Frankfurt School

[Anonymous No.17993045]

>Believe /pol/ and think the Frankfurt School is the birthplace of modern PC SJWism
>Go to college
>Have to read Frankfurt school for class
>Realize these guys are actually pretty reactionary
>There whole thing is that capitalism degenerates society
>Start to agree with them
>Realized /pol/ lied to me

Anyone else?

[Anonymous No.17993048]

Also,
>Realize it was the French who caused all this shit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws

[Anonymous No.17993056]

>>17993048
As ever.

[Anonymous No.17993066]

>>17993045
The reactionary aspects of their thought are entirely borrowed from different and often better thinkers of the period. Read Max Weber and Ferdinand Tönnies and you'll never want to bother with Jewish hacks

[Anonymous No.17993068]

>>17993056
Seriously, why are the French like this?

[Anonymous No.17993071]

>>17993048
Why is every newshitter spamming this, as if it wasn't common knowledge.

[Anonymous No.17993081]

>>17993045
That people would think Horkheimer and Adorno are the precursors to woke SJW Twitter libs is so funny to me. How can people hold such strong opinions on a topic while knowing literally nothing about it, and then convince others to their point of view?

[Anonymous No.17993098]

>>17993081
There was books in the 1990’s written about how the Frankfurt School was the origin of the late 80’s/early 90’s wave of Political correctness. Pretty sure that’s where it comes from.

[Anonymous No.17993103]

>>17993045
You don't understand the "foot in the door" method. Critical theory and all that tripe was non-dogmatic Marxism to Trojan Horse academia. And it worked.

Capitalism does generate society. Hello! That's /pol/'s whole fucking thing. The kikes run the banks, business and now academia because you fell for it. Are you people really this stupid?

[Anonymous No.17993116]

Why did the hippies hate Adorno so much?

[Anonymous No.17993134]

>>17993103
imagine believing this, jesus fucking christ

[Anonymous No.17993153]

>>17993116
He was an elitist who hated pop culture.

[Anonymous No.17993159]

While /pol/ greatly exaggerates the influence of the Frankfurt School on SJWs, at the end of the day they did set the groundwork for modern critical theory. Adorno would be aghast that they twisted it and are using it against the very things he loved but that’s besides the point

[Anonymous No.17993165]

>>17993134
Okay, retard. Go cite one of your faggot pedophile theorists that definitely have cited the Frankfurt school, in turn.
It's not that anyone in academia has to be Marxist, it's just that this shit wasn't thrown out of the window because of cliques like the Frankurt school.
People who have shallowly framed the debate since the 50s and 60s to ignore what would actually benefit everyone. Getting rid of kikes. I'm so beyond social pressure, so you can imagine and get embarassed all you want, you oversocialized pussy.

[Anonymous No.17993181]

>>17993159
That's because /pol/ aren't intersted in what the book says, it's about the vents that actually happened.
Maybe they can sometimes be guilty of devaluing theory, but this board is just as bad for the opposite. Look at where and how and who even picks up a book by Habermas or whoever and tell me it's some reactionary chud. It's not, you know it's not.
It's picked up by the same person who wants to jam LGBT and or minority shit into everything.

[Anonymous No.17993225]

>>17993048
>Behold, the destroyers of Western civilization!

[Anonymous No.17993231]

>>17993225

[Anonymous No.17993296]

>>17993045
The Frankfurt school is responsible for the idea of subverting and destroying family structures because they think that having a father is patriarchal and totalitarian. With that they have grounded the slowly destruction of the western world.

[Anonymous No.17993324]

>>17993159
But modern critical theory has taken many ideas from french postmodernism, the frankfurt school had nothing in common with them, they even saw them as bad for society.

[Anonymous No.17993351]

>>17993296
>t. has never read a single word from anyone grouped under the frankfurt school

what compels people to spout off about things they obviously don't know anything about

[Anonymous No.17993353]

>>17993045
Well yeah, but it's all quite relative isn't it? If you read Adorno for example and compare his works to the stuff that gets published now... well no shit he's gonna look reactionary. But, compare Adorno's work to his contemporary non-frankfurt academics and it's a very diffenrt story. That's the point. No one expects the Frankfurt school to be spewing 2021 progressivism, but the point is 2021 progressivism has a logical progression originating (in part) from them.

[Anonymous No.17993388]

>>17993225

[Anonymous No.17993422]

[Anonymous No.17993455]

>>17993388
KEK
Saved.

[Anonymous No.17993506]

The frankfurt school made me an incel

[Anonymous No.17993515]

>>17993081
Agree, they wouldn't like the way modern "progressive" culture goes.

[Anonymous No.17993521]

>>17993045
Same. The only reason pol hates them is that some are Juice.

[Anonymous No.17993526]

>>17993296
No they’re not retard.

[Anonymous No.17993545]

>>17993388

[Anonymous No.17993549]

>>17993526
Proof it

[Anonymous No.17993563]

>>17993549
Give a passage where they call for the destruction of the family

[Anonymous No.17993581]

>>17993545

[Anonymous No.17993586]

>>17993563
I don't have to. You're a retard.

[Anonymous No.17993587]

>>17993581
Lol

[Anonymous No.17993591]

>>17993045
>liking classical music and art makes you a reactionary
how dumb are you?

[Anonymous No.17993604]

>>17993296
capitalism is responsible for subverting and destroying family structures because it values profit at any cost

[Anonymous No.17993606]

>>17993604
Wrong. Try again.

[Anonymous No.17993614]

>>17993604
>muh communism!

Wait until you get in the real world and out of your parents basement

[Anonymous No.17993617]

>>17993606
Not wrong in fact. Was it muh Frankfurt school who made women work or was it capitalism?

[Anonymous No.17993619]

[Anonymous No.17993620]

>>17993606
Capitalism is the reason women were forced into work, retard.

[Anonymous No.17993628]

>>17993614
>wait until you work to make other people rich, then you will become a KEK like me and agree!
Fuck off and die American LOSER.

[Anonymous No.17993654]

>>17993619
Oh look unsourced /pol/trash

[Anonymous No.17993660]

>>17993617
Both, but they had different goals.

[Anonymous No.17993687]

>>17993620
Why forced, I thought they framed it as emancipation? But you're right, they just made women worksaves like men.

[Anonymous No.17993702]

>>17993628
Seethe. You're a leech on society.

[Anonymous No.17993717]

[Anonymous No.17993733]

>>17993717
>no direct quotations
Who are the retards who fall for this garbage?

[Anonymous No.17993744]

/pol/ is retarded that's why and all the posters worth shit left pre-2016

[Anonymous No.17993763]

>>17993045
Reading this entire fucking thread it is clear to me that /pol/ reads more than this godforsaken board does

[Anonymous No.17993786]

[Anonymous No.17993809]

>>17993763
Yeah I suppose they “read” unsourced infographs. I’ve yet to see a single direct quote, even something from the Authoritarian Personality which is notorious for being bad and semi related to what they’re talking about with “cultural Marxism”.

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[Anonymous No.17993891]

>>17993045
>The Frankfurt School
>Reactionary
Please point out where Adorno, Horkheimer, or anyone else rails against popular sovereignty.

[Anonymous No.17993907]

>>17993066
>Max Weber
Wait till you guys find out about his philosophy professor

[Anonymous No.17993909]

>>17993045
All implementations of social policy without the understanding of capitalism is what causes social problems in the first place.

