one person can fuck up so bad

>> No.17973701

>>17973591
All which can be destroyed ought to be destroyed.

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>>17973248

>> No.17973797

>>17969559
So.... ignorance?

>> No.17973810

>>17972803
youre boring whiny psychos who want to control people because you cant get laid

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>>17973427
The evolutionist pseud-eugenics belief in the all-positive "functionality" of sexual attractiveness is very strange, yet I see it every time the subject is mentioned.
Sexual attractiveness has almost fuck all to do with any "functional" aspect. It is often absurd. At best it is "functional" or adapted to conditions completely removed from those of civilization, like women preferring criminals or men with sadistic traits which might have been useful in 50k BC but have been dysgenic since the Neolithic.
Human women sexual selection is just as random as the birds of paradise where males have developed those useless flashy colored wings that makes them easier preys and impede travel.
Male attraction isn't that much better but women do the large majority of the sexual selection even in rapey societies.

>> No.17973896

I might write a fucking incel guide, for all the delusional defeatist cucks in this thread.
I was a former incel, so I know what it takes. Managed to lose my virginity at 18 and then had 2 years of normalcy, until I unlocked Chad status and had sex with 10 women in 2 years after that. Some of them very hot.
Not going to promise these results, but I'm going to promise a better life than spamming stupid charts and contemplating suicide.

>> No.17973899

>>17973896
How tall are you?

>> No.17973904

>>17973810
Projecting there, Chad. That's what you would do if you were ever rejected. Your ego can't take a woman rejecting you. I have healthy friendships with men and women when I'm not shitposting on this board.

>> No.17973906

>>17972803
Because many of them say vile violent things about women

>> No.17973908

>>17971862
Women are incels in the sense that their pre-determined criteria are not met by a large proportion of men. That is to say that they would have sex, if only men would meet their standards, and thus women blame men for not being good enough. I am not saying this sardonically, technically it is a fair reason not to have sex, since I too harboured a belief of the sort for a brief period before getting a gf. Having standards is good so long as they are reasonable.

Men are incels in the same sense, just that their base standards are lower. For example, male incels often rule out prostitutes, rape, and gay/bisexual men, because it's beneath them, but everything else is fine. Others rule out things like ONS or FwB because it doesn't align with their morals. Technically all celibacy is voluntary unless you have a legitimate health problem, or other such restrictions, which physically prevent you from having sex, but for a male, it often doesn't feel voluntary. This is because what the male incel really suffers from is a lack of understanding and a dearth of love and compassion. Incels have been painted as this bogeyman by the media that they are immediately scorned, and thus being an incel in 2018+x is equivalent to being a feminist in 2013+y. You can still be an incel or a feminist, but if you announce it, you will be ridiculed for it, because there is now an archetype associated with the term. Who knows, maybe the general populations' feelings towards incels will evolve over time, much in the same way that people no longer burn witches or cancel communists (as much as they used to). I'm not trying to draw a comparison with inceldom and McCarthyism, but I think if you fall into the trap of letting a single label define you, or your perceptions of a person, you're a moron who is easily manipulated. Whether that label is incel, leftist, right wing, feminist, black, white, american, russian, chinese, epic gamer, based chad, cringe chud, tranny, janny etc... is irrelevant. If you categorise people, including yourself, into being just one thing, and you immediately associate all the positives or negatives of that thing with the person, you're a retard, and you're the reason why democracy is flawed.

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>>17973879
>those useless flashy colored wings that makes them easier preys and impede travel.
This is a blatant sign of fitness. If the bird can survive and prosper despite being colored like a fucking target, then obviously it's fit as a damn fiddle. The fact that the traits have spread proves the use of it as well.
Are you just pulling this stuff out of your ass without a single thought?

>> No.17973916

>>17973879
Chad Incelephant desu

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>>17973896
>Managed to lose my virginity at 18
>incel

>> No.17973927

>>17973908
incels are disliked because they actively hate other groups of people and their ideology is built on misogyny. maybe if they didn't venerate and try to justify the actions of monsters like elliot rodgers people would be more sympathetic towards them

>> No.17973933

>>17973896
>I was a former incel, so I know what it takes. Managed to lose my virginity at 18
lmao

>> No.17973941

>>17973927
Incels are disliked because everyone wants to feel their accomplishments are somehow earned and justified, instead of the result of genetic combinations from your parents interacting with the environment.

>> No.17973943

>>17973908
>If you categorise people, including yourself, into being just one thing, and you immediately associate all the positives or negatives of that thing with the person, you're a retard, and you're the reason why democracy is flawed.

that's what incels do with women though lmao

>> No.17973950

>>17973899
I unironically am 6'3.
I know a guy who is 5'8 or 5'9 who had kissed over 100 girls when he was 18 or 19. He could pretty much go up to most girls, chat them up for a bit and then kiss them.
Now he got a gf and put on some weight and work as a janitor, just enjoying life and playing basketball as a hobby.
If you keep concentrating on your defiencies, you're never gonna make it. I did the same my whole life, until I learned that it's more unattractive to meet a sad and whining cunt, than it is to meet a cool and fun short guy.
I've even known girls who at first said "oh, but this guy is short" and then after some smooth talking, they ended up sleeping with him.
I think the first lesson would be, that sex is not charts or statistics. You can't learn to talk to women by looking at statistics online, it's a weird fucking thing to do.
You can, however, accept that sex is complicated and not as straightforward as googling porn and jerking off. It requires interaction with an Other. It requires unforeseeable things, that social interaction is. And either you suck it up and get out there, or you sit in front of your computer and post frog pictures the rest of your life.

