Latinoamerican /lit/erature, anyone?

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Anonymous Fri Apr 16 15:48:52 2021 No.18041849 [Reply] [Original]

Latinoamerican /lit/erature, anyone?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 15:57:13 2021 No.18041897 File: 240 KB, 1311x2091, 9780241965955.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18041849 Surprisingly good chart Allow me to recommend Cesar Aira

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 15:58:28 2021 No.18041902 File: 767 KB, 1984x1000, trilogia meme.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18041849

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 15:59:14 2021 No.18041905 >>18041849 What's one book I can read to understand the Hispanic mindset?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 16:29:40 2021 No.18042084 >>18041905 The Labirynth of Solitude

>>	࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDY/Ar.iI Fri Apr 16 19:55:06 2021 No.18043161 File: 665 KB, 372x456, KENNY ANNABELLE.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS: «LATINOAMERICAN LITERATURE»; YOU MEAN: «HISPANOAMERICAN LITERATURE».

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 21:55:18 2021 No.18043729 >>18041849 mario bellatin

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 21:59:49 2021 No.18043755 Ernesto Sabato, his trilogy and essays. Sobre heroes y tumbas is the argentinian NGE.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 22:01:59 2021 No.18043765 >>18043161 Spain doesn't do relevant shit since Unamuno.

>>	࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDY/Ar.iI Fri Apr 16 22:08:04 2021 No.18043805 >>18043765 1. THAT STATEMENT IS FALSE. 2. YOUR REPLY IS A NON SEQVITVR.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 22:11:06 2021 No.18043817 >>18043805 Make a list then. I'm really curious.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 22:13:53 2021 No.18043833 >>18041905 Unironically the Don Quixote.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 22:15:58 2021 No.18043844 >>18043755 >Sobre heroes y tumbas is the argentinian NGE No

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 22:25:07 2021 No.18043889 >>18041849 Adan Buenosayre is shit and Marechal is overrated.

Anonymous Fri Apr 16 22:42:21 2021 No.18043986

>>18041849
nice chart, not sure if urbe's the best intro to vanguard literature though. I had started to make a chart for Latin American novels and short stories, but I never ended up making the chart itself, I'll share the list here once again anyways. Maybe someone'd be interested in finishing it:
1. El túnel – Sábato
2. Aura – Fuentes
3. Pedro Páramo – Rulfo
4. La invención de Morel – Bloy (1940)
5. El coronel no tiene quien le escriba – García Márquez
6. Las armas secretas – Cortázar
7. El arpa y la sombra/el reino de este mundo – Carpentier
8. La casa verde / los cachorros – Vargas Llosa
9. Para una tumba sin nombre – Onnetti
10. Los años falsos / el libro vacío – Vicens
11. La amortajada – María Luisa Bombal
12. La nave de los locos – Peri Rossi
13. Balún Canan –Rosario Castellanos
14. Ficciones – Borges
15. Estrella distante – Bolaño
16. Husipungo - Icaza
17. Azul – Darío
18. Cuentos de amor de locura y de muerte – Quiroga
19. Cuentos de barro- Salarrué
20. El lugar sin límites – Donoso
21. La oveja negra y demás fábulas - Augusto Monterroso
22. Confabulario – Arreola
23. Yawar Fiesta/ El zorro de arriba y el zorro de abajo – Arguedas
24. Maldito Amor - Ferré
25. El señor presidente - Asturias
26. Yo, el supremo - Roa Bastos
27. Los siete locos – Arlt
28. La palabra del mudo – Ribeyro
29. El mundo alucinante – Arenas
30. El señor presidente – Miguel Ángel Asturias
31. Palinuro de México/José Trigo – Fernando del Paso
32. Silvina Ocampo -
33. Juan José Saer

