/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18050208]

So... Anyone here actually read the whole fucking thing?
I mean fuck, I love you Curtis, but this shit is thicker than Lord of the Rings.

[Anonymous No.18051348]

>>18050208

Is there a definitive PDF or ebook?

[Anonymous No.18051473]

>>18051348
Just the website. I'd pay quite a bit for a physical edition too, but I don't think that's ever happening.

[Anonymous No.18051698]

I've read the whole thing 3-4 times. It only takes like 6 weeks to get through the whole thing. Haven't read the vast amount of links and recommended works he has though.

>>18051348
The best series have been published as 5 different ebooks, I recommend "How dawkins got pwned".

[Anonymous No.18051728]

>>18050208
i fucking hate his writing style and i feel like it's deceptively dense/abstruse. I don't believe that he's generally a good faith actor. More of a cheeky manipulator and a pseud that makes people on /lit/ feel intelligent for reading all of his substacks.

[Anonymous No.18051737]

>>18051728
Can you elaborate on why you don't think he's a good faith actor?

[Anonymous No.18051753]

>>18051728
>i fucking hate his writing style and i feel like it's deceptively dense/abstruse.
are we reading the same person? i've always felt like it was deceptively casual and informal. i actually enjoy his prose so much i've found myself reading things he's written that i'm not even interested in

[Anonymous No.18051818]

>>18051728
I second >>18051753 . I've always found his writings pretty clear, but maybe I just got used to that style. The only thing that's a bit pretentious is he occasionally uses an obscure word I have to look up.

The people accusing him of being "bad faith" (whatever that means) are stupid trump supporters because he didn't endorse Trump.

[Anonymous No.18051825]

No

[Anonymous No.18051883]

>>18051818
He's aping Carlyle a Lot of the time.

[Anonymous No.18051972]

>>18050208
read most of the blog around 2008-9, would never have the attention span now. zoomies don't stand a chance

[Anonymous No.18052005]

>>18051698
>I've read the whole thing 3-4 times
What a retard

[Anonymous No.18052024]

>>18052005
seethe

[Anonymous No.18053851]

>>18051737
Just listen to his appearance on Hyperpodcastism, he's obviously a well-read, intelligent guy, but the moment the subject turns to Nazi Germany he turns into a reeing sperg jew making ridiculous claims.

[Anonymous No.18053865]

>>18051728
I can't speak for all rightoids, but as far as I've read into it many of them don't actually believe in the "truth" of the Nation and actually understand post-modernist ideas, like Evola.

They just think that due to a percieved social darwinism that theoretically operates around a natural inequality of intelligene, that the best way forward is to use simple narratives and memetics to essentially mind control their way to the society they want to live in.

[Anonymous No.18053900]

im confused about this thread, the blog literally links you to the "books" on it, so just read those. they're not even that long. reading "a gentle introduction" or "open minded letter to progressives" will be generally enough to get it

[Anonymous No.18053911]

>>18050208
>I mean fuck, I love you Curtis

Peak cringe. The guy is literally just a dumb libertarian.

[Anonymous No.18053965]

>>18050208
>I love you Curtis

[Anonymous No.18053993]

>>18051728
filtered

[Anonymous No.18054097]

>>18053900
>im confused about this thread
You're confused? How could you be confused? It's accfag shilling. There is no other purpose to the thread. Same as every other moldbug thread that gets spammed here.
You thought four threads every day dedicated to a pseud was organic kek

[Anonymous No.18054371]

>>18053851
Which ridiculous claims?
I actually listened to that podcast and the only maybe ridiculous thing he said is that Hitler was probably gay. He said it somewhat jokingly (because who cares, really), but the host chimped out and couldn't let it go.

[Anonymous No.18054388]

>>18054371
That one stood out yeah but more along that line, followed by him claiming he was an expert on Nazi Germany, which makes it ridiculous. And no it was Moldbug chimping out, not the host. The host correctly pushed him on those idiocies which only made Moldbug ree more. He was just being a salty jew.

[Anonymous No.18056256]

>>18053851
yeah he's not a nazi, does this surprise you?
He's actually ridiculously sympathetic to the nazis. E.g. he constantly tries to imply the allies were at fault for the war. Even though the Axis was constantly invading neutral countries and declaring war on everyone first. Or the allies bombing cities was terrible, even though the axis bombed cities first. Or how terrible the Americans treated PoWs even though the axis treated their PoWs far worse. He even believes the theoris Russia was planning to invade Germany and FDR knew about pearl harbor beforehand.

[Anonymous No.18057681]

>>18053851
he BTFO that dumbfuck borzoi, he´s okay in my book because of that

[Anonymous No.18057691]

>>18054388
>. And no it was Moldbug chimping out, not the host.

stop lying borzoi, i can see you´re still butthurted, how pathetic

[Anonymous No.18057718]

>>18053911
I feel pretty safe in my belief that moldbug is based and 99% correct about everything when the people who oppose him are like this. He literally had a full article talking about why libertarianism is stupid and you say this.