>> No.17973952

>>17973941
no, im pretty sure its because they defend mass shooters and dehumanize women

>> No.17973957

>>17973952
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

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>>17973950

>> No.17973968

>>17973922
>>17973933
I rode my bike home one day crying, and saying I fucking hated women and would never fall in love.
If I had kept this mindset, I would have been a 24 year old Virgin right now.
I turned my life around, and I didn't automatically get laid the first time, I did some ballsy moves that ended up paying off, and from then on I couldn't believe that getting laid wasn't this mysterious thing I had made it in my mind. It was literally just a social interaction with a woman, not some mystical thing out of grasp.

>> No.17973975

>>17973968
Now work on self-awareness a bit and you'll be peachy.

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>>17973950
Getting laid is easy.

>> No.17973982

>>17973927
You understand that your beliefs have been heavily influenced by the things to which you're exposed? I was trying to get at that point, but your brain is incapable of comprehension without spoodfeeding.

Humans are multidimensional beings, we have characteristics and traits that cover a broad spectrum of diversity. A single person can be a rich tapestry.

I could say that all feminists are whiny man haters who just want free benefits with no responsibility, but that completely undermines the feminists who just want not to be raped, or the fact that even the man hating feminists have past experiences and traumas which have led them to where they are. In a way, their demands are justified by their own lives, even if I disagree. I can recognise that there is more than one trait to each person. Often the most wretched of humans have just been dealt a bad hand, they know nothing better, and so it is up to the more enlightened individual to understand their position and empathise with it.

>> No.17973983

Why do the (you)’s give so many people so much pleasure? Is writing bait for those replies really worth it?

>> No.17973986

>>17973927
I agree with this. I feel worse for guys who just have bad luck but try to improve themselves more than I do the losers on here who post rape fantasies or about how they are doomed to be alone forever because their jawbone is .2mm too short.

>> No.17973988

>>17973983
Getting replies is nice, but there's also a side of insider humor involved. Writing complete bullshit tongue-in-cheek to see how many top lads get it is even better.

>> No.17973995

>>17973982
i will never empathize with people who defend people like elliot rodgers. period.

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>>17973986
>than I do the losers on here who post rape fantasies or about how they are doomed to be alone forever because their jawbone is .2mm too short.
And why do you not extend your sympathy to their inferior mind, their delusions? As soon as we move onto the internal qualities of the incel, you just abandon all concern and understanding?

>> No.17973997

>>17973943
Yes, it's not a trait particular to incels, but to the human race as a whole. Incels are just a variant of a popular phenomenon. The reason why incels are hated is because the thong they've chosen to discriminate against (women) is popular and generally liked, or pretended to be liked, by the majority of the population.

>> No.17974003

>>17973996
If you blame women for your problems to the point where you support violence against them any sympathy I had for you is long gone.

>> No.17974012

>>17974003
So not much sympathy for mental illness then? I get it. Kind of hard to have bestial empathy for things you don't understand or can't perceive.

>> No.17974013

>>17974003
Why are some people undeserving of sympathy? It’s no good to dehumanize people, especially the worst ones.

>> No.17974016

>>17973976
>>17973965
This is the toxic mindset. Not only have you sworn off women, you have taken to actively hate "Chads".
How do you think I became well functioning? I started becoming friends with the Chads, hanging out with them and having fun. I learned social skills, met a lot of new people and when you're in a pack of 4 - 5 guys, you will be more attractive if you're with attractive guys.
Stop hating Chads. Youve been misled by our society to think that everything is attainable as an individual. This mindset is fucking toxic, life is not to be lived in isolation, unless you seek it out.
You shouldn't hate Chads, simply become their friend, and in turn learn from them and just hang out with them. I'm even trying to give you tips here, but your own attitude is self defeating. You would rather be an incel loser with no risk taken, than to risk something and maybe win.
You have too much ego to just let go, and try and put yourself out there, and accept the rejections. I've been rejected a shit load of times, but can't even remember most of them, it doesn't fucking matter. I've been accepted as well, which is the byproduct of taking the risk of interacting and flirting with women.
Either you step up to the table, accept this risk and stop hating Chads, or you keep shitposting. Either way, this blackpill shit isn't helping you, only stroking your egos and telling you it's not your own fault (which it is).

>> No.17974018

>>17974013
Why don't you ask incels why they don't empathize with women?

>> No.17974027

>>17974003
Again, you're arguing about a vocal minority. It's the same as people disregarding feminism as legitimate because some of the feminists actively had "kill all men" written on their placards. I don't know a single incel who's killed exclusively women. The only sereal killer I know of who did so was Ted Bundy, and he was a chad.

Your world-view has been warped by Facebook, TV, and sissy hypnosis videos.

>> No.17974031

>>17974018
You want to stoop yourself down onto their level like that? Just loathe people based on their inherent being, given to them by their parents?

>> No.17974032

>>17974018
Do you really want to be like an incel?

>> No.17974034

>>17974018
Actually they tell us a lot of the time. It's becayse women's problems are non problems to the incel. The woman complains her toast is burnt, the incel complains he has no bread.

>> No.17974036

>>17974012
>>17974013
>incels want to kill and rape women
>"we're the victims!!"
They're pathetic. They deserve this treatment.