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 22:44:29 2021 No.18043995 >>18043986 Silvina Ocampo is a hack.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 22:49:45 2021 No.18044015 >>18043995 Filtered. She has some really good short stories, but I've only read one of her books and some selections of her stories so I didn't know which to include. What have you read?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 22:51:21 2021 No.18044023 >>18044015 Filter ésta. A shiton of her tales and was shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 22:55:32 2021 No.18044044 What should I read if I know nothing about latin american history? fiction or non

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 22:58:48 2021 No.18044054 >>18044044 La fiesta del chivo by Mario Vargas Llosa.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 22:59:05 2021 No.18044056 What's a good book to read if you want to impress Mexican intellectuals at the coffee shop?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 22:59:19 2021 No.18044058 >>18043161 They all say Latin American

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 23:00:50 2021 No.18044066 >>18044056 Eduardo Galeano's Las venas abiertas de America Latina while listen Manu chao and somke pot. Never fail.

>>	࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDY/Ar.iI Fri Apr 16 23:02:46 2021 No.18044078 >>18044058 1. WHO IS «THEY»? 2. DO YOU HAVE AN ARGUMENT?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 23:03:00 2021 No.18044080 >>18044023 A ver, publica tus libros favoritos para ver si tienes derecho a que se respeten tus opiniones.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 23:04:20 2021 No.18044086 >>18044078 Latin Americans

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 23:04:53 2021 No.18044089 >>18044080 Respect ésta and go read Shitarnik.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 23:09:02 2021 No.18044115 >>18044056 Any Bolaño's shit.

>>	࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDY/Ar.iI Fri Apr 16 23:16:53 2021 No.18044156 >>18044086 ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 23:25:54 2021 No.18044207 >>18044156 Sudacas

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 23:33:43 2021 No.18044253 File: 695 KB, 2400x3672, posts_selectos (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This.

>>	࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDY/Ar.iI Fri Apr 16 23:34:04 2021 No.18044255 >>18044207 IF YOU WILL MERELY POST RANDOM WORDS WITH NO CONTEXT, LOGICAL THREAD, OR ARGUMENT, STOP POSTING.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 23:37:07 2021 No.18044274 >>18044056 farabeuf

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 23:39:35 2021 No.18044295 File: 1.10 MB, 2406x3672, 1616384613636.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18044253 And this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 23:41:21 2021 No.18044305 >>18044255 All phrases are random words put togheter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 23:42:50 2021 No.18044309 File: 38 KB, 400x302, pocho.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pocho here. Which latin-american novels originally written in English are good? Also, are there any originally written in relatively simple Spanish that are any good?

>>	࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDY/Ar.iI Fri Apr 16 23:44:20 2021 No.18044319 >>18044309 >latin-american novels WHAT IS A «LATINOAMERICAN NOVEL»?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 23:47:47 2021 No.18044338 >>18044086 literally his gimmick

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 16 23:48:49 2021 No.18044347 >>18044319 TAKE YOUR MEDS TRIPNIGGER

Anonymous Sat Apr 17 00:01:23 2021 No.18044439

>>18041849
To other spanish speakers in this thread who enjoy poetry:

I highly encourage you to read Altazor, Piedra de sol by Octavio Paz, and Azul by Rubén Darío, instead of the book depicted in this image.

Don't read Urbe, it is a ridiculously corny poem poor in genuis and art of a cathartic communist revolution. It's not the ideological content, of course, but the form what I am complaining about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 00:30:39 2021 No.18044612 >>18044319 suicidate pinche tripnigger, y dile a tu vieja que aborte a mi hijo de mi parte.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 00:33:31 2021 No.18044628 ¿Alguien puede recomendar un buen ensayo acerca de Pedro Páramo? Llevo un tercio de la novela y quisiera algo para complementar mis notas.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 00:36:23 2021 No.18044642 >>18043161 Literally kill yourself disgusting pedophile freak

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 00:53:48 2021 No.18044745 >>18044044 Fiction, always.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 00:55:35 2021 No.18044759 >>18044056 Given that you'e a foreigner probably Pedro Paramo would be very impressive. Even more if you tell them that you're originally a Faulkner fan, and that you could see clearly the influence of Faulkner on Juan Rulfo's novel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 01:05:10 2021 No.18044825 Flip here, I want to learn Spanish. I'm currently doing Vocab memorization of 30 words a day and then practicing grammar 4 days a week. How many words of Spanish should I know at least before I can start reading literature in Spanish?