[Anonymous No.18057795]

>>18050208
>>18051473
This cost me 15 quid, I have both the open letter and the gentle introduction like this, they are both great.
>>18051728
Moldbug is very pompous and long winded in his writing, probably because he is on the spectrum. It’s by far his biggest flaw, I just tolerate it and push through to the good stuff.

[Anonymous No.18057847]

>>18056256
>>18057681
>>18057691
Did I trigger the jews?

[Anonymous No.18058246]

>>18050208
I have. Gray Mirror is superior.
>>18051728
His writing is excessively casual, not dense and abstruse.

[Anonymous No.18058877]

>>18057847
i´m a simple man, i see someone shitting on borzoi, and like his persona

[Anonymous No.18058991]

>>18051698
>It only takes like 6 weeks to get through the whole thing
How many pages do you read a day?

[Anonymous No.18059002]

>>18058877
Why

[Anonymous No.18059012]

>>18058877
What's wrong with borzoi?

[Anonymous No.18059016]

>>18057795
>15 quid
damn you got scammed

[Anonymous No.18059023]

>>18051728
>>18051737
>deceptively dense/abstruse.
Self-admittedly excessive, but aimed for being inaccessible/filtering at the time. He writes like a gentile woman that is technically plain, but structurally florid & prolix that is uniquely jewish-journalistic
He has nothing new to say that isn’t better articulated in his influences and primary sources, and is inextricably of and for the Silicon Valley/State Department subverter progeny milieu —

>>18053851
There are people for whom Nietzsche & Heidegger remain inaccessible at a foundational level, and it has less to do with race than individual type/sociosexual caste — his historical baggage does him no favours on that Yes, Curtis, I’m sure there’s a substantive difference between the ‘Polish’ speaking ones and ‘Germany’ speaking ones — for you

>>18056256
Yet he worms out and around the margins back to his default programming

[Anonymous No.18059028]

>>18057847
m8 this is why some on the right dislike wignats
Moldbug is probably one of the few genuinely groundbreaking intellectuals living today who also happens to be on your side, yet all you can see is 'joo'. Get over yourself already.

[Anonymous No.18059062]

>>18059028
I said
>Just listen to his appearance on Hyperpodcastism, he's obviously a well-read, intelligent guy, but the moment the subject turns to Nazi Germany he turns into a reeing sperg jew making ridiculous claims.
How is that wrong? He's not groundbreaking either, he treads ground others have done before but just refuses to name the jew.

[Anonymous No.18059094]

>>18059023
>and is inextricably of and for the Silicon Valley/State Department subverter progeny milieu —
He advocates the retirement of all present government employees and the deliberate restriction of technology so that people can return to developing useful and fulfilling skills. Neither Silicon Valley nor the State Department are in favor of these things.
>>18059062
Anti-Semitism is silly. Stop it.

[Anonymous No.18059104]

>>18059094
>Anti-Semitism is silly. Stop it.
No. Anti-semite is just a buzzword to stop people from noticing patterns. I don't hate jews, I hate jews who are disingenuous about the role of jews in our current predicament. Are you jewish?

[Anonymous No.18059110]

>>18059028
>few genuinely groundbreaking intellectuals
Stop it curtis. This is just embarrassing levels of shilling.

[Anonymous No.18059151]

>>18059002
>>18059012
imagine an edgy 4channer who thinks reading Crowley and Guy Debord makes him an intellectual, also:

>anglo

i think he should be more self-aware, what was the name of his book? Cultured Grugs oh wow he´s one of us SEEE!!'??!!!! the fact he´s a unironic hitler worshipper it´s more funny, what he is?...a 12 year old? i want to see what kind of books he reads on a daily basis

[Anonymous No.18059182]

>>18059151
>imagine an edgy 4channer
So someone like yourself? Sounds like you're just salty he actually published a book lmao

[Anonymous No.18059204]

>>18059182
i was thinking something more like a /pol/ tard than anything else, maybe i should´ve say that instead, my bad, i don´t care that he released a book but couldn´t he come up with something better? yep, i think he´s an oversocialized dumbnut from /pol/

[Anonymous No.18059225]

>>18059204
So you're just salty? Alright then.

[Anonymous No.18059256]

>>18059225
i´m not, but sometimes i´m surprise there are still are unironic hitler worshippers, a sign of illiteracy and ignorance in my view

[Anonymous No.18059270]

>>18059151
In all sincerity, why do you dislike anglos?

[Anonymous No.18059286]

>>18059256
Most people who dislike Hitler can't even make it through MK without being filtered lmao, talking about illiteracy. Also Borzoi is many things but not illiterate, not ignorant. Annoying, perhaps.
I don't worship Hitler but I also don't dislike him, I'm pretty neutral. Not understanding why people "worship Hitler" (by which you probably mean not see in a fully negative light) says more about you than about them.

[Anonymous No.18059295]

>>18059270
i don´t but it´s really stupid seeing anglos blaming the joo when they themselves are the ones who installed this disgusting notions about worshipping blacc pipo and globalism and utilirianism and the worship of data, yeah, most joos are just assimiliated anglos, they´re just part of the machine, doesn´t mean they´re responsible for the madness of today, dumbfucks like borzoi thinks there´s a conspiracy meanwhile you can see that anglo-american establishment are doing that in order to perpetuate sociocultural hegemony over the west

[Anonymous No.18059302]

>>18059270
>>18059295


pic fucking related

[Anonymous No.18059327]

>>18059295
Wow you've swallowed Moldbug's cum hard. You should really read up more in history of jews in Europe and how the influenced the Anglo (instead of the other way round) before spouting your ignorant historical takes. Also unironically read Culture of Critique.