>> No.17974037

>>17974016
This guy has the right idea.

>> No.17974043

>>17974036
Well I disagree that anyone does not deserve sympathy.

>> No.17974044

>>17974031
>>17974032
Disliking extreme misogynists is not comparable to generalizing an entire gender. Also you're dodging the question. Why don't you ask why incels don't empathize with and dehumanize women?

>> No.17974049

>>17974031
>inherent being
jesus christ give me a break

>> No.17974051

>>17974044
Because I’m (presumably) not talking to an incel? I don’t think it’s right either way.

>> No.17974052

>>17974049
Sorry, I don't accept your magical thinking.

>> No.17974059

>>17974043
You can't extend sympathy to people who aren't self aware enough to see how hating women is irrational.
You shouldn't enable Muslim terrorists who execute "infidels" either, on the basis that they're simply too far gone in their mind. If you catch them and they suddenly start to change ways, how is that in any way a genuine change, and not just a "I got caught all of a sudden I don't want to lop your head off! Please have sympathy!"
Incels will get sympathy, by first giving it to others. That's how it works. If you're a pathetic man child with a victim complex, a defeatist attitude and a giant ego, you will be viewed as pathetic. Because that's what they are.

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>>17974037
Projecting your own personal experiences onto internet strangers is never "the right idea." It's self-centered ego-fulfillment, where zero thought is put onto the person you're talking to and all thought put into satisfying your own desires of "helping".
Anon here hasn't even asked a single question about the perceived incels he is talking to, yet he deems fit to dole out life advice?

>> No.17974085
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>>17974036
And incels think pretty much the same of women. Who gets to be the ultimate arbitrator of who deserves what? Fight it out?

>>17974059
>You can't extend sympathy to people who aren't self aware enough to see how hating women is irrational.
Of course you can. You can extend your sympathy to anything and everything that exists.
>You shouldn't enable
Sympathy does not equate to acceptance. You can sympathize with a Muslim terrorist as a fellow human, understand his views and motivations, wish him all the best and also shoot him in the head to stop him from committing violence on you and your kin.
Just because you sympathize with someone does not mean you are entirely controlled by that sympathy. You do not need to dehumanize everyone you deem to be an opponent.

>> No.17974086

>>17974059
But you can and should extend sympathy to everyone. Even the scum of the earth. That has nothing to do with thinking their actions are right.

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>>17974059
>>17974085
>you will be viewed as pathetic. Because that's what they are.
And the pathetic do not deserve sympathy in your eyes? The weak suffer what they must?

>> No.17974103

>>17974085
>You do not need to dehumanize everyone you deem to be an opponent.

tell that to the incels. sympathy is a two way street.

>> No.17974107

>>17974063
Incels in this thread will never learn. Not only have they sworn off women, you refuse to learn from your succesful brothers.
You talk so much of genetic determinant and biological factors, well how do you think the human mind learns? By looking and talking with others.
But incels hate "Chads" instead of having a curious attitude towards them. No tribe in history has not had its members learn and teach each other different things, it's how they could pass on information to the next generation. These incels have a lot of information they lack about basic social interaction, because most of their life is sitting in front of a computer.
I tried to tell you this, but you won't listen. Nothing can penetrate into your mind, except things that already confirm your beliefs. Keep blaming women or succesful men, but your life isn't gonna change. One day you're going to be 50 and still be on this website, posting with your 1TB reaction folder about "Chads and Stacys".
You willfully isolate yourself from society, but also want to whine about it all the time.

>> No.17974115

>>17974085
I refuse to sympathize with muslim terrorists or incels. If you want to, that's your prerogative but I have no desire to do so. I find their "motivations" abhorrent, sickening, selfish, and not rooted in any sort of rational belief but rather driven by hatred.

>> No.17974121

>>17974085
You're shifting the words. I said I have no sympathy for them, not that I'm dehumanizing them. They are human beings, with a pathetic world view. Why should I have sympathy for them? You can't be a hateful incel, and a victim as well. No, women haven't threatened to rape or harm you, they rejected you. This doesn't mean it's okay for you to fantasize about raping or killing them. That's psychopath behavior.

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>>17974085
>Who gets to be the ultimate arbitrator of who deserves what? Fight it out?

>> No.17974144

The real question is why the fuck has society gotten so obsessed with sex

>> No.17974149

>>17974144
Incels are the inevitable outcome of a sex obsessed society.
Normal people are obsessed with sex, incels are obsessed with not getting sex.
Its two sides of the same coin.

>> No.17974154

>>17974144
It's the only valuable thing that isn't a priori monopolized by central banks, governments or university academia.

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>>17974103
You view it to be one. You can travel down that road completely lonesome with no headway traffic at all needed.
Likewise, the angsty incels choose it to be a two-way street as well, refusing sympathy as they perceive themselves to receive none.
In the end both parties just grow more hateful, neither taking the prequisite steps to understanding the other party; to letting go of their hatred.

>>17974121
Sympathy is an intrinsic aspect of humanization and denying it a key aspect of dehumanization. Dehumanization strips another of the right to humanistic treatment, of being the recipient of empathy and sympathy. Denial of sympathy to incels is dehumanizing, whether you recognize it or not. Whether you think it is justified or not.
>Why should I have sympathy for them?
Because they are human beings. Never did they ask to be born. Never did they have control over the laws of the universe. Never did they get to choose their nature, their parents and place of birth. Never had they the opportunity to select their life's early environments or the way they were treated.
They are fellow human beings who were realized into this world and given a will that drives them forward to whatever ends. Nobody gets to choose who they are. Any decisions you make (or don't) on changing yourself are already built upon what you are in the first place. Success and quality predicate themselves further, while garbage forms more of itself.