[Anonymous No.17993945]

>>17993809
Marxism is based on nothing more than arbitrary words.

[Anonymous No.17993982]

[Anonymous No.17993986]

>>17993045
In the Authoritarian Personality Adorno conflates and pathologizes a range of right wing perspectives as a single 'fascist disorder', which he states, without giving an argument, is based on obviously irrational and untrue claims, and which he links to such tendencies as high religiosity, respect for one's parents, respect for one's race(of course he is only talking about White Christians here, he does not apply this to any other group), thereby contributing to the subversion of these healthy aspects of a people and society.

[Anonymous No.17993988]

>>17993945
Marxism is based on capitalism.

[Anonymous No.17993998]

>>17993687
>I thought they framed it as emancipation?
Capitalists did frame it as emancipation, true.
>>17993702
Good. Anyone who isn't a leech on this evil society ruled by globalist billionaires who rape children and work to ethnically replace their natives populations is a complete mind controlled slave. Like you.
What now?

[Anonymous No.17994012]

>>17993081
A lot of social justice types understand themselves as being in some kind of post-Marxist lineage, so it's not like it comes from nowhere.

When I was active in LGBT/SJ spaces in the late 2000s and early 2010s it was pretty cliche for people to throw around Zizek, Marcuse and Adorno for credibility, which is funny because in hindsight it's obvious no one was actually reading that stuff, and Zizek is persona non grata these days

[Anonymous No.17994015]

>>17993563

[Anonymous No.17994019]

>>17993786
Wow universal egalitarianism is such a JEWISH concept, these JEWS really gate europe by liking EGALITARIANISM because EGALITARIANISM and human rights is pure JEWRY nothing WHITE about that!!!!!

[Anonymous No.17994023]

>>17993717
>Promotion of excessive drinking

Lol what

Who ever made this has never read a word of these guys.

[Anonymous No.17994024]

>>17993907
I've read Rickert alongside Weber but I haven't read Windelband. Is his history of philosophy textbook any good?

[Anonymous No.17994049]

>>17994019
Universal egalitarianism is just a step and not the endgoal.

[Anonymous No.17994052]

>>17993986
>The book was part of a "Studies in Prejudice" series sponsored by the American Jewish Committee's Department of Scientific Research
wowie based much

[Anonymous No.17994086]

>>17993045
>>17993048
>another day another leftypol thread trying to push the frankfurt school as based and redpilled right wingers on /lit/
why do they do this?

[Anonymous No.17994088]

>>17993786
Source the quote nigga

[Anonymous No.17994095]

>>17993988
No.

[Anonymous No.17994109]

>>17994049

[Anonymous No.17994111]

>>17994095
Marxism is literally an analysis of capitalism you dumb nigger

[Anonymous No.17994119]

Marcuse and Habermas are exatcly like the /pol/ caricature of the Frankfurt school though.

[Anonymous No.17994124]

>>17994109
The bolshevism part of the quote and after is fake. Why don't you post the actual source instead of a fake meme image, /pol/tard?

[Anonymous No.17994128]

>>17994109

[Anonymous No.17994141]

>>17994124

[Anonymous No.17994154]

>>17994111
No it goes against everything that is capitalism, it has absolute hatred of free markets and imposes methods to enforce the removal of free markets.

[Anonymous No.17994158]

>>17994141

[Anonymous No.17994164]

>>17994141
Post the actual written document, /pol/tud, instead of boomer infographics.

[Anonymous No.17994168]

Daily reminder that anyone who is not a Jacobite is literally a subhuman communist

[Anonymous No.17994169]

>>17994015
None of those women are considered a part of the Frankfurt School

[Anonymous No.17994172]

>>17994154
Marxism is an analysis of capitalism, that shows its internal contradictions. If anything, Marx himself was the biggest fan of capitalism.
You clearly know nothing about the matter. I don't expect much from a /pol/tard who watches youtube videos for his views!

[Anonymous No.17994175]

>>17993181
>. Look at where and how and who even picks up a book by Habermas or whoever and tell me it's some reactionary chud. It's not, you know it's not.
>It's picked up by the same person who wants to jam LGBT and or minority shit into everything.
if that is what america is like that is an incredibly sad state.
Since this is not at all accurate to Germany.

[Anonymous No.17994189]

>>17994175
Germany is literally an occupied territory of the US where you can be thrown in jail for questioning historical events

[Anonymous No.17994196]

>>17994172
I've read the communist manifesto, and you're just intentionally deceptive.

[Anonymous No.17994204]

>>17994189
yes, but at least Habermas is not read by the people who want to increase faggot shit.

[Anonymous No.17994211]

>>17994164
https://archive.org/details/PracticalIdealism-EnglishTranslation

[Anonymous No.17994213]

Who was the one Frankfurt school guy who converted to Christianity? I can’t remember his name.

[Anonymous No.17994218]

>>17993717
>Control and dumbing down of media
irony
palpable
etc
>the rest
lmao

[Anonymous No.17994220]

>>17994196
>I've read the communist manifesto
The communist manifesto is not a serious work of scholarship or marx's thought, it's a simple pamphlet and not even relevant to what he wrote later or to his more philosophical stuff. You're either trolling me or you're legit retarded.
Marx had a lot of interesting stuff to say and you don't need to be a communist to appreciate him (which I am not).

[Anonymous No.17994252]

>>17994164
https://underinformation.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/praktischeridealismus.pdf

In german original

[Anonymous No.17994255]

>>17994211
Post the direct page number and passage.

[Anonymous No.17994270]

I can't understand the left. I believe rather in a conspiracy theory, than to be unprepared.

[Anonymous No.17994273]

>>17994220
The Communist Manifesto is exactly the sort of politics you consistently see associated with marxists, so yes it is relevant. It's not just completely arbitrary that Marx was associated with that pamphlet

[Anonymous No.17994277]

>>17994255
find it for yourself lazy dumbass

[Anonymous No.17994290]

>>17994273
NOOO BUT LE EPIC DIALACTARINOOOOO

[Anonymous No.17994324]

>>17994252
Post the actual passage and page number, /pol/turd.

[Anonymous No.17994334]

>>17994273
You're legit retarded bro
sorry
"marxism" isn't even necessarily political, it's an analytical technique for sociology.

[Anonymous No.17994362]

>>17994334
Most of us care a lot less about whatever abstract shit marxists jerk off over, and a lot more about the tangible political effects they have

[Anonymous No.17994363]

>>17994324
This>>17994277

[Anonymous No.17994368]

>>17994334
dishonest.

[Anonymous No.17994392]

>>17994368
Bro, you're a retard who thinks post-modernism is marxism.

[Anonymous No.17994394]

>>17993159
>at the end of the day they did set the groundwork for modern critical theory.

And there's nothing in principle wrong with critical theory as long as it stays in a classroom, just like a lot of academic theorizing, but unfortunately some forms of critical theory are very useful to capitalism because it frames groups in a zero-sum competition with eachother which is the exact kind of narrative that makes sure there are no threats to the system.

[Anonymous No.17994413]

that new cod game definitely helped infiltrate every intellectual discourse with cia shills though

[Anonymous No.17994435]

>>17994270
It's a death cult.

[Anonymous No.17994448]

>>17994362
You can't make tangible political decisions without knowing how the actual system works. If you're operating within liberal democracy, you're an automaton for the elites.