[Anonymous No.18059394]

>>18059327
>Wow you've swallowed Moldbug's cum hard

dude, i´m not a monarchist, even if they weren´t jews, it would be still the same thing, same madness, so nice scapegoat you got there, imagine reading books just to valide your world-view

the anglos influenced jewish americans, not the other way around, makes sense, you stand too much if you try to complot against them, so why not just join them, it´s easier, they will accept you as their own and enjoy being part of the elite, not all jews are part of the highest echelon of society but the ideology itself is anglosaxon in nature, jewish people left to their own can be very ethnonationalistic, see the state of Israel for that example, they even helped the Rhodesians when the UK and the US were boycotting them, what´s you excuse for that fuckface?

[Anonymous No.18059442]

>>18059394
No, it;s specifically a jewish thing, you obviously don't know much about them. Please read more before trying to make ridiculous claims. The hing about jews is that they're both a people, a culture, and a religion. There's no other comparable group in the western world.
>the anglos influenced jewish americans, not the other way around, makes sense
No, you just lack historical awareness
>you stand too much if you try to complot against them, so why not just join them, it´s easier, they will accept you as their own and enjoy being part of the elite
Jesus christ how morally bankrupt are you? You've basically disproven the rest of your own post here lmao
>not all jews are part of the highest echelon of society
No but compared to any other group they are massively overrepresented which is the issue, it has to do with their culture (yes even secular)
>the ideology itself is anglosaxon in nature
No it's not, the parasitic aspect is very jewish, anglo-saxons used to be nothing like that until the jewish financed anglo-normans came into power.
> jewish people left to their own can be very ethnonationalistic, see the state of Israel for that example
Don't you see the contradiction here? For 2000 years they had no nation, thus making it impossible for them to be ethnonationalistic. Yet in order to survive they had to be parasites leeching off of other societies, sometimes doing good in the process but mostly furthering their own interests.
>hey even helped the Rhodesians when the UK and the US were boycotting them, what´s you excuse for that fuckface?
They were the fucking ones who instigated that, that's like a fireman starting a fire and then reaping the rewwards for putting it out.

You're a weasel.
Or a pilpulling jew.

[Anonymous No.18059515]

>>18059442
>No it's not, the parasitic aspect is very jewish, anglo-saxons used to be nothing like that until the jewish financed anglo-normans came into power.

how naive

[Anonymous No.18060285]

>>18050208
Nobody here reads.

[Anonymous No.18061517]

I read the Open Letter and one or two substack articles

He's smart but very self-indulgent with article length. Makes some interesting points but ultimately I think BAP is correct to criticise him as someone who fetishizes systems thinking over actually accomplishing anything

[Anonymous No.18061889]

>>18061517
>but ultimately I think BAP is correct to criticise him as someone who fetishizes systems thinking over actually accomplishing anything
This is your daily reminder that the things that BAP suggests will not succeed. Stay at home, enjoy your life, and try to survive.

[Anonymous No.18061902]

>>18050208
I don't like the title so I didn't read it.

[Anonymous No.18061948]

>>18061889
I intend to

If BAP wants to lead an army of brazilian nudist bodybuilders in an uprising against globohomo he's welcome to but I can't see him doing that either

[Anonymous No.18061953]

>>18061948
Well, that's clearly what he intends to encourage. It's very funny, but not very practical. He is also very racist, which I do not enjoy.

[Anonymous No.18062938]

>>18061953
I don't think mind his racism, I don't think he has any genuine malice towards people, he just views them like animals on a nature documentary, just observing

But it's not really the point of his ideas anyway, he's basically just repackaging Nietzsche and Schopenhauer in a fun way by his own admission

[Anonymous No.18062970]

>>18059515
Anglo-Saxons died out in the early previous millennium, retard. The were long gone by the time of Nietzsche.

[Anonymous No.18062979]

>>18061953
>He is also very racist, which I do not enjoy.
Why not?

[Anonymous No.18063476]

>>18061517
I like the length of his articles. In terms of systems thinking I can't help but think that there's an economic side to the Cathedral that he doesn't talk about too much. There's a reason for example that the economic Left has been pretty much crushed in the US.

In any case, 'too much talk too little action' is a shallow criticism. The Left has had generations of intellectuals before they achieved their modern success.

[Anonymous No.18063500]

>>18056256
>He even believes the theoris Russia was planning to invade Germany
Is this supposed to be somehow unbelievable?

[Anonymous No.18063524]

>>18051698
Ok, don't take this the wrong way, but where is this gif from?

[Anonymous No.18063534]

>>18063524
Never mind I found it

[Anonymous No.18063541]

>>18063500
Yes, because the bulk of their armed forces was located east of the Urals, far away from Europe. There was no sign of any preparation for an impending attack, though the fact that they constructed their factories to be mobile tells us that they were expecting to be invaded and lose a great deal of territory in the process.
>>18062979
Because racism is silly and pointless.
>>18062938
Look at his Twitter. His racism is barely concealed.