Anonymous Sat Apr 17 01:12:56 2021 No.18044880

>>18044628
Estos son los mejores me parece:

Estructura temporal y temporalidad en Pedro Páramo - Julio Ortega
La novela de Juan Rulfo, summa de arquetipos - Julio Ortega
Estructuras antropológicas en Pedro Páramo - Anthony Stanton

Si te pasa el análisis teto estructuralista

Los caminos de la eternidad: el valor simbólico del espacio en Pedro Páramo - Luz Aurora Pimentel

Si quieres algo más casual, sin ningún rigor académico y tratando de poetizar las frases

Rulfo, el tiempo del mito - Carlos Fuentes

࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDY/Ar.iI Sat Apr 17 01:13:01 2021 No.18044881

>>18044825
>How many words of Spanish should I know at least before I can start reading literature in Spanish?

MINIMVM THIRTY THOUSAND WORDS IF YOU WANT TO USE A DICTIONARY ONLY EVERY FIFTH PAGE; ONEHUNDRED THOUSAND WORDS IF YOU WANT TO REGARD YOURSELF AS HISPANICALLY LITERATE; YOU CAN START READING NOW ANYWAY SO YOU CAN LEARN MORE WORDS, AND MORE ORGANICALLY, THAN BY MERE ROTE MEMORIZATION.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 01:15:22 2021 No.18044896 >>18041849 I only read argentinian writers. I simply can't digest foreign slang.

Anonymous Sat Apr 17 01:26:29 2021 No.18044951

>>18044825
Have this technique worked for you in any other language or wtf is this?
Anyway, best way to learn a language as an adult is not studying but practicing it in real life / daily situations.
-Become friends with spanish speaking people and chat with them in msn or whatsapp
-If too autistic for that just jump into a mexican server in whatever shit you like to play and start conversations with the players on it, become friends and chat with them, that way you can practice while focusing in something else
-Also, get a sub-esp version of whatever movie you like, and put on the Spanish subtitles while you watch it in english, good way to practice with some kind of insta translation tool
-Never read literature straight away while learning a new language, literary language is very far away / different from daily language, you should master it first in daily situations. Maybe you could read websites. Wikipedia, FB, News webs, etc. Something simple.

࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDY/Ar.iI Sat Apr 17 01:42:21 2021 No.18045010
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>>18044951

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>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 01:56:58 2021 No.18045077 >ctrl f >''Machado de Assis'' >no results you disappoint me /lit/

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 02:48:03 2021 No.18045347 Anyone read Osvaldo Lamborghini?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 07:34:15 2021 No.18046715 >>18045077 >sopa da macaco literature Disgusting.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 07:45:46 2021 No.18046758 >>18046739 Latin women can't write.

>>	࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDY/Ar.iI Sat Apr 17 07:46:16 2021 No.18046761 >>18046715 STOP POSTING, IDIOT.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 07:48:30 2021 No.18046774 >>18046761 Says the tripfag.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 10:19:36 2021 No.18047401 >>18044880 Perfecto. Voy a buscar todos menos el de Pimentel. Muchas gracias, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 10:26:38 2021 No.18047442 >>18047401 >rejecting woman analysis Basado.

Anonymous Sat Apr 17 10:28:50 2021 No.18047453

>>18043817
There are too many to list, I can give you a few of my favorites:
Sanchez Ferlosio
Juan y Luis Goytisolo (mainly Juan, though)
Torrente Ballester
Eduardo Mendoza
Ortega y Gasset,Zubiri and María Zambrano in philosophy.
Gil de Biedma
Julián Marías as essayist and his son Javier Marías as a novelist
Francisco Umbral (probably the best or atleast top 3 of the list)
Pío Baroja
Valle-Inclán (contemporary of Unamuno)
Camilo José Cela
Miguel Delibes
Gomez de la Serna
Julián Ríos
I'm sure I'm missing some others of note, but those are the main ones.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 10:38:54 2021 No.18047508 >>18047453 I'm talking about of the second half of the XX siecle. Plz.