[Anonymous No.17994465]

>>17994270
You can be left-wing and religious anon, it's not as uncommon as you think.

[Anonymous No.17994474]

>>17993045
Jazz bad!

[Anonymous No.17994475]

>>17994270
I got chills reading this

[Anonymous No.17994478]

>>17994394
>forms of critical theory are very useful to capitalism

Useful for Marxism for subverting capitalism

[Anonymous No.17994481]

>/pol/ criticises things they don't read or understand
HOLD THE PHONE

[Anonymous No.17994484]

>>17993153
Oh fuck. I'm an elitist who hates pop culture.

[Anonymous No.17994494]

>>17994448
Many people don't agree with Marxists about 'how the actual system works', many people reject liberal democracy without wanting anything related to communism, and action often doesn't require much theory at all.

[Anonymous No.17994502]

>>17994478
No anon... no it's not. It's only useful for funnelling working people's money your way.

[Anonymous No.17994517]

>>17994270
True. I rather give my hope to a fictional god, than to a real human being.

[Anonymous No.17994527]

>>17994502
Imagine if that money had gone into repatriation of African Americans to their ancestral homelands.

[Anonymous No.17994542]

>>17994502
https://www.westernjournal.com/blm-co-founder-buys-million-dollar-home-neighborhood-black-population-less-2/

[Anonymous No.17994543]

>>17994527
Yeah and it would only send back 5000 people, because the bureaucracy would take 90% as overhead.

[Anonymous No.17994544]

>>17994494
Communism doesn't necessarily follow from Marxist analysis. Fascism was actually born from marxist theory. Mussolini was a marxist originally.
Again, Americanksi, you know nothing.

[Anonymous No.17994553]

>>17994543
Just privatise it, bro.

[Anonymous No.17994561]

>>17994544
Which part of
>Many people don't agree with Marxists about 'how the actual system works',
did you not understand you degenerate mouthbreathing imbecile?

[Anonymous No.17994568]

>>17994544
True but I actually think italian fascism had some good art and ideas.

[Anonymous No.17994572]

>>17994544
Mussolini explicitly rejects Marxism in the doctrine of Fascism. States that have explicitly endorsed Marxist theory include the USSR and CCP

[Anonymous No.17994587]

>>17994568

[Anonymous No.17994611]

>>17994568
>>17994587
Italian and German fascism are a chasm removed.
German fascism is almost capitalist imperialism.
Italy was much less involved with the foreign. Only Abyssinia and Albania were subject to invasion.

[Anonymous No.17994628]

>>17994587
I wonder where I could get stuff that looks like that.

[Anonymous No.17994629]

>>17994572
>Mussolini explicitly rejects Marxism in the doctrine of Fascism.

He does, but he also borrows and outright steals from it.

Pic related.

[Anonymous No.17994641]

>>17994572
He rejected communism as a solution.
He didn't reject the accuracy of marxist analysis (i.e. class conflict and the nature of capitalism), he posited Fascism as a solution instead of communism. Nobody has ever refuted Marx in terms of solely his analysis. Why? Because it is correct. The only question left is what is the solution to the problem?

[Anonymous No.17994662]

go read fellas

[Anonymous No.17994681]

>>17994641
Mussolini does reject the accuracy of Marxist analysis
>Such a conception of life makes Fascism the
resolute negation of the doctrine underlying socalled scientific and Marxian socialism, the doctrine of historic materialism which would explain the history of mankind in terms of the class struggle and by changes in the processes and instruments of production, to the exclusion of all else

Marx has been rejected by countless thinkers, it is laughable to assert there is some sort of consensus that his analysis was correct

[Anonymous No.17994696]

>>17994641
I refute marx, I just did it just then.

[Anonymous No.17994701]

>>17994696
You didn't do shit, manlet. You couldn't even do 10 proper pull ups.

[Anonymous No.17994710]

>>17993045
the vast majority of people criticising "the left" have absolutely no idea what "the left" actually believes, imagine my shock! we see this every single hour of the day in every single thread on this godforsaken website, its nothing new, though im glad you went above and beyond the usual standards of this board and actually fucking read something.

a question to people like >>17993103 or >>17993296 , what makes you have such a strong opinion on something you clearly know nothing about? im genuinely curious.

as usual with these threads, some people are calmly explaining the critical theorists positions and how they differ and align with marxism, while others are spurting out the usual pre-programmed /pol/ driven about le death of le epic western civilisation and embarassing misreadings or fabricated quotes from people like kalergi (who, by the way, was a pan-european nationalist) or other random people who have nothing to do with the topic of the thread.
are you dishonest or just really badly misinformed?

[Anonymous No.17994712]

>>17994587

[Anonymous No.17994713]

>>17994681
Nobody has ever rejected class conflict. They proposed solutions and copes. Dyel manlet who can't bench 140kg.

[Anonymous No.17994717]

>>17994701
I can actually do 40.
No evidence inside marx's shit book, nothing he's said has ever been proven. Goodbye the end, and I wasn't the first person to refute him.

[Anonymous No.17994732]

>>17994701
I can do 16 1-handed too. Just tested then.

[Anonymous No.17994740]

>>17994713
Many people have rejected it as the sole or primary determinant of historical development, as well as rejected the class descriptions Marx had themselves to varying degrees.

We have gotten quite off the original point though haven't we, which was the historical relation between self-avowed Marxists and Communist political agitation.

[Anonymous No.17994750]

>>17994641
>Nobody has ever refuted Marx in terms of solely his analysis.

Liberals do. They claim it doesn't matter that capitalism is exploitative because it makes cheap shit and workers get a better standard of living and most workers agree with them.

[Anonymous No.17994793]

>>17994712
Sucks so bad that Italy had to side with the Axis.

[Anonymous No.17994806]

>/pol/yps getting mad at things they dont understand but have been taught to hate thread #4829582
its getting boring, just read something before you try to refute marx, adorno and baudrillard at the same time by posting a fabricated quote from some no-name liberal

[Anonymous No.17994833]

>>17994740
>>17994750
You will never bench 140kg + INCEL

[Anonymous No.17994839]

>>17994806
None of you have replied to my post where I outlined what I don't like that Adorno wrote
>>17993986

[Anonymous No.17994851]

>>17994710
Why do you belief that what the critical theorists say and write is what they actually want to archive? I simply don't trust them.

[Anonymous No.17994866]

>>17994793

[Anonymous No.17994869]

>>17994851
>I believe in my paranoia instead

[Anonymous No.17994875]

this entire thread seems to have forgotten marcuse existed

[Anonymous No.17994888]

>>17994869
I rather trust my instincts instead of any philosophy or ideology.

[Anonymous No.17994905]

>>17994851
they were academics far removed from the average man, why would they write something they dont actually believe?
the only reason you interpret some nefarious plot into what you THINK they wrote, is because some paranoid schizophrenic on an imageboard said so, clearly not because youve read them.

[Anonymous No.17994922]

>>17993296
people will say his wrong, but every major figure of the frankfurt school literally thought this

[Anonymous No.17994934]

>>17994905
Do you think academia is some cultural vacuum uninfluenced by power dynamics

[Anonymous No.17994939]

>>17994888
>i rather trust my instincts
>when making judgements about an entire diverse school of though (without bothering to read their work let alone their wikipedia pages)
why are you on /lit/ - literature?

[Anonymous No.17994953]

>>17994905
>why would they write something they dont actually believe?