[Anonymous No.18063636]

>>18063541
Is it just some kind of coincidence that the Soviets in fact did end up colonizing Germany, a purely defensive colonization lol

[Anonymous No.18063694]

>>18063636
They didn't colonize Germany, but they did conquer it, as did the United States. Hitler gave them the opportunity they needed to do so. You might be interested in Ernst Nolte's take on this, which you can find in Three Faces of Fascism.

[Anonymous No.18063729]

>>18063694
They set up a government in Germany and used its population as labor, that's colonization.
You are unironically promoting the theory that the empire with the openly stated goal of 'international workers revolution' just accidentally happened to take over half of Europe, purely as a defensive manoeuvre. Are you being serious here

[Anonymous No.18063831]

>>18063729
You're being quite disingenuous. I suggest that you read that Ernst Nolte book I mentioned.

[Anonymous No.18063852]

>>18051737
(((Moldberg)))

[Anonymous No.18063871]

>>18063729
You're in the minority here. Russia has had this as it's strategy since time immemorial. There are no viable obstacles on it's Western border, so it will always tend to pursue conquest as a method of gaining strategic depth.

[Anonymous No.18063872]

>>18063831
That's not even close to an actual reply to anything I said, why are you even bothering to post. What is disingenuous about anything I said, are you just upset I'm criticizing the Soviet Union for their blatantly imperialistic behavior?

[Anonymous No.18063891]

>>18063871
How does this contradict anything I said? Are you implying the Russian empire wasn't imperialist either because its empire was based partly in geographical defensive considerations?

[Anonymous No.18064264]

>>18063891
I am not actually the guy you were talking to previously, but in any case, I was more concerned with the second part of your statement. You can label it however you want.

[Anonymous No.18064339]

>>18064264
I am still not seeing your point, are you or are you not claiming that the Russian empire and the Soviet union's imperialism were purely defensive? The 'second part of my statement' was claiming that this is an extremely naive belief, so credulous as to be verging on Russian propaganda.

[Anonymous No.18064571]

>>18063729
I mean it depends on what you mean by 'defensive' here. We're they strategically defensive? Yes, absolutely.

[Anonymous No.18064582]

>>18051737

He's intellectually dishonest. He had to construct this notion of power as ether in the air just to avoid the fact that the Cathedral is actually a synagogue.

[Anonymous No.18064621]

>>18064571
If it were purely defensive, it would have simply...defended its borders.

[Anonymous No.18065288]

>>18063541
>Because racism is silly and pointless.
No it's not, it's a very useful survival tool

[Anonymous No.18066777]

Bump

[Anonymous No.18067587]

>>18064582
This didn't make sense when BAP said it either

>The Cathedral is actually a Synagogue because Marx is jewish and all woke stuff comes from socialism

He argues this in one of his Nietzsche eps, it doesn't make sense to suggest communism is the root cause of all wokeism (why does it primarily exist in historically protestant countries then? Why doesn't it exist in China or Vietnam?), I think Moldbug is closer to the truth

[Anonymous No.18067605]

Does he write that way just to filter people he doesn't want reading his work

[Anonymous No.18067632]

>>18067587
>The Cathedral is actually a Synagogue because Marx is jewish and all woke stuff comes from socialism
But that wasn't the point, it's the fact that most of the most nefarious actors that uphold the cathedral are jewish, and therefore it would make more sense to call it the synagogue.

[Anonymous No.18067640]

>>18067587
It's not because of some weird esoteric 19th century stuff jews = communist stuff. The current ruling class is viscerally jewish and zionist. Moldbug knows it too but wants to keep being published and have his tablescraps.

[Anonymous No.18067645]

>>18067632
That was his point, it may not be yours

He says something along the lines of
>Moldbug calls it Cathedral, but is not Cathedral, Marx is jew. He is not the Calvin of anything but he is the Marx of something

[Anonymous No.18067655]

>>18067645
That's BAP's point perhaps, but not the point of >>18064582

[Anonymous No.18067696]

>>18067655
Yeah BAPs not saying
>the Cathedral is upheld by jews

Hes saying
>the whole woke thing stems from Marx's philosophy, which itself was an attempt to justify Jews (read: himself) and their boorish habits as Europeans saw them by making an argument that everyone actually does those things, not just jews. This was basically born out of a desire to be accepted by European society instead of being an outsider

It's an interesting ep (Traditionalist Vs Futurist Right, I think) but I've never found this argument very convincing

[Anonymous No.18067707]

More like
Unqualified

[Anonymous No.18067905]

>>18067632

Thank you.

Before he abandoned it, Yarvin's American Mind series was an attempt to explain why since the 1940's politics, the media, and academia all seem to be in one accord, despite the fact they don't have briefing/debriefing meetings on social marxism.

One could examine certain people within all of those organizations who hold a disporportionate amount of power and examine things those people have in common or......

one could come up with the fanciful theory that power is actually the force in Star Wars, and that it's midichlorian count, not logic...that explains their flow.