Anonymous Sat Apr 17 10:45:42 2021 No.18047560

>>18047508
Mmmm ok:
Sanchez Ferlosio
Juan y Luis Goytisolo (mainly Juan, though)
Torrente Ballester
Eduardo Mendoza
Maria Zambrano
Gil de Biedma
Julián Marías as essayist and his son Javier Marías as a novelist
Francisco Umbral (probably the best or atleast top 3 of the list)
Pío Baroja
Camilo José Cela
Miguel Delibes
Gomez de la Serna
Julián Ríos
There you have it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 10:52:42 2021 No.18047613 >>18047560 Pio Baroja died in '56. I love him but c'mon. Ok. I'm retarded, contemporary to latam boom to our days. Anyway I check those authors. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 11:38:11 2021 No.18047847 What's your Hispanic pen name, /lit/? Mine is Luis Franco.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 12:00:43 2021 No.18047960 >>18047847 Wtf is a pennis name?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 13:08:30 2021 No.18048392 >>18047613 >contemporary to latam boom to our days Forget the list from that dude,I got you bro. These are the ones you've been looking for: Tiempo de silencio - Luis Martín-Santos Volverás a región - Juan Benet Larva - Julián Ríos

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 13:10:52 2021 No.18048416 >>18048392 Maybe Señas de identidad by Juan Goytisolo also.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 13:11:40 2021 No.18048422 Hola amigos. Cual es un facil el libro espanol? Estoy aprendiendo espanol todavía.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 13:13:03 2021 No.18048438 >>18048422 paradiso

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 13:16:01 2021 No.18048451 >>18041849 Cortazar's hopscotch was pretty underwhelming, maybe i got filtered. his short story collections are great though, easily a couple of straight 10 stories in each collection

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 13:27:19 2021 No.18048549 >>18048392 Thanks. >>18048451 His short stories are the best.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 13:44:11 2021 No.18048674 >>18041849 read La Biblia you are welcome

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 15:24:00 2021 No.18049314 >>18043755 What's NGE? I read Sobre Heroes y Tumbas and I loved it, not an argie though. The Informe sobre ciegos chapter was so out of the rest it took me several reads to finish it

Anonymous Sat Apr 17 15:34:21 2021 No.18049371

>>18045077
I think Machado is pretty nice, and its the only one that would translate well to non-Brazilian readers. Some of my favorite writers like Jorge Amado, Guimarães Rosa and Suassuna would literally make no sense to a non Braziliian and translating to English would automatically kill the book

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 15:36:46 2021 No.18049383 >>18045077 >>18049371 Also Lispector's work can translate well to non-Latinos since it comes from the perspective of burgeois culture which is about one and the same all across the globe

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 15:39:49 2021 No.18049397 >>18048451 Meh, I liked the random thoughts chapters, the main story has a weak end imo. I read it in the first order mentioned in the prologue

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 15:45:20 2021 No.18049431 >>18041849 Lourenço Mutarelli LOURENÇO MUTARELLI Lourenço Mutarelli LOURENÇO MUTARELLI

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 16:19:05 2021 No.18049687 >>18049431 >hue hue uga buga Eso leí.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 16:21:51 2021 No.18049710 >>18049397 same. some chapters, especially the fictional writing of that fictional author, were great. the book overall didnt live up to the hype for me short stories were seriously great

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 16:38:22 2021 No.18049808 >>18041849 Why do you keep making these.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 16:46:15 2021 No.18049869 >>18049808 Not everything is DFaggotW.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 17 19:59:11 2021 No.18051084 >>18048422 Read any book of Mario Vargas Llosa.

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