I don't, but normal people don't life in an ivory tower where they can think outside reality, so they need to manipulate us to believe their nonsense.

[Anonymous No.17994972]

>>17994934
stop strawmanning, at least be intellectually honest. no anon, academia is not an absolute cultural vacuum, but the average people do not give a shit about what some academics write. if they were in it to "subvert culture" or whatever the voices tell you their goals were, they would be in public, making mass media or some shit. not autistically critiquing how capitalism influences culture.

[Anonymous No.17994985]

>>17994888
t. DYEL tw*nk who can't squat 180kg for a single rep
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.17994995]

>>17994972
Do you know where the important people in various government sectors, NGOs, the press, etc. come from, where their worldviews are molded? Oh right

But of course such an institution would have absolutely no incentive to change the topic from their massive influence and control over culture to a description of how it is actually 'capitalism', as an abstract force, that is controlling everything.

[Anonymous No.17994997]

>>17994939
That I trust my instincts more does not mean that I don't read

[Anonymous No.17995012]

>>17994953
>>why would they write something they dont actually believe?
>I don't
what were you trying to say here?

>so they need to manipulate us to believe their nonsense.
ok, give me one (1) example where someone from the frankfurt school influenced others by means other than writing a book and people reading it or hearing them speak.
clearly this covert manipulation isnt working so well since you people still think they were some cultural marxists trying to subvert the west or something, when in reality they spent a lot of their energy lamenting how capitalism is bastardizing much of traditional european culture.

[Anonymous No.17995022]

>>17994972
Of course the wouldn't make it in public, they would go for the institutions and manipulate public indirect.

[Anonymous No.17995032]

>>17995012

[Anonymous No.17995044]

>>17994995
god i fucking wish western governments, media, NGOs and press took influence from the frankfurt school. sadly, most dont, and the ones that do are some niche artists or small scale journalists at best.
anon, there is no point to this. you cannot critique something you only know from /pol/tards raving conspiracy theories. just read a book.

if the frankfurt school had any actual influence on mainstream culture, many of the things you dislike about it propably wouldnt be there. the insane prevalence of identity politics, the marketisation of daily life, the constant virtue signaling from billion dollar companies, all are results of capitalism and are the very things the frankfurt school theorists hated.

[Anonymous No.17995058]

>>17995044
Once again, reply to my post here>>17993986
The anti-Christian, anti-white, anti-family/patriarchy views in that book obviously have been very influential

[Anonymous No.17995059]

>>17995032
literal schizophrenia
if you are not genuinely mentally ill, you should be embarassed

[Anonymous No.17995085]

>>17995012
>when in reality they spent a lot of their energy lamenting how capitalism is bastardizing much of traditional european culture

That capitalist system they already infiltratet? So they can fully abolish traditional culture.

[Anonymous No.17995100]

[Anonymous No.17995106]

>>17995058
i havent read the authoritarian personality, so i cant speak on that
although i find it very hard to believe that this simplified "anti-white/christian" view is a faithful reading of adorno given his clear passion for european history and tradition.
be honest anon, have you read the book in full? or are you going off of what someone on 4chan said the book was about?

[Anonymous No.17995119]

>>17995085
let me spell it out in a way you could maybe understand.
ADORNO LIKE TRADITIONAL CULTURE
ADORNO THINK CAPITALISM DESTROY TRADITIONAL CULTURE
ADORNO WANT TO PRESERVE TRADITIONAL CULTURE BY DESTROYING CAPITALISM

[Anonymous No.17995127]

>>17995106
He explicitly characterizes the views as irrational and hateful(he doesn't actually explain why they are, just seems to think it's self-evident), and then explicitly states they are correlated with religiosity, respect for one's parents, and respect for one's race, but the only group he is talking about is White Christians. At no point did Adorno ever apply this analysis to his own ethnicity, Jewish people.

[Anonymous No.17995135]

>>17995127
>DA JOOZ

[Anonymous No.17995139]

>>17995127
can you give me a source on that?

[Anonymous No.17995141]

/POL/TARDS EXPOSED AS DYEL TWINKS WHO CAN'T LIFT WEIGHTS
Ohnonononononononoonono

[Anonymous No.17995146]

>>17995135
Why exactly is Adorno allowed to criticize White Christians for being ethnocentric or authoritarian, but is beyond the pale to apply the exact same analysis to his own ethnicity?

[Anonymous No.17995148]

>>17993045
>Realize these guys are actually pretty reactionary
I think you could take quotes from Frankfurt School guys like Adorno and make little quotable images with Julius Evola saying it instead and /pol/ would be like "woah, that's deep."

[Anonymous No.17995160]

/pol/ would be empty if every one of them was forced to actually read one book by any of the authors they claim to hate
It would even be like that if they actually read Nietzsche, and not just looked at a picture of a Greek statue with "become the Übermensch" on it

[Anonymous No.17995165]

>>17995139
The source is the book itself

[Anonymous No.17995169]

>>17995146
show us where adorno explicitly singles out white people in his criticisms. i highly doubt he did.

[Anonymous No.17995178]

>>17995169
The authoritarian personality studies White Christians, it does not study how ethnocentric any other group is.

[Anonymous No.17995181]

>>17995165
since you (claim to) have read it and i havent, i thought you could provide us with a quote or page number in which adorno specifically singles out white people in his writings about the authoritarian personality.

[Anonymous No.17995200]

>>17995181
>The findings of the study may be expected to hold fairly well for non-Jewish, white, native-born, middle-class Americans
pg 23, in the Introduction

[Anonymous No.17995214]

>>17995148
Lmao that image is perfect
Same could be applied to pretty much anything Foucault and Baudrillard wrote about societies of control and sign value as well (with some more modern right wing idiot attached to it), which is even funnier to me

[Anonymous No.17995217]

>>17995178
oh, i see. doesnt that answer your question? the book studies white christians. thats why it doesnt include people outside of that group.
why he specifically chose that group, im not sure, maybe its because that group historically has been most receptive to fascism, which you know, is what the book is about, at least in part. maybe you can find a justification or reasoning behind choosing this group to study in your copy.

[Anonymous No.17995218]

>>17995119
Ok, belief what ever the jews tells you.

[Anonymous No.17995229]

>>17993351
I did a project on the destruction of the family unit back in highschool. Theres a plethora of plain as day quotes from their works. Stop larping.

[Anonymous No.17995230]

>>17993591
having a trad family is the most punk thing you can do in today's day and age.

[Anonymous No.17995231]

>>17995217
That he chose that group and never applied the analysis to any other group, is itself a fact of significance. Are whites in fact more prone to ethnocentrism and 'authoritarian' tendencies than Jews? We don't know because there is no equivalent study for Jews.

[Anonymous No.17995239]

>>17995200
read >>17995217

>>17995218
seriously, what are you doing on /lit/? you dont read, dont want to read, and even if someone spoonfeeds you something that completely contradicts your point all you can come up with is DA JOOOOOOZ
why are you on this board?

[Anonymous No.17995247]

[Anonymous No.17995248]

>>17994611
>ignores Libya and Ethipia for lolz
kek

[Anonymous No.17995255]

>>17993045
When /pol/ talks about the Frankfurt School they actually mean Herbert Marcuse, and he literally worked with the CIA and promoted neo-marxism/socialism of the new left.