Yarvin chose the latter explanation.

Anyone whose read anything he's written can see this is dishonest.

[Anonymous No.18068528]

His "Open Letter to Open-Minded Progressives" piece was amazing. The idea of progressivism as its own religion is fascinating.

https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2008/04/open-letter-to-open-minded-progressives/

[Anonymous No.18068563]

>>18067696
Marx was never jewish, his father was but converted. This is a retarded nazi-brained take. Marx specifically criticized european jews and religion in general.

Do rightoids just call him a jew because they can't actually comprehend and properly criticize his work?

[Anonymous No.18068573]

>>18068563
He is ethnically, which is the relevant point to the sort of people who would mention it in the first place.

[Anonymous No.18068586]

Reminder Moldbug is a gatekeeper who praised Reagan

[Anonymous No.18068592]

>>18051818
how is it not arguing in bad faith when comparing the mid-level overlord class of samurai who could kill you without reason to protected classes such as gays or minorities who have actually been killed for being themselves? that is the height of intellectual dishonesty and for some reason conservitards fall for this half-baked reasoning like flies to honey.

[Anonymous No.18068596]

>>18063541
>Because racism is silly and pointless
I used to think this until I moved to Chiraq

[Anonymous No.18068605]

>>18059028
>we need to return to feudalism. look! rich libruls are like kings (pls ignore rich conservatives tho...uwu)
yes, absolutely groundbreaking.

[Anonymous No.18068610]

>>18068528
>nerd yells and strawman

king of pseuds he is.

[Anonymous No.18068613]

>>18059028
>Moldbug is probably one of the few genuinely groundbreaking intellectuals living today who also happens to be on your side
Except he’s not. He’s literally a neoliberal.

[Anonymous No.18068625]

>>18068613
well no he isn't. His opinions on race and crime alone make him 'basically Hitler' in the eyes of neoliberals

[Anonymous No.18068641]

>>18068625
Yes he’s just a bit edgy. But he still supports capitalism, corporate rule and multiculturalism. Also >>18068586
He openly said he likes Reagan and Thatcher.

[Anonymous No.18068663]

>>18068641
It's not like an insignificant side point though, he talked a LOT about how America was ruined by black crime. His solution would resemble what Mussolini did to the mafia

[Anonymous No.18068687]

>>18068610
>uses ad hom attack on author while pointing out his use of strawman attacks


king of fallacious arguments you are.

[Anonymous No.18068703]

>>18068641
He also supports the monarchy and divine right of kings. What a hodgepodge of incompatible beliefs.

[Anonymous No.18068721]

>>18068605
Where are these conservatives? The entire post-war economic order is fundamentally liberal. Just because some of the liberals are willing to play the heel and proudly take credit for bombing 3rd world nations, or shamelessly grift to the proles who believe in Jesus Christ, doesn't mean they are conservatives. I suppose if your scope is limited to the whig-cage of the politcal compass, then yes they are conservatives.

[Anonymous No.18068735]

>>18067640
what! who is publishing him?

[Anonymous No.18068785]

Why does this guy make /lit/ seethe so hard.
Is it because this board is still mind zapped into thinking theres only three flavors of ice cream? Chocolate, Vanilla, and Strawberry?
That theres only three flavor of dissident? Lolbert, Wignat, and pozzed marxist?

[Anonymous No.18068806]

>>18050208
anyone figured out what urbit does yet?

[Anonymous No.18068949]

>Hi, I'm Mencius Moldbug. Yes my blog is harder to read than most actual books. No, I won't ever sell a paper copy. You'll just have to print every post one by one and put them in a binder; but I digress...
>Absolute Monarchy is a totally sustainable system, not just a transitionary phase between Feudalism and modern states. It's a bit like being ruled by a corporation, and no that didn't cause a dystopian nightmare in the Belgian Congo or India. You've just read too much Liberal propaganda; but I digress...
>Yes I have read Hans-Hermann Hoppe, and I do know the difference between Feudal, Absolute and Constitutional Monarchy. No, I won't always use the terms correctly, and no it's not just to be edgy. There are high-IQ reasons for it beyond your comprehension; but I digress...
>Democracy is the worst thing that ever happened. It was all explained eloquently by Sir Diggory Hewitt-Lane Montpellier Fortesque Pericles Cholnondely-Warner IX fifth Baron of Yeoldcountry in 1642, a freer time than ours - and no slavery is not incompatible with freedom; but I digress...
>Many of my fans think my ideas are compatible with Theocracy and Eugenics. No I won't try to dissuade them from this, and no it definitely wouldn't cause a civil war between Neoreactionaries if they actually took political power; but I digress...
>I'm a Carlylist the same way other people are Marxists. Yes, this does mean I will be an insufferable fanboy for my senpai. You'll just have to deal with it; but I digress...
>Most problems can be solved using capitalism. Thatcher and Reagan were based. No, I'm not just an edgy Neoliberal! I'm a totally radical Monarchist Reactionary; but I digress...
>Sovereignty can only ever be a monopoly. No, it doesn't matter that a network of subordinate rulers and institutions are required to maintain it. We just need a hyper-autistic system to formalize them all; but I digress...
>You need to take this thing called the clearpill. It's like the pills in the Matrix, but instead of doing anything you write 100,000 word blog posts. No, it's not a waste of time. It's antipraxis, as my Sith apprentice Nick Land explained on his Deleuzean horror blog; but I digress...
>My father's rabbi thinks I took the default Jewish survival strategy since the Chaldean invasion, renamed it "exit", and sold it to gentiles as a new political science. He just doesn't understand the complexity of my civic ontology; but I digress...
>I own a motorcycle jacket, because I ride a motorcycle. No, I didn't ride it to this photoshoot, that would scuff my shoes. I just threw on the first jacket I saw in a way that was completely unpretentious and non-gay; but I digress...