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>>17974107
Projecting your own personal experiences onto internet strangers is never "the right idea." It's self-centered ego-fulfillment, where zero thought is put onto the person you're talking to and all thought put into satisfying your own desires of "helping".
Anon here hasn't even asked a single question about the perceived incels he is talking to, yet he deems fit to dole out life advice?

>> No.17974165

>>17974144
Average society was always like this, most of our literature in the past just came from the high class, who was less obsessed.

>> No.17974177

>>17974165
>most of our literature in the past just came from the high class, who was less obsessed.
I sincerely suggest you familiarize yourself with the erotic fetish literature of the past centuries. Everything from bestiality to shota is found in those old works, read by those very same upper classes.

>> No.17974187

>>17974177
That's why I said less, the noble class at least had some etiquette. Folk culture on the other hand was arguably 90% sex and 10% church.

>> No.17974189

>>17973911
Even in your bizarre description it wouldn't be a mark of judgement. If you make a machine part, put yourself some stupid arbitrary constraint, and still pass tests and certification, you haven't been functional. Rather the engineer wouldn't have the constraint at all and made a better part without it.
However most examples of retarded sexual selection are due to the exact opposite: a very safe environment. As soon as chad predators brought by Europeans came into the fray in those climates, the fancy looking animals were threatened with extermination while the actually functional remained.
>The fact that the traits have spread proves the use of it as well.
This is false and stupid even independently of the above. Using survival as an argument for fitness is begging the question. It's similar to explaining why opium makes you sleep with the dormitory power of opium.

>> No.17974198

>>17973492
>Spic btw
Of course

>> No.17974205

>>17974059
>Incels will get sympathy, by first giving it to others. That's how it works.
You are not first giving sympathy to incels, so you shouldn't get any either.

>> No.17974219

>>17968776
a kid is a virgin but not an incel

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>>17974189
>However most examples of retarded sexual selection are due to the exact opposite: a very safe environment. As soon as chad predators brought by Europeans came into the fray in those climates, the fancy looking animals were threatened with extermination while
Give some examples. Here's a dodo as a counter-example of "fancy looking animals" being threatened and also a great big list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinct_bird_species_since_1500
>the actually functional remained.
Who defines what's actually functional and in what environment? Are you not a functional being, if after thrown into the middle of the ocean you inevitably drown?
>Using survival as an argument for fitness is begging the question
But that is specifically what fitness is. The ability to spread your genes is what being fit is all about. If having a fancy colored plume leads to more offspring, then that is fitness.

>> No.17974238

>>17974158
>no free will
You're showing slave morality. Yes their circumstances are unfortunate, but that doesn't excuse their actions. It's not okay to murder, rape or steal no matter how hard your childhood was. It would breed an inevitable circle of harm and evil.
I see incels as human beings, but they deserve no sympathy. They live in the 1st world mostly and spend their entire life in front of a computer. Plenty of people are nerds and don't end up hateful and pathetic.
I don't show sympathy for terrorists either, they want to kill me and if we catch and bail them, they will suddenly convert and show "regret" for all their actions. Pathetic. It's the same with incels, if they ever get laid they might drop all their shitty beliefs, so why should I in turn have sympathy for those asinine views? They're making themself monsters, not society around them. Does society play an important role, yes of course it does. But can we do away with all guilt and instead show sympathy for every murderer who ruins people's lives? No. They only regret their actions if they get caught, I have seen plenty of whining murdering bitches in prison who think after 30 years they should get out, "they're a different person!". The harsh truth is they're not, they're just sorry they got caught. They don't even think of the terror of walking down the street and suddenly standing in front of your father's or other family members murderer, how fucking asinine wouldn't this be.
Incels can change their mindset, and if they do I have sympathy for them. When they keep blaming everyone else for their shortcomings and violent fantasies, they're just pathetic.

>> No.17974244

>>17974164
You're dismissing my posts because you don't want discussion, only wallowing in your own filth.
I will stop bothering you, and let you roll around in misery with the other incels on the internet. But this explains your situation, your refusal to learn. You expect society and everyone else to change, to accommodate your sexual failures.

>> No.17974247

>>17974238
>"you're showing slave morality"
proceeds to moralize like a slave by stating this not one sentence later:
>It's not okay to murder, rape or steal

You are a genuine retard. At least quit trying to pretend you've read Nietzsche.

>> No.17974254

>>17974244
Like I said. You're giving out advice to me, an online stranger, without ever even verifying whether I'm an incel or not. Pro-tip: I'm not.
Everything I wrote applies to you perfectly and there is no real discussion to be had so long as you are so conceitedly focused on satisfying your own desire for "helping" instead of actually trying to engage another person in discussion.
You are selfish and your posts do not deserve anything better than what I posted.

>> No.17974260

>>17974205
I'm a healthy adult male, with a girlfriend and soon a bachelor's degree. I don't wish death or destruction on anyone, except maybe mass murderers and violent terrorist groups.

Incels are neurotic and sex obsessed psychopaths who fantasize about murdering and raping women. They wish domination and control of women, and to deny them human rights.