[Anonymous No.17995258]

>>17995248
Libya was colonised a long time ago, Abyssinia was Ethiopia.

[Anonymous No.17995259]

>>17995239
Because it's fun to mock people like you.

[Anonymous No.17995291]

>>17995258
>Abyssinia was Ethiopia.
huh

[Anonymous No.17995299]

[Anonymous No.17995303]

>>17993045
>>17993048
The modern SJW marxist cancer really started with this man

[Anonymous No.17995312]

>>17995239
>you dont read, dont want to read, and even if someone spoonfeeds you something that completely contradicts your point all you can come up with is DA JOOOOOOZ
It's a funny thing, but I've read some former white nationalists (or whatever) who got out of that because they realized suddenly that most of the people they were surrounding themselves with are just complete fucking morons.

https://youtu.be/HKv6GQvyWW8?t=99

[Anonymous No.17995314]

>>17995303
Nah, it all started with pic rel

[Anonymous No.17995316]

>>17993231

[Anonymous No.17995317]

>>17994324

[Anonymous No.17995322]

>>17995303
Gramsci owns. One of my favorite Marxists.

[Anonymous No.17995328]

What does he mean with that?

[Anonymous No.17995346]

>>17995316
Kek

[Anonymous No.17995347]

>>17995230
>being punk just means you're a contrarian
/pol/ truly is just a bunch of edgelords that never got over being unpopular in high school it seems

[Anonymous No.17995356]

>>17995328
Precuperation

[Anonymous No.17995358]

>>17995312
i hope more people would realize that, although if you yourself are already severely mentally challenged i doubt you will recognize your peers retardation as a reason to rethink your positions.
i used to consider myself an "anti SJW race realist free market absolutist" a number of years ago too, and didnt realize the people i got those ideas from were retarded since, well, i was too.

[Anonymous No.17995369]

>>17995347
even the thought that having a "trad" family is somehow contrarian shows how little they know of the real world. entire lives spent on the internet.

[Anonymous No.17995375]

>>17995239
see>>17995231

[Anonymous No.17995393]

>>17995358
What is your position today?

[Anonymous No.17995398]

>>17995369
trad families are literally illegal lmao, marriage as it existed in 1750 or whatever is outlawed

[Anonymous No.17995404]

>>17995375
youre right that the group chosen has significance. he studied authoritarianism and fascism right after WW2. it makes sense then to study the people who were on the benefitting side of those, no?
>ethnocentrism
pure pseudoscience

[Anonymous No.17995406]

>In 1955, Lipset presented his adaptation of their work, a paper on “working-class authoritarianism,” delivered before the anti-Communist, social democratic Congress for Cultural Freedom. The one puzzling problem with The Authoritarian Personality, for Lipset, was the editors’ “oversight” in not including Communists among those with morbid psychic traits.

[Anonymous No.17995416]

>>17995404
It makes sense if you dishonestly conflate the 'authoritarian' measures involved with your meme category of fascism, while ignoring their existence in other ideologies.
>pure pseudoscience
Take it up with Adorno, there is an entire section in the Authoritarian Personality dedicated to the link between white ethnocentricism and Fascism. Of course it is never allowed to evaluate this same claim for Jews

[Anonymous No.17995422]

>>17993045
>Realized /pol/ lied to me
Oh really?

[Anonymous No.17995439]

>>17993048
I don't get why retards are always supportive of age of consent laws. Probably because you aren't capable of getting a young attractive woman. NOOO WOMEN CAN'T BE INTIMIATE UNTIL 18 AND IF YOU DISAGREE YOU'RE A PEDO. You faggots are against nature and God.

[Anonymous No.17995445]

>>17995393
marxist-leninist
>>17995416
from reading some summaries and descriptions, he explicitly talked a lot about fascism in particular. i thought you'd read it, no? i am aware that adorno was also highly critical of the soviet union, if thats what you wanna hear. but as ive said, i havent read the authoritarian personality.
>Take it up with Adorno
you might have a point here. from what ive read about it, the authoritarian personality seems pretty flawed.
im not here to defend something i havent read, im just pointing out that your sectarian /pol/yp readings of adorno might be false.
>da jooz
grow up.

[Anonymous No.17995450]

>>17995312
>>17995358

[Anonymous No.17995454]

>>17993619
lol, a pol chart that says we need MORE democracy, interesting

[Anonymous No.17995464]

>>17995439
It should be whenever puberty occurs, but it is best for partners to be around the same age. Because of chemicals puberty happens way earlier now, this is a problem

[Anonymous No.17995468]

>>17993165
This anon gets it.

[Anonymous No.17995472]

>>17995445
>>da jooz
>grow up.
Why does applying the exact same analysis Adorno did to Whites onto Jews provoke you to say 'da jooz' like that? Can you explain your thought process?

[Anonymous No.17995490]

>>17995445
>anti SJW race realist free market absolutist
>marxist-leninist

Interesting, I've become more of a fascist.

[Anonymous No.17995515]

>>17995472
the fact that you insist on constantly mentioning the jews makes me think youre not exactly arguing in good faith. this is just /bluepol/ after all. why specifically mention them instead of just saying "other groups"? can you explain your thought process?
>>17995490
why? is it just 4channels general influence or something in particular?

[Anonymous No.17995520]

>>17995515
>why specifically mention them instead of just saying "other groups"? can you explain your thought process?
Because Adorno specifically mentions how Whites feel about Jews in his antisemitism section. I think it's only balanced to see how Jews feel about Whites and Christianity. But I'm entirely in agreement with you, let's test every group and see how they rank for ethnocentrism, not just Whites and Jews.

[Anonymous No.17995549]

Is this what happen to the western world?

[Anonymous No.17995578]

>>17995520
id assume it is mentioned since antisemitism played a huge role in large parts of the fascist movements years before the book was written. of course it would be balanced to examine the reverse, it would just not be relevant to what adorno tried to study.

ethnocentrism as an intrinsic property of any ethnic group that can be measured and quantified is an idiotic idea. ethnic groups are shaped through their material conditions and ideas like ethnocentrism are completely removed from biologically measurable quantities.

[Anonymous No.17995589]

>>17995578
sidenote - i think adornos "f-scale" is just as idiotic of an idea as ethnocentrism or the idea of a measurable general intelligence.

[Anonymous No.17995602]

>>17995515
It's seems the best and only position for me after the fall of liberalism.

[Anonymous No.17995614]

>>17995578
And Adorno's book by choosing to specifically denigrate white ethnocentrism played a contributing role in the anti-white movements that culminated in mass immigration and a culture in which it is impermissible for whites to openly advocate their own racial interests, while every other ethnicity can and is encouraged to do so.

[Anonymous No.17995696]

>>17995490
>Interesting, I've become more of a fascist.
I think the problem with this kind of thing is that it's like anarchism in reality (which most self-identified anarchists and fascists are in complete denial about). These are self-identified Italian fascists:

https://youtu.be/P6EtKqf33E4

It's a violent, combative position. They believe in violence and aggression -- against the whole society! They're driving past people on the highway and leaning out the window and screaming at them. I suppose they're trying to capture a kind of rebelliousness. But I think it becomes like a slave morality, since everyone else is opposed to them, that just proves their authenticity (to them), and that ends being self-defeating. Feels more like a pose to me and about feels over realz.