[Anonymous No.18069014]

>>18067587
>Why doesn't it exist in China or Vietnam?
no Jews

[Anonymous No.18069040]

Hey for the retardcons, or stormtards, how come liberal jews are the same as practically any other liberals and also hold to their far lower rates with intermarriage while also supporting open borders for israel. Just curious? Because apparently that one retarded author doesn't have an answer.

[Anonymous No.18069069]

>>18069040
>while also supporting open borders for israel.
do they? The ADL don't

[Anonymous No.18069150]

>>18069069
A lot of liberal Jews wear anti-Zionism as a badge of moral superiority. They are basically in favor of anything that would destroy the ethno-cultural identity of Israel (just as they are in favor of for other nations).

[Anonymous No.18069304]

>>18068806
Yup, been using it since 2019

It's great

[Anonymous No.18069320]

>>18069304
What can you actually do with it at this stage? Last I checked it was just people playing around with a chat protocol.

[Anonymous No.18069965]

>>18059256
>a sign of illiteracy and ignorance in my view
Lol

[Anonymous No.18069969]

>>18059394
>the anglos influenced jewish americans, not the other way around,
LMAO

[Anonymous No.18069989]

>>18063729
Dont let these bolshevik apologists gaslight you >>18063871

[Anonymous No.18069997]

>>18067587
>why does it primarily exist in historically protestant countries then?
Are you serious?
Protestantism is the most judaized branch of christianity

[Anonymous No.18070864]

>>18068586
Based

[Anonymous No.18070901]

>>18050208
>UNQUALIFIED RESERVATIONS is a strange blog: its goal is to cure your brain. We’ve all seen The Matrix. We know about red pills. Many claim to sell them. You can go, for example, to any bookstore, and ask the guy behind the counter for some Noam Chomsky. What you’ll get is blue pills soaked in Red #3.
>Since we provide the genuine article, UR is pretty much the anti-Chomsky. (As a broad generalization, UR’s stance in any controversy will be the opposite of Chomsky’s.) Take one of our red pills—heck, split one in half—and you’ll be in a completely different world.
Cringe

[Anonymous No.18070928]

>>18068806
I don't think Yarvin has been involved with it for years now, right?

[Anonymous No.18070950]

>>18067905
>>18068586
>>18068592
>>18068605
>>18068610
>>18068613
>>18068641
>>18068663
>>18068703
>>18068949
>>18069997
>>18070901
I don't know how it's possible to misunderstand Moldbug to this degree, given that he has very clearly spelled out his opinions on these issues repeatedly on his Substack and elsewhere. Are you just too impatient to actually read and understand what he has to say?

[Anonymous No.18070994]

>>18070950
>matrix and redpill reference
>serious author
Pick one

[Anonymous No.18071032]

>>18070994
He knows his audience, and he has done a spectacular job of playing to it. He would not have been able to build up the kind of following and influence he has if he had chosen to follow the standards of academic or journalistic writing. He knows what he is doing.

[Anonymous No.18071082]

>>18050208
It took me like two weeks to read. I read the shorter thinks he linked and just skimmed through the books he referenced. Though to be honest, I didn't retain much or find it that interesting.

If you have trouble reading him, you're probably just a newfag, because he writes like many bloggers did in that era. e.g. Yudkowsky. That or you're just dumb.

[Anonymous No.18071095]

>>18071032
Correct, he is a merchant through and through

[Anonymous No.18071162]

>>18070950
>I don't know how it's possible to misunderstand Moldbug to this degree,
Ahh yes the classic ideologue cope of “you just didn’t understand him”. Nah I’ve read plenty and he’s just not a good author and I disagree with his political views. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.18071204]

>>18057718
The guy literally wants Jeff Bezos to become the CEO-Monarch of the United States, it's literally impossible to be more libertarian than wanting a capitalist to gain the entire U.S as his private property.

[Anonymous No.18071253]

>>18071095
No.
>>18071162
It's not a cope. Everything that (You) and the other (You)s in this thread have posted in this thread has shown that you don't understand his work.
>>18071204
That's exactly what he does not want. Read his work before commenting on it.

[Anonymous No.18071260]

>>18071204
Seriously I don’t know why people think he’s “based”. The only reason he likes monarchy is the same reason Hoppe likes it, it’s better at protecting property. Moldbug is just a materialist edgy lolbert.

