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I've been enjoying the bible so far but I noticed I have a lot of problems with some of Jesus' core teachings.

First of all, "turn the other cheek" seems more like a weak cope. How did Christianity survive with that kind of attitude?

>> No.17986451
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One word: Subversion. Since Christianity is a religion for the weak, the only way they could gain power was by bringing the powerful down to their level.
>Can't get laid? We'll say that chastity is noble.
>Don't have any money? Piety is virtuous.
>Are you sick and physically weak? The meek will inherit the Earth.
>Getting raped by your Roman master every night? Homosexuality is a sin.
This is how Christianity gained so much influence; scaring the powerful down to their level with threats of punishment like hell for indulging in natural pleasures, something unattainable for proto-Christians. You'll be indulging in objectively negative emotions such as resentment and pity.
If you are truly a Chad, becoming a Christian is the single worst, most destructive thing you can do to yourself.

>> No.17986463

>>17986451
Is There a Gay Basis To Nietzsche's Ideas?
Does it matter that Nietzsche's landlady in Turin once peeked through his keyhole and saw him dancing stark naked? Or that Nietzsche put an end to one young woman's romantic intentions by presenting her with a toad wrapped in a blood-stained handkerchief? Or that Richard Wagner spread rumors that Nietzsche suffered from the side effects of excessive masturbation and, perhaps, pederasty? Or that Nietzsche may have enjoyed several weeks of homoerotic bliss in Sicily?

>> No.17986488

>>17986463
>Nietzsche was gay
In other news, shit is brown.

>> No.17986576
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>>17986451
Absolutely retarded anon.
Chastity isn't about not wanting to get laid it's about resisting the urges we are presented by our base nature to pursue greater things. In a more primitive world, chemicals were enough to guide us on our path, but now we have evolved technology to exploit our body's hormones. This is the importance of religion, it is the new system to aid us in the form of a set of rules to guide us. This is a path for all strong enough to embark upon it presented to all of us. Piety is devotion, not being poor, it's a way for everyone willing to show their dedication to these rules of living, regardless of their status.
Our secular nature is why we fall into the pitfalls we see society suffering today. Crime rates, fornication, all of it is sinful and a distraction from our true goal to advance civilization in the name of God. I hope you too find the way one day Anon.

>> No.17986598

>>17986339
What Christianity did was empower slaves. It brought them literacy, culture, and redemption in the next life. Roman “master” morality affirmed the caste system that denied slaves to be fully human and restricted culture to the upper class. Christianity weakened this caste system because it taught slaves virtue thus humanizing them. Before Christianity the slave was cognitively more on the level of a hunter-gatherer or something, he had no culture, couldn’t read, and spent most of his day simply working, not having time or means to explore the power of the mind like those above him could.

This is why the seemingly weak Christianity beat the proud romans. It empowered the disenfranchised. Roman morality couldn’t resist the expansion of knowledge/consciousness/truth. Larpers like Nietzsche want to return to that master morality, they want to be the guys dominating the slave, but there’s no going back.

>> No.17986613

>>17986339
>First of all, "turn the other cheek" seems more like a weak cope. How did Christianity survive with that kind of attitude?
By the grace of god it became the largest world religion against all odds and continues to grow and inspire billions. Simple trust in the teachings of Jesus and the power of the lord and you will not have to worry.

>> No.17986631

>>17986451
Since Christianity was able to overtake Greek culture then it must be Christianity that is strong and Greek culture that is weak.

>> No.17986740

>>17986463
There's as much a "gay" basis to his ideas as there was to the Greeks' ideas. It's again just a Christian subversion that has to moralize against master morality as a coping mechanism; "you're evil because you're gay which is unnatural!!!" As if nature is not full of homosexuality, bisexuality, and all kinds of other "corrupted" sexualities.

In reality Nietzsche and the Greeks, like all master moralists, are ravenous and great in all ways, their sexuality not exempt, and so they are free to take both female and male lovers as they wish without guilt.

>> No.17986847

>>17986740
Cope: the post

>> No.17986863
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>Cope: the post

>> No.17986930

>>17986863
I'm gay. I didn't have to write 1000s of pages about Jews to justify it to the world and myself like a cuck who needs approval

>> No.17986950

>>17986930
>I'm gay
Want me to raise a flag?