To even suggest we're equal is pathetic, incels are not victims. They have a violent ideology, rooted in their own failings at a normal social life. I show them no sympathy, as their entire lives revolve around hating the world and the people in it.

>> No.17974267

>>17974238
i agree with you desu

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>>17974238
>no free will
No.
>I see incels as human beings, but they deserve no sympathy.
And this is dehumanization. You recognize them as humans, but do not treat them humanely.
>But can we do away with all guilt and instead show sympathy for every murderer who ruins people's lives? No.
Of course we can. That doesn't mean we need or should stop isolating them from functional society, nor does it even mean we shouldn't execute them for their crimes. It simply means we extend our sympathy to them as fellow human beings instead of taking the easy way out and dehumanizing them.
>Incels can change their mindset,
A very bold assumption, based on what? Do you just blindly assume they have the will capable of self-transformation like that? If they do, then why aren't they doing it already?
>and if they do I have sympathy for them.
So you only extend your sympathy to those who agree with you and your views.
>they're just pathetic.
And do you not think the pathetic deserve sympathy? Where do you cut it off? Crippled babies? The mentally ill?

>> No.17974288

>>17974260
By your own principles, you should show them sympathy first to get any in return. Turns out it was all pretense.
>Incels [....] fantasize about murdering and raping women.
Hahahahaha, they want girls to desire them (which would actually happen should they turn into rapists).

>> No.17974291

>>17974254
I'm giving out advice because I think being an "incel" is a mental condition. It's a mindset, it's an ideology. The only way to change an ideology is to critically reflect on one's life and the world. Incels don't do this, they spam abstract numbers and bogus studies and say that's why they can't get laid. It's absurd.
So you're right, I shouldn't engage these "people" in discussion, I should leave them alone in their own misery. They cannot even for 10 seconds stop their obsessive shitposting, to even consider the possibility that they lack basic social skills and therefore live an isolated life in front of their computer. It's always the world's, women's or Chad's fault that they live unfulfilled lives.
And your attitude sums it up perfectly. Was I giving out advice? Yes. Was it a mistake to attempt to discuss anything with these self-loathing faggots? Perhaps it was. However I don't think the incels themselves want to be left alone, else they wouldn't whine in every corner of the internet about their misery.

>> No.17974297

>>17974291
true
its like talking to a brick wall with these people. they dont want to change and use the incel ideology as a coping mechanism and excuse to avoid improving themselves

>> No.17974306

>>17974260
You’re not as far removed from murderers, tyrants, rapists, and incels as you would like to believe. Nobody is born an incel. If you really think that incels are evil, the best thing to do would be to understand what leads people down that road.

>> No.17974323

>>17974278
>treat them humanely
But I am. I am not treating them like little oversensitive retards, I am treating them like human beings with an intellect.
If they were to use that intellect to critically reflect for once in their lives, they would get my sympathy. When they deny that intellect and instead want to take all their frustrations out on other people, they're acting inhumane. This deserves no sympathy.
Imagine if I was an employer and employed exconvicts. Sure I'm showing sympathy for their situation. What if one of them robs me, attacks me or even shoots me? Should I have sympathy for them then? No, they even attack those trying to sympathize with them because they can only do harm. This is the incel mindset, it can only do harm. It is to rape and kill women, it is to dehumanize others, because they perceive everyone an enemy. This I show no sympathy as it is not human, it is inhuman.

>> No.17974327

>>17974291
>The only way to change an ideology is to critically reflect on one's life and the world.
Then why are you making these posts? Do you expect them to result in someone changing their mind?
>So you're right, I shouldn't engage these "people" in discussion, I should leave them alone in their own misery.
Yes, absolutely. I'm very glad you understood this.
If you are not willing to genuinely and in-depth engage with someone like an incel, do NOT bother. You cannot provide anything of value through such a half-assed online discussion where you do not even take your time to question and understand the incel in question. All you are doing is satisfying your own desires and upsetting those you are talking to.
Actual therapeutic evaluation requires hours of work in person, progress takes months and years of serious work. What you are doing is not even taking the very first steps. You are still, absolutely posting
>just be urself bruh
level drivel.
>And your attitude sums it up perfectly.
What attitude? A realistic take on the subject from an outsider's perspective?
>Was I giving out advice? Yes.
And from now on I hope you will stop doing that unrequested.

>> No.17974339

>>17974327
if you dont want to fix yourself and think lashing out at the world for your predicament and ineptitude is a valid response, so be it. just dont expect anyone to care

>> No.17974340

"I hate incels because they are misogynists" is a cope and an attempt to rationalize the irrational emotional disgust normal people have for genetically inferior men. This is proven by the fact that incels who are not extremists are just as hated and have their communities indiscriminately banned regardless. See reddit.com/r/incelswithouthate, one such community that banned all forms of hate and was moderated by a woman. It got banned because it was an incel forum. The fact is simply being a low value male who is aware of their own genetic inferiority will make you the target of irrational hatred no matter what your personality is or whether you hate women or hold extremist beliefs. The only way to make these people happy is to reject the "involuntary celebate" label, i.e. reject genetic determinism.

>> No.17974342

>>17974323
You don't expect depressed people to be able to critically reflect on their depression and escape it themselves, why do you assume incels are not the same?