>>17995614
I think mass immigration has less to do with a book, but because someone has to pick tomatoes. Do you want to go out and work in a field? Maybe you do, and that's great, but try convincing a bunch of white zoomers whose dads are computer touchers and restaurant owners who also have a second house they rent out to go out and work in agriculture or kitchen jobs or whatever.

[Anonymous No.17995712]

>>17995696
>I think mass immigration has less to do with a book, but because someone has to pick tomatoes.
The book is simply another cultural artifact to add onto the giant heap of academic texts supporting this movement, as well as related movements like feminism. People would pick the tomatoes, they would just have to be paid more because workers would have more bargaining power, the state could also subsidize it as it does all sorts of industries.

This argument oddly often doesn't apply to Israel. The ADL is perfectly comfortable simultaneously advocating for Israel to maintain its Jewish majority, even citing the danger of high Palestinian birth rates; and advocating that the US open its borders, and that it is dangerous racism for anyone to oppose this.

[Anonymous No.17995724]

>Being an elitist modernist is the same as being reactionary
You guys don't have the sense of nuance required to deal with these things.

[Anonymous No.17995755]

>>17995712
>workers would have more bargaining power
This is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about though, for all this rebelliousness that fascists present, you still think you can bargain with your capitalist masters. They have moved millions of manufacturing jobs from the western countries to third-world countries -- no immigration required for that. Fascism is like a kind of social democracy in a sense, it's a nationalist social democracy, but what use do the capitalists have for social democracy anymore? I suspect the rate of profit overall in the global economy is not high enough to sustain it anymore.

>This argument oddly often doesn't apply to Israel. The ADL is perfectly comfortable simultaneously advocating for Israel to maintain its Jewish majority, even citing the danger of high Palestinian birth rates; and advocating that the US open its borders, and that it is dangerous racism for anyone to oppose this.
You want western countries to be more like Israel? Blegh.

[Anonymous No.17995769]

>>17995755
I am not a Fascist, but the actual Fascists themselves were explicitly ethnocentric and opposed to multiculturalism so your critique here does not make much sense. It's not about bargaining with capitalists, Hitler and Mussolini didn't bargain, they told them what to do.

And of course it's still possible, again look at Israel, which is not even close to full on Fascist, it's just not going full tilt into the idiocy you see in USA or Western Europe.

[Anonymous No.17995776]

>>17995614
>completely goes off topic and lists of /pol/tard internet brained pathologies
pottery

[Anonymous No.17995779]

>>17995776
The topic of the entire thread is whether Adorno's writing is opposed to the ideologies you typically see in /pol/ you retard

[Anonymous No.17995786]

What about slavs, are they immune to this?

[Anonymous No.17995802]

>>17995769
>It's not about bargaining with capitalists, Hitler and Mussolini didn't bargain, they told them what to do.
lol that's some BS. They were helped into power from those guys and they had whole systems behind them. I think this kind of leader worship on the right is a moral failing, it's the Fuhrerprinzip in which the leader can do no wrong, and if they do wrong, then they get dumped into history. You're not a fascist or you don't like Hitler? Or you do? This inability to own up to one's convictions is a sign of moral cowardice, too.

>And of course it's still possible, again look at Israel, which is not even close to full on Fascist, it's just not going full tilt into the idiocy you see in USA or Western Europe.
You're a Zionist

[Anonymous No.17995831]

>>17995802
>They were helped into power from those guys and they had whole systems behind them.
Yes but they were not beholden to them, they had actual power. And I believe you are accusing me of doing what you are doing yourself wrt lack of nuance. I can think Hilter and the Nazis did certain good things while also thinking the bad things they did were bad enough to condemn them beyond the point I could support that ideology. That's not moral cowardice. Mussolini was more defensible but I have basic problems with Fascism that extend beyond the Nazi genocides.

As for Zionism, I have no problem with Jews maintaining their own country, and the very idea I should care about this is utterly bizarre to me. Apart from their influence on my own country, whatever that may be, what they do in their country is not my business. I am also not a ethnonationalist myself, I have no problem with my country having multiple races seeing as we already do have them, it's the ongoing mass immigration that is piling new problems up every day.

[Anonymous No.17995854]

The frankfurt school was actually a lot influenced by conservative and fascist writers like heidegger or carl schmitt, even if they not admit it in their time.

[Anonymous No.17995865]

>>17993909
What about the human variable?

[Anonymous No.17995877]

>>17995854
And even if heidegger and adorno used different ways of thinking and hate each other, they came to similar results in their works.

[Anonymous No.17995986]

>>17995398
Nigga how many countries in the world have outlawed marriage between a man and a woman? Or do you mean perhaps "i cannot hit my wife anymore and she doesn't have as much time to wash my undies, this is the worst possible outcome of history"

[Anonymous No.17995994]

>>17993045
Lol, you got baited into learning.

[Anonymous No.17996061]

>>17995986
If she's not my property why I should marry st all?

[Anonymous No.17996165]

>>17995696
You don't need to send people out in the fields. What happens instead is that labour intensive crops that need workers to pick them become prohibitively expensive so instead people consume crops which can be harvested by machines. Mass immigration is literally holding back progress as cheap labour ALWAS has. I want low labour agriculture but I can't have it because retards like you keep defending mass immigration because "lol who will pick the fruit?"

[Anonymous No.17996186]

>>17995854
This iss true. Adorno is kind of heideggerian leftist. Very close in the dialectic of enlightenment to the idea of the gestell

[Anonymous No.17996243]

>>17995986

[Anonymous No.17996289]

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[Anonymous No.17996309]

Learning about Sabbataean Frankism is a bigger redpill than learning about “the Frankfurt School.” Some of the stuff from the Frankfurt School (like Adorno’s pathologizing of “the authoritarian personality”) still has a big influence today but to attribute all this modern social justice multiculti nonsense we have to just one philosophical school is a hypothetical speculation that can turn people off.

The ideology is pushed by groups like the UN, the Rockefeller Foundation, etc., and it trickles down to politicians, the media, and the education system, wherever the ideology originally came from this is still how it pretty much works. Multiculturalism is because the bankers and big corporations want a bigger supply of cheap labor. They also want a bigger voting base for the progressive/left-wing parties they usually work through. Feminism was/is also a good source of a bigger labor pool (more competition, decrease wages for all). The transgender agenda is also a big source of money for the healthcare industry, and possibly ties into the population reduction agenda, as well as all the pharmaceutical runoff (including estrogen and other hormone/endocrine disrupters like Bisphenol A) in our food, water, plastic packaging, absorbed through our skin from store receipts etc.

Some more out-there theorists also claim it’s tied to the transhuman agenda (get people used to thinking gender is fluid and can be changed through surgery and hormones, that paves the way for making more radical alterations to our body eventually).

At the top the elites don’t really care about the social justice nonsense, they just use it as a shield to push their agenda. Like when the news says recently “The withdrawal from Afghanistan could be disastrous for women’s rights there.” Disastrous for oil companies and defense contractors, more like.

[Anonymous No.17996312]

>>17993048
Cunny is right wing

[Anonymous No.17996340]

>>17996243
my mom is a communist feminist and she is like the “””tradwife””” on the right

[Anonymous No.17996355]

>>17995696
Trying to call it slave morality is a stretch. Slave morality is the domineering morality currently so master morality, by the switching of positions, somewhat has "taken the place" of where slave morality used to be, but that doesn't make it slave morality.
The only way I think it could be called "slave morality" is that many in it seem to have expected a kind of "you help me and I help you" morality in their lives but have learned that the Herd is just as cruel and uncaring when they feel they have social license to be.