[Anonymous No.18071323]

>>18071253
You just showed how he is though
>He knows his audience, and he has done a spectacular job of playing to it. He would not have been able to build up the kind of following and influence he has if he had chosen to follow the standards of academic or journalistic writing. He knows what he is doing.
How is that not excellent selling and promoting of (intellectual) wares? Moldbug is the ultimate merchant.

[Anonymous No.18071336]

>>18071260
He also endorsed Joe Biden for president, which goes to show that all his esoteric knowledge and flamboyancy was just a cover for status quo politics.

[Anonymous No.18071590]

>>18070950
>misunderstand
All I said was that he talked endlessly about black crime and permissive policing destroying American cities, which makes him incompatible with neoliberalism. This is not even an interpretation, this is simply an unambiguous fact

[Anonymous No.18071600]

>>18071336
Well that was ironic, he endorsed Obama back in 07 as well. If you don't believe in democracy and think there is no way to use democratic means to achieve your goals then it doesn't really matter does it

[Anonymous No.18072589]

>>18068949
Curtis doesn't believe in exit. also you seem to be conflating his older views with his newer ones because you can't seem to distinguish between the two.

[Anonymous No.18073406]

>>18071336
and? He endorsed Biden because Trump getting a second term would only energize the cathedral further. They hold all the chips, and but can play the underdog, hero role because the Republicans sometimes hold the formal titles of power. The most devastating move the Republicans could make would to dissolve completely and let the US become a one party state. Cut the breaks and let the train careen out of control.

[Anonymous No.18073413]

>>18072589
It is unironically helpful to sepearate Mencius Moldbug from Curtis Yarvin.

[Anonymous No.18073439]

>>18067632
>most nefarious actors that uphold the cathedral are jewish
List their names

[Anonymous No.18073448]

>>18073406
Finally, someone who has actually read Yarvin appears.

[Anonymous No.18073451]

>>18071260
He likes monarchy because only a monarch could fix the problems America has. Dictatorship of the proletariat would do absolutely nothing to fix our crippling addiction to buying Chinese garbage with freshly printed money. Any democracy requires a highly engaged, virtuous population, the two traits the American people have the least of.

[Anonymous No.18073525]

More like Unqualified Observations amiritefellas?

[Anonymous No.18073534]

To all the stormfriends in this threads,

You could gas every single jew in America, you could gas every single in Israel, you could gas every single jew on earth, and the West would still be an apathetic deindustrialising overly cosmopolitan wasteland. The body politic isnt an otherwise healthy body with a single tumor called 'jews'. The cancer is metastatic, and even if you excised the elders of Zion the rest of the body is still infected.

[Anonymous No.18073571]

>>18073534
it's a good start

[Anonymous No.18073629]

>>18073534
I find a good way to explain this to stormfags is by telling them that Rothschilds is not some evil exception to the rule, but rather is the rule itself of Anglo banking, and that if you are going to condemn the Jewish banking dynasties you have to do the same for Anglos generally. This makes it more obvious to them I think why it's stupid to blame all Jews since evidently it is stupid to blame all Anglos for the Bank of England. Even if you want to get conspiratorial and claim Jews orchestrated the banks from the beginning, that still does not implicate all Jews.

Of course casual antisemitism, and notions of possible nepotism and ethnocentrism, are not contradicted by this, but I don't think these are really all that dangerous, it's not that different than calling Irish or Italians clannish, Jews just maybe do more of it and are a bit better at it(if you accept the premise of course). But it helps to reframe things in a way where we are looking at particular little groups and institutions, who might well have ethnic patterns, but who do not include all members of any ethnicity, and who are themselves not comprised purely of any one ethnicity.

[Anonymous No.18073676]

>>18073406

Not exactly. His substack apologia in regard to the Biden endorsement is incongruous with what he said in preelection interviews.

In the interviews he claimed the BLM/Antifa participants were spurred to action due to Trump derangement, and with Trump gone, the left would lose this energy and find themselves in an indefensible position.
Per Yarvin:
>basically this energy just ossifies itself and disappears.

He got his wish, and the capital of the United States is now a militarized zone and Minneapolis is burning again.

There is no evidence to suggest his reasoning was correct.

[Anonymous No.18073705]

>>18073676
We won't actually know if he's right until the riots pop off. Then we will see two questions answered, 1)how much astroturfing of unrest will occur, and 2)how the police, national guard, and DAs will respond now that Dems are in.

[Anonymous No.18073715]

>>18073571
its a fucking terrible start. how would Holocaust II (no more wooden doors motherfuckers), even begin? So you somehow seize military/police control, institutions which have immense oversight by the civil service i.e. the deepstate i.e. the ZOG, and your first move is to go around putting any steins or bergs into cattle cars and MRAPs?

If you can convince the Western populace to go along with a genocide the synagogue/cathedral has obviously already been dismantled. You'd be massacring the Jews out of spite.

BUT if the Cathedral/synagogue is still intact, doing a Kristallnacht would ruin any good faith your white nationalist movement would have left, and any institutions sympathetic to you would instantly turn. The actual NSDAP could get away with street violence because the immediate post-war chaos made groups like the Freikorps necessary, and the German judiciary was extremely sympathetic to their cause. Hitler served 9 months after trying to overthrow the government. The capitol vandals of 2021 are now the subject of an enormous nationwide manhunt. I personally have seen billboards from the Feds telling you to snitch if you know if anyone was there, and I live on the great lakes.