>> No.17974346

>>17974342
because incelism is an ideology and belief system that one is indoctrinated into

>> No.17974352

>>17974323
>But I am. I am not treating them like little oversensitive retards, I am treating them like human beings with an intellect.
And this has nothing to do with dehumanization. You are still dehumanizing them by denying them sympathy.
>Should I have sympathy for them then?
Yes, you should extend your sympathy to them regardless. Having sympathy does not mean you abandon all other motivators and allow them to act as they wish. Having sympathy for the criminal does not mean you won't defend yourself and shoot him as he tries to harm you.
>This I show no sympathy as it is not human, it is inhuman.
I'm glad you realize you're dehumanizing them yourself.

>> No.17974354

>>17974346
Do you not feel sympathy for those who end up in pyramid schemes, or cults?

>> No.17974358

>>17974346
Incels are a type of person, not an ideology. There is no "incelist" ideological doctrine or official system. It's basically just a mental state, like depression.

>> No.17974362

>>17973205
Practice more, do drills and the like. You want to repeat techniques over and over again so your brain can recognize the patterns and automate them.

>> No.17974368

>>17972736
>Since Americans are retarded they destroyed this system.

Based they did so.

>> No.17974374

>>17973276
I've never felt better in my life.

>> No.17974382

Why are you so obsessed with getting laid and finding a partner.

>> No.17974391

>>17974382
Because they haven't had one (ever or in a long time). It translates to seeming more important and interesting to them than what it is.

>> No.17974397

>>17974327
>therapeutic sessions
Are you baiting me or legitimately thinking I could give someone fucking talk therapy on 4chan?

The topic was incels, and I chimed in. That's what you do on an image board faggot, and like >>17974339 already said, don't expect anyone cares about your problems if all you do is lash out at everyone. Being an incel is mostly self-inflicted, because they choose to live in isolation in front of their computer and blaming everyone but themselves.
When a random guy like me tries to tell them what worked for me, they start attacking me, because that's all they can do apparently, post hateful messages about others. I can't provide faggots therapy online, what the fuck are you saying? But I'm not going to spend multiple hours listening to incels attack and ridicule me, I will do like you say and move on with my day. Like I said, let them wallow in their own misery, if that's what they want. If they don't want to listen to anyone but just shit post the same old charts while jerking off all day, then let them. Their constant whining about it, is just another thing preventing them from ever connecting with other human beings.

>> No.17974401

>>17974352
If you hold inhumane beliefs and do inhumane acts, do not expect humane treatment.

>> No.17974409

>>17974397
>When a random guy like me tries to tell them what worked for me
what worked for you was being 6'3". Your experience is irrelevant to everyone else because you were never incel. If you had bothered to educate yourself on the topic of the thread you would have already understood this.

>> No.17974410

>>17974401
So you should not expect humane treatment either, what with your dehumanizing.

>> No.17974415

>>17974397
>When a random guy like me tries to tell them what worked for me, they start attacking m
Because there is absolutely no reason to assume that what worked for you would work for them. You said you're a 6'3 chad who lost his virginity at 18? That is absolutely nothing like the kind of existence incels live, so why would you ever assume your experiences would apply to them in any way or form? That they would gain anything from your story that reads like malicious bait? Like a boomer telling kids these days to get a job by just marching into an office and giving them a firm handshake. You're so detached from the reality of incels' lives and internal experience that it's laughable.

You know nothing at all. You don't even try to learn and then in the end you get upset when people get upset at your self-centered posts. You are only being insulting by posting like this, so of course you should expect negative responses.

>> No.17974421

>>17974016
>>17973950
I am 5'5". You live in an entirely different world than me, being 6'3". Holy shit. You are literally one of the chosen. I understand what you're trying to do, but keep in mind that you are EXTREMELY gifted. It's pretty much impossible for anyone over 6 foot to be an incel.
Your 5'9" friend also has it much, much better than me.

Man, why is it always lanklets who have these redemption arcs? They were never incels.

>> No.17974426

>>17974410
It doesn't matter, they wouldn't give it to me regardless. Their ideology and mindset dehumanizes me, no matter if I show sympathy to them or not. The only response I can have to that is to not show them sympathy either, unless they drop incelism and dehumanizing me.
Its like having sympathy with a terrorist, sure they regret it when they're caught, but if they caught me, I wouldn't be shown any sympathy. Difference between us is I don't hate people for no reason, while incels will murder and rape innocent women. I will never harm people, not even incels, I just won't give their asinine world view any sympathy. I will ridicule it and call it pathetic, because that's what it is.

>> No.17974433

>>17974426
Post anus baby girl

>> No.17974434

>>17973950
>used to be an incel
>"I unironically am 6'3."
every. single. fucking. time.

>> No.17974436

>>17974421
>It's pretty much impossible for anyone over 6 foot to be an incel.
Your entire view of the world is distorted. I am a different person (exactly 6'1), 26 years old, regularly social with friends, I have multiple hobbies and I exercise (mainly running) regularly and I am an incel. My face is awful and I do not have a personality that women like. If I try to chat with women, you can tell immediately that they are not interested in my and they just try to steer the conversation in a direction which allows them to gracefully exit without offending me.

>> No.17974437

>>17974426
>Difference between us is
There is no difference. You both dehumanize and deny sympathy for groups you deem to not extend their sympathy to you, who you deem deserve the dehumanization.
You'd be a complete incel yourself were you put in one's shoes. You should work on your self-awareness.