[Anonymous No.17996370]

>>17993048
The French have been ruining everything since 1789.

[Anonymous No.17996404]

This thread is over.

[Anonymous No.17996410]

>>17993048
Based French. Only old hags are in favour of age of consent.

[Anonymous No.17996431]

>>17993744
can confirm. used to browse /pol/, but i realized they were retard hypocrites after seeing them worship trump
>>17993763
big words for someone who doesn't read anything

[Anonymous No.17996444]

>>17996340
Doesn't it contradict her position?

[Anonymous No.17996456]

>>17996404

[Anonymous No.17996466]

>>17996431
>le epin chinese pedo cartoon laydee
ooooooooooo what the heckerino so basedooo

[Anonymous No.17996501]

>>17994628
You can comission furniture from craftsmen just like any piece of art. Look up high end furniture companies that recreate whatever you want.

[Anonymous No.17996535]

>>17994587
very satanic vibes

[Anonymous No.17996536]

>>17993581

[Anonymous No.17996540]

>>17994168

[Anonymous No.17996570]

>>17993081
>How can people hold such strong opinions on a topic while knowing literally nothing about it, and then convince others to their point of view?
hmmmmmmm

[Anonymous No.17996572]

>>17993045
They aren't really reactionary though? For whatever belief you identify as "reactionary" from someone in critical theory, it usually carries with it the underlying assumption (based on no evidence) that Communism will more or less resolve it. That's hardly "reactionary". Though it is a bit funny how Adorno can sound like reactionary and some of Horkheimer's work could be mistaken for a Traditional Catholic historiography...

[Anonymous No.17996580]

>>17995614
dude "white ethnocentrism" is the only one that mattered, or are you going to pretend that the world wars were substantially concerned with jingoistic non-whites?
>>17995712
>israel does it!
this is good?
>>17996165
what about imported high labor agriculture? desu that other anon's point doesn't make sense considering this either. it seems more to boost the diversity in sectors a country competes in so it doesn't get too dependant?
>>17996309
>The transgender agenda is also a big source of money for the healthcare industry
wut

[Anonymous No.17996581]

>>17995322
He's wrong (not surprising since he's a Marxist after all). Intellectuals are superior to craftsmen since they can do what craftsmen do but are craftsmen smart enough to do what intellectuals do? No, that's why they are craftsmen.

[Anonymous No.17996586]

>>17996466
you don't read, you don't like anime. why are you on this site? get a life normalfag

[Anonymous No.17996588]

>>17996580
>>The transgender agenda is also a big source of money for the healthcare industry
>wut
They get a lot of money from the hormones and surgeries they sell.

[Anonymous No.17996599]

>>17993081
>>17993098
There is an element of truth to this. When someone refers to "political correctness" "cancel culture" etc. it in theory could apply to any society that demands its citizens hold certain beliefs, or else. However, in the US what this actually means is "adherence to radicalized victimary morality", which is largely descended from Northern mainline Protestant sects. However, radicalized victimary morality in itself is also a reaction to fascism, and it would be incorrect to say that critical theory types played no role here, because they were largely reacting to fascism in the first place (at least shortly after WW2).

[Anonymous No.17996619]

>>17994866
Is this italian futurism?

[Anonymous No.17996625]

>>17993045
The only reason you are all /pol/tards is that the Trumptard backers adopted Gramsci and the Frankfurt/Cultural Marxist communication theories in order to disseminate disinformation and divisiveness, by playing off of your incel insecurity and innate self of helplessness
At least SJWs and Commies have actual social skills and get laid, instead of spending all day shitposting and reeeing about how misunderstood your trad LARP is

>>17993048
Like this. The only thing you can post is some unrelated pedoscare meme because you are completely illiterate ignoramuses

[Anonymous No.17996641]

>>17996588
please sauce the actual intake of cash from trannies in proportion to general sector

[Anonymous No.17996651]

>>17996536

[Anonymous No.17996652]

>>17996625
>The only reason you are all /pol/tards is that the Trumptard backers adopted Gramsci and the Frankfurt/Cultural Marxist communication theories in order to disseminate disinformation and divisiveness, by playing off of your incel insecurity and innate self of helplessness
I think people became /pol/tards in reaction to third world immigration, mostly. I don't think there are any "cultural Marxist communication theories" at work here.

[Anonymous No.17996680]

>>17993045
you didn't read them close enough

>some bourgeoise and feudal institutions might have preserved culture/society BUT THEY HAVE TO GO

[Anonymous No.17996708]

>>17996651

[Anonymous No.17996710]

>>17993986
Most people excuse that by even fans of Adorno considering that one to be his weakest work and theorize that maybe he just wrote it to get a university position in the US.

[Anonymous No.17996723]

>>17996708

[Anonymous No.17996728]

>>17996652
>I don't think there
That's right, you don't. And it's a simple fact.
>>17996599
Cancel culture is just ostracism. Anyone who went to school, had a job, or lived in a small community will be familiar with how it works. Just because it's on Twitter, or because it has a new flavor of the week doesn't make it different.

You all think your newsfeed squabbles are new and different, but you are ignorant, which makes you easy targets. There is nothing new to any of it.

[Anonymous No.17996741]

>>17993045
Yeah, /pol/'s very wrong about the Frankfurt School. Anyone who's been in a humanities program in the last decade knows all the SJWs detest the Frankfurt guys.

[Anonymous No.17996748]

>>17996625
Good bait, but everyone knows how ugly commies are

[Anonymous No.17996756]

>>17993045
Somebody explain to me this weird affinity leftypol has for gaslighting. I've never seen anyone who is not from leftypol unironically spam false flag posts or blatant lies about how things were. /pol/tards will call you a retard, a jew, or a glowie, but I don't think I've ever seen any of them unironically gaslight this hard.

[Anonymous No.17996761]

>>17996728
>Cancel culture is just ostracism.
No shit, it's the specific behaviors that now merit ostracization(an ever evolving code of conduct on the forefront of prog lunacy) that is in question, and the united front of academia, large corporations, government agencies, the press, etc. makes for a basically totalitarian imposition of doctrine.

[Anonymous No.17996774]

>>17996748
We all know there's a reason /pol/ could only ever exist on an anonymous shitposting site

[Anonymous No.17996780]

>>17996723

[Anonymous No.17996781]

>>17996748
They are ugly, true, but so are the fascists and trad LARPers. Good looking people are always just vaguely liberal.

[Anonymous No.17996786]

>>17996761
kek
Put on your tinfoil hat
You are full of shit
And that too is nothing new

[Anonymous No.17996789]

>>17996774
I bet this poster unironically accuses others of having 'daddy complexes' while he posts this image of his handsome dictator idol lmao

[Anonymous No.17996790]

>>17996625
>muh sex
Why are Americans like this?

[Anonymous No.17996804]

>>17995854
Nah. They're just Hegelians with marxist and freudian dressing on top.

[Anonymous No.17996812]

>>17996774
>dictator of country known for altering photographs
>posts picture of himself while young
>trust me this is me

[Anonymous No.17996817]

>>17996781
The most beautiful women are the ones who believe in God.