[Anonymous No.18073738]

>>18073439
Gold-, -stein, -berg, Green-, Black
You can fill in the blanks

[Anonymous No.18073789]

>>18057795

is this from a site or what

[Anonymous No.18073842]

>>18073705

>until the riots pop off.

Leftist riots occurring in a Biden term refute Yarvin's claim. There is not action that the administration or any authority can take to make him correct post facto.

And remember, he wasn't refering to "the cathedral's" power dissipating upon Biden's election, he was specifically refering to BLM/Antifa types who normally weren't political actors. He reasoned that with Biden in office, they would wander around aimlessly and then go home. Ironically that is what such actors on the right did when they were in the capitol.

Turns out, the leftist actors were nothing more than a nominal appendage of the democratic structure, and they will serve to strengthen that structure more with leftists in power than they would with Trump in office.

It seems odd that Bidenites apparently understand Burnham's notion of formal truth better than an avowed student of The Machiavellians.

One would think that

[Anonymous No.18073867]

>>18073842
>Leftist riots occurring in a Biden term refute Yarvin's claim
I don't think so though it depends what exactly we mean by riots. If protests emerge but the state squashes them brutally and right away I'd say this would count as an accurate prediction on his part, at least to some degree. Likewise for whether we see evidence of organization and funding, and how the press behaves.

[Anonymous No.18073881]

>>18073413
i don't know. Early Moldbug is still different in some ways from late Moldbug.

[Anonymous No.18073919]

>>18073789
Just search pdf printing service and you’ll find one from your country

[Anonymous No.18074033]

>>18073676
>He got his wish, and the capital of the United States is now a militarized zone and Minneapolis is burning again.
And these are indefensible positions. Yarvin's hope for the Biden era is that, as things deteriorate the Cathedral will pursue one of two paths
>side with the formal powers in trying to restore law and order, and a mid-2000s sense of normalcy
which would demoralize leftist ground troops, further smashing their faith in democracy and the Regime as a whole
or
>join the mob that it drummed up in attacking the formal powers, and make it doctrine that democracy is truly dead
which would inject chaos into the system, as the Cathedral steals its family's microwave so it can buy more heroin.

[Anonymous No.18074102]

i read one of his post on substack where he was arguing about building a big spaceship that can wipe every military unit from the major powers in order to restore war capabilities to 18th century levels, what the fuck

[Anonymous No.18074748]

>>18073919
based ty

[Anonymous No.18074754]

>>18074033
>And these are indefensible positions. Yarvin's hope for the Biden era is that, as things deteriorate the Cathedral will pursue one of two paths
>>side with the formal powers in trying to restore law and order, and a mid-2000s sense of normalcy
>which would demoralize leftist ground troops, further smashing their faith in democracy and the Regime as a whole
>or
>>join the mob that it drummed up in attacking the formal powers, and make it doctrine that democracy is truly dead
>which would inject chaos into the system, as the Cathedral steals its family's microwave so it can buy more heroin.


It seems more probable to me that Biden helps the cathedral maintain a quantum position of supporting the mob to serve a wokist Sturmabteilung function, only to expand and exercise even greater formal powers than ever before to deal with the very chaos they sanctioned.

[Anonymous No.18075459]

>>18074102
that sounds very based, but he should wait until all the petroleum reserves are depleted, then we can send the world back to the 8th century and keep it there.

[Anonymous No.18075818]

>>18073534
>>18073629
>stormfriends
Always glowed, never a natural coinage; your decrepit age is showing

>>18073842
Riots per Ferguson would’ve only intensified had Hillary won; it’s integral to the script

>>18074102
Almost as if he’s aware of breakaway societies with that capability in the darkest recesses of the black budget special projects world — if it reversed nuclear proliferation to US-Russia, they’d be mostly justified

[Anonymous No.18075899]

>>18069320
The chat is still the main thing but it's developed into a very good decentralised social media platform, you can create groups, blogs etc so there's a good culture building up

My SD card got fried a few weeks back so there may be more updates since, but basically it's still in the early toy stages, but is getting to the point that I prefer it to here or twitter because of all the niche groups

[Anonymous No.18076404]

>>18059023
take your pills

[Anonymous No.18076527]

>>18074754
>It seems more probable to me that Biden helps the cathedral maintain a quantum position of supporting the mob to serve a wokist Sturmabteilung function, only to expand and exercise even greater formal powers than ever before to deal with the very chaos they sanctioned.
And I say let them. Let them go full Maoist. Let them take off the mask so everyone can see their Palpatine face. What powers do they not currently have? What institutions aren't part of the fold?

[Anonymous No.18076556]

>>18068592
>sumurai were granted various legal privileges by birth and were frequently above the law
>minorities are granted various legal privileges by birth and are frequently above the law
the comparison isn't particularly hard to grasp

[Anonymous No.18076710]

>>18075899
Kind of like the early internet then. Less functionality, but more user control. Sounds good.
How do you actually get an urbit? Don't you have to know someone who owns a star or something?

[Anonymous No.18078009]

bump