>> No.17986955

>>17986576
>it's about resisting the urges we are presented by our base nature to pursue greater things
Such as posting on 4chan

>> No.17986974

>>17986451
christians can't handle the truth, look at them seethe

>> No.17986995

>>17986631
A young man isn't strong for pushing an elderly man down a flight of stairs.

>> No.17987017

>>17986339
>turn the other cheek
I was under the impression that this was referring to personal attacks primarily. Apparently getting slapped on the cheek was a major sign of disrespect, and so the act of turning the other cheek is supposed to avoid a blood feud. Also the NT in other places says that not providing for your family is tantamount to unbelief, so supposedly you are supposed to defend those that are weaker than you.

>> No.17987042

>>17986950
No but Nietzsche had to. Hence the Gay Basis to his ideas. He couldn't stop thinking about it

>> No.17987054

>>17987042
Nietzsche had to what? What are you even talking about, you gay retard?

>> No.17987072

>>17987054
I'm not actually gay, that was just rhetorical homosexuality. I'm talking about the Gay Basis to Nietzsches oeuvre. He needed spiritual permission to be a massive faggot, whic his why all his writing revolves around his gay spirit. He couldn't simply move on from it and write good fiction or poetry like a real artist.

>> No.17987135

>>17986995
A young man is stronger than an elderly man lol

>> No.17987137

>>17987072
>I'm not actually gay, that was just rhetorical homosexuality.
lmao, what?

>I'm talking about the Gay Basis to Nietzsches oeuvre
See >>17986740

>> No.17987149

>>17987137
All philosophy is inherently semitic, no matter how much you screech about it. As I said, he couldn't help himself, he just couldn't stop writing philosophy and move on, to become a real artist who writes fiction instead of philosophy

>> No.17987155

>>17986576
>Durr you can't have sex and be successful at the same time
Braindead virgin

>> No.17987170

>>17987149
Nietzsche was weak, all he did was talk about the fight, he never showed up to it. Philosophy is weak

>> No.17987174

>>17987135
Not for killing the elderly man though. The other poster wanted to make it seem like Christianity was stronger because it was able to "conquer" Greek culture in its elderly stage (at its weakest stage, long after all its best representatives had died) when that actually demonstrates the opposite (Christianity is cowardly and can only win fights against those who can't fight back).

>>17987149
Schizos like you should go back to /x/

>> No.17987178

>>17987174
I'm Jewish, by the way

>> No.17987180

>>17986339
By torturing and killing anyone who disagreed with them
How did you think? People use anything to justify their, doesn't make it true.

>> No.17987185

>>17987178
>schizo closet fag is Jewish
Imagine my shock.

>> No.17987193

>>17987185
fooled again, I'm actually not

>> No.17987218

>>17986451
>implying blowing your pair-bonding out on whores is somehow better

>> No.17987243

>>17987185
The truth is, Nietzsche has nothing in common with the Greeks, despite his fawning over them

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>>17987178
Shallom

>> No.17987256

>>17987245
How'd you know I was Juuling?

>> No.17987285

>>17987243
He has more in common with the Titan and Olympian Greeks than Christians do

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>>17987256
I have great psychic powers

>> No.17987319

>>17987285
Nah he's reddit and he got filtered hard by the Bible and basically every other religious or mythological text. He basically saw them as the MCU only he took it all at face value and had a mental breakdown when he realized it was all made up or simply a symbolic retelling of medieval history. Do you actually think Christians are weak? Do you actually think the historical Christ was a Palestinian Jew in a towel?

>> No.17987357

>>17987319
Early Christians were schizo Arabs who accomplished what they did by waiting until the culture was nearly dead before morally subverting the populace like a horde of vampires.

>> No.17987441

>>17986339
>First of all, "turn the other cheek" seems more like a weak cope. How did Christianity survive with that kind of attitude?
1. It's real 2. That passage doesn't necessarily have to apply to every situation. You should, in general, turn the other cheek and not seek revenge, but specifically it references a "slap on the cheek," so not deadly or necessarily even destructive, but a minor affront that hurts, but not much more. The eye-for-an-eye is similar, if someone takes something from you, should shouldn't take something back. Most denominations don't argue against self-defense or universal pacifism.