>> No.17974440

>>17974401
>do inhumane acts
Awkwardly asking girls out? Having the audacity of making their presence known to the fairer sex as an unattractive man?
Incels are some of the lowest criminogenic demographic you could point out. You seem to have a bizarre strawman in your head. Incels are 25% of the younger (millenial+zoomer) male population. Many makes more money, are in better shape, or otherwise are more "successful" than you in every way but with women. I work in a high end engineering field and it's incel central among the younger generation. The highest crime any of them has probably ever committed is torrenting video games.

>> No.17974454

>>17974426
You are equating being an involuntary celibate to terrorists. The majority of involuntary celibates don't hate anyone, you simply hate them because they are genetically inferior low value males who disgust you and so you make them all misogynists in your own head to rationalize it. This is textbook dehumanization.

>> No.17974461

Why is this roastie pretending incels want to rape and murder women
Top fucking kek

>> No.17974462

>>17974421
Your attitude to your height, is much more unattractive than your height.

>>17974415
This is again the same mindset. I was a 6'3 fat fuck with no social skills, and all I did was play vidoe games. So guess what I did? I became a human being whose life didn't revolve around staring at moving images on a fucking screen, and stopped hating myself.
Your defeatist attitude is the worst thing about you. You're unable to enjoy life, because youre so fucking miserable about yourself. Is it okay to be bleak? Of course it is, but its not attractive to constantly whine about your own defects. It's miserable to listen to. If you guys would stop hating yourself so much for once, and accept your fate and your body and try to enjoy yourselves regardless, you would unironically find an interested woman at some point. Will it be the 10/10 big titt goth gf? No. Will it be a normal or average girl who might treat you like a king? Yes it could be, if you would just stop the constant whining and the autistic biological determinancy.
Most geniuses were fucking autistic virgins, but they didn't have porn or video games to fill up their life, they had to find other avenues to entertain themselves.
You're living an alienated life, and it's not because of women or Chads, it's because your lifestyle revolves around being online all the time, and your thoughts are constantly about your own inadequacies. If you don't even believe in yourself, then who the fuck should believe in you?
Being 5'5 doesn't stop you from doing pretty much anything in life, you can even play sports and do a lot of other shit, and hang out with friends. Once you start doing this and just accepting your height, you will automatically become less miserable and women will be more accepting of you talking to them, instead of just staring at them from the corner.

>> No.17974468

>>17974436
You need to move to the US, then. I guarantee that you could get multiple numbers in a single night. My cousin has literal aspergers, a very homely face, is unfashionable and unkempt, yet has gotten many short women pining after him on account of him being 6'2". It's only total womanlets, though.

You most likely just need to get out more. You cannot be that ugly or self-sabotaging yourself more than my stammering, (literally) whimpering cousin who can't make eye contact for more than half a second. He's talked about fucking Morrowind to random women and gotten attention from it.

>> No.17974474

>>17974462
>So guess what I did?
Live up to your genetic potential, which again, those incels don't have.

>> No.17974479

>>17974437
This is retarded reductionism. Incels hate women and want to deny them basic human rights.
I don't want to deny incels human rights or murder them, but I don't hold any sympathy for their psychopathic world view.

>> No.17974483

>>17974479
It's the reality that you fail to accept because of how uncomfortable it is to you.

>> No.17974487

>>17974462
Doesn't matter big guy. Some manlet can stop playing vidya but the result will be completely different.

>> No.17974488

>>17974468
He is probably better looking than you think to compensate or just has a good personality (perhaps "endearing" might be the better term, good despite the bad which makes the bad seem "cute") despite being autistic (it happens, trust me, I know some genuinely autistic guys who are like that).

Otherwise, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe the US is significantly different from Europe.

>> No.17974490

>>17974421
>Man, why is it always lanklets who have these redemption arcs? They were never incels.
You bring up a good point. Aren't they like the top 95th percentile? And yet there's two of them in this very thread. If it didn't matter they should be much more evenly distributed. Really makes you think.

>> No.17974494

>>17974454
No, incel forums are constantly flooded with rape fantasies and hating women circle jerking. Incels are not these innocent and beautiful creatures, they're spiteful psychopaths who show sympathy for Elliot Rodger, "their guy".
Inhumane doctrines, don't deserve humane treatment. Simple as that.

>> No.17974497

>>17974479
If you're a male virgin who is incapable of attracting women you automatically hate them and want to deny them rights? This is ridiculous

>> No.17974501

>>17974494
>incel forums
how many post on those? I doubt it is 25% of the population

>> No.17974506

>>17974494
I'm an incel and I don't have those fantasies... I just masturbate to vanilla touhou desu

>> No.17974507

>>17974440
Being a virgin does not equal being an incel.
Incel forums have always turned out to be hate hubs, where murder and rape is idolized. Think Elliot Rodger and other "our guy" types. If those guys don't hold insane views about women and society, then cool, they're bros. If they blame their own inability to socialize on women and want to deny them human rights, then fuck them. Would you show sympathy to a slave trader, eyeing you up and down?
Again, I take incels to be the ones with the incel ideology, that has spread online. Being a regular ass nerdy dude is not being an incel to me, that's being a virgin.

>> No.17974515

God I wish I was gay

>> No.17974526

>>17974506
>>17974501
>>17974497
Being an incel is not being a virgin.
Incel is a mindset, it's a practice. Incels self identify as incels, and this group has shown to carry massive hate and sick views with them. It's literally what is posted on incel forums every day. It's a miserable circle jerk and a toxic mindset to identify with. It's an ideology.
Being a virgin is just a status of having had sex or not. You can be a virgin for different reasons, but there is no established ideology or mindset to being a virgin.