[Anonymous No.17996822]

>>17996789
Awwww who's bringing up Daddy Complexes and talking about dictator idols while defending /pol/ and the trad fascist LARP against the uuuuuggo commies
I swear if any of you fuckers had half a brain you would no fun at all
Now pull the other, little /pol/tard

[Anonymous No.17996827]

>>17995696
>this post
This is why you don't trust anybody who can't make a single coherent argument, with no buzzwords from his philosophy 101 freshman class that he doesn't even really understand.

[Anonymous No.17996832]

>>17996641
Here’s a picture of a tweet anon. That’s the most you’re getting from me. You should be glad I’m even giving you this much. Now say thank you.

[Anonymous No.17996855]

>>17996817
No, as they say DC is just Hollywood for ugly people. Most conservative politicians are ugly. Whoever made that image just found the best looking ones. Though I do think women who believe in God tend to look healthier.

[Anonymous No.17996856]

>>17994710
You're nowhere near as intelligent or even knowledgeable as you think you are.

[Anonymous No.17996859]

>>17996832
>a picture of a tweet
This is the level. You're pissing yourself in public for our entertainment, and you don't even realize.

[Anonymous No.17996884]

>>17996855
>women who believe in God tend to look healthier.

Because they read healthy books.

[Anonymous No.17996885]

>>17996859
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alyssawright/2020/12/08/trans-tech-is-a-budding-industry-so-why-is-no-one-investing/

[Anonymous No.17996888]

>>17994213
Habermas maybe?
That might be wrong, I don’t read a lot of theory

[Anonymous No.17996894]

>>17994270
>pick wrong one
>get sent to double hell

[Anonymous No.17996900]

>>17996859
Fucking moron, you can Google the quote in the tweet and find the article like someone just did for you. Lazy tranny fuck.

[Anonymous No.17996923]

>>17996900
>Froggers pissing themselves to feel warm
Go on, sweetie, tell dem tannies, mommy so poud yu get extta tendies

[Anonymous No.17996934]

>>17996370
Fuck Monarchy, you pleb

[Anonymous No.17996953]

>>17993081
But they ARE their precursors? The beef Adorno et al. had with the Enlightenment literally comes back to figures like Maurras using positivist thought to rationalize their antisemitism and other Bad Thinks according to Adorno et al. One Maurras was enough for them to have a violent allergic reaction to the entire positivist tradition that was arguably a much bigger deal on the left side of things than on the right, all because of fucking Maurras and his action francaise, and a couple other proto-fascist Bad Thinkers.

The blatant lack of self-reflexivity that you see among mainstream liberals is 100% continuous with the lack of self-reflexivity that Adorno et al. shown : they don't argue for ANY of the points they're making, they naively proceed from the preconception that they're right from the get-go, and if you don't see why that is, you're a priori thrown into the garbage bin for being what is more or less ahistorical drag on the unflinching march of the Dialectic.

[Anonymous No.17996989]

>>17996953
>The blatant lack of self-reflexivity that you see among mainstream liberals
Is the default state. It is the same as Conservatism, and Fascism, and all the traditional ideologies that /pol/simps espouse. Exactly because it has no self-reflexivity. It is just pure ideology.
Which makes it so much more entertaining to have /pol/tards reee over Cultural Marxism and SJW's when they are just the mirror image of themselves.
Stupidity never changes, and retards never stop being amusing.

[Anonymous No.17997016]

>>17996989
This post is astonishingly dumb, did you even read what you are responding to

[Anonymous No.17997026]

>>17996812
>>17996774
Now the real unaltered picture

[Anonymous No.17997046]

>>17996989
The only thing amusing right now is your arrogance, retard.

[Anonymous No.17997050]

>>17997026
>>17996774
rlly makes you think

[Anonymous No.17997057]

>>17997016
You never read Adorno
>>17997026
>Unaltered
And he still has better skin and is two baby hippos lighter than your average /pol/tard

[Anonymous No.17997058]

>>17997050

[Anonymous No.17997065]

>>17997046
Keep telling yourself you are only pissing yourself because you are amused little /pol/turd

[Anonymous No.17997082]

>>17997057
>And he still has better skin and is two baby hippos lighter than your average /pol/tard
Some sure. At leas on /pol/ there is an encouragement of fitness and improvement of one's self. Something the left is either opposed or just completely unable to nowadays.

[Anonymous No.17997120]

>>17997082
>much /pol/ this, muh /pol/ that

[Anonymous No.17997134]

>>17997082
True

[Anonymous No.17997141]

>>17997065

[Anonymous No.17997181]

>>17995468
unless by "it" you mean "thorazine"

[Anonymous No.17997233]

>>17994189
sounds fine to me desu
as a country, they agreed they didnt want to be responsible for another mass tragedy, so they put down a hard line

[Anonymous No.17997244]

>>17996923

[Anonymous No.17997327]

>>17997141

[Anonymous No.17997574]

>>17993045
>A certain gesture of manliness, be it one’s own, be it that of another, deserves mistrust. It expresses independence, surety of the power of command, the silent conspiracy of all men with each other... The archetype for this is the good looking man in a smoking jacket, who enters his bachelor’s pad alone one late evening, turns on the indirect lighting, and pours a whisky-soda: the carefully recorded fizzing of the mineral water says what the arrogant mouth does not; that he despises whatever does not smell of smoke, leather and shaving cream – above all, women, and for that very reason they swarm all over him. For him, the pinnacle of human relations is the club, the site of a respect founded on a considerate inconsiderateness. The joys of such men, or on the contrary of their models, which hardly anyone alive really matches, for human beings are always better than their culture, have altogether something of the latent act of violence. By all appearances, this is threatened to others, though he has long since had no need to do so, sprawled on his easy chair. In truth it is past violence against himself. If all pleasure sublates earlier displeasure [Unlust], then here displeasure is raised – as pride in bearing it – unmediated, untransformed, stereotypically into pleasure: unlike wine, every glass of whiskey, every puff on the cigar still recalls the reluctance, which it must have cost the organism, to accustom itself to such powerful stimuli. According to their own constitution, the he-men would thus be what they are usually presented as in film scripts, masochists. The lie is concealed in their sadism, and it is as liars that they truly become sadists, agents of repression. That lie is nothing other than repressed homosexuality, which emerges as the only approved form of what is heterosexual. In Oxford one can differentiate between two kinds of students: the “tough guys” [in English in original] and the intellectuals; the latter are equated almost without further ado to those who are effeminate. There is a great deal of evidence that the ruling class polarizes itself according to these extremes on the road to dictatorship. Such disintegration is the secret of integration, of happiness of unity in the absence of happiness. In the end the “tough guys” [in English in original] are the ones who are really effeminate, who require the weaklings as their victims, in order not to admit that they are like them. Totality and homosexuality belong together. While the subject falls apart, it negates everything which is not of its own kind. The opposites of the strong man and the compliant youth fuse into a social order, which unreservedly asserts the masculine principle of domination. By making everyone, without exception – even presumed subjects – into its objects, it recoils into total passivity, virtually into what is feminine.

Adorno was a proto-onions

[Anonymous No.17997751]

>>17997574
What would he know of what goes on in the minds of the "tough guys"?

[Anonymous No.17997976]

>>17993048
Yes, this was foucault. he was a kiddy-fidler who diddled little kids in tunisia. his mate knew, but decided to keep quiet. foucault, do not forget, was a marxist and three-year member of the french communist party.
https://english.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2021/3/28/french-philosopher-michel-foucault-sexually-abused-boys-in-tunisia