>> No.17974528

>>17974462
>You're living an alienated life, and it's not because of women or Chads, it's because your lifestyle revolves around being online all the time, and your thoughts are constantly about your own inadequacies. If you don't even believe in yourself, then who the fuck should believe in you?
>Being 5'5 doesn't stop you from doing pretty much anything in life, you can even play sports and do a lot of other shit, and hang out with friends. Once you start doing this and just accepting your height, you will automatically become less miserable and women will be more accepting of you talking to them, instead of just staring at them from the corner.
Buddy, I already do all this. This is my once-every-two-month vent that I go through when I've had to much to drink. I have a very healthy social life with deep relationships with both men and women, and I've made acquaintances with tons of people in various meetup orgs and clubs (hiking, archery, tabletop, Etc), which I still go to. I obviously have the sense to never talk about relationships or make gayass self-deprecating remarks about being unattractive or short like some other people I know (who, mind you, despite this whining seeming repulsive, they still have no problems finding casual sex). More often than not, it's usually my friends asking why I'm not in a relationship. Some female acquaintances have even told me that they feel bad for me since "you're a good guy, but a lot of girls care about height sweety". I never even mentioned height, ever. The fuck? (then again, they were intoxicated and rating members at the table, so it's understandable)

I don't know what to tell you, man. This isn't eating me up 24/7, it's not living rent-free in my head, I'm not posting incessantly about how my life is oh-so-totally shit because I can't stick my dick in a hole, hell I even had sex once, but there's a very common trend that I've noticed with other male friends who have way more going for them who also can't find anyone because they're short, and I don't feel like ignoring it.
Height is pretty damn important, man. Yeah, it isn't an automatic pussy pass, but it's a prerequisite for a lot of women.

>> No.17974545

>ITT people that have and will never feel the touch of a woman
Cope harder, you're just ugly and have a boring personality

>> No.17974546

>>17970319
Everything is a fucking cope, anon. The only difference between living and suicide is fucking cope

>> No.17974551

>>17974526
Incel is involuntary celibate, it says nothing about what views you have. It sounds to me like your problem is with men who believe their genetics is the cause of their involuntary celibacy.

>> No.17974553

>>17974545
i did and honestly acid and shrooms are 100x better

still a born again incel since that was 7 years ago

>> No.17974555
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17974555

>>17974507
They are involuntary celibate, that's instantly incel. Even those ranting about incel stuff are regular working men, just with a bleak (but accurate) view of their prospects.
Anon above was right. You'll find more spite and humiliation against incels if only from the sheer mass of people actively disliking them (including the majority of women before you play captain save a hoe) than they could ever give back even if they conformed to your strawman.

>> No.17974664

>>17972572
/thread

>> No.17974891

Can anyone find me some good links for this book?

>> No.17975081

>>17974526
>Incel is a mindset, it's a practice. Incels self identify as incels, and this group has shown to carry massive hate and sick views with them.
You know the term "incel" was coined by a WOMAN in the 90's and it had NOTHING to do with any kind of ideology. It literally meant a person who lived in celibacy involuntarily, in other words, was not able to find sexual partners of any kind for some reason. The woman who coined this term also started a chat room for people who were incels.

What pains me most with the incel issue, is that YOU CAN NOT TELL ANYMORE THAT YOU ARE SEXUALLY FAILED/INACTIVE, without some dickhead judging and condemning you for supporting incel movement. I mean, people are so idiotically jumping to conclusions that they assume that every person who announces that they live without sex is supporting incel movement and its ideology. Or then they do not assume anything but judge and condemn you anyway, for telling that you are sexually failed/inactive, or deny the existence of the sexually failed/inactive people to deny the existence of incels, to BE BETTER ABLE to invalidate the incel movement. That is a crime. It's the same as if they were, for example, condemning someone for telling that they are gay, bi or trans, or denying the existence of those, to invalidate LGBT movement. Not that those movements have anything in common, but it is wrong to deny the existence of a certain type of a person, or condemn someone for announcing that they are that type of a person, to invalidate a movement.

Well, that was pretty complicated to put together in a foreign language. Bye for now. 4chan is sucking too much of my time again.

>> No.17975365

>>17969811
Yeah, but today words get new meanings constantly. "Racism" does not refer to discrimination or hatred against people of certain ethnic group anymore, it refers to discrimination or hatred towards ethnic groups that are not privileged by someone who is part of an ethnic group that is privileged. Thus, there can not be racism against white people. "Homophobia" does not refer to feeling afraid of or intimidated by gay people anymore, but refers to saying anything negative about any person that is gay. "Transphobia" does not refer to feeling afraid of or intimidated by people who are transgender but refers to disagreeing with anything that trans movement claims to be true or demands, such as that trans women are fully comparable to women who were women at birth or that trans women should have a full right to use all women's public spaces. "Misogynist" does not refer to a person who hates women, but to anyone who has anything negative to say about anything feminists demand, such as a right to abort
a child right before its birth. Words change and are being changed to mean something that is beneficial to someone's cause. They do not mean what they appear to mean anymore, but mean something else to be used as a weapon against the oppressor, a real or imagined one.

I wonder if cats will be called dogs one day.

>> No.17975509

>>17972881
>females that are undesirable to physical chads are easily manipulated by mental chads.
Yeah, most 'mental chads' will probably too pass on these hideous hags.
Also, good looks always beats intelligence or 'good character'.